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Audrey wrote (in response to my statement as follows):

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To which I might add that the source of this illustration, Wilkinson’s Manners and Customs, wasn’t published until late 1837. Short of a time machine, Vyse didn’t have it.
> How do you know in which month it was printed?

It was published in 1837. That by itself gives a 0.5 probability of it having been published in the latter half of the year, too late to have been available to Vyse during the critical period (making Sitchin’s claim that it was so available a very unsafe one to start with).

But we can do better than that. An advertisement of “NEW WORKS ON THE EVE OF PUBLICATION BY MR. MURRAY” appeared in various publications as late as December 1837:

[books.google.co.uk]

The “new works on the eve of publication” included “The Manners and Customs of the Ancient Egyptians”. So the indications are that it wasn’t published until very late in 1837 (or even 1838) . . .

An advertisement in The Times of 24 January 1838 suggests that this was the day of publication. Thanks to the person who sent me it.

> Another source would have been the Abydos table. Ever heard of
> it?

Yes, Audrey, I have heard of it. You’ll need to explain its relevance to this discussion, as (a) it doesn’t have neat English captions explaining what the names are and (b) it doesn’t include the name Hr mDdw (the Horus name of Khufu), in linear form or otherwise.

M.



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Re: Wilberforce, abolitionist; Vyse, 632 Martin Stower 16-May-13 09:55
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