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DUNE Wrote:
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> Martin Stower Wrote:
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> > DUNE Wrote:
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> > > Martin Stower Wrote:
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> > > > You think that stone at such a joint with so many
> > > > tons upon it would not flake?
> > > >
> > > > M.
> > >
> > >
> > > Well i don't think the pressure at that point
> > > would amount to tons, don't forget the remaining
> > > length of that beam goes further down alongside
> > > that side wall, and the side wall would have been
> > > cut in the same angle as the beam.
> > > Also the beam is resting against the opposite
> > > beam to form the apex, so i would think very
> > > little pressure is being placed at that juncture.
> >
> > I find this a strange remark. I mean, there is
> > some masonry on top of this structure, isn’t there?
> >
> Sorry you lost me there.
>
> > By the way, did you notice this?
> >
> Did i notice this, yes i wrote it lol
>
> > “Although photos can not prove anything
> > definitively . . . In denying what is clearly seen
> > in those pics means you are attempting to suppress
> > the truth . . .”
> >
> > M.
>
> Of course it works both ways, but given the
> parameters we are working with, we are left with
> probabilities, given all the available evidence ,
> and i believe the evidence is damming ,therefor
> what we are looking at in those pics is plaster,
> being there is 100% evidence of plaster being
> applied in these chambers means it puts the
> probability of it being plaster very high
>
> You could hang on to the small percentage of it
> not being plaster but don't bet money on it.
>
> DPP
DUNE, I agree with your assessment of the pressure bearing down at that junction. There is minimal pressure at that junction due to the nature of the stonework reported by other investigators. The main bearing is the bottom of the block not the edge that's sticking up at that junction:
Even if there was pressure at that junction, you'd expect to see the flaking at the junction, not a distance above it.
Instead, as I've argued in previous discussions, I believe there's a plausible possibility that the whiter shade of stone we see along that junction is not due to flaking due to physical pressure bearing down by the upper masonry but rather is the result of deliberately scraping off a smudge of red paint that smeared onto the lower aspect of that roof block during an attempt to wipe up the paint run that's clearly visible along that horizontal joint. Whether that paint run originated at the cartouche, and whether the whiter tint is exposed limestone or plaster remain to be determined, but the photo clearly shows the red paint run along the joint and also the scrape marks which are above -- and not encroaching into -- that joint.
Edited 2 time(s). Last edit at 06-Oct-16 14:55 by Origyptian.
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> Martin Stower Wrote:
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> > DUNE Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> > > Martin Stower Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > > > You think that stone at such a joint with so many
> > > > tons upon it would not flake?
> > > >
> > > > M.
> > >
> > >
> > > Well i don't think the pressure at that point
> > > would amount to tons, don't forget the remaining
> > > length of that beam goes further down alongside
> > > that side wall, and the side wall would have been
> > > cut in the same angle as the beam.
> > > Also the beam is resting against the opposite
> > > beam to form the apex, so i would think very
> > > little pressure is being placed at that juncture.
> >
> > I find this a strange remark. I mean, there is
> > some masonry on top of this structure, isn’t there?
> >
> Sorry you lost me there.
>
> > By the way, did you notice this?
> >
> Did i notice this, yes i wrote it lol
>
> > “Although photos can not prove anything
> > definitively . . . In denying what is clearly seen
> > in those pics means you are attempting to suppress
> > the truth . . .”
> >
> > M.
>
> Of course it works both ways, but given the
> parameters we are working with, we are left with
> probabilities, given all the available evidence ,
> and i believe the evidence is damming ,therefor
> what we are looking at in those pics is plaster,
> being there is 100% evidence of plaster being
> applied in these chambers means it puts the
> probability of it being plaster very high
>
> You could hang on to the small percentage of it
> not being plaster but don't bet money on it.
>
> DPP
DUNE, I agree with your assessment of the pressure bearing down at that junction. There is minimal pressure at that junction due to the nature of the stonework reported by other investigators. The main bearing is the bottom of the block not the edge that's sticking up at that junction:

Even if there was pressure at that junction, you'd expect to see the flaking at the junction, not a distance above it.
Instead, as I've argued in previous discussions, I believe there's a plausible possibility that the whiter shade of stone we see along that junction is not due to flaking due to physical pressure bearing down by the upper masonry but rather is the result of deliberately scraping off a smudge of red paint that smeared onto the lower aspect of that roof block during an attempt to wipe up the paint run that's clearly visible along that horizontal joint. Whether that paint run originated at the cartouche, and whether the whiter tint is exposed limestone or plaster remain to be determined, but the photo clearly shows the red paint run along the joint and also the scrape marks which are above -- and not encroaching into -- that joint.
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Edited 2 time(s). Last edit at 06-Oct-16 14:55 by Origyptian.