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Audrey wrote:

> Point taken. But on the other hand, just because it was done in
> recent history doesn't mean it was done 4,000 yrs ago.
> I criticize egyptologists because..... every subject I've
> researched, Khufu, Sothis, Sphinx, I've run across these same
> feeble explanations for their conclusions. They change names,
> insert names where there are none (dream stela), translate
> words to suit their purpose (sothis). I've grown tired of
> their inaccuracies and their mental gymnastics in making the
> translations fit into the Manetho timeline. Not enough time
> between two kings for a newly discovered king? No problem, just
> rearrange names. They had a big problem with the 4th dynasty,
> co-regents/brothers/sons, just what was going on they couldn't
> figure it out. There wasn't time for another king after the G1
> builder (if I remember correctly) they eventually concluded
> that it wasn't a new name discovered, it was just another name
> for Khufu. I wish I could remember which newly discovered
> pharaoh was given a particular position in a dynasty simply
> because it was the only place where there was room for the
> length of his reign.
> When I read of cuneiform, there are sentences and whole
> documents that make sense. It's amazing that anyone was able
> to decipher that language. Cuneiform is an older language, yet
> the outcome is readable, coherent. But the hieroglyph
> translations are gibberish. It's nonsense and they know it,
> so it's explained away as religious beliefs in a fantastic
> parade of bizarre deities. Better to have a bizarre religion
> than to admit of gross mistranslations.
> The language was reverse engineered, so to speak, from Coptic
> and Greek. You present the final outcome, how it stands now,
> with the "fact" that a king had 5 names. It sounds perfectly
> believable when you state it as...... they had 5
> titles
....period. It is presumed to be fact for the simple
> reason that an egyptologist would not state it if it were not a
> fact. But you do not present what went on behind the scenes,
> what transpired to make that "fact" come about. We presume
> that the discovery of this fact was born of meticulous study,
> indisputable written records, etc., being double and triple
> checked by the savants of the time. We also presume that these
> savants were pure of motive.
> But is this the truth?
> Regarding Chemmis ; Cheops and Suphis are mentioned once in
> extant literature. There is no history or etymology to study.
> But there is history for Chemmis, so of course the name is more
> interesting. If Cheops and Suphis were legendary, as claimed, I
> would expect to find the names in other authors. Especially
> since the Greeks, Romans, Babylonians, left such a wealth of
> information.

Egyptology has done a very remarkable job almost across the board. They took a couple of bad turns and they are too quick to extrapolate data. It's vexing that they all use different words to name the same thing and then fail to leave a trail of bread crumbs so average folk can't follow them.

There is one thing they must address to get with the times. They must stop understanding the culture in terms of a book of incantation. It is affecting their understanding of what they know. The first step is to admit they don't have a clue what this book says and that no evidence exists that it is just like the book of the dead. If they did nothing but this it would reright their boat and put us back on a course that would lead to answers.

I fear Egyptology is going to become superfluous and irrelevant if they stick the present course. They will find a world according to superstitious tomb builders who never existed.

Man fears the pyramid, time fears man.

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Audrey - How to photoshop a cartouche a la Vyse 1165 Dr. Troglodyte 10-May-13 20:14
William Wilberforce, crook 544 Martin Stower 11-May-13 12:17
Re: William Wilberforce, crook 511 Nejc 11-May-13 16:15
Re: William Wilberforce, crook 527 Merrell 11-May-13 18:36
Re: William Wilberforce, crook 519 Scott Creighton 12-May-13 11:27
Re: William Wilberforce, crook 594 Merrell 12-May-13 22:37
Re: William Wilberforce, crook 561 Scott Creighton 13-May-13 11:03
Wilberforce, abolitionist; Vyse, excavator 466 Merrell 13-May-13 13:11
Re: Wilberforce, abolitionist; Vyse, 513 Scott Creighton 13-May-13 13:21
Re: Wilberforce, abolitionist; Vyse, 541 Martin Stower 13-May-13 16:14
Re: Wilberforce, abolitionist; Vyse, 424 Scott Creighton 14-May-13 09:16
Re: Wilberforce, abolitionist; Vyse, 510 Merrell 14-May-13 09:41
Re: Wilberforce, abolitionist; Vyse, 511 Scott Creighton 14-May-13 09:47
Re: Wilberforce, abolitionist; Vyse, 532 Martin Stower 15-May-13 11:18
Re: Wilberforce, abolitionist; Vyse, 618 Scott Creighton 15-May-13 12:02
Re: Wilberforce, abolitionist; Vyse, 521 Martin Stower 15-May-13 14:26
Re: Wilberforce, abolitionist; Vyse, 464 Scott Creighton 15-May-13 15:00
Re: Wilberforce, abolitionist; Vyse, 589 Martin Stower 16-May-13 09:55
Re: Wilberforce, abolitionist; Vyse, 501 Scott Creighton 16-May-13 10:04
Re: Wilberforce, abolitionist; Vyse, 499 Martin Stower 16-May-13 10:34
Re: Wilberforce, abolitionist; Vyse, 449 Scott Creighton 16-May-13 10:43
Re: Wilberforce, abolitionist; Vyse, 516 Martin Stower 16-May-13 11:00
Re: Wilberforce, abolitionist; Vyse, 581 Scott Creighton 16-May-13 11:09
Re: Wilberforce, abolitionist; Vyse, 506 Martin Stower 16-May-13 11:31
Re: Wilberforce, abolitionist; Vyse, 478 Scott Creighton 16-May-13 11:36
Re: Wilberforce, abolitionist; Vyse, 475 cladking 16-May-13 15:14
Re: What are they so afraid of? 564 Thunderbird 16-May-13 15:55
Re: What are they so afraid of? 507 cladking 16-May-13 21:40
Calling Dr. Schoch 594 Dr. Troglodyte 16-May-13 16:04
Re: Calling Dr. Schoch 575 Scott Creighton 16-May-13 16:26
Logbook doubts 496 Merrell 16-May-13 21:38
Re: Logbook doubts 547 Scott Creighton 16-May-13 22:46
Re: Logbook doubts 445 Merrell 16-May-13 23:25
Re: Logbook doubts 511 Scott Creighton 17-May-13 08:00
Re: Logbook doubts 503 Merrell 17-May-13 14:30
Re: Logbook doubts 558 Scott Creighton 17-May-13 14:56
Re: Logbook doubts 504 Martin Stower 17-May-13 16:11
Re: Logbook doubts 484 Scott Creighton 17-May-13 20:53
Re: Logbook doubts 453 MJT 17-May-13 22:31
Re: Logbook doubts 538 Merrell 18-May-13 11:23
Re: Logbook doubts 598 Scott Creighton 18-May-13 12:10
Re: Logbook doubts 629 Martin Stower 20-May-13 17:54
Re: Logbook doubts 429 Scott Creighton 21-May-13 00:20
Re: Logbook doubts 512 Morten 21-May-13 09:03
Re: Logbook doubts 554 Scott Creighton 21-May-13 10:22
Re: Logbook doubts 556 Merrell 21-May-13 10:26
Re: Logbook doubts 484 Scott Creighton 21-May-13 10:35
Re: Logbook doubts 518 Merrell 21-May-13 13:46
Re: Logbook doubts 432 Morten 21-May-13 10:40
Re: Logbook doubts 517 Scott Creighton 21-May-13 11:04
Re: Logbook doubts 529 Morten 21-May-13 11:29
Re: Logbook doubts 560 Scott Creighton 21-May-13 12:04
Re: Logbook doubts 512 Morten 21-May-13 13:19
Re: Logbook doubts 616 Scott Creighton 21-May-13 13:33
Re: Logbook doubts 513 Merrell 21-May-13 14:16
Re: Logbook doubts 516 Scott Creighton 21-May-13 14:27
Re: Logbook doubts 559 Merrell 21-May-13 23:48
Re: Logbook doubts 541 Morten 21-May-13 14:37
Re: Logbook doubts 506 Scott Creighton 21-May-13 14:54
Re: Logbook doubts 538 Morten 22-May-13 10:51
Re: Logbook doubts 568 Martin Stower 21-May-13 17:13
Re: Logbook doubts 464 Audrey 22-May-13 02:20
Re: Logbook doubts 506 Morten 22-May-13 08:18
Re: Logbook doubts 470 Martin Stower 22-May-13 15:02
Re: Logbook doubts 489 Audrey 24-May-13 01:32
Re: Logbook doubts 704 Martin Stower 24-May-13 13:43
Re: Logbook doubts 401 Audrey 24-May-13 01:10
Re: Logbook doubts 430 Scott Creighton 10-Jun-14 13:15
Re: Logbook doubts 545 eyeofhorus33 10-Jun-14 18:17
Re: Logbook doubts 532 Scott Creighton 10-Jun-14 22:01
Re: Logbook doubts 471 eyeofhorus33 10-Jun-14 22:15
Re:Khufu....Hyksos? 504 Thunderbird 11-Jun-14 01:36
Re: Logbook doubts 496 Audrey 11-Jun-14 20:47
Re: Logbook doubts 620 eyeofhorus33 11-Jun-14 22:18
Re: Logbook doubts 531 Audrey 12-Jun-14 21:22
Re: Logbook doubts 469 eyeofhorus33 12-Jun-14 22:20
Re: Logbook doubts 469 cladking 13-Jun-14 00:24
Re: Logbook doubts 454 eyeofhorus33 13-Jun-14 22:53
Re: Logbook doubts 460 cladking 13-Jun-14 23:23
Re: Logbook doubts 468 eyeofhorus33 13-Jun-14 23:48
Re: Logbook doubts 468 cladking 14-Jun-14 00:17
Re: Logbook doubts 490 Audrey 14-Jun-14 02:17
Re: Logbook doubts 544 eyeofhorus33 14-Jun-14 11:44
Re: Logbook doubts 487 cladking 14-Jun-14 15:25
context and customs 433 Audrey 14-Jun-14 19:25
Re: context and customs 427 cladking 14-Jun-14 21:23
Re: Logbook doubts 496 eyeofhorus33 14-Jun-14 21:29
Re: Logbook doubts 482 cladking 14-Jun-14 22:07
Re: Logbook doubts 473 eyeofhorus33 14-Jun-14 23:04
Re: Logbook doubts 506 cladking 15-Jun-14 00:29
Re: Logbook doubts 498 eyeofhorus33 15-Jun-14 18:35
Re: Logbook doubts 482 cladking 15-Jun-14 20:56
Re: Logbook doubts 495 eyeofhorus33 15-Jun-14 21:26
Language doubts 451 cladking 15-Jun-14 21:48
Re: Language doubts 454 eyeofhorus33 15-Jun-14 22:05
Re: Language doubts 469 cladking 15-Jun-14 22:51
Re: Language doubts 468 Audrey 16-Jun-14 04:17
Re: Language doubts 517 cladking 16-Jun-14 04:51
Re: Logbook doubts 383 cladking 12-Jun-14 22:57
Re:doubts 497 Thunderbird 11-Jun-14 23:36
Re:doubts 453 Audrey 12-Jun-14 19:54
Moderator Notice 457 Hoppy 22-May-13 01:32
Re: Logbook doubts 446 Audrey 22-May-13 02:52
Re: Logbook doubts 407 Martin Stower 18-May-13 13:37
Re: Logbook doubts 478 Scott Creighton 18-May-13 14:01
Re: Logbook doubts 459 Martin Stower 18-May-13 14:52
Re: Logbook doubts 459 Scott Creighton 18-May-13 17:16
Re: Logbook doubts 543 Martin Stower 20-May-13 16:57
Re: Logbook doubts 471 Scott Creighton 20-May-13 17:51
Re: Logbook doubts 448 Martin Stower 20-May-13 18:25
Re: Logbook doubts 326 Scott Creighton 20-May-13 18:49
Re: Logbook doubts 497 Martin Stower 21-May-13 15:42
Re: Logbook doubts 468 HungryHun 17-May-13 15:20
Re: Conspired.... 472 Thunderbird 17-May-13 15:47
Re: Conspired.... 470 HungryHun 17-May-13 16:04
Re: Conspired.... 444 Thunderbird 17-May-13 23:17
Re: Conspired....inspire d by money 505 Ratcho 03-Jun-13 05:57
Re: Logbook doubts 414 Martin Stower 17-May-13 16:23
Re: Logbook doubts 472 HungryHun 17-May-13 16:28
Re: Logbook doubts 474 Thunderbird 17-May-13 22:25
Would you buy a used cartouche from this man? 451 LonelyAngel 29-May-13 14:41
Re: Would you buy a used cartouche from this man? 429 Nejc 29-May-13 23:23
Re: Would you buy a used cartouche from this man? 443 Merrell 30-May-13 09:25
Re: Would you buy a used cartouche from this man? 499 Martin Stower 30-May-13 12:48
Re: Would you buy a used cartouche from this man? 478 WINDINWATERS 30-May-13 14:40
Re: Would you buy a used cartouche from this man? 379 Martin Stower 31-May-13 18:00
Re: Would you buy a used cartouche from this man? 439 WINDINWATERS 31-May-13 21:47
Re: Would you buy a used cartouche from this man? 425 LonelyAngel 30-May-13 17:43
Re: Would you buy a used cartouche from this man? 427 Martin Stower 31-May-13 18:24
Re: Would you buy a used cartouche from this man? 483 cladking 01-Jun-13 03:28
Re: Would you buy a used cartouche from this man? 471 Merrell 01-Jun-13 11:02
Re: Would you buy a used cartouche from this man? 412 LonelyAngel 03-Jun-13 20:59
Re: Would you buy a used cartouche from this man? 432 LonelyAngel 03-Jun-13 20:47
Re: Logbook doubts 645 Martin Stower 17-May-13 15:51
Re: Logbook doubts 473 Scott Creighton 17-May-13 20:27
Re: Logbook doubts 492 Nejc 17-May-13 22:28
Re: Logbook doubts 905 Martin Stower 18-May-13 14:43
Re: Logbook doubts 745 Scott Creighton 18-May-13 17:12
Re: Logbook doubts 546 Merrell 19-May-13 16:43
Re: Logbook doubts 478 Scott Creighton 20-May-13 09:38
Re: Logbook doubts 440 Merrell 20-May-13 13:29
Re: Logbook doubts 566 Scott Creighton 20-May-13 13:58
Re: Logbook doubts 451 Merrell 20-May-13 14:55
Re: Logbook doubts 471 Scott Creighton 20-May-13 18:46
Re: Logbook doubts 505 HungryHun 20-May-13 22:02
Re: Logbook doubts 470 Thanos5150 20-May-13 23:05
Re: Logbook doubts 488 sfbey 20-May-13 23:23
Re: Logbook doubts 476 Thanos5150 20-May-13 23:35
Re: Logbook doubts 489 sfbey 21-May-13 15:41
Moghrah 492 Merrell 21-May-13 18:09
Re: Logbook doubts 372 Scott Creighton 20-May-13 23:38
Re: Logbook doubts 394 Merrell 21-May-13 21:34
Re: Logbook doubts 409 Audrey 22-May-13 02:34
Re: Logbook doubts 452 Merrell 21-May-13 21:58
Re: Logbook doubts 472 Sirfiroth 22-May-13 10:42
Re: Logbook doubts 433 Merrell 22-May-13 11:43
Re: Logbook doubts 412 Sirfiroth 22-May-13 17:44
Re: Logbook doubts 349 Nejc 22-May-13 23:18
Re: Logbook doubts 344 cladking 23-May-13 00:51
Re: Logbook doubts 358 Merrell 23-May-13 08:41
Re: Logbook doubts 390 Martin Stower 20-May-13 19:19
Re: Logbook doubts 302 Scott Creighton 20-May-13 19:35
Re: Logbook doubts 427 Martin Stower 21-May-13 17:59
Moderator Warning 504 JonnyMcA 21-May-13 20:12
Moderator Warning 411 JonnyMcA 21-May-13 20:11
Re: exercise elementary caution about sources 379 Thunderbird 20-May-13 19:36
Re: Logbook doubts 422 Audrey 22-May-13 02:50
Re: Logbook doubts 366 Merrell 22-May-13 12:53
Re: Logbook doubts 339 Audrey 24-May-13 01:48
Moderator Caution 297 Hoppy 22-May-13 12:55
Re: Logbook doubts 297 Martin Stower 22-May-13 16:06
Re: Logbook doubts 263 Audrey 24-May-13 01:41
Re: Logbook doubts 259 Martin Stower 24-May-13 13:56
Re: Logbook doubts 247 Thunderbird 17-May-13 22:40
Re: Calling Dr. Schoch 328 Thanos5150 16-May-13 19:41
Re: Calling Dr. Schoch 294 Dr. Troglodyte 16-May-13 21:56
Re: Calling Dr. Schoch 279 Thanos5150 16-May-13 23:11
Re: Calling Dr. Schoch 262 Dr. Troglodyte 17-May-13 00:01
Re: Calling Dr. Schoch 298 Thanos5150 17-May-13 00:30
Re: Calling Dr. Schoch 265 cladking 16-May-13 21:50
Moderator Caution 311 Hoppy 15-May-13 14:09
Re: William Wilberforce, crook 231 Martin Stower 13-May-13 16:53
Re: William Wilberforce, crook 273 Scott Creighton 13-May-13 17:40
Re: William Wilberforce, crook 265 Martin Stower 13-May-13 18:32
Re: William Wilberforce, crook 264 Scott Creighton 13-May-13 19:23
Moderator Caution #2 188 Hoppy 15-May-13 14:18
Re: William Wilberforce, crook 219 Martin Stower 15-May-13 14:52
Re: Audrey - How to photoshop a cartouche a la Vyse 262 Nejc 11-May-13 13:47
Re: Audrey - How to photoshop a cartouche a la Vyse 244 JonnyMcA 11-May-13 18:41
Re: Audrey - How to photoshop a cartouche a la Vyse 248 Audrey 12-May-13 07:59
Re: Audrey - How to photoshop a cartouche a la Vyse 225 JonnyMcA 12-May-13 09:58
Re: Audrey - How to photoshop a cartouche a la Vyse 280 HungryHun 12-May-13 13:00
Re: Audrey - How to photoshop a cartouche a la Vyse 225 HungryHun 13-May-13 12:46
Re: Caviglia's complaint.... 233 Thunderbird 13-May-13 16:20
Re: Audrey - How to photoshop a cartouche a la Vyse 229 HungryHun 13-May-13 19:36
Re: Audrey - How to photoshop a cartouche a la Vyse 222 Martin Stower 15-May-13 15:04
Re: Audrey - How to photoshop a cartouche a la Vyse 216 HungryHun 16-May-13 10:03
Re: Audrey - How to photoshop a cartouche a la Vyse 228 Martin Stower 16-May-13 10:47
Re: Audrey - How to photoshop a cartouche a la Vyse 203 Merrell 16-May-13 16:33
Re: Audrey - How to photoshop a cartouche a la Vyse 228 Martin Stower 18-May-13 15:02
Re: If fake, then... what? 254 MJT 16-May-13 12:45
More Vyse wickedness 242 Martin Stower 18-May-13 15:14
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Re: More Vyse wickedness 335 Martin Stower 20-May-13 16:44
Re: More Vyse wickedness 340 Scott Creighton 20-May-13 17:56
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Re: More Vyse wickedness 348 Audrey 22-May-13 02:42
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Re: Audrey - How to photoshop a cartouche a la Vyse 263 Audrey 14-Jun-14 21:11
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