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eyeofhorus33 wrote:

> I see.
>
> I appreciate your explanation but are you able to cite a
> mainstream Egyptologist stating that Osiris "came into
> existence as a mummified non-existent being" or not?

Yes!!!

This is what it means when they say that "Osiris is a mummiform god". A "god" by definition is a pagan belief that doesn't exist. "Mummiform" means mummified. And "Osiris" is a specific non-existent belief.

There is no one today who actually believes that osiris exists or ever existed in reality. Certainly no one believes in the osiris of the PT who had sweet smelling corpse drippings. Egyptologists believe that ancient people believed this entity was real and literally was cool effervescent corpse drippings through which people needed to tip toe. They believe we are much smarter than this today which is why people don't share these ancient beliefs.

How you phrase things is not important to the meaning expressed. There are an infinite number of ways to say the same thing. Saying that "osiris is a god" simply means that osiris is the name of a specific non-existent being. The only exception is to an individual who believes Osiris is a real God. They then go on to define this god in the terms I already stated.

It seems to me that if there's an issue with this then the issue is with Egyptologists and translators. I disagree with them. I believe every word written about "osiris" was meant literally and was scientifically accurate. I believe osiris was real but was not a god, he was a neter. The problem is with translation and interpretation and Egyptological interpretation is highly inconsistent and inaccurate.

There were no ramps and no corpse drippings. Our beliefs spring from very thin evidence and pounding square pegs in round holes. It's ironic that some of the strongest evidence from when things first went wrong in the 19th century may have been manufactured.



Man fears the pyramid, time fears man.

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William Wilberforce, crook 588 Martin Stower 11-May-13 12:17
Re: William Wilberforce, crook 557 Nejc 11-May-13 16:15
Re: William Wilberforce, crook 573 Merrell 11-May-13 18:36
Re: William Wilberforce, crook 563 Scott Creighton 12-May-13 11:27
Re: William Wilberforce, crook 640 Merrell 12-May-13 22:37
Re: William Wilberforce, crook 608 Scott Creighton 13-May-13 11:03
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Re: Wilberforce, abolitionist; Vyse, 561 Scott Creighton 13-May-13 13:21
Re: Wilberforce, abolitionist; Vyse, 589 Martin Stower 13-May-13 16:14
Re: Wilberforce, abolitionist; Vyse, 471 Scott Creighton 14-May-13 09:16
Re: Wilberforce, abolitionist; Vyse, 558 Merrell 14-May-13 09:41
Re: Wilberforce, abolitionist; Vyse, 562 Scott Creighton 14-May-13 09:47
Re: Wilberforce, abolitionist; Vyse, 679 Martin Stower 15-May-13 11:18
Re: Wilberforce, abolitionist; Vyse, 685 Scott Creighton 15-May-13 12:02
Re: Wilberforce, abolitionist; Vyse, 568 Martin Stower 15-May-13 14:26
Re: Wilberforce, abolitionist; Vyse, 508 Scott Creighton 15-May-13 15:00
Re: Wilberforce, abolitionist; Vyse, 635 Martin Stower 16-May-13 09:55
Re: Wilberforce, abolitionist; Vyse, 547 Scott Creighton 16-May-13 10:04
Re: Wilberforce, abolitionist; Vyse, 548 Martin Stower 16-May-13 10:34
Re: Wilberforce, abolitionist; Vyse, 497 Scott Creighton 16-May-13 10:43
Re: Wilberforce, abolitionist; Vyse, 556 Martin Stower 16-May-13 11:00
Re: Wilberforce, abolitionist; Vyse, 622 Scott Creighton 16-May-13 11:09
Re: Wilberforce, abolitionist; Vyse, 549 Martin Stower 16-May-13 11:31
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Re: Wilberforce, abolitionist; Vyse, 518 cladking 16-May-13 15:14
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Re: What are they so afraid of? 554 cladking 16-May-13 21:40
Calling Dr. Schoch 646 Dr. Troglodyte 16-May-13 16:04
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Re: Logbook doubts 491 Merrell 16-May-13 23:25
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Re: Logbook doubts 500 MJT 17-May-13 22:31
Re: Logbook doubts 586 Merrell 18-May-13 11:23
Re: Logbook doubts 680 Scott Creighton 18-May-13 12:10
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Re: Logbook doubts 473 Scott Creighton 21-May-13 00:20
Re: Logbook doubts 564 Morten 21-May-13 09:03
Re: Logbook doubts 603 Scott Creighton 21-May-13 10:22
Re: Logbook doubts 603 Merrell 21-May-13 10:26
Re: Logbook doubts 529 Scott Creighton 21-May-13 10:35
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Re: Logbook doubts 567 Scott Creighton 21-May-13 11:04
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Re: Logbook doubts 610 Scott Creighton 21-May-13 12:04
Re: Logbook doubts 555 Morten 21-May-13 13:19
Re: Logbook doubts 665 Scott Creighton 21-May-13 13:33
Re: Logbook doubts 559 Merrell 21-May-13 14:16
Re: Logbook doubts 568 Scott Creighton 21-May-13 14:27
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Re: Logbook doubts 585 Morten 21-May-13 14:37
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Re: Logbook doubts 611 Martin Stower 21-May-13 17:13
Re: Logbook doubts 652 Audrey 22-May-13 02:20
Re: Logbook doubts 552 Morten 22-May-13 08:18
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Re: Logbook doubts 535 Audrey 24-May-13 01:32
Re: Logbook doubts 915 Martin Stower 24-May-13 13:43
Re: Logbook doubts 445 Audrey 24-May-13 01:10
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Re: Logbook doubts 595 eyeofhorus33 10-Jun-14 18:17
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Re: Logbook doubts 518 eyeofhorus33 10-Jun-14 22:15
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Re: Logbook doubts 542 Audrey 11-Jun-14 20:47
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Re: Logbook doubts 572 Audrey 12-Jun-14 21:22
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Re: Logbook doubts 528 cladking 14-Jun-14 15:25
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Re: context and customs 471 cladking 14-Jun-14 21:23
Re: Logbook doubts 549 eyeofhorus33 14-Jun-14 21:29
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Re: Logbook doubts 528 cladking 15-Jun-14 20:56
Re: Logbook doubts 535 eyeofhorus33 15-Jun-14 21:26
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Re: Language doubts 510 cladking 15-Jun-14 22:51
Re: Language doubts 510 Audrey 16-Jun-14 04:17
Re: Language doubts 556 cladking 16-Jun-14 04:51
Re: Logbook doubts 427 cladking 12-Jun-14 22:57
Re:doubts 567 Thunderbird 11-Jun-14 23:36
Re:doubts 494 Audrey 12-Jun-14 19:54
Moderator Notice 500 Hoppy 22-May-13 01:32
Re: Logbook doubts 487 Audrey 22-May-13 02:52
Re: Logbook doubts 449 Martin Stower 18-May-13 13:37
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Re: Logbook doubts 502 Martin Stower 18-May-13 14:52
Re: Logbook doubts 499 Scott Creighton 18-May-13 17:16
Re: Logbook doubts 585 Martin Stower 20-May-13 16:57
Re: Logbook doubts 511 Scott Creighton 20-May-13 17:51
Re: Logbook doubts 492 Martin Stower 20-May-13 18:25
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Re: Logbook doubts 538 Martin Stower 21-May-13 15:42
Re: Logbook doubts 515 HungryHun 17-May-13 15:20
Re: Conspired.... 515 Thunderbird 17-May-13 15:47
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Re: Conspired.... 485 Thunderbird 17-May-13 23:17
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Re: Logbook doubts 517 Thunderbird 17-May-13 22:25
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Re: Would you buy a used cartouche from this man? 499 LonelyAngel 03-Jun-13 20:59
Re: Would you buy a used cartouche from this man? 476 LonelyAngel 03-Jun-13 20:47
Re: Logbook doubts 689 Martin Stower 17-May-13 15:51
Re: Logbook doubts 520 Scott Creighton 17-May-13 20:27
Re: Logbook doubts 535 Nejc 17-May-13 22:28
Re: Logbook doubts 986 Martin Stower 18-May-13 14:43
Re: Logbook doubts 810 Scott Creighton 18-May-13 17:12
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Re: Logbook doubts 520 Scott Creighton 20-May-13 09:38
Re: Logbook doubts 484 Merrell 20-May-13 13:29
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Re: Logbook doubts 493 Merrell 20-May-13 14:55
Re: Logbook doubts 513 Scott Creighton 20-May-13 18:46
Re: Logbook doubts 552 HungryHun 20-May-13 22:02
Re: Logbook doubts 510 Thanos5150 20-May-13 23:05
Re: Logbook doubts 527 sfbey 20-May-13 23:23
Re: Logbook doubts 522 Thanos5150 20-May-13 23:35
Re: Logbook doubts 530 sfbey 21-May-13 15:41
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Re: Logbook doubts 416 Scott Creighton 20-May-13 23:38
Re: Logbook doubts 436 Merrell 21-May-13 21:34
Re: Logbook doubts 457 Audrey 22-May-13 02:34
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Re: Logbook doubts 555 Sirfiroth 22-May-13 10:42
Re: Logbook doubts 474 Merrell 22-May-13 11:43
Re: Logbook doubts 456 Sirfiroth 22-May-13 17:44
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Re: Logbook doubts 385 cladking 23-May-13 00:51
Re: Logbook doubts 399 Merrell 23-May-13 08:41
Re: Logbook doubts 436 Martin Stower 20-May-13 19:19
Re: Logbook doubts 352 Scott Creighton 20-May-13 19:35
Re: Logbook doubts 469 Martin Stower 21-May-13 17:59
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Re: exercise elementary caution about sources 424 Thunderbird 20-May-13 19:36
Re: Logbook doubts 462 Audrey 22-May-13 02:50
Re: Logbook doubts 407 Merrell 22-May-13 12:53
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Re: Logbook doubts 309 Martin Stower 24-May-13 13:56
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Re: Calling Dr. Schoch 318 Thanos5150 16-May-13 23:11
Re: Calling Dr. Schoch 303 Dr. Troglodyte 17-May-13 00:01
Re: Calling Dr. Schoch 341 Thanos5150 17-May-13 00:30
Re: Calling Dr. Schoch 309 cladking 16-May-13 21:50
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Re: William Wilberforce, crook 272 Martin Stower 13-May-13 16:53
Re: William Wilberforce, crook 317 Scott Creighton 13-May-13 17:40
Re: William Wilberforce, crook 309 Martin Stower 13-May-13 18:32
Re: William Wilberforce, crook 390 Scott Creighton 13-May-13 19:23
Moderator Caution #2 231 Hoppy 15-May-13 14:18
Re: William Wilberforce, crook 265 Martin Stower 15-May-13 14:52
Re: Audrey - How to photoshop a cartouche a la Vyse 307 Nejc 11-May-13 13:47
Re: Audrey - How to photoshop a cartouche a la Vyse 288 JonnyMcA 11-May-13 18:41
Re: Audrey - How to photoshop a cartouche a la Vyse 290 Audrey 12-May-13 07:59
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Re: Audrey - How to photoshop a cartouche a la Vyse 320 HungryHun 12-May-13 13:00
Re: Audrey - How to photoshop a cartouche a la Vyse 265 HungryHun 13-May-13 12:46
Re: Caviglia's complaint.... 272 Thunderbird 13-May-13 16:20
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Re: Audrey - How to photoshop a cartouche a la Vyse 268 Martin Stower 16-May-13 10:47
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Re: Audrey - How to photoshop a cartouche a la Vyse 270 Martin Stower 18-May-13 15:02
Re: If fake, then... what? 296 MJT 16-May-13 12:45
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