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My having written this:

> When may we expect you, as a public service, sans editorial, to
> “present” your images of the journal on you site? Seeing as
> how you fault me for not doing the equivalent. What’s stopping
> you putting up your images (surely there is more than one) of
> this particular page?

Scott Creighton wrote:

> SC: Why would I expect you who likes to control all information
> to say anything different. I will publish on my own site in due
> course. But do not fret--I won't take anywhere near 20 years to
> do so. Patience will bring its own reward.

The “do not fret” line is very, very tired by now — and remember what I said? I have no obligation whatsoever to “present” this material to anyone. It’s you who’s talking as if there were some moral imperative to “present” it, so I’m challenging you to practice what you preach.

Where do you get this 20 years from? I viewed the journal in 1998. Is your arithmetic as bad as your reasoning in general? And again, as you clearly need reminding, I had no obligation then and I have no obligation now to undertake the further work and expense of putting the material online. I made no promise to do so.

You know perfectly well by now how difficult this material is. Should I quote again your various statements about the difficulty of the handwriting? Unlike you, I prefer to study such material thoroughly before stating any conclusion (let alone rushing into print with hysterical yelpings).

In due course. Care to put a figure on that? I see a need to press you on this, as I am still waiting for (a) your excuse for contradicting yourself on the drawing captioned “in Campbell’s Chamber” and (b) your evidence that R. W. H. Howard Vyse was (as you claimed) in Egypt in 1842.

Given all of the other images you’ve put online (including, we may note, this one), it surely shouldn’t take you long to put up the ones most relevant to this discussion. Should it?

M.



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