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Hi MJT,
MJT wrote:
> Hello Thanos5150,
>
> There is no doubt in my mind that the location of G1 (Khufu?)
> was determined by the Grotto (which became a part of the Well
> Shaft).
A grotto that was part of an already existing structure maybe....?
> However, this does not mean that therefore G1 (Khufu?) was the
> first pyramid to be built on the Giza Plateau.
> My take on G2 (Khafre?) is pure speculation; so, too, is my
> take on G3 (Menkaure?).
> I’m not too struck with G2 and sibling ego, but I do like G3
> and Orion.
Yes, that is interesting.
> I don’t know whether the stonework can tell us the sequence of
> the building of these three pyramids, but this is down to my
> not being very aware of the subject-matter.
The casing stones seem to offer a clue for at least the exterior.
> I do wonder if these pyramids were constructed in the same
> order as they were planned.
You'd think at the very least if they were a master plan, which seems reasonable, you'd plan quarries and supply lines, prep the foundations of all the structures, then start construction.
> I seriously doubt that these three pyramids were created
> completely independent of each other.
I agree.
> I think it possible that as work on pyramid A neared completion
> work started on pyramid B, and as B neared completion work
> started on pyramid C.
This is possible.
> Re this overlapping, I recommend a reading of the late
> Christine El Mahdy’s ‘The Pyramid Builder: Cheops , The Man
> Behind The Great Pyramid’ 2003.
> Christine hypothesised a pyramid building industry – an idea I
> find rather appealing.
Interesting. I will try and check it out.
> A general problem (a hiccup, as I see it) with all these things
> is Abu Roash (Djedfre?).
> If it were left to me, then I would have Abu Roash post-dating
> G1, G2 and G3.
That's a bit of a monkey wrench as carbon dating places Abu Roash on average considerably older than Giza and there is an early Dynastic presence there that would support this. I find it very compelling the idea Djedefre did not build at Giza because it was already full so he went to Abu Roash and tried to restore it. I went to Abu Roash nearly 15yrs ago when no tourists were allowed and little archaeological work had been done. I think there is not a chance in hell it or Zawyet el'Aryan were ever pyramids and both predate the 4th Dynasty.
> I doubt all this will be of much help to you (mainly because of
> my lack of knowledge and understanding of the constructions’
> stonework), but working it out has been an interesting exercise
> for me.
> I intend to re-read and hopefully get to understand at least
> some of your views on the stonework.
I appreciate your opinions nonetheless.
Thanks
MJT wrote:
> Hello Thanos5150,
>
> There is no doubt in my mind that the location of G1 (Khufu?)
> was determined by the Grotto (which became a part of the Well
> Shaft).
A grotto that was part of an already existing structure maybe....?
> However, this does not mean that therefore G1 (Khufu?) was the
> first pyramid to be built on the Giza Plateau.
> My take on G2 (Khafre?) is pure speculation; so, too, is my
> take on G3 (Menkaure?).
> I’m not too struck with G2 and sibling ego, but I do like G3
> and Orion.
Yes, that is interesting.
> I don’t know whether the stonework can tell us the sequence of
> the building of these three pyramids, but this is down to my
> not being very aware of the subject-matter.
The casing stones seem to offer a clue for at least the exterior.
> I do wonder if these pyramids were constructed in the same
> order as they were planned.
You'd think at the very least if they were a master plan, which seems reasonable, you'd plan quarries and supply lines, prep the foundations of all the structures, then start construction.
> I seriously doubt that these three pyramids were created
> completely independent of each other.
I agree.
> I think it possible that as work on pyramid A neared completion
> work started on pyramid B, and as B neared completion work
> started on pyramid C.
This is possible.
> Re this overlapping, I recommend a reading of the late
> Christine El Mahdy’s ‘The Pyramid Builder: Cheops , The Man
> Behind The Great Pyramid’ 2003.
> Christine hypothesised a pyramid building industry – an idea I
> find rather appealing.
Interesting. I will try and check it out.
> A general problem (a hiccup, as I see it) with all these things
> is Abu Roash (Djedfre?).
> If it were left to me, then I would have Abu Roash post-dating
> G1, G2 and G3.
That's a bit of a monkey wrench as carbon dating places Abu Roash on average considerably older than Giza and there is an early Dynastic presence there that would support this. I find it very compelling the idea Djedefre did not build at Giza because it was already full so he went to Abu Roash and tried to restore it. I went to Abu Roash nearly 15yrs ago when no tourists were allowed and little archaeological work had been done. I think there is not a chance in hell it or Zawyet el'Aryan were ever pyramids and both predate the 4th Dynasty.
> I doubt all this will be of much help to you (mainly because of
> my lack of knowledge and understanding of the constructions’
> stonework), but working it out has been an interesting exercise
> for me.
> I intend to re-read and hopefully get to understand at least
> some of your views on the stonework.
I appreciate your opinions nonetheless.
Thanks
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