Mysteries :  The Official GrahamHancock.com forums
For serious discussion of the controversies, approaches and enigmas surrounding the origins and development of the human species and of human civilization. (NB: for more ‘out there’ posts we point you in the direction of the ‘Paranormal & Supernatural’ Message Board). 
Welcome! Log InRegister
Audrey wrote:

> Point taken. But on the other hand, just because it was done in
> recent history doesn't mean it was done 4,000 yrs ago.
>
> I criticize egyptologists because..... every subject I've
> researched, Khufu, Sothis, Sphinx, I've run across these same
> feeble explanations for their conclusions. They change names,
> insert names where there are none (dream stela), translate
> words to suit their purpose (sothis). I've grown tired of
> their inaccuracies and their mental gymnastics in making the
> translations fit into the Manetho timeline. Not enough time
> between two kings for a newly discovered king? No problem, just
> rearrange names. They had a big problem with the 4th dynasty,
> co-regents/brothers/sons, just what was going on they couldn't
> figure it out. There wasn't time for another king after the G1
> builder (if I remember correctly) they eventually concluded
> that it wasn't a new name discovered, it was just another name
> for Khufu. I wish I could remember which newly discovered
> pharaoh was given a particular position in a dynasty simply
> because it was the only place where there was room for the
> length of his reign.
>
> When I read of cuneiform, there are sentences and whole
> documents that make sense. It's amazing that anyone was able
> to decipher that language. Cuneiform is an older language, yet
> the outcome is readable, coherent. But the hieroglyph
> translations are gibberish. It's nonsense and they know it,
> so it's explained away as religious beliefs in a fantastic
> parade of bizarre deities. Better to have a bizarre religion
> than to admit of gross mistranslations.
>
> The language was reverse engineered, so to speak, from Coptic
> and Greek. You present the final outcome, how it stands now,
> with the "fact" that a king had 5 names. It sounds perfectly
> believable when you state it as...... they had 5
> titles
....period. It is presumed to be fact for the simple
> reason that an egyptologist would not state it if it were not a
> fact. But you do not present what went on behind the scenes,
> what transpired to make that "fact" come about. We presume
> that the discovery of this fact was born of meticulous study,
> indisputable written records, etc., being double and triple
> checked by the savants of the time. We also presume that these
> savants were pure of motive.
>
> But is this the truth?
>
> Regarding Chemmis ; Cheops and Suphis are mentioned once in
> extant literature. There is no history or etymology to study.
> But there is history for Chemmis, so of course the name is more
> interesting. If Cheops and Suphis were legendary, as claimed, I
> would expect to find the names in other authors. Especially
> since the Greeks, Romans, Babylonians, left such a wealth of
> information.


Egyptology has done a very remarkable job almost across the board. They took a couple of bad turns and they are too quick to extrapolate data. It's vexing that they all use different words to name the same thing and then fail to leave a trail of bread crumbs so average folk can't follow them.

There is one thing they must address to get with the times. They must stop understanding the culture in terms of a book of incantation. It is affecting their understanding of what they know. The first step is to admit they don't have a clue what this book says and that no evidence exists that it is just like the book of the dead. If they did nothing but this it would reright their boat and put us back on a course that would lead to answers.

I fear Egyptology is going to become superfluous and irrelevant if they stick the present course. They will find a world according to superstitious tomb builders who never existed.



Man fears the pyramid, time fears man.

Options: ReplyQuote


Subject Views Written By Posted
Audrey - How to photoshop a cartouche a la Vyse 1206 Dr. Troglodyte 10-May-13 20:14
William Wilberforce, crook 567 Martin Stower 11-May-13 12:17
Re: William Wilberforce, crook 535 Nejc 11-May-13 16:15
Re: William Wilberforce, crook 551 Merrell 11-May-13 18:36
Re: William Wilberforce, crook 542 Scott Creighton 12-May-13 11:27
Re: William Wilberforce, crook 618 Merrell 12-May-13 22:37
Re: William Wilberforce, crook 586 Scott Creighton 13-May-13 11:03
Wilberforce, abolitionist; Vyse, excavator 491 Merrell 13-May-13 13:11
Re: Wilberforce, abolitionist; Vyse, 537 Scott Creighton 13-May-13 13:21
Re: Wilberforce, abolitionist; Vyse, 567 Martin Stower 13-May-13 16:14
Re: Wilberforce, abolitionist; Vyse, 449 Scott Creighton 14-May-13 09:16
Re: Wilberforce, abolitionist; Vyse, 535 Merrell 14-May-13 09:41
Re: Wilberforce, abolitionist; Vyse, 538 Scott Creighton 14-May-13 09:47
Re: Wilberforce, abolitionist; Vyse, 632 Martin Stower 15-May-13 11:18
Re: Wilberforce, abolitionist; Vyse, 656 Scott Creighton 15-May-13 12:02
Re: Wilberforce, abolitionist; Vyse, 544 Martin Stower 15-May-13 14:26
Re: Wilberforce, abolitionist; Vyse, 487 Scott Creighton 15-May-13 15:00
Re: Wilberforce, abolitionist; Vyse, 614 Martin Stower 16-May-13 09:55
Re: Wilberforce, abolitionist; Vyse, 524 Scott Creighton 16-May-13 10:04
Re: Wilberforce, abolitionist; Vyse, 526 Martin Stower 16-May-13 10:34
Re: Wilberforce, abolitionist; Vyse, 475 Scott Creighton 16-May-13 10:43
Re: Wilberforce, abolitionist; Vyse, 536 Martin Stower 16-May-13 11:00
Re: Wilberforce, abolitionist; Vyse, 602 Scott Creighton 16-May-13 11:09
Re: Wilberforce, abolitionist; Vyse, 529 Martin Stower 16-May-13 11:31
Re: Wilberforce, abolitionist; Vyse, 502 Scott Creighton 16-May-13 11:36
Re: Wilberforce, abolitionist; Vyse, 497 cladking 16-May-13 15:14
Re: What are they so afraid of? 592 Thunderbird 16-May-13 15:55
Re: What are they so afraid of? 531 cladking 16-May-13 21:40
Calling Dr. Schoch 622 Dr. Troglodyte 16-May-13 16:04
Re: Calling Dr. Schoch 610 Scott Creighton 16-May-13 16:26
Logbook doubts 529 Merrell 16-May-13 21:38
Re: Logbook doubts 572 Scott Creighton 16-May-13 22:46
Re: Logbook doubts 468 Merrell 16-May-13 23:25
Re: Logbook doubts 536 Scott Creighton 17-May-13 08:00
Re: Logbook doubts 527 Merrell 17-May-13 14:30
Re: Logbook doubts 706 Scott Creighton 17-May-13 14:56
Re: Logbook doubts 531 Martin Stower 17-May-13 16:11
Re: Logbook doubts 510 Scott Creighton 17-May-13 20:53
Re: Logbook doubts 481 MJT 17-May-13 22:31
Re: Logbook doubts 564 Merrell 18-May-13 11:23
Re: Logbook doubts 625 Scott Creighton 18-May-13 12:10
Re: Logbook doubts 658 Martin Stower 20-May-13 17:54
Re: Logbook doubts 452 Scott Creighton 21-May-13 00:20
Re: Logbook doubts 542 Morten 21-May-13 09:03
Re: Logbook doubts 581 Scott Creighton 21-May-13 10:22
Re: Logbook doubts 581 Merrell 21-May-13 10:26
Re: Logbook doubts 508 Scott Creighton 21-May-13 10:35
Re: Logbook doubts 539 Merrell 21-May-13 13:46
Re: Logbook doubts 456 Morten 21-May-13 10:40
Re: Logbook doubts 546 Scott Creighton 21-May-13 11:04
Re: Logbook doubts 553 Morten 21-May-13 11:29
Re: Logbook doubts 589 Scott Creighton 21-May-13 12:04
Re: Logbook doubts 535 Morten 21-May-13 13:19
Re: Logbook doubts 646 Scott Creighton 21-May-13 13:33
Re: Logbook doubts 538 Merrell 21-May-13 14:16
Re: Logbook doubts 546 Scott Creighton 21-May-13 14:27
Re: Logbook doubts 595 Merrell 21-May-13 23:48
Re: Logbook doubts 564 Morten 21-May-13 14:37
Re: Logbook doubts 531 Scott Creighton 21-May-13 14:54
Re: Logbook doubts 562 Morten 22-May-13 10:51
Re: Logbook doubts 590 Martin Stower 21-May-13 17:13
Re: Logbook doubts 561 Audrey 22-May-13 02:20
Re: Logbook doubts 531 Morten 22-May-13 08:18
Re: Logbook doubts 497 Martin Stower 22-May-13 15:02
Re: Logbook doubts 515 Audrey 24-May-13 01:32
Re: Logbook doubts 786 Martin Stower 24-May-13 13:43
Re: Logbook doubts 426 Audrey 24-May-13 01:10
Re: Logbook doubts 451 Scott Creighton 10-Jun-14 13:15
Re: Logbook doubts 570 eyeofhorus33 10-Jun-14 18:17
Re: Logbook doubts 557 Scott Creighton 10-Jun-14 22:01
Re: Logbook doubts 497 eyeofhorus33 10-Jun-14 22:15
Re:Khufu....Hyksos? 528 Thunderbird 11-Jun-14 01:36
Re: Logbook doubts 519 Audrey 11-Jun-14 20:47
Re: Logbook doubts 725 eyeofhorus33 11-Jun-14 22:18
Re: Logbook doubts 553 Audrey 12-Jun-14 21:22
Re: Logbook doubts 492 eyeofhorus33 12-Jun-14 22:20
Re: Logbook doubts 492 cladking 13-Jun-14 00:24
Re: Logbook doubts 477 eyeofhorus33 13-Jun-14 22:53
Re: Logbook doubts 488 cladking 13-Jun-14 23:23
Re: Logbook doubts 493 eyeofhorus33 13-Jun-14 23:48
Re: Logbook doubts 491 cladking 14-Jun-14 00:17
Re: Logbook doubts 509 Audrey 14-Jun-14 02:17
Re: Logbook doubts 568 eyeofhorus33 14-Jun-14 11:44
Re: Logbook doubts 508 cladking 14-Jun-14 15:25
context and customs 453 Audrey 14-Jun-14 19:25
Re: context and customs 453 cladking 14-Jun-14 21:23
Re: Logbook doubts 523 eyeofhorus33 14-Jun-14 21:29
Re: Logbook doubts 503 cladking 14-Jun-14 22:07
Re: Logbook doubts 497 eyeofhorus33 14-Jun-14 23:04
Re: Logbook doubts 530 cladking 15-Jun-14 00:29
Re: Logbook doubts 519 eyeofhorus33 15-Jun-14 18:35
Re: Logbook doubts 507 cladking 15-Jun-14 20:56
Re: Logbook doubts 518 eyeofhorus33 15-Jun-14 21:26
Language doubts 473 cladking 15-Jun-14 21:48
Re: Language doubts 480 eyeofhorus33 15-Jun-14 22:05
Re: Language doubts 491 cladking 15-Jun-14 22:51
Re: Language doubts 490 Audrey 16-Jun-14 04:17
Re: Language doubts 535 cladking 16-Jun-14 04:51
Re: Logbook doubts 407 cladking 12-Jun-14 22:57
Re:doubts 517 Thunderbird 11-Jun-14 23:36
Re:doubts 475 Audrey 12-Jun-14 19:54
Moderator Notice 479 Hoppy 22-May-13 01:32
Re: Logbook doubts 469 Audrey 22-May-13 02:52
Re: Logbook doubts 429 Martin Stower 18-May-13 13:37
Re: Logbook doubts 500 Scott Creighton 18-May-13 14:01
Re: Logbook doubts 482 Martin Stower 18-May-13 14:52
Re: Logbook doubts 480 Scott Creighton 18-May-13 17:16
Re: Logbook doubts 565 Martin Stower 20-May-13 16:57
Re: Logbook doubts 494 Scott Creighton 20-May-13 17:51
Re: Logbook doubts 473 Martin Stower 20-May-13 18:25
Re: Logbook doubts 353 Scott Creighton 20-May-13 18:49
Re: Logbook doubts 517 Martin Stower 21-May-13 15:42
Re: Logbook doubts 495 HungryHun 17-May-13 15:20
Re: Conspired.... 494 Thunderbird 17-May-13 15:47
Re: Conspired.... 491 HungryHun 17-May-13 16:04
Re: Conspired.... 466 Thunderbird 17-May-13 23:17
Re: Conspired....inspire d by money 530 Ratcho 03-Jun-13 05:57
Re: Logbook doubts 436 Martin Stower 17-May-13 16:23
Re: Logbook doubts 497 HungryHun 17-May-13 16:28
Re: Logbook doubts 498 Thunderbird 17-May-13 22:25
Would you buy a used cartouche from this man? 470 LonelyAngel 29-May-13 14:41
Re: Would you buy a used cartouche from this man? 455 Nejc 29-May-13 23:23
Re: Would you buy a used cartouche from this man? 467 Merrell 30-May-13 09:25
Re: Would you buy a used cartouche from this man? 523 Martin Stower 30-May-13 12:48
Re: Would you buy a used cartouche from this man? 505 WINDINWATERS 30-May-13 14:40
Re: Would you buy a used cartouche from this man? 401 Martin Stower 31-May-13 18:00
Re: Would you buy a used cartouche from this man? 463 WINDINWATERS 31-May-13 21:47
Re: Would you buy a used cartouche from this man? 452 LonelyAngel 30-May-13 17:43
Re: Would you buy a used cartouche from this man? 450 Martin Stower 31-May-13 18:24
Re: Would you buy a used cartouche from this man? 505 cladking 01-Jun-13 03:28
Re: Would you buy a used cartouche from this man? 491 Merrell 01-Jun-13 11:02
Re: Would you buy a used cartouche from this man? 479 LonelyAngel 03-Jun-13 20:59
Re: Would you buy a used cartouche from this man? 457 LonelyAngel 03-Jun-13 20:47
Re: Logbook doubts 667 Martin Stower 17-May-13 15:51
Re: Logbook doubts 499 Scott Creighton 17-May-13 20:27
Re: Logbook doubts 514 Nejc 17-May-13 22:28
Re: Logbook doubts 950 Martin Stower 18-May-13 14:43
Re: Logbook doubts 779 Scott Creighton 18-May-13 17:12
Re: Logbook doubts 565 Merrell 19-May-13 16:43
Re: Logbook doubts 502 Scott Creighton 20-May-13 09:38
Re: Logbook doubts 462 Merrell 20-May-13 13:29
Re: Logbook doubts 586 Scott Creighton 20-May-13 13:58
Re: Logbook doubts 473 Merrell 20-May-13 14:55
Re: Logbook doubts 494 Scott Creighton 20-May-13 18:46
Re: Logbook doubts 532 HungryHun 20-May-13 22:02
Re: Logbook doubts 489 Thanos5150 20-May-13 23:05
Re: Logbook doubts 508 sfbey 20-May-13 23:23
Re: Logbook doubts 500 Thanos5150 20-May-13 23:35
Re: Logbook doubts 510 sfbey 21-May-13 15:41
Moghrah 513 Merrell 21-May-13 18:09
Re: Logbook doubts 396 Scott Creighton 20-May-13 23:38
Re: Logbook doubts 418 Merrell 21-May-13 21:34
Re: Logbook doubts 433 Audrey 22-May-13 02:34
Re: Logbook doubts 475 Merrell 21-May-13 21:58
Re: Logbook doubts 497 Sirfiroth 22-May-13 10:42
Re: Logbook doubts 456 Merrell 22-May-13 11:43
Re: Logbook doubts 438 Sirfiroth 22-May-13 17:44
Re: Logbook doubts 375 Nejc 22-May-13 23:18
Re: Logbook doubts 365 cladking 23-May-13 00:51
Re: Logbook doubts 381 Merrell 23-May-13 08:41
Re: Logbook doubts 416 Martin Stower 20-May-13 19:19
Re: Logbook doubts 332 Scott Creighton 20-May-13 19:35
Re: Logbook doubts 451 Martin Stower 21-May-13 17:59
Moderator Warning 560 JonnyMcA 21-May-13 20:12
Moderator Warning 437 JonnyMcA 21-May-13 20:11
Re: exercise elementary caution about sources 404 Thunderbird 20-May-13 19:36
Re: Logbook doubts 443 Audrey 22-May-13 02:50
Re: Logbook doubts 386 Merrell 22-May-13 12:53
Re: Logbook doubts 359 Audrey 24-May-13 01:48
Moderator Caution 322 Hoppy 22-May-13 12:55
Re: Logbook doubts 325 Martin Stower 22-May-13 16:06
Re: Logbook doubts 286 Audrey 24-May-13 01:41
Re: Logbook doubts 289 Martin Stower 24-May-13 13:56
Re: Logbook doubts 273 Thunderbird 17-May-13 22:40
Re: Calling Dr. Schoch 352 Thanos5150 16-May-13 19:41
Re: Calling Dr. Schoch 352 Dr. Troglodyte 16-May-13 21:56
Re: Calling Dr. Schoch 298 Thanos5150 16-May-13 23:11
Re: Calling Dr. Schoch 285 Dr. Troglodyte 17-May-13 00:01
Re: Calling Dr. Schoch 321 Thanos5150 17-May-13 00:30
Re: Calling Dr. Schoch 288 cladking 16-May-13 21:50
Moderator Caution 330 Hoppy 15-May-13 14:09
Re: William Wilberforce, crook 254 Martin Stower 13-May-13 16:53
Re: William Wilberforce, crook 298 Scott Creighton 13-May-13 17:40
Re: William Wilberforce, crook 288 Martin Stower 13-May-13 18:32
Re: William Wilberforce, crook 341 Scott Creighton 13-May-13 19:23
Moderator Caution #2 212 Hoppy 15-May-13 14:18
Re: William Wilberforce, crook 244 Martin Stower 15-May-13 14:52
Re: Audrey - How to photoshop a cartouche a la Vyse 287 Nejc 11-May-13 13:47
Re: Audrey - How to photoshop a cartouche a la Vyse 266 JonnyMcA 11-May-13 18:41
Re: Audrey - How to photoshop a cartouche a la Vyse 271 Audrey 12-May-13 07:59
Re: Audrey - How to photoshop a cartouche a la Vyse 245 JonnyMcA 12-May-13 09:58
Re: Audrey - How to photoshop a cartouche a la Vyse 300 HungryHun 12-May-13 13:00
Re: Audrey - How to photoshop a cartouche a la Vyse 245 HungryHun 13-May-13 12:46
Re: Caviglia's complaint.... 254 Thunderbird 13-May-13 16:20
Re: Audrey - How to photoshop a cartouche a la Vyse 251 HungryHun 13-May-13 19:36
Re: Audrey - How to photoshop a cartouche a la Vyse 248 Martin Stower 15-May-13 15:04
Re: Audrey - How to photoshop a cartouche a la Vyse 236 HungryHun 16-May-13 10:03
Re: Audrey - How to photoshop a cartouche a la Vyse 251 Martin Stower 16-May-13 10:47
Re: Audrey - How to photoshop a cartouche a la Vyse 226 Merrell 16-May-13 16:33
Re: Audrey - How to photoshop a cartouche a la Vyse 250 Martin Stower 18-May-13 15:02
Re: If fake, then... what? 278 MJT 16-May-13 12:45
More Vyse wickedness 265 Martin Stower 18-May-13 15:14
Re: More Vyse wickedness 347 Scott Creighton 19-May-13 09:01
Re: More Vyse wickedness 354 Martin Stower 20-May-13 16:44
Re: More Vyse wickedness 372 Scott Creighton 20-May-13 17:56
Re: More Vyse wickedness 398 jamesglory 21-May-13 10:26
Re: More Vyse wickedness 370 Audrey 22-May-13 02:42
Moderator Caution 297 Hoppy 20-May-13 17:57
Re: Audrey - How to photoshop a cartouche a la Vyse 288 Audrey 14-Jun-14 21:11
Re: Audrey - How to photoshop a cartouche a la Vyse 255 cladking 14-Jun-14 21:49
Re: Audrey - How to photoshop a cartouche a la Vyse 262 Scott Creighton 15-Jun-14 00:13
Re: Audrey - How to photoshop a cartouche a la Vyse 292 eyeofhorus33 15-Jun-14 00:58
Re: Audrey - How to photoshop a cartouche a la Vyse 266 cladking 15-Jun-14 01:12
Re: Audrey - How to photoshop a cartouche a la Vyse 250 Sirfiroth 15-Jun-14 19:09
Re: Audrey - How to photoshop a cartouche a la Vyse 290 cladking 15-Jun-14 20:40
Re: Audrey - How to photoshop a cartouche a la Vyse 278 Audrey 16-Jun-14 03:32
Re: Audrey - How to photoshop a cartouche a la Vyse 385 eyeofhorus33 16-Jun-14 18:38
Re: Audrey - How to photoshop a cartouche a la Vyse 273 Audrey 23-Jun-14 03:15
Australian Funeral 309 molder 15-Jun-14 05:03
Re: Australian Funeral 426 Audrey 16-Jun-14 03:56
Re: Australian Funeral 247 molder 16-Jun-14 12:06
Re: Australian Funeral 258 cladking 16-Jun-14 16:50
Re: Australian Funeral 234 Audrey 23-Jun-14 01:58
Re: Australian Funeral 277 molder 19-Jun-14 07:25
Re: Australian Funeral 251 molder 20-Jun-14 10:28
Re: Australian Funeral/North American Funeral 239 molder 22-Jun-14 06:53


Sorry, only registered users may post in this forum.