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Thanos5150 wrote:

> > LIkewise, it's not clear when the Khufu Stela was engraved.
> > It's only clear that the stone is gneiss and could have
> > originated from that area, and was likely not standing in the
> > position Engelbach found it for the past 4500 years.
>
> I agree with this, but I see no reason it couldn't be from the
> 4th Dynasty either. At any point in time someone could have
> come across the stele in the rubble and thought it would be
> cool to prop it up there. Assuming it was not made by
> antiquarian forgers, a question to ask if not from the 4th
> Dynasty then why would it be there at all? What would possess
> someone say in the MK to engrave Khufu's name on it or even
> worse bring it already carved to that location?

As you said, the Khufu Stele "could" be form the 4th Dynasty...but we do not know that for sure. It "could" just as easily be a fragment from a more ancient block. It could have been put there by a few kids as a prop for their role playing game. Can we really say beyond a reasonable doubt?

A 4th Dynasty provenance for that Stele must consider its composition and whether the 4th Dynasty had the tools and methods to work such a stone. The extremely shallow engraving suggests that whoever did the engraving did not have the proper tools to make a deeper cut and, instead, perhaps used a piece of flint or basalt shard lying around to brute force the surface sketch. Also, is that stone a fragment from a larger finished block? The engravings appear to be on a flat planar surface. If so, what technology was required to make such a cut block.

Regarding why anyone in the Middle Kingdom (or any other period) would engrave a reference to "Khufu", perhaps for the same reason anyone would write a book about Winston Churchill, Ghengis Khan, or Santa Claus today? Why would parents today buy a swing set designed with a castle theme? It's fair to assume that later periods knew of "Khufu", had their own history and belief system surrounding Khufu, and reproduced histories, games, stories about Khufu for their children, etc. There is certainly no reason at all to believe that every single cartouche that references Khufu necessarily has a provenance back to the time when a man named Khufu was alive and well. As I said elsewhere in this discussion, a father might have made that as part of his storytelling to his children. Who can say for sure without definitive evidence?


> > From what I've gleaned from posts in this discussion, there is
> > not enough data to reliably assign provenance to the quarry,
> > the Khafre statue, or the Khufu Stela.
>
> Its a particular kind of gneiss though. The answer to this
> question is geologically could it have come from
> somewhere else.

I actually was corrected by Dr. Trog; we apparently do not know for sure whether the Stele is gneiss. It looks more like basalt but I've not actually read anything that indicates this has been determined. sfbey claims that Shaw says it's basalt, but I cannot access the article.


> > If anything, the
> > scarcity of artifacts in the quarry dating it at least across a
> > several millennia of the dynastic period, and the out of
> > character engraving on the Khafre gneiss, and the unlikely
> > positioning of the Khufu Stela, all cast a strong doubt on
> > their alleged provenance.
>
> But there are artifacts representing this whole time period,
> regardless of how scant, implying it was used throughout this
> time. Khufu's name is found as far afield as Byblos among
> others so finding it at an AE gneiss quarry shouldn't be all
> that mysterious. The positioning of the stele doesn't mean it
> wasn't from there just that it is unlikely that was its
> original position. The Khafre engraving isn't out of character
> as on many statues from this period and later you find this
> kind of work. The quality of working in raised relief doesn't
> seem to translate well with engravings on some kinds of stone.

Since the Khafre statue has plenty of precision reliefs, there's no reason to believe that the commemorative glpyhs could not have been put into relief as well. An objective, non-biased observer will notice immediately that those glyphs are non-sequitur with the rest of the workmanship on that statue. I'd love to know what experts have scrutinized those glyphs as being authentic to the proposed provenance.

My take on this is that many of the OK artifacts may have been far more ancient than their currently attributed provenance, and that an adaption society saw those artifacts and made them their own. Pyramids, Spinx, buildings, the relatively small number of statues (compared to later periods). The early dynastics saw these things and repurposed them. As farfetched as this is to some, the alternative -- that these were indeed made during the 4th Dynasty -- is even more farfetched in that there is zero evidence that the tools and methods required to construct that stuff existed at that time. It's not logical to contend the reason we don't see any evidence of the proper tools and methods is that they were all lost. The reason it's illogical is that every other significant aspect of dynastic life has been documented in the glyphs, with the conspicuous exception of tools and building methods to accomplish what has arguable become the things that the AEs are best known for today. That is an enormous conflict that must be reconciled in a rational way. I believe the proposition of an adaption society that inherited the products of a more ancient society reconciles that conflict.


> Though my head spins a little bit, I understand the argument
> you are making, but it seems unbelievable to say the least to
> think that for at least 2,000yrs years one pharaoh after
> another just so happened to adopt all the stuff and likenesses
> of an individual king from a lost civilization from thousands
> of years before their time. So, you have Khafre who has to find
> his own stuff, then Menkaure finds another kings stuff
> including as luck would have it several statues of what are
> obviously the same individual. On and on and on and even by the
> time of Ramses II there is still enough left over that he can
> even find 1,000 ton virgin statues to put his name on. And not
> only that, but according to you all the buildings as well.
> Every amazing stone vase or bowl or statue or building or laser
> like engraving. For thousands of years these stumbling bumbling
> ignorant squatters just keep on squatting completely oblivious
> to the how of the world of artificial stone they enveloped
> themselves in.

I now see why it seemed to be head spinning. I never said I believed that everything we see from AE came from an earlier pre-dynastic civilization. I'm only focusing on the initial monuments during a time when statues of humans were relatively rare, and most of the stone engineering focused on architecture, not art. Meanwhile, I think it's quite possible that the Middle and New Kingdoms achieved the necessary technological advances to do their own stonework as they became influenced by the Romans, Hyksos, Assyrians, etc. In other words, I'm far more skeptical about much of the traditional tenets regarding the Old Kingdom, including Giza, the first, best pyramids, perhaps Edfu & Philae, the Fayum reservoir's regulation of the Nile (not to mention other locations like Baalbek). These are the artifacts which are incompatible with the tools and methods and needs known to exist at the time to which these artifacts have been attributed. That conflict must be reconciled somehow. In these discussions I share my own thoughts about one way to reconcile that conflict.

Some users here seem to think I WANT there to be an earlier civilization; that for some reason I have something against the Dynastics and refuse to believe they could do anything at all. But this is not at all the context of my posts. All I WANT is a credible answer to account for what we see over there, so that we have an accurate understanding of the that part of our beginnings. I have nothing against the Dynastics. I simply want to know about what we see there today, and the traditional thinking is far too problematic to be a credible solution. There must be some other explanation. I realize that some of what I propose seems unlikely, but what's being proposed by traditionalists seems even LESS likely, in my view. What I propose is not contradicted by physical evidence the way some current tenets are contradicted by the evidence. Meanwhile, my perspective of the Old Kingdom is at least possible. I don't believe we can say the same thing about some traditional hypotheses.


> There is no doubt to me Dynastic Egypt is the product of an
> earlier foreign influence, but there is nothing in reality to
> separate them so far in time as to be completely disconnected
> from one another particularly throughout the whole of AE
> history as you wish to do.

Again, think Old Kingdom, not the entire Dynastic era.

The traditionally accepted early timeline (by Lehner) is wrong and needs some major reconciliation.

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Khufu’s Salient Stele 730 Dr. Troglodyte 10-Jan-15 23:39
Re: Khufu’s Salient Stele 331 Luminescence 11-Jan-15 00:50
Re: Khufu’s Salient Stele 351 drew 11-Jan-15 01:19
Re: Khufu’s Salient Stele 499 molder 11-Jan-15 08:03
Re: Khufu’s Salient Stele 425 eyeofhorus33 11-Jan-15 10:32
Re: Khufu’s Salient Stele 335 molder 11-Jan-15 11:32
Re: Khufu’s Salient Stele 327 Jon Ellison 11-Jan-15 15:27
Re: Khufu’s Salient Stele 342 molder 13-Jan-15 05:18
Re; Egyptian Budgies 349 molder 13-Jan-15 11:48
Re: Khufu’s Salient Stele 355 Skatha 19-Jan-15 23:38
Re: Khufu’s Salient Stele 365 eyeofhorus33 11-Jan-15 15:49
Re: Khufu’s Salient Stele 408 DScribr 11-Jan-15 16:13
Re: Khufu’s Salient Stele 335 molder 14-Jan-15 22:09
Re: Khufu’s Salient Stele 355 Origyptian 14-Jan-15 22:21
Re: Khufu’s Salient Stele 377 eyeofhorus33 14-Jan-15 22:37
Re: Khufu’s Salient Stele 355 Martin Stower 14-Jan-15 22:48
Re: Khufu’s Salient Stele 332 sfbey 14-Jan-15 22:53
Re: Khufu’s Salient Stele 324 Martin Stower 14-Jan-15 23:00
...the one at Giza. n/t 396 cladking 15-Jan-15 01:53
Re: Khufu’s Salient Stele 365 Origyptian 15-Jan-15 00:37
Re: Khufu’s painting Scribe 335 DScribr 15-Jan-15 01:30
Re: Khufu’s Salient Stele 376 Jon Ellison 14-Jan-15 22:54
Re: Khufu’s Salient Stele 426 Origyptian 15-Jan-15 00:44
Re: Khufu’s Salient Stele 386 Jon Ellison 15-Jan-15 00:51
Re: Khufu’s Salient Stele 359 Origyptian 15-Jan-15 01:26
Re: Khufu’s Salient Stele 373 cladking 15-Jan-15 02:02
Re: Khufu’s Salient Stele 362 Jon Ellison 15-Jan-15 03:06
Re: Khufu’s Salient Stele 390 Origyptian 15-Jan-15 00:29
Re: Khufu’s Salient Stele 293 DScribr 11-Jan-15 16:04
Re: Khufu’s Salient Stele 379 eyeofhorus33 11-Jan-15 16:09
Re: Khufu’s Salient Stele 342 Jon B 11-Jan-15 15:10
Re: Khufu’s Salient Stele 418 cladking 11-Jan-15 15:29
Re: Campbells ??? Khufu’s Salient Stele 394 Luminescence 11-Jan-15 16:11
Re: Campbells ??? Khufu’s Salient Stele 387 eyeofhorus33 11-Jan-15 16:36
Re: Campbells ??? Khufu’s Salient Stele 320 DScribr 11-Jan-15 17:06
Re: Campbells ??? Khufu’s Salient Stele 365 Archae Solenhofen 11-Jan-15 18:44
Re: Campbells ??? Khufu’s Cartouche orientation. 413 DScribr 11-Jan-15 16:56
Re: Khufu’s Salient Stele 404 Polyfreak 11-Jan-15 17:54
Re: Documentation Khufu’s Salient Stele 340 Luminescence 12-Jan-15 15:09
Re: Documentation Khufu’s Salient Stele 359 cladking 12-Jan-15 15:29
Re:More Documentation Of Ramps. 353 DScribr 12-Jan-15 15:42
Re:More Documentation Of Ramps. 336 cladking 12-Jan-15 15:53
Re:EVEN More Documentation Of Ramps. 408 DScribr 13-Jan-15 01:17
Re:EVEN More Documentation Of Ramps. 367 cladking 13-Jan-15 02:17
Re:EVEN More Documentation Of Ramps. 339 DScribr 13-Jan-15 03:45
Re:EVEN More Documentation Of Ramps. 362 Origyptian 13-Jan-15 03:50
Re:EVEN More Documentation Of Ramps. 398 cladking 13-Jan-15 05:10
Re:EVEN More Documentation Of Ramps. 360 Origyptian 13-Jan-15 02:34
Re:Webster's Definition Of Ramps. 343 DScribr 13-Jan-15 03:54
Re:Webster's Definition Of Ramps. 347 Origyptian 13-Jan-15 04:07
Re:Webster's Definition Of Ramps. 396 cladking 13-Jan-15 05:16
Re:Documentation Of Ramps. 322 DScribr 13-Jan-15 14:51
Re:Documentation Of Ramps. 390 Origyptian 13-Jan-15 16:24
Re: Documentation Khufu’s Salient Stele 333 Jon Ellison 12-Jan-15 15:47
Re: Documentation Khufu’s Salient Stele 425 DScribr 12-Jan-15 15:51
Re: Documentation Khufu’s Salient Stele 383 cladking 12-Jan-15 15:59
Re: Documentation Khufu’s Salient Stele 289 Jon Ellison 12-Jan-15 16:07
Re: Documentation Khufu’s Salient Stele 368 DScribr 12-Jan-15 16:23
Re: Documentation Khufu’s Salient Stele 376 DScribr 12-Jan-15 16:12
Re: Documentation Khufu’s Salient Stele 336 cladking 12-Jan-15 16:37
Re: Documentation Khufu’s Salient Stele 362 sfbey 12-Jan-15 16:44
Re: Documentation Khufu’s Salient Stele 383 Origyptian 12-Jan-15 17:16
Re: Documentation Khufu’s Salient Stele 311 Jon Ellison 12-Jan-15 17:29
Re: Documentation Khufu’s Salient Stele 334 sfbey 12-Jan-15 17:35
Re: Documentation Khufu’s Salient Stele 402 Jon Ellison 12-Jan-15 17:40
Re: Documentation Khufu’s Salient Stele 279 Origyptian 12-Jan-15 17:48
Re: Documentation Khufu’s Salient Stele 390 sfbey 12-Jan-15 17:59
Re: Documentation Khufu’s Salient Stele 392 Origyptian 12-Jan-15 19:04
Re: Documentation Khufu’s Salient Stele 380 cladking 12-Jan-15 19:55
Re: Documentation Khufu’s Salient Stele 360 sfbey 12-Jan-15 20:36
Re: Documentation Khufu’s Salient Stele 394 Origyptian 12-Jan-15 20:55
Re: Documentation Khufu’s Salient Stele 423 cladking 12-Jan-15 20:56
Re: Documentation Khufu’s Salient Stele 381 sfbey 12-Jan-15 21:09
Re: Documentation Khufu’s Salient Stele 258 Origyptian 12-Jan-15 21:21
Re: Documentation Khufu’s Salient Stele 372 sfbey 12-Jan-15 21:35
Re: Documentation Khufu’s Salient Stele 293 Origyptian 12-Jan-15 21:37
Re: Documentation Khufu’s Salient Stele 307 Jon Ellison 12-Jan-15 21:37
Re: Documentation Khufu’s Salient Stele 352 Origyptian 12-Jan-15 21:40
Re: Documentation Khufu’s Salient Stele 359 Jon Ellison 12-Jan-15 21:52
Re: Documentation Khufu’s Salient Stele 336 sfbey 12-Jan-15 23:01
Re: Documentation Khufu’s Salient Stele 407 cladking 13-Jan-15 02:14
Re: Documentation Khufu’s Salient Stele 395 sfbey 13-Jan-15 02:43
Re: Documentation Khufu’s Salient Stele 384 cladking 13-Jan-15 05:22
Re: Documentation Khufu’s Salient Stele 340 sfbey 13-Jan-15 13:52
Re: Documentation Khufu’s Salient Stele 362 cladking 13-Jan-15 14:55
Re: Documentation Khufu’s Salient Stele 309 Origyptian 13-Jan-15 16:03
Re: Documentation Khufu’s Salient Stele 380 cladking 13-Jan-15 16:53
Pyramid Lines 341 sfbey 13-Jan-15 03:04
Re: Pyramid Lines 363 DScribr 13-Jan-15 03:37
Re: Pyramid Lines 295 cladking 13-Jan-15 05:30
Re: NO factual Documentation??? Khufu’s Salient Stele 417 Luminescence 12-Jan-15 17:47
Re: NO factual Documentation??? Khufu’s Salient Stele 332 Jon Ellison 12-Jan-15 17:57
Re: NO factual Documentation??? Khufu’s Salient Stele 388 Luminescence 12-Jan-15 18:01
Re: NO factual Documentation??? Khufu’s Salient Stele 396 eyeofhorus33 12-Jan-15 18:16
Re: NO factual Documentation??? Khufu’s Salient Stele 411 Scott Creighton 12-Jan-15 18:32
Re: NO factual Documentation??? Khufu’s Salient Stele 377 eyeofhorus33 12-Jan-15 18:46
Re: NO factual Documentation??? Khufu’s Salient Stele 384 Scott Creighton 12-Jan-15 19:00
Re: NO factual Documentation??? Khufu’s Salient Stele 361 Origyptian 12-Jan-15 19:10
Re: NO factual Documentation??? Khufu’s Salient Stele 346 Scott Creighton 12-Jan-15 19:46
Re: NO factual Documentation??? Khufu’s Salient Stele 362 Jon Ellison 12-Jan-15 19:10
Re: NO factual Documentation??? Khufu’s Salient Stele 325 Jon Ellison 12-Jan-15 19:01
Re: NO factual Documentation??? Khufu’s Salient Stele 421 eyeofhorus33 12-Jan-15 19:48
Re: NO factual Documentation??? Khufu’s Salient Stele 354 Scott Creighton 12-Jan-15 19:53
Re: NO factual Documentation??? Khufu’s Salient Stele 355 Merrell 12-Jan-15 20:08
Re: NO factual Documentation??? Khufu’s Salient Stele 372 eyeofhorus33 12-Jan-15 20:44
Re: NO factual Documentation??? Khufu’s Salient Stele 392 Martin Stower 12-Jan-15 21:43
Re: NO factual Documentation??? Khufu’s Salient Stele 344 Origyptian 12-Jan-15 20:11
Re: NO factual Documentation??? Khufu’s Salient Stele 316 Jon Ellison 12-Jan-15 20:22
Re: NO factual Documentation??? Khufu’s Salient Stele 359 Origyptian 12-Jan-15 20:34
Re: NO factual Documentation??? Khufu’s Salient Stele 311 eyeofhorus33 12-Jan-15 20:34
Re: NO factual Documentation??? Khufu’s Salient Stele 290 Origyptian 12-Jan-15 20:53
Re: NO factual Documentation??? Khufu’s Salient Stele 388 eyeofhorus33 12-Jan-15 21:02
Re: NO factual Documentation??? Khufu’s Salient Stele 381 Martin Stower 12-Jan-15 22:50
Re: NO factual Documentation??? Khufu’s Salient Stele 332 Origyptian 12-Jan-15 23:06
Re: NO factual Documentation??? Khufu’s Salient Stele 339 sfbey 12-Jan-15 23:16
Re: NO factual Documentation??? Khufu’s Salient Stele 420 Origyptian 12-Jan-15 23:49
Re: Interpretations NO factual Documentation??? Khufu’s Salient Stele 393 Luminescence 13-Jan-15 00:03
Re: Interpretations NO factual Documentation??? Khufu’s Salient Stele 359 Origyptian 13-Jan-15 00:30
Re: Interpretations NO factual Documentation??? Khufu’s Salient Stele 358 Luminescence 13-Jan-15 01:22
Re: NO factual Documentation??? Khufu’s Salient Stele 428 sfbey 13-Jan-15 01:18
Re: NO factual Documentation??? Khufu’s Salient Stele 382 Origyptian 13-Jan-15 02:40
Re: NO factual Documentation??? Khufu’s Salient Stele 407 Scott Creighton 12-Jan-15 23:43
Re: NO factual Documentation??? Khufu’s Salient Stele 405 Luminescence 12-Jan-15 23:57
Re: NO factual Documentation??? Khufu’s Salient Stele 362 Scott Creighton 13-Jan-15 00:06
Re: NO factual Documentation??? Khufu’s Salient Stele 429 Origyptian 13-Jan-15 00:19
R factual documentation results in misinterpretation. 414 DScribr 13-Jan-15 00:38
Re: R factual documentation results in misinterpretation. 368 Origyptian 13-Jan-15 02:04
Khufu’s Salient Stele. The proof is in his consistency. 369 DScribr 13-Jan-15 00:47
Re: Khufu’s Salient Stele. The proof is in his consistency. 369 Scott Creighton 13-Jan-15 00:56
Re: Khufu’s Salient Stele. The proof is in his consistency. 312 DScribr 13-Jan-15 01:38
Re: Khufu’s Salient Stele. The proof is in his consistency. 366 Martin Stower 13-Jan-15 01:44
Not surprised the proof is in his consistency. 289 DScribr 13-Jan-15 01:51
Re: NO factual Documentation??? Khufu’s Salient Stele 380 Jon Ellison 13-Jan-15 00:49
Re: NO factual Documentation??? Khufu’s Salient Stele 370 Luminescence 13-Jan-15 01:37
Re: NO factual Documentation??? Khufu’s Salient Stele 320 Jon Ellison 13-Jan-15 01:44
Re: NO factual Documentation??? Khufu’s Salient Stele 307 Origyptian 13-Jan-15 01:53
Re: NO factual Documentation??? Khufu’s Salient Stele 347 Origyptian 13-Jan-15 00:06
Re: NO factual Documentation??? Khufu’s Salient Stele 273 Scott Creighton 13-Jan-15 00:09
Re: NO factual Documentation??? Khufu’s Salient Stele 294 DScribr 13-Jan-15 00:31
Re: NO factual Documentation??? Khufu’s Salient Stele 339 Scott Creighton 13-Jan-15 00:33
Re: NO factual Documentation??? Khufu’s Salient Stele 330 Martin Stower 13-Jan-15 01:37
Re: NO factual Documentation??? 322 DScribr 13-Jan-15 01:45
Re: NO factual Documentation??? 337 Martin Stower 13-Jan-15 02:31
Re: NO factual Documentation??? 284 DScribr 13-Jan-15 03:09
Re: NO factual Documentation??? Khufu’s Salient Stele 330 Luminescence 13-Jan-15 01:10
Re: NO factual Documentation??? Khufu’s Salient Stele 372 Martin Stower 13-Jan-15 01:20
Re: NO factual Documentation??? Khufu’s Salient Stele 300 Scott Creighton 13-Jan-15 01:39
Re: NO factual Documentation??? Khufu’s Salient Stele 366 Martin Stower 13-Jan-15 02:24
Re: NO factual Documentation??? Khufu’s Salient Stele 254 Scott Creighton 13-Jan-15 02:28
Re: NO factual Documentation??? Khufu’s Salient Stele 327 Luminescence 13-Jan-15 02:49
Re: NO factual Documentation??? Khufu’s Salient Stele 303 Martin Stower 13-Jan-15 02:55
Re: NO factual Documentation??? Khufu’s Salient Stele 366 Scott Creighton 13-Jan-15 03:08
Re: NO factual Documentation, speculation and assumption. 329 DScribr 13-Jan-15 03:32
Re: NO factual Documentation, speculation and assumption. 299 Scott Creighton 13-Jan-15 10:28
Re: Factual Documentation. 291 DScribr 13-Jan-15 14:30
Re: Factual Documentation. 343 Scott Creighton 13-Jan-15 14:57
Re: Factual Documentation. 327 Origyptian 13-Jan-15 15:57
Re: Factual Documentation. 270 Martin Stower 14-Jan-15 14:51
Re: Factual Documentation. 305 Origyptian 14-Jan-15 15:53
Re: Factual Documentation. 321 DScribr 14-Jan-15 15:17
Re: Factual Documentation. 283 Jon Ellison 14-Jan-15 15:26
Re: Factual Documentation VS Spin. 348 DScribr 14-Jan-15 15:46
Re: Factual Documentation. 358 Origyptian 14-Jan-15 16:03
Re: Factual Documentation. 359 Jon Ellison 14-Jan-15 16:31
Re: Factual Documentation. 364 Origyptian 14-Jan-15 16:51
Re: NO factual Documentation, speculation and assumption. 420 Martin Stower 14-Jan-15 14:49
Re: NO factual Documentation??? Khufu’s Salient Stele 324 eyeofhorus33 13-Jan-15 16:17
Re: NO factual Documentation??? Khufu’s Salient Stele 385 Martin Stower 13-Jan-15 23:37
Re: NO factual Documentation??? Khufu’s Salient Stele 323 sfbey 14-Jan-15 01:48
Re: NO factual Documentation??? Khufu’s Salient Stele 385 Martin Stower 14-Jan-15 14:36
Re: NO factual Documentation??? Khufu’s Salient Stele 412 Scott Creighton 14-Jan-15 09:59
Re: NO factual Documentation??? Khufu’s Salient Stele 469 Martin Stower 14-Jan-15 14:03
Re: NO factual Documentation??? Khufu’s Salient Stele 356 DScribr 14-Jan-15 15:09
Re: NO factual Documentation??? Khufu’s Salient Stele 291 Scott Creighton 14-Jan-15 15:09
Re: NO factual Documentation??? Khufu’s Salient Stele 368 DScribr 14-Jan-15 15:33
Re: NO factual Documentation??? Khufu’s Salient Stele 318 Scott Creighton 14-Jan-15 15:46
Re: NO factual Documentation??? Khufu’s Salient Stele 398 Martin Stower 14-Jan-15 16:29
Re: NO factual Documentation??? Khufu’s Salient Stele 274 Jon Ellison 14-Jan-15 16:49
Re: NO factual Documentation??? Khufu’s Salient Stele 378 Martin Stower 14-Jan-15 17:17
Re: NO factual Documentation??? Khufu’s Salient Stele 308 Scott Creighton 14-Jan-15 16:51
Re: NO factual Documentation??? Khufu’s Salient Stele 348 Martin Stower 14-Jan-15 17:22
Re: NO factual Documentation??? Khufu’s Salient Stele 359 Jon Ellison 14-Jan-15 17:29
Re: NO factual Documentation??? Khufu’s Salient Stele 372 Martin Stower 14-Jan-15 18:21
Re: NO factual Documentation??? Khufu’s Salient Stele 348 Origyptian 14-Jan-15 18:38
Re: NO factual Documentation??? Khufu’s Salient Stele 340 Martin Stower 14-Jan-15 19:20
Re: NO factual Documentation??? Khufu’s Salient Stele 354 Origyptian 14-Jan-15 21:34
Re: NO factual Documentation??? Khufu’s Salient Stele 313 Jon Ellison 14-Jan-15 18:49
Re: NO factual Documentation??? Khufu’s Salient Stele 333 Martin Stower 14-Jan-15 19:15
Re: NO factual Documentation??? Khufu’s Salient Stele 360 Martin Stower 14-Jan-15 16:32
Re: NO factual Documentation??? Khufu’s Salient Stele 344 Scott Creighton 14-Jan-15 17:00
Re: NO factual Documentation??? Khufu’s Salient Stele 289 Martin Stower 14-Jan-15 17:27
Re: NO factual Documentation??? Khufu’s Salient Stele 331 Martin Stower 14-Jan-15 15:55
Re: NO factual Documentation??? Khufu’s Salient Stele 303 Scott Creighton 14-Jan-15 16:06
Re: NO factual Documentation??? Khufu’s Salient Stele 373 Martin Stower 14-Jan-15 16:51
Re: NO factual Documentation??? Khufu’s Salient Stele 421 Scott Creighton 14-Jan-15 16:56
Re: NO factual Documentation??? Khufu’s Salient Stele 274 Martin Stower 14-Jan-15 19:09
Re: NO factual Documentation??? Khufu’s Salient Stele 262 Origyptian 14-Jan-15 16:09
Re: NO factual Documentation??? Khufu’s Salient Stele 315 Scott Creighton 14-Jan-15 16:14
Re: NO factual Documentation??? Khufu’s Salient Stele 371 Martin Stower 14-Jan-15 16:56
Re: NO factual Documentation??? Khufu’s Salient Stele 278 Jon Ellison 14-Jan-15 14:50
Re: NO factual Documentation??? Khufu’s Salient Stele 386 Scott Creighton 15-Jan-15 00:39
Re: NO factual Documentation??? Khufu’s Salient Stele 258 Jon Ellison 15-Jan-15 00:48
Re: NO factual Documentation??? Khufu’s Salient Stele 310 Origyptian 15-Jan-15 01:22
Re: NO factual Documentation??? Khufu’s Salient Stele 337 Jon Ellison 15-Jan-15 02:36
Re: NO factual Documentation??? Khufu’s Salient Stele 243 Martin Stower 15-Jan-15 02:08
Re: NO factual Documentation??? Khufu’s Salient Stele 330 Jon Ellison 15-Jan-15 03:53
Re: NO factual Documentation??? Khufu’s Salient Stele 257 sfbey 15-Jan-15 04:25
Re: NO factual Documentation??? Khufu’s Salient Stele 361 Martin Stower 15-Jan-15 15:09
Re: NO factual Documentation??? Khufu’s Salient Stele 305 Martin Stower 15-Jan-15 01:55
Re: NO factual Documentation??? Khufu’s Salient Stele 323 Scott Creighton 15-Jan-15 10:20
Re: NO factual Documentation??? Khufu’s Salient Stele 347 Martin Stower 15-Jan-15 15:30
Re: NO factual Documentation??? Khufu’s Salient Stele 267 cladking 14-Jan-15 02:52
Re: NO factual Documentation??? Khufu’s Salient Stele 322 Origyptian 12-Jan-15 23:18
Re: NO factual Documentation??? Khufu’s Salient Stele 275 Jon Ellison 12-Jan-15 20:34
Re: NO factual Documentation??? Khufu’s Salient Stele 354 cladking 12-Jan-15 21:01
Re: NO factual Documentation??? Khufu’s Salient Stele 330 Origyptian 12-Jan-15 22:49
Re: NO factual Documentation??? Khufu’s Salient Stele 374 Jon Ellison 12-Jan-15 20:46
Re: NO factual Documentation??? Khufu’s Salient Stele 224 Luminescence 12-Jan-15 19:11
Re: NO factual Documentation??? Khufu’s Salient Stele 312 Jon Ellison 12-Jan-15 19:36
Re:Factual Documentation, For CD. 316 DScribr 13-Jan-15 01:07
Re:Factual Documentation, For CD. 340 Luminescence 13-Jan-15 01:42
Re:Factual Documentation, For CD. 325 DScribr 13-Jan-15 02:18
Re:Factual Documentation, For CD. 339 Origyptian 13-Jan-15 02:25
Re:Factual Documentation, For CD. 294 DScribr 13-Jan-15 02:39
Re:Factual Documentation, For CD. 292 Origyptian 13-Jan-15 02:46
Re:Factual Documentation, and common-sense. 371 DScribr 13-Jan-15 03:26
Re:Factual Documentation, and common-sense. 327 Origyptian 13-Jan-15 03:40
Re:Factual Documentation, For CD. 297 Origyptian 13-Jan-15 03:49
Re:Factual Documentation, For CD. 375 eyeofhorus33 13-Jan-15 16:27
Re:Factual Documentation, For CD. 396 Origyptian 13-Jan-15 16:35
Re:Factual Documentation, For CD. 326 Morten 14-Jan-15 08:48
Re:Factual Documentation, For CD. 334 eyeofhorus33 14-Jan-15 17:56
Re:Factual Documentation, For CD. 256 Scott Creighton 14-Jan-15 18:08
Re:Factual Documentation, For CD. 296 eyeofhorus33 14-Jan-15 20:52
Re:Factual Documentation, For CD. 355 Martin Stower 14-Jan-15 22:39
Re:Factual Documentation, For CD. 223 Scott Creighton 14-Jan-15 23:48
Re:Factual Documentation, For CD. 383 Origyptian 15-Jan-15 01:09
Re:Factual Documentation, For CD. 339 Martin Stower 15-Jan-15 01:23
Re:Factual Documentation, For CD. 340 Jon Ellison 14-Jan-15 18:11
Re:Factual Documentation, For CD. 337 Origyptian 14-Jan-15 18:12
Re:Factual Documentation, For CD. 295 eyeofhorus33 14-Jan-15 20:55
Re:Factual Documentation, For CD. 284 Jon Ellison 14-Jan-15 21:24
Re:Factual Documentation, For CD. 277 Origyptian 14-Jan-15 21:47
Re:Factual Documentation, For CD. 306 Martin Stower 14-Jan-15 18:26
Re:Factual Documentation, For CD. 351 Scott Creighton 14-Jan-15 18:31
Re:Factual Documentation, For CD. 320 Martin Stower 14-Jan-15 19:11
Re:Factual Documentation, For CD. 301 Scott Creighton 14-Jan-15 19:48
Re:Factual Documentation, For CD. 330 Martin Stower 14-Jan-15 19:59
Re:Factual Documentation, For CD. 320 DUNE 14-Jan-15 20:03
Re:Factual Documentation, For CD. 366 sfbey 14-Jan-15 20:10
Re:Factual Documentation, For CD. 320 DUNE 14-Jan-15 20:14
Re:Factual Documentation, For CD. 281 Jon Ellison 14-Jan-15 20:39
Re:Factual Documentation, For CD. 364 DUNE 14-Jan-15 20:42
Re:Factual Documentation, For CD. 330 Jon Ellison 14-Jan-15 21:08
Re:Factual Documentation, For CD. 331 sfbey 14-Jan-15 20:54
Re:Factual Documentation, For CD. 317 DUNE 14-Jan-15 21:24
Re:Factual Documentation, For CD. 319 Jon Ellison 14-Jan-15 21:31
Re:Factual Documentation, For CD. 374 Origyptian 14-Jan-15 21:38
Re:Factual Documentation, For CD. 276 Jon Ellison 14-Jan-15 21:43
Re:Factual Documentation, For CD. 334 Origyptian 14-Jan-15 22:16
Re:Factual Documentation, For CD. 294 Jon Ellison 14-Jan-15 22:40
Re:Factual Documentation, For CD. 341 DUNE 14-Jan-15 22:50
Re:Factual Documentation, For CD. 328 Origyptian 15-Jan-15 01:17
Re:Factual Documentation, For CD. 348 sfbey 14-Jan-15 21:47
Re:Factual Documentation, For CD. 279 Martin Stower 14-Jan-15 22:12
Re:Factual Documentation, For CD. 343 molder 22-Jan-15 12:18
Re:Factual Documentation, For CD. 312 Merrell 22-Jan-15 13:32
Re:Factual Documentation, For CD. 364 molder 23-Jan-15 04:23
Re:Factual Documentation, For CD. 265 Frank D 23-Jan-15 00:53
Re: Khufu’s Salient Stele 329 Origyptian 16-Jan-15 16:32
Re: Khufu’s Salient Stele 318 DUNE 16-Jan-15 17:40
Re: Khufu’s Salient Stele 347 Thanos5150 16-Jan-15 19:25
Re: Khufu’s Salient Stele 299 Origyptian 16-Jan-15 19:49
Re: Khufu’s Salient Stele 289 Thanos5150 16-Jan-15 22:39
Re: Khufu’s Salient Stele 331 Origyptian 16-Jan-15 22:55
Re: Khufu’s Salient Stele 350 eyeofhorus33 16-Jan-15 23:03
Re: Khufu’s Salient Stele 317 Jon Ellison 16-Jan-15 23:26
Re: Khufu’s Salient Stele 368 eyeofhorus33 16-Jan-15 23:48
Re: Khufu’s Salient Stele 335 Jon Ellison 17-Jan-15 00:11
Re: Khufu’s Salient Stele 270 Jon Ellison 17-Jan-15 00:13
Re: Khufu’s Salient Stele 346 Origyptian 17-Jan-15 00:24
Re: Khufu’s Salient Stele 319 MJT 17-Jan-15 01:45
Re: Khufu’s Salient Stele 329 Jon Ellison 17-Jan-15 02:19
Re: Khufu’s Salient Stele 303 cladking 17-Jan-15 01:46
Re: Khufu’s Salient Stele 269 Origyptian 20-Jan-15 01:56
Re: Khufu’s Salient Stele 360 Thanos5150 20-Jan-15 02:22
Re: Khufu’s Salient Stele 306 Origyptian 20-Jan-15 05:18
Re: Khufu’s Salient Stele 304 Thanos5150 20-Jan-15 05:32
Re: Khufu’s Salient Stele 346 Origyptian 20-Jan-15 21:16
Re: Khufu’s Salient Stele 290 Dr. Troglodyte 20-Jan-15 23:45
Re: Khufu’s Salient Stele 336 Origyptian 21-Jan-15 00:50
Re: Khufu’s Salient Stele 298 sfbey 21-Jan-15 02:48
Re: Khufu’s Salient Stele 307 Thanos5150 21-Jan-15 06:06
Re: Khufu’s Salient Stele 358 Origyptian 22-Jan-15 06:48
Re: Royal Burials 248 Thunderbird 22-Jan-15 17:00
Re: Royal Burials 246 Thanos5150 22-Jan-15 17:29
Re:Sneferu 233 Thunderbird 23-Jan-15 16:47
Re: Serapeum - Gigal 187 Thunderbird 23-Jan-15 18:34
Re: Serapeum - Gigal 248 Martin Stower 25-Jan-15 01:44
Re: Khufu’s Salient Stele 307 sfbey 20-Jan-15 02:33
Re: Khufu’s Salient Stele 204 Origyptian 20-Jan-15 05:29
Re: Khufu’s Salient Stele 199 Skatha 20-Jan-15 05:44
Re: Khufu’s Salient Stele 188 Origyptian 20-Jan-15 07:10
Re: Khufu’s Salient Stele 162 Jon Ellison 20-Jan-15 13:21
Re: Khufu’s Salient Stele 151 Origyptian 20-Jan-15 19:42
Re: Khufu’s Salient Stele 147 DUNE 20-Jan-15 14:16
Re: Khufu’s Salient Stele 165 Skatha 20-Jan-15 20:02
Re: Khufu’s Salient Stele 151 DUNE 20-Jan-15 20:17
Re: Khufu’s Salient Stele 150 Martin Stower 20-Jan-15 21:30
Re: Khufu’s Salient Stele 132 Origyptian 20-Jan-15 22:08
Re: Khufu’s Salient Stele 173 Martin Stower 20-Jan-15 20:32
Re: Khufu’s Salient Stele 189 Origyptian 20-Jan-15 21:57
Re: Khufu’s Salient Stele 138 eyeofhorus33 20-Jan-15 22:13
Re: Khufu’s Salient Stele 137 Origyptian 20-Jan-15 22:27
Re: Khufu’s Salient Stele 166 eyeofhorus33 21-Jan-15 16:04
Re: Khufu’s Salient Stele 162 DUNE 21-Jan-15 16:35
Re: Khufu’s Salient Stele 179 eyeofhorus33 21-Jan-15 16:46
Re: Khufu’s Salient Stele 271 Origyptian 21-Jan-15 21:58
Re: Khufu’s Salient Stele 282 sfbey 21-Jan-15 22:26
Re: Khufu’s Salient Stele 191 Origyptian 21-Jan-15 23:39
Re: Khufu’s Salient Stele 225 Martin Stower 21-Jan-15 23:49
Re: Khufu’s Salient Stele 162 Origyptian 22-Jan-15 02:25
Re: Khufu’s Salient Stele 262 Martin Stower 21-Jan-15 23:56
Re: Khufu’s Salient Stele 217 Origyptian 22-Jan-15 02:27
Re: Khufu’s Salient Stele 291 sfbey 22-Jan-15 02:54
Re: Khufu’s Salient Stele 228 Origyptian 22-Jan-15 03:56
Re: Khufu’s Salient Stele 185 sfbey 22-Jan-15 04:38
Re: Khufu’s Salient Stele 234 Origyptian 22-Jan-15 04:51
Re: Khufu’s Salient Stele 287 sfbey 22-Jan-15 12:53
Re: Khufu’s Salient Stele 239 Origyptian 22-Jan-15 16:57
Re: Khufu’s Salient Stele-False inferences. 257 DScribr 23-Jan-15 00:15
Re: Khufu’s Salient Stele-False inferences. 186 Origyptian 23-Jan-15 00:45
Re: Khufu’s Salient Stele-False inferences. 139 DScribr 23-Jan-15 02:45
Re: Khufu’s Salient Stele-False inferences. 190 Origyptian 23-Jan-15 03:37
Re: Khufu’s Salient Stele-False inferences. 121 Martin Stower 23-Jan-15 03:42
Re: Khufu’s Salient Stele 254 Martin Stower 22-Jan-15 03:34
Re: Khufu’s Salient Stele 249 sfbey 22-Jan-15 03:35
Re: Khufu’s Salient Stele 231 Martin Stower 22-Jan-15 03:41
Re: Khufu’s Salient Stele 225 Origyptian 22-Jan-15 04:05
Re: Khufu’s Salient Stele 254 Origyptian 22-Jan-15 04:00
Re: Khufu’s Salient Stele 128 Merrell 22-Jan-15 11:08
Re: Khufu’s Salient Stele 168 Origyptian 22-Jan-15 15:58
Re: Khufu’s Salient Stele 156 Origyptian 22-Jan-15 17:05
Re: Khufu’s Salient Stele 165 DUNE 22-Jan-15 17:41
Re: Khufu’s Salient Stele 217 Origyptian 22-Jan-15 17:52
Re: Khufu’s Salient Stele 216 Audrey 23-Jan-15 00:51
Re: Khufu’s Salient Stele 269 Origyptian 23-Jan-15 01:33
Re: Khufu’s Salient Stele 295 sfbey 23-Jan-15 02:35
Re: Khufu’s Salient Stele 207 Audrey 23-Jan-15 05:41
Re: Khufu’s Salient Stele 295 sfbey 23-Jan-15 15:36
Re: Khufu’s Salient Stele-Evidence dismissed, again! 238 DScribr 23-Jan-15 03:25
Re: Khufu’s Salient Stele-Evidence dismissed, again! 215 Origyptian 23-Jan-15 03:38
Re: Khufu’s Salient Stele-Evidence dismissed, again! 206 DScribr 23-Jan-15 03:48
Re: Khufu’s Salient Stele-Evidence dismissed, again! 162 Origyptian 23-Jan-15 04:28
Re: Khufu’s Salient Stele-Evidence dismissed, again! 125 DScribr 23-Jan-15 15:55
Re: Khufu’s Salient Stele-Evidence dismissed, again! 142 DUNE 23-Jan-15 16:27
Re: Khufu’s Salient Stele-Evidence dismissed, again! 122 Origyptian 23-Jan-15 17:02
Re: Khufu’s Salient Stele-Evidence dismissed, again! 137 DScribr 23-Jan-15 23:59
Re: Khufu’s Salient Stele 176 Thanos5150 22-Jan-15 04:37
Re: Khufu’s Salient Stele 166 Martin Stower 22-Jan-15 13:06
Re: Khufu’s Salient Stele 145 Origyptian 22-Jan-15 16:42
Re: Khufu’s Salient Stele 177 Merrell 22-Jan-15 17:02
Re: Khufu’s Salient Stele 216 Origyptian 22-Jan-15 17:42
Re: Khufu’s Salient Stele 214 Merrell 22-Jan-15 19:46
Re: Khufu’s Salient Stele 210 Jon Ellison 22-Jan-15 20:40
Re: Khufu’s Salient Stele 250 sfbey 22-Jan-15 20:59
Re: Khufu’s Salient Stele 216 Origyptian 22-Jan-15 21:15
Re: Khufu’s Salient Stele 203 Jon Ellison 22-Jan-15 21:23
Re: Khufu’s Salient Stele 123 Jon Ellison 22-Jan-15 22:08
Re: Khufu’s Salient Stele 151 Origyptian 22-Jan-15 21:14
Re: Khufu’s Salient Stele-Accepting First-Hand Reporting. 154 DScribr 22-Jan-15 23:56
Re: Khufu’s Salient Stele-Accepting First-Hand Reporting. 151 Origyptian 23-Jan-15 00:40
Re: Khufu’s Salient Stele-TOTAL BS, ORI! 156 DScribr 23-Jan-15 03:59
Re: Khufu’s Salient Stele-TOTAL BS, ORI! 147 Origyptian 23-Jan-15 04:33
Re: Khufu’s Salient Stele-More selective blindness. 164 DScribr 23-Jan-15 05:05
Re: Khufu’s Salient Stele-More selective blindness. 190 Origyptian 23-Jan-15 05:53
Re: Khufu’s Salient Stele-More selective blindness. 149 DScribr 24-Jan-15 00:39
Re: Khufu’s Salient Stele-Accepting First-Hand Reporting. 137 Martin Stower 23-Jan-15 01:11
Re: Khufu’s Salient Stele-Accepting First-Hand Reporting. 150 Origyptian 23-Jan-15 01:22
Re: Khufu’s Salient Stele-Accepting First-Hand Reporting. 133 Jon Ellison 23-Jan-15 01:42
Re: Khufu’s Salient Stele-Accepting First-Hand Reporting. 132 Audrey 23-Jan-15 02:09
Re: Khufu’s Salient Stele-Accepting First-Hand Reporting. 142 Jon Ellison 23-Jan-15 02:21
Re: Khufu’s Salient Stele-Accepting First-Hand Reporting. 143 Audrey 23-Jan-15 03:42
Re: Khufu’s Salient Stele-Accepting First-Hand Reporting. 154 Jon Ellison 23-Jan-15 10:49
Re: Khufu’s Salient Stele-Accepting First-Hand Reporting. 141 Origyptian 23-Jan-15 03:32
Re: Khufu’s Salient Stele-Accepting First-Hand Reporting. 120 Audrey 23-Jan-15 05:57
Re: Khufu’s Salient Stele-Accepting First-Hand Reporting. 141 Thanos5150 23-Jan-15 03:39
Re: Khufu’s Salient Stele-Accepting First-Hand Reporting. 145 Audrey 23-Jan-15 04:08
Re: Khufu’s Salient Stele-Accepting First-Hand Reporting. 134 Martin Stower 23-Jan-15 12:50
Re: Khufu’s Salient Stele-Accepting First-Hand Reporting. 146 Thanos5150 24-Jan-15 00:06
Re: Khufu’s Salient Stele-Accepting First-Hand Reporting. 167 Martin Stower 23-Jan-15 03:29
Re: Khufu’s Salient Stele-Accepting First-Hand Reporting. 141 Origyptian 23-Jan-15 03:44
Re: Khufu’s Salient Stele-Accepting First-Hand Reporting. 147 Martin Stower 23-Jan-15 11:45
Re: Khufu’s Salient Stele-Accepting First-Hand Reporting. 169 Jon Ellison 23-Jan-15 11:53
Re: Khufu’s Salient Stele-Accepting First-Hand Reporting. 181 Martin Stower 23-Jan-15 12:19
Re: Khufu’s Salient Stele-Accepting First-Hand Reporting. 142 Origyptian 23-Jan-15 22:01
Re: Khufu’s Salient Stele-Accepting First-Hand Reporting. 141 Martin Stower 24-Jan-15 02:21
Re: Khufu’s Salient Stele-Accepting First-Hand Reporting. 183 Scott Creighton 24-Jan-15 10:31
Re: Khufu’s Salient Stele-Accepting First-Hand Reporting. 124 Origyptian 24-Jan-15 16:17
Re: Khufu’s Salient Stele-Accepting First-Hand Reporting. 161 Scott Creighton 24-Jan-15 16:24
Re: Khufu’s Salient Stele-Accepting First-Hand Reporting. 108 DScribr 24-Jan-15 16:59
Re: Khufu’s Salient Stele-Accepting First-Hand Reporting. 145 Origyptian 24-Jan-15 18:12
Re: Khufu’s Salient Stele-Accepting First-Hand Reporting. 148 Jon Ellison 24-Jan-15 18:12
Re: Khufu’s Salient Stele-Accepting First-Hand Reporting. 171 Origyptian 24-Jan-15 18:19
Re: Khufu’s Salient Stele-Accepting First-Hand Reporting. 200 Martin Stower 25-Jan-15 03:16
Re: Khufu’s Salient Stele-Accepting First-Hand Reporting. 191 Origyptian 25-Jan-15 08:58
Re: Khufu’s Salient Stele-Accepting First-Hand Reporting. 190 cladking 25-Jan-15 15:59
Re: Khufu’s Salient Stele-Accepting First-Hand Reporting. 166 Martin Stower 24-Jan-15 23:59
Re: Khufu’s Salient Stele-Accepting First-Hand Reporting. 150 Origyptian 24-Jan-15 21:29
Re: Khufu’s Salient Stele-You call this evidence?!? 148 DScribr 24-Jan-15 00:26
Re: Khufu’s Salient Stele-Accepting First-Hand Reporting. 189 Martin Stower 24-Jan-15 03:36
Re: Khufu’s Salient Stele 132 Martin Stower 22-Jan-15 21:54
Re: Khufu’s Salient Stele 149 Origyptian 22-Jan-15 22:11
Re: Khufu’s Salient Stele 161 Martin Stower 23-Jan-15 03:12
Re: Khufu’s Salient Stele-Attested and authentic 4th Dynasty. 153 DScribr 23-Jan-15 04:24
Re: Khufu’s Salient Stele-Attested and authentic 4th Dynasty. 140 Origyptian 23-Jan-15 04:38
Re: Khufu’s Salient Stele-Attested and authentic 4th Dynasty. 162 DScribr 23-Jan-15 05:17
Re: Khufu’s Salient Stele-Attested and authentic 4th Dynasty. 147 Origyptian 23-Jan-15 05:55
Re: Khufu’s Salient Stele-Attested and authentic 4th Dynasty. 181 DScribr 23-Jan-15 15:30
Re: Khufu’s Salient Stele 187 Skatha 20-Jan-15 23:08
Re: Khufu’s Salient Stele 115 Origyptian 21-Jan-15 00:26
Re: Khufu’s Salient Stele 176 Martin Stower 21-Jan-15 01:25
Re: Khufu’s Salient Stele 141 Origyptian 21-Jan-15 03:45
Re: Khufu’s Salient Stele 164 Skatha 20-Jan-15 19:57
Re: Khufu’s Salient Stele 197 Origyptian 20-Jan-15 20:10
Re: Khufu’s Salient Stele 254 sfbey 21-Jan-15 02:42
Re: Khufu’s Salient Stele 231 Origyptian 21-Jan-15 03:59
Re: Khufu’s Salient Stele 212 Martin Stower 22-Jan-15 01:36
Re: Khufu’s Salient Stele 159 Origyptian 22-Jan-15 02:32
Re: Khufu’s Salient Stele 165 Merrell 22-Jan-15 11:05
Re: Khufu’s Salient Stele 156 Martin Stower 22-Jan-15 12:59
Re: Khufu’s Salient Stele 166 Origyptian 22-Jan-15 16:11
Re: Khufu’s Salient Stele-another "Forgery" 173 DScribr 22-Jan-15 16:42
Re: Khufu’s Salient Stele-another "Forgery" 147 Origyptian 22-Jan-15 17:30
Re: Khufu’s Salient Stele-Pathological Thuggery 168 DScribr 22-Jan-15 16:32
Re: Khufu’s Salient Stele-Pathological Thuggery 248 Origyptian 22-Jan-15 16:41
Re: Khufu’s Salient Stele-Saite Period Provenance? 216 Scott Creighton 22-Jan-15 16:54
Re: Khufu’s Salient Stele-Saite Period Provenance? 242 Origyptian 22-Jan-15 17:38
Re: Khufu’s Salient Stele-Saite Period Provenance? 266 sfbey 22-Jan-15 17:40
Re: Khufu’s Salient Stele-Saite Period Provenance? 290 Origyptian 22-Jan-15 17:47
Re: Khufu’s Salient Stele-Saite Period Provenance? 281 Scott Creighton 22-Jan-15 18:17
Re: Khufu’s Salient Stele-Saite Period Provenance? 192 Martin Stower 22-Jan-15 22:21
Re: Khufu’s Salient Stele-Saite Period Provenance? 237 Origyptian 22-Jan-15 22:29
Re: Khufu’s Salient Stele-Saite Period Provenance? 272 sfbey 22-Jan-15 22:45
Re: Khufu’s Salient Stele-Saite Period Provenance? 263 Origyptian 23-Jan-15 00:18
Re: Khufu’s Salient Stele-Saite Period Provenance? 255 sfbey 22-Jan-15 23:33
Re: Khufu’s Salient Stele-Saite Period Provenance? 196 Origyptian 23-Jan-15 00:21
Re: Khufu’s Salient Stele-Saite Period Provenance? 220 sfbey 23-Jan-15 01:34
Re: Khufu’s Salient Stele-Saite Period Provenance? 243 Scott Creighton 23-Jan-15 09:47
Re: Khufu’s Salient Stele-Pathological Thuggery 250 DScribr 22-Jan-15 16:59
Re: Khufu’s Salient Stele-Pathological Thuggery 203 Origyptian 22-Jan-15 17:40
Re: Khufu’s Salient Stele-Pathological Waffling. 216 DScribr 22-Jan-15 23:45
Re: Khufu’s Salient Stele-Pathological Waffling. 199 Origyptian 23-Jan-15 00:25
Re: Khufu’s Salient Stele-Pathological Waffling. 148 DScribr 23-Jan-15 03:09
Re: Khufu’s Salient Stele...It seems very problematic to consider 124 DScribr 16-Jan-15 18:03
Re: Khufu’s Salient Stele...It seems very problematic to consider 134 Origyptian 16-Jan-15 18:46
Re: Khufu’s Salient Stele...It seems very problematic to consider 141 DUNE 16-Jan-15 18:48
Re: Khufu’s Salient Stele...It seems very problematic to consider 143 Origyptian 16-Jan-15 18:59
Re: Khufu’s Salient Stele...It seems very problematic to consider 124 Jon Ellison 16-Jan-15 18:54
Re: Khufu’s Salient Stele...It seems very problematic to consider 132 Origyptian 16-Jan-15 19:05
Re: Khufu’s Salient Stele...It seems very problematic to consider 148 DUNE 16-Jan-15 19:41
Re: Khufu’s Salient Stele...It seems very problematic to consider 174 Origyptian 16-Jan-15 19:55
Re: Khufu’s Salient Stele...It seems very problematic to consider 188 Origyptian 16-Jan-15 21:07
Re: Khufu’s Salient Stele...It seems very problematic to consider 237 DUNE 16-Jan-15 21:33
Re: Khufu’s Salient Stele...It seems very problematic to consider 216 sfbey 16-Jan-15 21:37
Obit. 269 sfbey 16-Jan-15 21:45
Re: Obit. 235 Origyptian 16-Jan-15 22:41
Re: Obit. 251 Jon Ellison 16-Jan-15 22:51
Re: Khufu’s Salient Stele...It seems very problematic to consider 193 eyeofhorus33 16-Jan-15 20:02
Re: Khufu’s Salient Stele...It seems very problematic to consider 147 Origyptian 16-Jan-15 20:12
Re: Khufu’s Salient Stele...It seems very problematic to consider 141 Sirfiroth 17-Jan-15 13:48
Re: Khufu’s Salient Stele...It seems very problematic to consider 108 Origyptian 17-Jan-15 16:15
Re: Khufu’s Salient Stele...It seems very problematic to consider 187 eyeofhorus33 17-Jan-15 16:22
Re: Khufu’s Salient Stele...It seems very problematic to consider 213 Origyptian 17-Jan-15 17:36
Re: Khufu’s Salient Stele...It seems very problematic to consider 177 eyeofhorus33 17-Jan-15 17:48
Re: Khufu’s Salient Stele...It seems very problematic to consider 258 sfbey 17-Jan-15 17:53
Re: Khufu’s Salient Stele...It seems very problematic to consider 253 Origyptian 17-Jan-15 22:19
Re: Khufu’s Salient Stele...It seems very problematic to consider 246 sfbey 17-Jan-15 17:49
Re: Khufu’s Salient Stele...It seems very problematic to consider 258 Martin Stower 18-Jan-15 03:48
Re: Khufu’s Salient Stele...It seems very problematic to consider 258 Origyptian 18-Jan-15 08:19
Re: Khufu’s Salient Stele...It seems very problematic to consider 315 sfbey 17-Jan-15 17:11
Re: Khufu’s Salient Stele...It seems very problematic to consider 252 DUNE 17-Jan-15 17:21
Re: Khufu’s Salient Stele...It seems very problematic to consider 221 sfbey 17-Jan-15 17:27
Re: Khufu’s Salient Stele...It seems very problematic to consider 239 Morten 17-Jan-15 17:52
Re: Khufu’s Salient Stele...It seems very problematic to consider 180 Origyptian 17-Jan-15 18:01
Re: Khufu’s Salient Stele...It seems very problematic to consider 284 Morten 17-Jan-15 18:15
Re: Khufu’s Salient Stele...It seems very problematic to consider 243 Jon Ellison 17-Jan-15 18:25
Re: Khufu’s Salient Stele...It seems very problematic to consider 221 Origyptian 17-Jan-15 18:27
Re: Khufu’s Salient Stele...It seems very problematic to consider 209 Jon Ellison 17-Jan-15 18:35
Re: Khufu’s Salient Stele...It seems very problematic to consider 273 Morten 17-Jan-15 18:38
Re: Khufu’s Salient Stele...It seems very problematic to consider 246 Jon Ellison 17-Jan-15 18:40
Re: Khufu’s Salient Stele...It seems very problematic to consider 224 Origyptian 17-Jan-15 19:56
Re: Khufu’s Salient Stele...It seems very problematic to consider 147 Origyptian 17-Jan-15 21:07
Re: Khufu’s Salient Stele...It seems very problematic to consider 168 Martin Stower 18-Jan-15 01:54
Re: Khufu’s Salient Stele...It seems very problematic to consider 155 Jon Ellison 18-Jan-15 02:01
Re: Khufu’s Salient Stele...It seems very problematic to consider 207 Martin Stower 18-Jan-15 03:31
Re: Khufu’s Salient Stele...It seems very problematic to consider 211 Origyptian 18-Jan-15 08:37
Re: Khufu’s Salient Stele...It seems very problematic to consider 226 Origyptian 17-Jan-15 17:59
Re: Khufu’s Salient Stele...It seems very problematic to consider 250 sfbey 17-Jan-15 18:09
Re: Khufu’s Salient Stele...It seems very problematic to consider 228 Origyptian 17-Jan-15 18:21
Re: Khufu’s Salient Stele...It seems very problematic to consider 258 sfbey 17-Jan-15 18:31
Re: Khufu’s Salient Stele...It seems very problematic to consider 216 Thanos5150 17-Jan-15 19:02
Re: Khufu’s Salient Stele...It seems very problematic to consider 209 Origyptian 17-Jan-15 20:44
Re: Khufu’s Salient Stele...It seems very problematic to consider 152 Martin Stower 18-Jan-15 01:37
Re: Khufu’s Salient Stele...It seems very problematic to consider 176 Thanos5150 18-Jan-15 03:06
Re: Khufu’s Salient Stele...It seems very problematic to consider 150 Martin Stower 18-Jan-15 01:23
Re: Khufu’s Salient Stele...It seems very problematic to consider 159 eyeofhorus33 18-Jan-15 09:03
Re: Khufu’s Salient Stele...It seems very problematic to consider 137 Origyptian 18-Jan-15 09:51
Re: Khufu’s Salient Stele...It seems very problematic to consider 161 MJT 18-Jan-15 18:44
Re: Khufu’s Salient Stele...It seems very problematic to consider 151 Origyptian 18-Jan-15 19:35
Re: Khufu’s Salient Stele...It seems very problematic to consider 181 Martin Stower 18-Jan-15 19:49
Re: Khufu’s Salient Stele...It seems very problematic to consider 151 cladking 18-Jan-15 20:18
Re: Khufu’s Salient Stele...It seems very problematic to consider 139 Martin Stower 19-Jan-15 00:09
Re: Khufu’s Salient Stele...It seems very problematic to consider 122 cladking 19-Jan-15 00:25
Re: Khufu’s Salient Stele...It seems very problematic to consider 156 Martin Stower 19-Jan-15 01:20
Re: Khufu’s Salient Stele...It seems very problematic to consider 142 Jon Ellison 19-Jan-15 09:32
Re: Khufu’s Salient Stele...It seems very problematic to consider 151 cladking 19-Jan-15 15:48
Re: Khufu’s Salient Stele...It seems very problematic to consider 149 Origyptian 19-Jan-15 16:45
Re: Khufu’s Salient Stele...It seems very problematic to consider 151 cladking 19-Jan-15 18:28
Re: Khufu’s Salient Stele...It seems very problematic to consider 168 Martin Stower 19-Jan-15 21:40
Re: Khufu’s Salient Stele...It seems very problematic to consider 142 Jon Ellison 20-Jan-15 00:14
Re: Khufu’s Salient Stele...It seems very problematic to consider 154 Martin Stower 20-Jan-15 01:57
Re: Khufu’s Salient Stele...It seems very problematic to consider 128 Jon Ellison 20-Jan-15 04:51
Re: Khufu’s Salient Stele...It seems very problematic to consider 157 Martin Stower 20-Jan-15 14:56
Re: Khufu’s Salient Stele...It seems very problematic to consider 142 Origyptian 20-Jan-15 01:39
Re: Khufu’s Salient Stele..CK, using facts and evidence. 147 DScribr 19-Jan-15 18:12
Re: Khufu’s Salient Stele..CK, using facts and evidence. 161 cladking 19-Jan-15 18:44
Re: Khufu’s Salient Stele...It seems very problematic to consider 194 Origyptian 18-Jan-15 20:21
Re: Khufu’s Salient Stele...It seems very problematic to consider 202 Jon Ellison 17-Jan-15 17:59