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Thanos5150 wrote:
> I am not saying it points to the 3rd Dynasty, but rather that
> because the 3rd Dynasty is where the 1st examples of cartouches
> appear then if the cartouches in G1 are genuine this means that
> they can be no older than the 3rd Dynasty. And in reality the
> use of the cartouche did not gain widespread acceptance until
> towards the end of the 4th Dynasty which given there are so
> many in the relieving chambers points to a time when its use
> was common, even by workers. Or forgers apparently.
>
> Before this time the royal name was enclosed in the serekh, so
> there is a clear distinction between the use of the cartouche
> and not.
One problem is that we do not really know with certainty the timeline for any dynasty before the First Intermediate Period. As far as we know, the Old Kingdom timeline should be expanded (earlier) by several millennium which would date the launch of the oblong cartouche to a period far earlier than the currently defined "3rd Dynasty". Different discussion.
> I am not saying it points to the 3rd Dynasty, but rather that
> because the 3rd Dynasty is where the 1st examples of cartouches
> appear then if the cartouches in G1 are genuine this means that
> they can be no older than the 3rd Dynasty. And in reality the
> use of the cartouche did not gain widespread acceptance until
> towards the end of the 4th Dynasty which given there are so
> many in the relieving chambers points to a time when its use
> was common, even by workers. Or forgers apparently.
>
> Before this time the royal name was enclosed in the serekh, so
> there is a clear distinction between the use of the cartouche
> and not.
One problem is that we do not really know with certainty the timeline for any dynasty before the First Intermediate Period. As far as we know, the Old Kingdom timeline should be expanded (earlier) by several millennium which would date the launch of the oblong cartouche to a period far earlier than the currently defined "3rd Dynasty". Different discussion.
