DUNE Wrote:
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> Martin Stower Wrote:
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> > Jon Ellison Wrote:
> > -------------------------------------------------------
> > > Hi Colette/Dune
> > > I agree.
> > > A large portion of the underside of the upper
> > > chamber ceiling blocks seems to be coated in
> > > plaster varying from large gobs applied into and
> > > around the block joints down to a few mm to zero
> > > on the block surfaces. It looks like the rafter
> > > blocks were placed unevenly and then rendered to
> > > provide a smooth and even interior surface.
> > > The render could not have been applied to the
> > > blocks prior to their installation.
> > > The cartouche is on top of the render, indicating
> > > that it was applied in situ.
> > > It's good that Colette confirms this.
> >
> > Which, of course, she doesn’t.
> >
> > Try reading again and properly this time—and not
> > misrepresenting, for all that this requires you to
> > shake off your Creighton clique habits.
> >
> > M.
>
> Hi Martin,
>
> Yes your right in that she is not confirming the
> "in situ"application of the Khufu cartouche, but
> one might construed that its being implied by her
> statement of there being plaster on the ceiling
> blocks, ergo cartouche over plaster , to which the
> implications are obvious .
>
> As Colette went on to say .
>
> ".I later found out that I WAS CORRECT, that there
> was indeed plaster on the ceilings AND in THAT
> particular chamber.…"
>
> ___________________
>
> Me
>
> The only other possible way out of the cartouche
> being applied in situ is for the plaster to have
> been applied before the block got installed, would
> they have done that ?
>
>
> DPP

Put that in context:

‘. . . I forget which one at this very moment . . . I later found out that I WAS CORRECT, that there was indeed plaster on the ceilings AND in THAT particular chamber . . .’

Do you see the problem?

Note also this:

‘. . . I have video of my voice remarking that, “Hey, this is plaster on here…” Schoch said, “NO, it is granite.” . . .’

This was a ceiling which Schoch took to be granite. In Campbell’s Chamber, only the floor blocks are granite, which tends to suggest (to point out the obvious) that what Colette describes took place in one of the other chambers, which do have granite ceilings. Also one would not fairly infer from Colette finding plaster at one location that it was everywhere.

Certainly there is a lot of “mud” (plaster or mortar) in these chambers. As far as Campbell’s Chamber in particular is concerned, in one notable case (which I remember discussing with Colette), there is mortar on top of the characters. This is the inscription which Görlitz “sampled” and there’s a good chance that in hastily bashing with his chisel, he got some of it in his sample.

M.