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shiningfromwithin wrote:
>> no one personalizes more than you, dude. no one.
>Actually, no, Jesse, much as people like to say that this is so (like you, just then), it’s not true. I discuss the issue when people let me. At most I give back a fraction of what’s thrown at me. I refuse to be shouted down.
wow. you admit that people say this, and then you deny all of their perceptions- valid ones, i obviously think- in favor of your own unassailably 'correct' reality, that nope- you're all good. listen to you- "it's not true".
well i and apparently others say it is.
but hey, no self examination needed, cuz you just know you're right, right?
no one is shouting you down, man- you just have an incredible insecurity/need to be right.
and to use one of your bullying, condescending phrases- 'i suggest that you' consider why you're at odds here with most posters- what makes you so certain of your rightness? no one here seems to need to believe anything more than you seem to need your own perceptions to be correct. like i said before, this vyse issue seems to be strongly identified with your personal social identity and your need to be seen as a person who 'knows the real story' above everyone else. why? you're excluding some very valid points that are being made simply because it causes you to have to admit that you might have erected a falsehood for yourself, and maybe your egyptology heroes.
>It’s a belief system when it’s what the other guy thinks. That’s part of your belief system. Another is that the “Vyse forgery” fantasia is something other than thought stuck in a rut.
YOU'RE stuck in a rut. i have looked at your knowledge base as well as the others here, compared it to my own, and decided that there is something strongly amiss with vyse and the whole khufu situation. i know that you know that i'm wrong with my "stupid post", but your position has been outed as unbalanced and therefore, not credible.
>There is very little genuine open-mindedness and discussion on this board. Far more prevalent is (precisely) people hammering their belief systems, systems which have many beliefs in common, such as the “Vyse forgery”, which comes close to being an article of faith.
ok, this is borderline offensive to this community, and just delusional. since you're so right and we're all so ignorant, why do you bother us then? i haven't seen a single original thought from you anywhere- just repetition of official dogma, party lines and masters-thesis assumed superiority, and then you say most everyone here is stuck in THEIR belief system. like i said, YOU don't get it, and that's why the future doesn't have your name in it. your allegiance to vyse is YOUR article of faith. i suspect that all you're good for is something like a human egyptology encyclopedia. so if we need to know what the closed religion of official egyptology says, we'll dial you up. other than that...
only thing i have left to say to you is thanks again for giving us all you got on this one. but it is not enough. i know that you think that i say that because well, i'm just not as 'right' as you are. but i also now assume that most of us playing along can see very clearly that you're very biased and that there actually ARE real questions to get to. good luck.
>> no one personalizes more than you, dude. no one.
>Actually, no, Jesse, much as people like to say that this is so (like you, just then), it’s not true. I discuss the issue when people let me. At most I give back a fraction of what’s thrown at me. I refuse to be shouted down.
wow. you admit that people say this, and then you deny all of their perceptions- valid ones, i obviously think- in favor of your own unassailably 'correct' reality, that nope- you're all good. listen to you- "it's not true".
well i and apparently others say it is.
but hey, no self examination needed, cuz you just know you're right, right?
no one is shouting you down, man- you just have an incredible insecurity/need to be right.
and to use one of your bullying, condescending phrases- 'i suggest that you' consider why you're at odds here with most posters- what makes you so certain of your rightness? no one here seems to need to believe anything more than you seem to need your own perceptions to be correct. like i said before, this vyse issue seems to be strongly identified with your personal social identity and your need to be seen as a person who 'knows the real story' above everyone else. why? you're excluding some very valid points that are being made simply because it causes you to have to admit that you might have erected a falsehood for yourself, and maybe your egyptology heroes.
>It’s a belief system when it’s what the other guy thinks. That’s part of your belief system. Another is that the “Vyse forgery” fantasia is something other than thought stuck in a rut.
YOU'RE stuck in a rut. i have looked at your knowledge base as well as the others here, compared it to my own, and decided that there is something strongly amiss with vyse and the whole khufu situation. i know that you know that i'm wrong with my "stupid post", but your position has been outed as unbalanced and therefore, not credible.
>There is very little genuine open-mindedness and discussion on this board. Far more prevalent is (precisely) people hammering their belief systems, systems which have many beliefs in common, such as the “Vyse forgery”, which comes close to being an article of faith.
ok, this is borderline offensive to this community, and just delusional. since you're so right and we're all so ignorant, why do you bother us then? i haven't seen a single original thought from you anywhere- just repetition of official dogma, party lines and masters-thesis assumed superiority, and then you say most everyone here is stuck in THEIR belief system. like i said, YOU don't get it, and that's why the future doesn't have your name in it. your allegiance to vyse is YOUR article of faith. i suspect that all you're good for is something like a human egyptology encyclopedia. so if we need to know what the closed religion of official egyptology says, we'll dial you up. other than that...
only thing i have left to say to you is thanks again for giving us all you got on this one. but it is not enough. i know that you think that i say that because well, i'm just not as 'right' as you are. but i also now assume that most of us playing along can see very clearly that you're very biased and that there actually ARE real questions to get to. good luck.
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