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MA: Ah, just as I expected. We are on yet another of Scott´s "I can imagine it - so it must be true" journeys. He can not find the evidence (Google let him down?), so he dreams it up.

Why do you continue to call me CM?

SC: Already fixed.

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SC: What I imagine is irrelevant.

MA: My point exactly. Your "I can imagine it - so it must be true" is irrelevant. We agree at last.

SC: Er – no. You don’t get away that easily. You cannot just clip and post my statement out of context. What MATTERS is that we have a ‘testimony’ from Brewer/Allen that alleges fraud. THAT is what you should be concerned about. And that the imperative is to obtain the truth of the matter. Are you interested in obtaining the truth?

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SC: Now, I will make this easy for you. We can settle this discussion very easily.

MA: The discussion I engaged in is already settled. I asked you to provide an example of an inscription Vyse could have copied. You could not. What I got was an insight into your lively imagination - an imagination that we agree is irrelevant.

SC: Hilarious. You say that because those of us with an imagination can imagine the ways of perpetrating such a fraud that the likes of your good self, without an imagination, could not. To you perpetrating such a fraud was deemed “impossible”. The use of imagination from myself and others has shown that it wasn’t. But then you don’t want to use any imagination you might have because it might reveal to you possibilities you rather wouldn’t want to consider. In short – you are running scared of the truth and are merely here attempting to help shore up a thoroughly untenable position.

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SC: All you have to do is present a single piece of evidence that proves, beyond question, that these inscriptions are genuine.

MA:Why would you ask me that? I am open to consider the available evidence and draw my conclusion from that. Evidence, mind you, not what you are able to imagine.. Hence my question - did Vyse have access to an inscription he could copy.

SC: Asks the person who is happy to accept a stone box in the early giant pyramids is a sarcophagus when no remains of any king have ever been found. Do you imagine a dead king in those stone boxes? Do you imagine just when it suits you? Your argument is like saying a person found dead with a bullet in them wasn’t shot because no one has found the gun. The gun is the logical conclusion even in its absence. If fraud was committed as the Brewer/Allan ‘testimony’ implies then Tricky Dicky would have to have had found something to copy. That isn’t imagined – it is the logical conclusion.

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SC: Do that and I shall happily depart this discussion and you will never hear another peep from me on this matter again - do it not and you can be sure it will rumble on ad infinitum.

MA: No, please "peep" all you like. Watching you trying to counter Stower´s fact-based arguments with your "I can imagine it" is highly entertaining. Peep away.

SC: Stower – the guy who cannot answer three simple questions? Aye right!

SC



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Audrey - How to photoshop a cartouche a la Vyse 1206 Dr. Troglodyte 10-May-13 20:14
William Wilberforce, crook 567 Martin Stower 11-May-13 12:17
Re: William Wilberforce, crook 535 Nejc 11-May-13 16:15
Re: William Wilberforce, crook 551 Merrell 11-May-13 18:36
Re: William Wilberforce, crook 542 Scott Creighton 12-May-13 11:27
Re: William Wilberforce, crook 618 Merrell 12-May-13 22:37
Re: William Wilberforce, crook 585 Scott Creighton 13-May-13 11:03
Wilberforce, abolitionist; Vyse, excavator 491 Merrell 13-May-13 13:11
Re: Wilberforce, abolitionist; Vyse, 537 Scott Creighton 13-May-13 13:21
Re: Wilberforce, abolitionist; Vyse, 567 Martin Stower 13-May-13 16:14
Re: Wilberforce, abolitionist; Vyse, 449 Scott Creighton 14-May-13 09:16
Re: Wilberforce, abolitionist; Vyse, 535 Merrell 14-May-13 09:41
Re: Wilberforce, abolitionist; Vyse, 538 Scott Creighton 14-May-13 09:47
Re: Wilberforce, abolitionist; Vyse, 632 Martin Stower 15-May-13 11:18
Re: Wilberforce, abolitionist; Vyse, 656 Scott Creighton 15-May-13 12:02
Re: Wilberforce, abolitionist; Vyse, 544 Martin Stower 15-May-13 14:26
Re: Wilberforce, abolitionist; Vyse, 486 Scott Creighton 15-May-13 15:00
Re: Wilberforce, abolitionist; Vyse, 614 Martin Stower 16-May-13 09:55
Re: Wilberforce, abolitionist; Vyse, 524 Scott Creighton 16-May-13 10:04
Re: Wilberforce, abolitionist; Vyse, 526 Martin Stower 16-May-13 10:34
Re: Wilberforce, abolitionist; Vyse, 474 Scott Creighton 16-May-13 10:43
Re: Wilberforce, abolitionist; Vyse, 535 Martin Stower 16-May-13 11:00
Re: Wilberforce, abolitionist; Vyse, 601 Scott Creighton 16-May-13 11:09
Re: Wilberforce, abolitionist; Vyse, 529 Martin Stower 16-May-13 11:31
Re: Wilberforce, abolitionist; Vyse, 501 Scott Creighton 16-May-13 11:36
Re: Wilberforce, abolitionist; Vyse, 496 cladking 16-May-13 15:14
Re: What are they so afraid of? 591 Thunderbird 16-May-13 15:55
Re: What are they so afraid of? 531 cladking 16-May-13 21:40
Calling Dr. Schoch 622 Dr. Troglodyte 16-May-13 16:04
Re: Calling Dr. Schoch 610 Scott Creighton 16-May-13 16:26
Logbook doubts 529 Merrell 16-May-13 21:38
Re: Logbook doubts 572 Scott Creighton 16-May-13 22:46
Re: Logbook doubts 468 Merrell 16-May-13 23:25
Re: Logbook doubts 536 Scott Creighton 17-May-13 08:00
Re: Logbook doubts 527 Merrell 17-May-13 14:30
Re: Logbook doubts 701 Scott Creighton 17-May-13 14:56
Re: Logbook doubts 531 Martin Stower 17-May-13 16:11
Re: Logbook doubts 510 Scott Creighton 17-May-13 20:53
Re: Logbook doubts 481 MJT 17-May-13 22:31
Re: Logbook doubts 564 Merrell 18-May-13 11:23
Re: Logbook doubts 625 Scott Creighton 18-May-13 12:10
Re: Logbook doubts 658 Martin Stower 20-May-13 17:54
Re: Logbook doubts 451 Scott Creighton 21-May-13 00:20
Re: Logbook doubts 542 Morten 21-May-13 09:03
Re: Logbook doubts 580 Scott Creighton 21-May-13 10:22
Re: Logbook doubts 581 Merrell 21-May-13 10:26
Re: Logbook doubts 508 Scott Creighton 21-May-13 10:35
Re: Logbook doubts 539 Merrell 21-May-13 13:46
Re: Logbook doubts 456 Morten 21-May-13 10:40
Re: Logbook doubts 545 Scott Creighton 21-May-13 11:04
Re: Logbook doubts 553 Morten 21-May-13 11:29
Re: Logbook doubts 589 Scott Creighton 21-May-13 12:04
Re: Logbook doubts 535 Morten 21-May-13 13:19
Re: Logbook doubts 645 Scott Creighton 21-May-13 13:33
Re: Logbook doubts 538 Merrell 21-May-13 14:16
Re: Logbook doubts 545 Scott Creighton 21-May-13 14:27
Re: Logbook doubts 588 Merrell 21-May-13 23:48
Re: Logbook doubts 564 Morten 21-May-13 14:37
Re: Logbook doubts 530 Scott Creighton 21-May-13 14:54
Re: Logbook doubts 562 Morten 22-May-13 10:51
Re: Logbook doubts 590 Martin Stower 21-May-13 17:13
Re: Logbook doubts 553 Audrey 22-May-13 02:20
Re: Logbook doubts 531 Morten 22-May-13 08:18
Re: Logbook doubts 497 Martin Stower 22-May-13 15:02
Re: Logbook doubts 514 Audrey 24-May-13 01:32
Re: Logbook doubts 782 Martin Stower 24-May-13 13:43
Re: Logbook doubts 426 Audrey 24-May-13 01:10
Re: Logbook doubts 451 Scott Creighton 10-Jun-14 13:15
Re: Logbook doubts 570 eyeofhorus33 10-Jun-14 18:17
Re: Logbook doubts 556 Scott Creighton 10-Jun-14 22:01
Re: Logbook doubts 496 eyeofhorus33 10-Jun-14 22:15
Re:Khufu....Hyksos? 528 Thunderbird 11-Jun-14 01:36
Re: Logbook doubts 518 Audrey 11-Jun-14 20:47
Re: Logbook doubts 720 eyeofhorus33 11-Jun-14 22:18
Re: Logbook doubts 553 Audrey 12-Jun-14 21:22
Re: Logbook doubts 491 eyeofhorus33 12-Jun-14 22:20
Re: Logbook doubts 492 cladking 13-Jun-14 00:24
Re: Logbook doubts 477 eyeofhorus33 13-Jun-14 22:53
Re: Logbook doubts 487 cladking 13-Jun-14 23:23
Re: Logbook doubts 493 eyeofhorus33 13-Jun-14 23:48
Re: Logbook doubts 489 cladking 14-Jun-14 00:17
Re: Logbook doubts 509 Audrey 14-Jun-14 02:17
Re: Logbook doubts 568 eyeofhorus33 14-Jun-14 11:44
Re: Logbook doubts 507 cladking 14-Jun-14 15:25
context and customs 451 Audrey 14-Jun-14 19:25
Re: context and customs 452 cladking 14-Jun-14 21:23
Re: Logbook doubts 522 eyeofhorus33 14-Jun-14 21:29
Re: Logbook doubts 503 cladking 14-Jun-14 22:07
Re: Logbook doubts 497 eyeofhorus33 14-Jun-14 23:04
Re: Logbook doubts 529 cladking 15-Jun-14 00:29
Re: Logbook doubts 519 eyeofhorus33 15-Jun-14 18:35
Re: Logbook doubts 507 cladking 15-Jun-14 20:56
Re: Logbook doubts 516 eyeofhorus33 15-Jun-14 21:26
Language doubts 473 cladking 15-Jun-14 21:48
Re: Language doubts 479 eyeofhorus33 15-Jun-14 22:05
Re: Language doubts 490 cladking 15-Jun-14 22:51
Re: Language doubts 490 Audrey 16-Jun-14 04:17
Re: Language doubts 535 cladking 16-Jun-14 04:51
Re: Logbook doubts 407 cladking 12-Jun-14 22:57
Re:doubts 516 Thunderbird 11-Jun-14 23:36
Re:doubts 474 Audrey 12-Jun-14 19:54
Moderator Notice 479 Hoppy 22-May-13 01:32
Re: Logbook doubts 469 Audrey 22-May-13 02:52
Re: Logbook doubts 429 Martin Stower 18-May-13 13:37
Re: Logbook doubts 499 Scott Creighton 18-May-13 14:01
Re: Logbook doubts 482 Martin Stower 18-May-13 14:52
Re: Logbook doubts 480 Scott Creighton 18-May-13 17:16
Re: Logbook doubts 565 Martin Stower 20-May-13 16:57
Re: Logbook doubts 492 Scott Creighton 20-May-13 17:51
Re: Logbook doubts 473 Martin Stower 20-May-13 18:25
Re: Logbook doubts 353 Scott Creighton 20-May-13 18:49
Re: Logbook doubts 516 Martin Stower 21-May-13 15:42
Re: Logbook doubts 494 HungryHun 17-May-13 15:20
Re: Conspired.... 494 Thunderbird 17-May-13 15:47
Re: Conspired.... 490 HungryHun 17-May-13 16:04
Re: Conspired.... 465 Thunderbird 17-May-13 23:17
Re: Conspired....inspire d by money 529 Ratcho 03-Jun-13 05:57
Re: Logbook doubts 436 Martin Stower 17-May-13 16:23
Re: Logbook doubts 497 HungryHun 17-May-13 16:28
Re: Logbook doubts 498 Thunderbird 17-May-13 22:25
Would you buy a used cartouche from this man? 470 LonelyAngel 29-May-13 14:41
Re: Would you buy a used cartouche from this man? 454 Nejc 29-May-13 23:23
Re: Would you buy a used cartouche from this man? 467 Merrell 30-May-13 09:25
Re: Would you buy a used cartouche from this man? 520 Martin Stower 30-May-13 12:48
Re: Would you buy a used cartouche from this man? 505 WINDINWATERS 30-May-13 14:40
Re: Would you buy a used cartouche from this man? 400 Martin Stower 31-May-13 18:00
Re: Would you buy a used cartouche from this man? 463 WINDINWATERS 31-May-13 21:47
Re: Would you buy a used cartouche from this man? 451 LonelyAngel 30-May-13 17:43
Re: Would you buy a used cartouche from this man? 450 Martin Stower 31-May-13 18:24
Re: Would you buy a used cartouche from this man? 505 cladking 01-Jun-13 03:28
Re: Would you buy a used cartouche from this man? 491 Merrell 01-Jun-13 11:02
Re: Would you buy a used cartouche from this man? 477 LonelyAngel 03-Jun-13 20:59
Re: Would you buy a used cartouche from this man? 456 LonelyAngel 03-Jun-13 20:47
Re: Logbook doubts 667 Martin Stower 17-May-13 15:51
Re: Logbook doubts 499 Scott Creighton 17-May-13 20:27
Re: Logbook doubts 514 Nejc 17-May-13 22:28
Re: Logbook doubts 948 Martin Stower 18-May-13 14:43
Re: Logbook doubts 779 Scott Creighton 18-May-13 17:12
Re: Logbook doubts 565 Merrell 19-May-13 16:43
Re: Logbook doubts 501 Scott Creighton 20-May-13 09:38
Re: Logbook doubts 462 Merrell 20-May-13 13:29
Re: Logbook doubts 585 Scott Creighton 20-May-13 13:58
Re: Logbook doubts 473 Merrell 20-May-13 14:55
Re: Logbook doubts 493 Scott Creighton 20-May-13 18:46
Re: Logbook doubts 531 HungryHun 20-May-13 22:02
Re: Logbook doubts 489 Thanos5150 20-May-13 23:05
Re: Logbook doubts 508 sfbey 20-May-13 23:23
Re: Logbook doubts 500 Thanos5150 20-May-13 23:35
Re: Logbook doubts 510 sfbey 21-May-13 15:41
Moghrah 512 Merrell 21-May-13 18:09
Re: Logbook doubts 396 Scott Creighton 20-May-13 23:38
Re: Logbook doubts 418 Merrell 21-May-13 21:34
Re: Logbook doubts 433 Audrey 22-May-13 02:34
Re: Logbook doubts 475 Merrell 21-May-13 21:58
Re: Logbook doubts 497 Sirfiroth 22-May-13 10:42
Re: Logbook doubts 455 Merrell 22-May-13 11:43
Re: Logbook doubts 438 Sirfiroth 22-May-13 17:44
Re: Logbook doubts 374 Nejc 22-May-13 23:18
Re: Logbook doubts 365 cladking 23-May-13 00:51
Re: Logbook doubts 381 Merrell 23-May-13 08:41
Re: Logbook doubts 414 Martin Stower 20-May-13 19:19
Re: Logbook doubts 331 Scott Creighton 20-May-13 19:35
Re: Logbook doubts 450 Martin Stower 21-May-13 17:59
Moderator Warning 559 JonnyMcA 21-May-13 20:12
Moderator Warning 435 JonnyMcA 21-May-13 20:11
Re: exercise elementary caution about sources 403 Thunderbird 20-May-13 19:36
Re: Logbook doubts 443 Audrey 22-May-13 02:50
Re: Logbook doubts 386 Merrell 22-May-13 12:53
Re: Logbook doubts 359 Audrey 24-May-13 01:48
Moderator Caution 321 Hoppy 22-May-13 12:55
Re: Logbook doubts 325 Martin Stower 22-May-13 16:06
Re: Logbook doubts 285 Audrey 24-May-13 01:41
Re: Logbook doubts 288 Martin Stower 24-May-13 13:56
Re: Logbook doubts 273 Thunderbird 17-May-13 22:40
Re: Calling Dr. Schoch 351 Thanos5150 16-May-13 19:41
Re: Calling Dr. Schoch 345 Dr. Troglodyte 16-May-13 21:56
Re: Calling Dr. Schoch 298 Thanos5150 16-May-13 23:11
Re: Calling Dr. Schoch 284 Dr. Troglodyte 17-May-13 00:01
Re: Calling Dr. Schoch 321 Thanos5150 17-May-13 00:30
Re: Calling Dr. Schoch 288 cladking 16-May-13 21:50
Moderator Caution 330 Hoppy 15-May-13 14:09
Re: William Wilberforce, crook 254 Martin Stower 13-May-13 16:53
Re: William Wilberforce, crook 298 Scott Creighton 13-May-13 17:40
Re: William Wilberforce, crook 287 Martin Stower 13-May-13 18:32
Re: William Wilberforce, crook 338 Scott Creighton 13-May-13 19:23
Moderator Caution #2 211 Hoppy 15-May-13 14:18
Re: William Wilberforce, crook 244 Martin Stower 15-May-13 14:52
Re: Audrey - How to photoshop a cartouche a la Vyse 286 Nejc 11-May-13 13:47
Re: Audrey - How to photoshop a cartouche a la Vyse 266 JonnyMcA 11-May-13 18:41
Re: Audrey - How to photoshop a cartouche a la Vyse 271 Audrey 12-May-13 07:59
Re: Audrey - How to photoshop a cartouche a la Vyse 245 JonnyMcA 12-May-13 09:58
Re: Audrey - How to photoshop a cartouche a la Vyse 299 HungryHun 12-May-13 13:00
Re: Audrey - How to photoshop a cartouche a la Vyse 245 HungryHun 13-May-13 12:46
Re: Caviglia's complaint.... 253 Thunderbird 13-May-13 16:20
Re: Audrey - How to photoshop a cartouche a la Vyse 251 HungryHun 13-May-13 19:36
Re: Audrey - How to photoshop a cartouche a la Vyse 247 Martin Stower 15-May-13 15:04
Re: Audrey - How to photoshop a cartouche a la Vyse 236 HungryHun 16-May-13 10:03
Re: Audrey - How to photoshop a cartouche a la Vyse 249 Martin Stower 16-May-13 10:47
Re: Audrey - How to photoshop a cartouche a la Vyse 226 Merrell 16-May-13 16:33
Re: Audrey - How to photoshop a cartouche a la Vyse 249 Martin Stower 18-May-13 15:02
Re: If fake, then... what? 277 MJT 16-May-13 12:45
More Vyse wickedness 265 Martin Stower 18-May-13 15:14
Re: More Vyse wickedness 346 Scott Creighton 19-May-13 09:01
Re: More Vyse wickedness 354 Martin Stower 20-May-13 16:44
Re: More Vyse wickedness 369 Scott Creighton 20-May-13 17:56
Re: More Vyse wickedness 398 jamesglory 21-May-13 10:26
Re: More Vyse wickedness 370 Audrey 22-May-13 02:42
Moderator Caution 296 Hoppy 20-May-13 17:57
Re: Audrey - How to photoshop a cartouche a la Vyse 288 Audrey 14-Jun-14 21:11
Re: Audrey - How to photoshop a cartouche a la Vyse 255 cladking 14-Jun-14 21:49
Re: Audrey - How to photoshop a cartouche a la Vyse 262 Scott Creighton 15-Jun-14 00:13
Re: Audrey - How to photoshop a cartouche a la Vyse 291 eyeofhorus33 15-Jun-14 00:58
Re: Audrey - How to photoshop a cartouche a la Vyse 266 cladking 15-Jun-14 01:12
Re: Audrey - How to photoshop a cartouche a la Vyse 250 Sirfiroth 15-Jun-14 19:09
Re: Audrey - How to photoshop a cartouche a la Vyse 290 cladking 15-Jun-14 20:40
Re: Audrey - How to photoshop a cartouche a la Vyse 277 Audrey 16-Jun-14 03:32
Re: Audrey - How to photoshop a cartouche a la Vyse 385 eyeofhorus33 16-Jun-14 18:38
Re: Audrey - How to photoshop a cartouche a la Vyse 271 Audrey 23-Jun-14 03:15
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