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Hi Jon,

Yes the red lines do present an anomaly in regards to finding the correct timeline , and its this timeline that i feel is crucial to understanding the authenticity of that
cartouche.

Now on the question of when was this Plaster Whitewash applied, well i think the answer could lie in the repair job that was done AFTER the roof beams were put in, (see pic for repair), i think the damage was done to this beam during its positioning , so the repair guy was sent for with his bucket of plaster , and after filling in the crack he diluted what he had left in his bucket and slopped it over the surrounding area, clearly the cartouche is painted over the plaster when it dried, now that implies the cartouche was painted IN SITU , as many have already concluded.




Those lighter creamy markes, have they been additionally applied , or could they be scrape marks, its tricky, but i think if they were scrape marks of contemporary age then they would have acquired the same hue as the surrounding plaster.

Again its all down to establishing the correct timeline for these events.


Those splashes , if i understand you right, do you mean the lighter coloured plaster type material where the beam intersects with the side wall.
If that is your splashes , then to me it looks like they have been applied to cover up the red ochre paint that one can see underneath it.

Splashes ?





But another spanner in the works for determining a timeline is another plastering over red ochre marks in another section,


Clearly the plaster has been applied over the red ochre, and even this plastering seems to show two different applications , of course this may have been due to their plaster going off under extreme temperature and mixing a new batch on the spot.



On the question of Use of others photos, i did attempt on Collette Dowell's site to gain permission to use some of her pics, there was a link on her page where it said, if you want permission to use any photo please click here and ask, the link is not working, as i think we are using them for a genuine discussion on there subject matter in a non for profit manner on an open forum i feel fair use policy is being respected , as in each case we mention who owns the photos.

DPP



Post Edited (10-Sep-14 13:18)

The Speed of Light = 186,282,398 mps / 510000 = 365.259604

G1 x G2 x G3 / 12 / 5280 / 1.73206803 = 186,282,398

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