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Audrey wrote:

> Point taken. But on the other hand, just because it was done in
> recent history doesn't mean it was done 4,000 yrs ago.
>
> I criticize egyptologists because..... every subject I've
> researched, Khufu, Sothis, Sphinx, I've run across these same
> feeble explanations for their conclusions. They change names,
> insert names where there are none (dream stela), translate
> words to suit their purpose (sothis). I've grown tired of
> their inaccuracies and their mental gymnastics in making the
> translations fit into the Manetho timeline. Not enough time
> between two kings for a newly discovered king? No problem, just
> rearrange names. They had a big problem with the 4th dynasty,
> co-regents/brothers/sons, just what was going on they couldn't
> figure it out. There wasn't time for another king after the G1
> builder (if I remember correctly) they eventually concluded
> that it wasn't a new name discovered, it was just another name
> for Khufu. I wish I could remember which newly discovered
> pharaoh was given a particular position in a dynasty simply
> because it was the only place where there was room for the
> length of his reign.
>
> When I read of cuneiform, there are sentences and whole
> documents that make sense. It's amazing that anyone was able
> to decipher that language. Cuneiform is an older language, yet
> the outcome is readable, coherent. But the hieroglyph
> translations are gibberish. It's nonsense and they know it,
> so it's explained away as religious beliefs in a fantastic
> parade of bizarre deities. Better to have a bizarre religion
> than to admit of gross mistranslations.
>
> The language was reverse engineered, so to speak, from Coptic
> and Greek. You present the final outcome, how it stands now,
> with the "fact" that a king had 5 names. It sounds perfectly
> believable when you state it as...... they had 5
> titles
....period. It is presumed to be fact for the simple
> reason that an egyptologist would not state it if it were not a
> fact. But you do not present what went on behind the scenes,
> what transpired to make that "fact" come about. We presume
> that the discovery of this fact was born of meticulous study,
> indisputable written records, etc., being double and triple
> checked by the savants of the time. We also presume that these
> savants were pure of motive.
>
> But is this the truth?
>
> Regarding Chemmis ; Cheops and Suphis are mentioned once in
> extant literature. There is no history or etymology to study.
> But there is history for Chemmis, so of course the name is more
> interesting. If Cheops and Suphis were legendary, as claimed, I
> would expect to find the names in other authors. Especially
> since the Greeks, Romans, Babylonians, left such a wealth of
> information.


Egyptology has done a very remarkable job almost across the board. They took a couple of bad turns and they are too quick to extrapolate data. It's vexing that they all use different words to name the same thing and then fail to leave a trail of bread crumbs so average folk can't follow them.

There is one thing they must address to get with the times. They must stop understanding the culture in terms of a book of incantation. It is affecting their understanding of what they know. The first step is to admit they don't have a clue what this book says and that no evidence exists that it is just like the book of the dead. If they did nothing but this it would reright their boat and put us back on a course that would lead to answers.

I fear Egyptology is going to become superfluous and irrelevant if they stick the present course. They will find a world according to superstitious tomb builders who never existed.



Man fears the pyramid, time fears man.

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Audrey - How to photoshop a cartouche a la Vyse 1247 Dr. Troglodyte 10-May-13 20:14
William Wilberforce, crook 588 Martin Stower 11-May-13 12:17
Re: William Wilberforce, crook 557 Nejc 11-May-13 16:15
Re: William Wilberforce, crook 573 Merrell 11-May-13 18:36
Re: William Wilberforce, crook 563 Scott Creighton 12-May-13 11:27
Re: William Wilberforce, crook 641 Merrell 12-May-13 22:37
Re: William Wilberforce, crook 608 Scott Creighton 13-May-13 11:03
Wilberforce, abolitionist; Vyse, excavator 513 Merrell 13-May-13 13:11
Re: Wilberforce, abolitionist; Vyse, 561 Scott Creighton 13-May-13 13:21
Re: Wilberforce, abolitionist; Vyse, 589 Martin Stower 13-May-13 16:14
Re: Wilberforce, abolitionist; Vyse, 471 Scott Creighton 14-May-13 09:16
Re: Wilberforce, abolitionist; Vyse, 558 Merrell 14-May-13 09:41
Re: Wilberforce, abolitionist; Vyse, 562 Scott Creighton 14-May-13 09:47
Re: Wilberforce, abolitionist; Vyse, 679 Martin Stower 15-May-13 11:18
Re: Wilberforce, abolitionist; Vyse, 686 Scott Creighton 15-May-13 12:02
Re: Wilberforce, abolitionist; Vyse, 568 Martin Stower 15-May-13 14:26
Re: Wilberforce, abolitionist; Vyse, 508 Scott Creighton 15-May-13 15:00
Re: Wilberforce, abolitionist; Vyse, 635 Martin Stower 16-May-13 09:55
Re: Wilberforce, abolitionist; Vyse, 547 Scott Creighton 16-May-13 10:04
Re: Wilberforce, abolitionist; Vyse, 548 Martin Stower 16-May-13 10:34
Re: Wilberforce, abolitionist; Vyse, 498 Scott Creighton 16-May-13 10:43
Re: Wilberforce, abolitionist; Vyse, 557 Martin Stower 16-May-13 11:00
Re: Wilberforce, abolitionist; Vyse, 623 Scott Creighton 16-May-13 11:09
Re: Wilberforce, abolitionist; Vyse, 549 Martin Stower 16-May-13 11:31
Re: Wilberforce, abolitionist; Vyse, 521 Scott Creighton 16-May-13 11:36
Re: Wilberforce, abolitionist; Vyse, 519 cladking 16-May-13 15:14
Re: What are they so afraid of? 613 Thunderbird 16-May-13 15:55
Re: What are they so afraid of? 554 cladking 16-May-13 21:40
Calling Dr. Schoch 646 Dr. Troglodyte 16-May-13 16:04
Re: Calling Dr. Schoch 643 Scott Creighton 16-May-13 16:26
Logbook doubts 552 Merrell 16-May-13 21:38
Re: Logbook doubts 595 Scott Creighton 16-May-13 22:46
Re: Logbook doubts 491 Merrell 16-May-13 23:25
Re: Logbook doubts 558 Scott Creighton 17-May-13 08:00
Re: Logbook doubts 551 Merrell 17-May-13 14:30
Re: Logbook doubts 784 Scott Creighton 17-May-13 14:56
Re: Logbook doubts 553 Martin Stower 17-May-13 16:11
Re: Logbook doubts 532 Scott Creighton 17-May-13 20:53
Re: Logbook doubts 500 MJT 17-May-13 22:31
Re: Logbook doubts 586 Merrell 18-May-13 11:23
Re: Logbook doubts 680 Scott Creighton 18-May-13 12:10
Re: Logbook doubts 684 Martin Stower 20-May-13 17:54
Re: Logbook doubts 474 Scott Creighton 21-May-13 00:20
Re: Logbook doubts 564 Morten 21-May-13 09:03
Re: Logbook doubts 603 Scott Creighton 21-May-13 10:22
Re: Logbook doubts 603 Merrell 21-May-13 10:26
Re: Logbook doubts 529 Scott Creighton 21-May-13 10:35
Re: Logbook doubts 560 Merrell 21-May-13 13:46
Re: Logbook doubts 479 Morten 21-May-13 10:40
Re: Logbook doubts 567 Scott Creighton 21-May-13 11:04
Re: Logbook doubts 574 Morten 21-May-13 11:29
Re: Logbook doubts 610 Scott Creighton 21-May-13 12:04
Re: Logbook doubts 555 Morten 21-May-13 13:19
Re: Logbook doubts 666 Scott Creighton 21-May-13 13:33
Re: Logbook doubts 559 Merrell 21-May-13 14:16
Re: Logbook doubts 568 Scott Creighton 21-May-13 14:27
Re: Logbook doubts 686 Merrell 21-May-13 23:48
Re: Logbook doubts 586 Morten 21-May-13 14:37
Re: Logbook doubts 551 Scott Creighton 21-May-13 14:54
Re: Logbook doubts 584 Morten 22-May-13 10:51
Re: Logbook doubts 611 Martin Stower 21-May-13 17:13
Re: Logbook doubts 654 Audrey 22-May-13 02:20
Re: Logbook doubts 552 Morten 22-May-13 08:18
Re: Logbook doubts 521 Martin Stower 22-May-13 15:02
Re: Logbook doubts 535 Audrey 24-May-13 01:32
Re: Logbook doubts 916 Martin Stower 24-May-13 13:43
Re: Logbook doubts 445 Audrey 24-May-13 01:10
Re: Logbook doubts 471 Scott Creighton 10-Jun-14 13:15
Re: Logbook doubts 595 eyeofhorus33 10-Jun-14 18:17
Re: Logbook doubts 585 Scott Creighton 10-Jun-14 22:01
Re: Logbook doubts 519 eyeofhorus33 10-Jun-14 22:15
Re:Khufu....Hyksos? 548 Thunderbird 11-Jun-14 01:36
Re: Logbook doubts 542 Audrey 11-Jun-14 20:47
Re: Logbook doubts 849 eyeofhorus33 11-Jun-14 22:18
Re: Logbook doubts 572 Audrey 12-Jun-14 21:22
Re: Logbook doubts 512 eyeofhorus33 12-Jun-14 22:20
Re: Logbook doubts 513 cladking 13-Jun-14 00:24
Re: Logbook doubts 496 eyeofhorus33 13-Jun-14 22:53
Re: Logbook doubts 509 cladking 13-Jun-14 23:23
Re: Logbook doubts 512 eyeofhorus33 13-Jun-14 23:48
Re: Logbook doubts 509 cladking 14-Jun-14 00:17
Re: Logbook doubts 526 Audrey 14-Jun-14 02:17
Re: Logbook doubts 588 eyeofhorus33 14-Jun-14 11:44
Re: Logbook doubts 528 cladking 14-Jun-14 15:25
context and customs 486 Audrey 14-Jun-14 19:25
Re: context and customs 471 cladking 14-Jun-14 21:23
Re: Logbook doubts 549 eyeofhorus33 14-Jun-14 21:29
Re: Logbook doubts 523 cladking 14-Jun-14 22:07
Re: Logbook doubts 519 eyeofhorus33 14-Jun-14 23:04
Re: Logbook doubts 550 cladking 15-Jun-14 00:29
Re: Logbook doubts 540 eyeofhorus33 15-Jun-14 18:35
Re: Logbook doubts 528 cladking 15-Jun-14 20:56
Re: Logbook doubts 536 eyeofhorus33 15-Jun-14 21:26
Language doubts 491 cladking 15-Jun-14 21:48
Re: Language doubts 500 eyeofhorus33 15-Jun-14 22:05
Re: Language doubts 510 cladking 15-Jun-14 22:51
Re: Language doubts 511 Audrey 16-Jun-14 04:17
Re: Language doubts 556 cladking 16-Jun-14 04:51
Re: Logbook doubts 427 cladking 12-Jun-14 22:57
Re:doubts 568 Thunderbird 11-Jun-14 23:36
Re:doubts 494 Audrey 12-Jun-14 19:54
Moderator Notice 500 Hoppy 22-May-13 01:32
Re: Logbook doubts 488 Audrey 22-May-13 02:52
Re: Logbook doubts 449 Martin Stower 18-May-13 13:37
Re: Logbook doubts 518 Scott Creighton 18-May-13 14:01
Re: Logbook doubts 502 Martin Stower 18-May-13 14:52
Re: Logbook doubts 499 Scott Creighton 18-May-13 17:16
Re: Logbook doubts 585 Martin Stower 20-May-13 16:57
Re: Logbook doubts 511 Scott Creighton 20-May-13 17:51
Re: Logbook doubts 492 Martin Stower 20-May-13 18:25
Re: Logbook doubts 371 Scott Creighton 20-May-13 18:49
Re: Logbook doubts 538 Martin Stower 21-May-13 15:42
Re: Logbook doubts 515 HungryHun 17-May-13 15:20
Re: Conspired.... 515 Thunderbird 17-May-13 15:47
Re: Conspired.... 509 HungryHun 17-May-13 16:04
Re: Conspired.... 486 Thunderbird 17-May-13 23:17
Re: Conspired....inspire d by money 548 Ratcho 03-Jun-13 05:57
Re: Logbook doubts 456 Martin Stower 17-May-13 16:23
Re: Logbook doubts 518 HungryHun 17-May-13 16:28
Re: Logbook doubts 517 Thunderbird 17-May-13 22:25
Would you buy a used cartouche from this man? 490 LonelyAngel 29-May-13 14:41
Re: Would you buy a used cartouche from this man? 474 Nejc 29-May-13 23:23
Re: Would you buy a used cartouche from this man? 487 Merrell 30-May-13 09:25
Re: Would you buy a used cartouche from this man? 591 Martin Stower 30-May-13 12:48
Re: Would you buy a used cartouche from this man? 526 WINDINWATERS 30-May-13 14:40
Re: Would you buy a used cartouche from this man? 420 Martin Stower 31-May-13 18:00
Re: Would you buy a used cartouche from this man? 482 WINDINWATERS 31-May-13 21:47
Re: Would you buy a used cartouche from this man? 471 LonelyAngel 30-May-13 17:43
Re: Would you buy a used cartouche from this man? 471 Martin Stower 31-May-13 18:24
Re: Would you buy a used cartouche from this man? 524 cladking 01-Jun-13 03:28
Re: Would you buy a used cartouche from this man? 512 Merrell 01-Jun-13 11:02
Re: Would you buy a used cartouche from this man? 499 LonelyAngel 03-Jun-13 20:59
Re: Would you buy a used cartouche from this man? 476 LonelyAngel 03-Jun-13 20:47
Re: Logbook doubts 689 Martin Stower 17-May-13 15:51
Re: Logbook doubts 520 Scott Creighton 17-May-13 20:27
Re: Logbook doubts 535 Nejc 17-May-13 22:28
Re: Logbook doubts 988 Martin Stower 18-May-13 14:43
Re: Logbook doubts 810 Scott Creighton 18-May-13 17:12
Re: Logbook doubts 586 Merrell 19-May-13 16:43
Re: Logbook doubts 520 Scott Creighton 20-May-13 09:38
Re: Logbook doubts 484 Merrell 20-May-13 13:29
Re: Logbook doubts 617 Scott Creighton 20-May-13 13:58
Re: Logbook doubts 493 Merrell 20-May-13 14:55
Re: Logbook doubts 514 Scott Creighton 20-May-13 18:46
Re: Logbook doubts 552 HungryHun 20-May-13 22:02
Re: Logbook doubts 510 Thanos5150 20-May-13 23:05
Re: Logbook doubts 527 sfbey 20-May-13 23:23
Re: Logbook doubts 522 Thanos5150 20-May-13 23:35
Re: Logbook doubts 530 sfbey 21-May-13 15:41
Moghrah 533 Merrell 21-May-13 18:09
Re: Logbook doubts 416 Scott Creighton 20-May-13 23:38
Re: Logbook doubts 436 Merrell 21-May-13 21:34
Re: Logbook doubts 457 Audrey 22-May-13 02:34
Re: Logbook doubts 496 Merrell 21-May-13 21:58
Re: Logbook doubts 555 Sirfiroth 22-May-13 10:42
Re: Logbook doubts 474 Merrell 22-May-13 11:43
Re: Logbook doubts 456 Sirfiroth 22-May-13 17:44
Re: Logbook doubts 407 Nejc 22-May-13 23:18
Re: Logbook doubts 385 cladking 23-May-13 00:51
Re: Logbook doubts 399 Merrell 23-May-13 08:41
Re: Logbook doubts 436 Martin Stower 20-May-13 19:19
Re: Logbook doubts 352 Scott Creighton 20-May-13 19:35
Re: Logbook doubts 469 Martin Stower 21-May-13 17:59
Moderator Warning 672 JonnyMcA 21-May-13 20:12
Moderator Warning 455 JonnyMcA 21-May-13 20:11
Re: exercise elementary caution about sources 425 Thunderbird 20-May-13 19:36
Re: Logbook doubts 463 Audrey 22-May-13 02:50
Re: Logbook doubts 407 Merrell 22-May-13 12:53
Re: Logbook doubts 378 Audrey 24-May-13 01:48
Moderator Caution 342 Hoppy 22-May-13 12:55
Re: Logbook doubts 345 Martin Stower 22-May-13 16:06
Re: Logbook doubts 304 Audrey 24-May-13 01:41
Re: Logbook doubts 309 Martin Stower 24-May-13 13:56
Re: Logbook doubts 295 Thunderbird 17-May-13 22:40
Re: Calling Dr. Schoch 373 Thanos5150 16-May-13 19:41
Re: Calling Dr. Schoch 376 Dr. Troglodyte 16-May-13 21:56
Re: Calling Dr. Schoch 318 Thanos5150 16-May-13 23:11
Re: Calling Dr. Schoch 303 Dr. Troglodyte 17-May-13 00:01
Re: Calling Dr. Schoch 341 Thanos5150 17-May-13 00:30
Re: Calling Dr. Schoch 309 cladking 16-May-13 21:50
Moderator Caution 349 Hoppy 15-May-13 14:09
Re: William Wilberforce, crook 272 Martin Stower 13-May-13 16:53
Re: William Wilberforce, crook 317 Scott Creighton 13-May-13 17:40
Re: William Wilberforce, crook 309 Martin Stower 13-May-13 18:32
Re: William Wilberforce, crook 390 Scott Creighton 13-May-13 19:23
Moderator Caution #2 231 Hoppy 15-May-13 14:18
Re: William Wilberforce, crook 265 Martin Stower 15-May-13 14:52
Re: Audrey - How to photoshop a cartouche a la Vyse 307 Nejc 11-May-13 13:47
Re: Audrey - How to photoshop a cartouche a la Vyse 288 JonnyMcA 11-May-13 18:41
Re: Audrey - How to photoshop a cartouche a la Vyse 290 Audrey 12-May-13 07:59
Re: Audrey - How to photoshop a cartouche a la Vyse 264 JonnyMcA 12-May-13 09:58
Re: Audrey - How to photoshop a cartouche a la Vyse 320 HungryHun 12-May-13 13:00
Re: Audrey - How to photoshop a cartouche a la Vyse 265 HungryHun 13-May-13 12:46
Re: Caviglia's complaint.... 272 Thunderbird 13-May-13 16:20
Re: Audrey - How to photoshop a cartouche a la Vyse 270 HungryHun 13-May-13 19:36
Re: Audrey - How to photoshop a cartouche a la Vyse 266 Martin Stower 15-May-13 15:04
Re: Audrey - How to photoshop a cartouche a la Vyse 255 HungryHun 16-May-13 10:03
Re: Audrey - How to photoshop a cartouche a la Vyse 269 Martin Stower 16-May-13 10:47
Re: Audrey - How to photoshop a cartouche a la Vyse 247 Merrell 16-May-13 16:33
Re: Audrey - How to photoshop a cartouche a la Vyse 270 Martin Stower 18-May-13 15:02
Re: If fake, then... what? 296 MJT 16-May-13 12:45
More Vyse wickedness 286 Martin Stower 18-May-13 15:14
Re: More Vyse wickedness 366 Scott Creighton 19-May-13 09:01
Re: More Vyse wickedness 374 Martin Stower 20-May-13 16:44
Re: More Vyse wickedness 453 Scott Creighton 20-May-13 17:56
Re: More Vyse wickedness 420 jamesglory 21-May-13 10:26
Re: More Vyse wickedness 389 Audrey 22-May-13 02:42
Moderator Caution 316 Hoppy 20-May-13 17:57
Re: Audrey - How to photoshop a cartouche a la Vyse 309 Audrey 14-Jun-14 21:11
Re: Audrey - How to photoshop a cartouche a la Vyse 275 cladking 14-Jun-14 21:49
Re: Audrey - How to photoshop a cartouche a la Vyse 284 Scott Creighton 15-Jun-14 00:13
Re: Audrey - How to photoshop a cartouche a la Vyse 312 eyeofhorus33 15-Jun-14 00:58
Re: Audrey - How to photoshop a cartouche a la Vyse 286 cladking 15-Jun-14 01:12
Re: Audrey - How to photoshop a cartouche a la Vyse 273 Sirfiroth 15-Jun-14 19:09
Re: Audrey - How to photoshop a cartouche a la Vyse 311 cladking 15-Jun-14 20:40
Re: Audrey - How to photoshop a cartouche a la Vyse 296 Audrey 16-Jun-14 03:32
Re: Audrey - How to photoshop a cartouche a la Vyse 406 eyeofhorus33 16-Jun-14 18:38
Re: Audrey - How to photoshop a cartouche a la Vyse 291 Audrey 23-Jun-14 03:15
Australian Funeral 328 molder 15-Jun-14 05:03
Re: Australian Funeral 447 Audrey 16-Jun-14 03:56
Re: Australian Funeral 266 molder 16-Jun-14 12:06
Re: Australian Funeral 276 cladking 16-Jun-14 16:50
Re: Australian Funeral 256 Audrey 23-Jun-14 01:58
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