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molder Wrote:
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> Hello Dhani
>
> Odoric travelled to Java around
> 1316-1318 and from what little I have read he
> gives a interesting description. "The King of this
> island hath a palace which is truly marvellous.
> For it is very great, and hath very great
> staircases, broad and lofty, and the steps thereof
> are of gold and silver alternately. Likewise the
> pavement of the palace hath one tile of gold and
> the other of silver, and the wall of the same is
> on the inside plated all over with plate of gold,
> on which are sculptured knights all of gold, which
> have great golden circles round their heads, such
> as we give in these parts to the figures of
> saints. And these circles are all beset with
> precious stones. Moreover, the ceiling is all of
> pure gold, and to speak briefly, this palace is
> richer and finer than any existing at this day in
> the world."
>
> "Java by name which hath a compass of a good three
> thousand miles."
>
> Odoric writes of knights with great circles
> painted around their heads. Do you know anything
> along these lines?
>
> Odoric goes on to describe the sea to the south as
> "the Dead Sea, and the water whereof runneth ever
> towards the south, and if any one falleth into
> that water he is never found more."
>
> Interesting theory thanks.

Hi molder,

Very interesting information, thank you! I appreciate your comment. Do you have any references or websites that you can share with me?

The years 1316-1318 can be traced back to the Majapahit Empire, the greatest, powerful and gloriest empire ever in the archipelago. It was a vast archipelagic empire based on the island of Java from 1293 to around 1500. Majapahit reached its peak of glory during the era of Hayam Wuruk, whose reign from 1350 to 1389 was marked by conquest which extended through Southeast Asia. His achievement is also credited to his prime minister, Gajah Mada. Majapahit was an empire of 98 tributaries, stretching from Sumatra to New Guinea; consisting of present-day Indonesia, Singapore, Malaysia, Brunei, southern Thailand, Sulu Archipelago, Philippines, and East Timor.

Odoric also reported: "Near to this country is another which is called PANTEN, but others call it THALAMASYN, the king whereof hath many islands under him. Here be found trees that produce flour, and some that produce honey, others that produce wine, and others a poison the most deadly that existeth in the world. For there is no antidote to it known except one; and that is that if anyone hath imbibed that poison he shall take of stercus humanum and dilute it with water, and of this potion shall he drink, and so shall he be absolutely quit of the poison. [And the men of this country being nearly all rovers, when they go to battle they carry every man a cane in the hand about a fathom in length, and put into one end of it an iron bodkin poisoned with this poison; and when they blow into the cane, the bodkin flieth and striketh whom they list, and those who are thus stricken incontinently die.]" This could be the Kalimantan Island. Thalamasin could be Banjarmasin and mention of the Sumpit or blow-pipe of the aborigines.

You information is the first I ever heard, indeed. I have never read it in any historical books. I really need your reference of the Odoric travel to Java.

Thank you.

Dhani



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