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Creighton,

Before you presume to deliver lectures on laziness, I suggest you do the following:

Stop lazily plagiarising other people’s bad ideas. As here: Sitchin’s ‘he got it all from a book’ (with the very minor adjustment of naming Rosellini instead of Wilkinson) and the late Alan Alford’s ‘all he needed to do was find an inscription elsewhere and copy it’.

Do the work it would take to understand the issue and understand what’s being said to you. You have very plainly understood neither.

It’s already been explained to you that Rosellini misread and misattributed the name Xnmw xwfw. And which cartouche name appears most frequently in the chambers? That’s right! Xnmw xwfw, the name a forger guided by Rosellini would not have used! The name xwfw appears just once.

This before we note the presence in the chambers of the Horus name of Khufu, Hr mDdw, which no one so much as recognised as a name in 1837.

Canonically, a Horus name appears in a serekh. Whoever wrote the relevant inscriptions knew, not only that is was a name but also that such a name could appear without the serekh in a linear (horizontal) inscription. This is nontrivial knowledge: anyone who possessed it in 1837 would have a strong claim to being the leading Egyptologist of the day — and that, Creighton, would have given Vyse all the fame he could handle, without the crazy risk of resorting to forgery. Needs must not.

As for the character which tells us that these names — comprising the royal names, plus the other characters — are crew names: that wasn’t understood until the early 20th century.

All he had to do was find inscriptions and copy them . . . Yeah, right: first of all, he’d have to recognise them as the right inscriptions to copy. Brighter readers will work out how difficult that would be from what I’ve written above.

In short, Creighton, Merrell is completely right: it would have taken a time machine.

You are completely wrong, which makes your ill-mannered sarcasm (unacceptable in any case) doubly unwarranted.

M.


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Audrey - How to photoshop a cartouche a la Vyse 1172 Dr. Troglodyte 10-May-13 20:14
William Wilberforce, crook 549 Martin Stower 11-May-13 12:17
Re: William Wilberforce, crook 517 Nejc 11-May-13 16:15
Re: William Wilberforce, crook 535 Merrell 11-May-13 18:36
Re: William Wilberforce, crook 525 Scott Creighton 12-May-13 11:27
Re: William Wilberforce, crook 601 Merrell 12-May-13 22:37
Re: William Wilberforce, crook 566 Scott Creighton 13-May-13 11:03
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Re: Wilberforce, abolitionist; Vyse, 519 Scott Creighton 13-May-13 13:21
Re: Wilberforce, abolitionist; Vyse, 546 Martin Stower 13-May-13 16:14
Re: Wilberforce, abolitionist; Vyse, 431 Scott Creighton 14-May-13 09:16
Re: Wilberforce, abolitionist; Vyse, 516 Merrell 14-May-13 09:41
Re: Wilberforce, abolitionist; Vyse, 519 Scott Creighton 14-May-13 09:47
Re: Wilberforce, abolitionist; Vyse, 554 Martin Stower 15-May-13 11:18
Re: Wilberforce, abolitionist; Vyse, 626 Scott Creighton 15-May-13 12:02
Re: Wilberforce, abolitionist; Vyse, 526 Martin Stower 15-May-13 14:26
Re: Wilberforce, abolitionist; Vyse, 470 Scott Creighton 15-May-13 15:00
Re: Wilberforce, abolitionist; Vyse, 594 Martin Stower 16-May-13 09:55
Re: Wilberforce, abolitionist; Vyse, 509 Scott Creighton 16-May-13 10:04
Re: Wilberforce, abolitionist; Vyse, 505 Martin Stower 16-May-13 10:34
Re: Wilberforce, abolitionist; Vyse, 457 Scott Creighton 16-May-13 10:43
Re: Wilberforce, abolitionist; Vyse, 521 Martin Stower 16-May-13 11:00
Re: Wilberforce, abolitionist; Vyse, 587 Scott Creighton 16-May-13 11:09
Re: Wilberforce, abolitionist; Vyse, 512 Martin Stower 16-May-13 11:31
Re: Wilberforce, abolitionist; Vyse, 485 Scott Creighton 16-May-13 11:36
Re: Wilberforce, abolitionist; Vyse, 483 cladking 16-May-13 15:14
Re: What are they so afraid of? 571 Thunderbird 16-May-13 15:55
Re: What are they so afraid of? 512 cladking 16-May-13 21:40
Calling Dr. Schoch 600 Dr. Troglodyte 16-May-13 16:04
Re: Calling Dr. Schoch 581 Scott Creighton 16-May-13 16:26
Logbook doubts 504 Merrell 16-May-13 21:38
Re: Logbook doubts 554 Scott Creighton 16-May-13 22:46
Re: Logbook doubts 451 Merrell 16-May-13 23:25
Re: Logbook doubts 517 Scott Creighton 17-May-13 08:00
Re: Logbook doubts 510 Merrell 17-May-13 14:30
Re: Logbook doubts 572 Scott Creighton 17-May-13 14:56
Re: Logbook doubts 511 Martin Stower 17-May-13 16:11
Re: Logbook doubts 490 Scott Creighton 17-May-13 20:53
Re: Logbook doubts 460 MJT 17-May-13 22:31
Re: Logbook doubts 545 Merrell 18-May-13 11:23
Re: Logbook doubts 604 Scott Creighton 18-May-13 12:10
Re: Logbook doubts 636 Martin Stower 20-May-13 17:54
Re: Logbook doubts 434 Scott Creighton 21-May-13 00:20
Re: Logbook doubts 519 Morten 21-May-13 09:03
Re: Logbook doubts 563 Scott Creighton 21-May-13 10:22
Re: Logbook doubts 562 Merrell 21-May-13 10:26
Re: Logbook doubts 489 Scott Creighton 21-May-13 10:35
Re: Logbook doubts 524 Merrell 21-May-13 13:46
Re: Logbook doubts 441 Morten 21-May-13 10:40
Re: Logbook doubts 527 Scott Creighton 21-May-13 11:04
Re: Logbook doubts 536 Morten 21-May-13 11:29
Re: Logbook doubts 568 Scott Creighton 21-May-13 12:04
Re: Logbook doubts 519 Morten 21-May-13 13:19
Re: Logbook doubts 625 Scott Creighton 21-May-13 13:33
Re: Logbook doubts 519 Merrell 21-May-13 14:16
Re: Logbook doubts 522 Scott Creighton 21-May-13 14:27
Re: Logbook doubts 564 Merrell 21-May-13 23:48
Re: Logbook doubts 547 Morten 21-May-13 14:37
Re: Logbook doubts 512 Scott Creighton 21-May-13 14:54
Re: Logbook doubts 545 Morten 22-May-13 10:51
Re: Logbook doubts 573 Martin Stower 21-May-13 17:13
Re: Logbook doubts 485 Audrey 22-May-13 02:20
Re: Logbook doubts 514 Morten 22-May-13 08:18
Re: Logbook doubts 476 Martin Stower 22-May-13 15:02
Re: Logbook doubts 498 Audrey 24-May-13 01:32
Re: Logbook doubts 715 Martin Stower 24-May-13 13:43
Re: Logbook doubts 406 Audrey 24-May-13 01:10
Re: Logbook doubts 436 Scott Creighton 10-Jun-14 13:15
Re: Logbook doubts 548 eyeofhorus33 10-Jun-14 18:17
Re: Logbook doubts 536 Scott Creighton 10-Jun-14 22:01
Re: Logbook doubts 477 eyeofhorus33 10-Jun-14 22:15
Re:Khufu....Hyksos? 509 Thunderbird 11-Jun-14 01:36
Re: Logbook doubts 500 Audrey 11-Jun-14 20:47
Re: Logbook doubts 638 eyeofhorus33 11-Jun-14 22:18
Re: Logbook doubts 534 Audrey 12-Jun-14 21:22
Re: Logbook doubts 475 eyeofhorus33 12-Jun-14 22:20
Re: Logbook doubts 473 cladking 13-Jun-14 00:24
Re: Logbook doubts 458 eyeofhorus33 13-Jun-14 22:53
Re: Logbook doubts 468 cladking 13-Jun-14 23:23
Re: Logbook doubts 473 eyeofhorus33 13-Jun-14 23:48
Re: Logbook doubts 472 cladking 14-Jun-14 00:17
Re: Logbook doubts 493 Audrey 14-Jun-14 02:17
Re: Logbook doubts 547 eyeofhorus33 14-Jun-14 11:44
Re: Logbook doubts 492 cladking 14-Jun-14 15:25
context and customs 438 Audrey 14-Jun-14 19:25
Re: context and customs 434 cladking 14-Jun-14 21:23
Re: Logbook doubts 501 eyeofhorus33 14-Jun-14 21:29
Re: Logbook doubts 487 cladking 14-Jun-14 22:07
Re: Logbook doubts 478 eyeofhorus33 14-Jun-14 23:04
Re: Logbook doubts 511 cladking 15-Jun-14 00:29
Re: Logbook doubts 503 eyeofhorus33 15-Jun-14 18:35
Re: Logbook doubts 485 cladking 15-Jun-14 20:56
Re: Logbook doubts 501 eyeofhorus33 15-Jun-14 21:26
Language doubts 454 cladking 15-Jun-14 21:48
Re: Language doubts 461 eyeofhorus33 15-Jun-14 22:05
Re: Language doubts 473 cladking 15-Jun-14 22:51
Re: Language doubts 473 Audrey 16-Jun-14 04:17
Re: Language doubts 520 cladking 16-Jun-14 04:51
Re: Logbook doubts 391 cladking 12-Jun-14 22:57
Re:doubts 501 Thunderbird 11-Jun-14 23:36
Re:doubts 458 Audrey 12-Jun-14 19:54
Moderator Notice 462 Hoppy 22-May-13 01:32
Re: Logbook doubts 449 Audrey 22-May-13 02:52
Re: Logbook doubts 410 Martin Stower 18-May-13 13:37
Re: Logbook doubts 483 Scott Creighton 18-May-13 14:01
Re: Logbook doubts 467 Martin Stower 18-May-13 14:52
Re: Logbook doubts 462 Scott Creighton 18-May-13 17:16
Re: Logbook doubts 550 Martin Stower 20-May-13 16:57
Re: Logbook doubts 475 Scott Creighton 20-May-13 17:51
Re: Logbook doubts 453 Martin Stower 20-May-13 18:25
Re: Logbook doubts 331 Scott Creighton 20-May-13 18:49
Re: Logbook doubts 502 Martin Stower 21-May-13 15:42
Re: Logbook doubts 475 HungryHun 17-May-13 15:20
Re: Conspired.... 479 Thunderbird 17-May-13 15:47
Re: Conspired.... 474 HungryHun 17-May-13 16:04
Re: Conspired.... 449 Thunderbird 17-May-13 23:17
Re: Conspired....inspire d by money 511 Ratcho 03-Jun-13 05:57
Re: Logbook doubts 417 Martin Stower 17-May-13 16:23
Re: Logbook doubts 477 HungryHun 17-May-13 16:28
Re: Logbook doubts 479 Thunderbird 17-May-13 22:25
Would you buy a used cartouche from this man? 455 LonelyAngel 29-May-13 14:41
Re: Would you buy a used cartouche from this man? 435 Nejc 29-May-13 23:23
Re: Would you buy a used cartouche from this man? 449 Merrell 30-May-13 09:25
Re: Would you buy a used cartouche from this man? 504 Martin Stower 30-May-13 12:48
Re: Would you buy a used cartouche from this man? 483 WINDINWATERS 30-May-13 14:40
Re: Would you buy a used cartouche from this man? 384 Martin Stower 31-May-13 18:00
Re: Would you buy a used cartouche from this man? 443 WINDINWATERS 31-May-13 21:47
Re: Would you buy a used cartouche from this man? 430 LonelyAngel 30-May-13 17:43
Re: Would you buy a used cartouche from this man? 430 Martin Stower 31-May-13 18:24
Re: Would you buy a used cartouche from this man? 486 cladking 01-Jun-13 03:28
Re: Would you buy a used cartouche from this man? 474 Merrell 01-Jun-13 11:02
Re: Would you buy a used cartouche from this man? 419 LonelyAngel 03-Jun-13 20:59
Re: Would you buy a used cartouche from this man? 438 LonelyAngel 03-Jun-13 20:47
Re: Logbook doubts 649 Martin Stower 17-May-13 15:51
Re: Logbook doubts 480 Scott Creighton 17-May-13 20:27
Re: Logbook doubts 497 Nejc 17-May-13 22:28
Re: Logbook doubts 917 Martin Stower 18-May-13 14:43
Re: Logbook doubts 752 Scott Creighton 18-May-13 17:12
Re: Logbook doubts 549 Merrell 19-May-13 16:43
Re: Logbook doubts 485 Scott Creighton 20-May-13 09:38
Re: Logbook doubts 443 Merrell 20-May-13 13:29
Re: Logbook doubts 570 Scott Creighton 20-May-13 13:58
Re: Logbook doubts 455 Merrell 20-May-13 14:55
Re: Logbook doubts 475 Scott Creighton 20-May-13 18:46
Re: Logbook doubts 512 HungryHun 20-May-13 22:02
Re: Logbook doubts 474 Thanos5150 20-May-13 23:05
Re: Logbook doubts 491 sfbey 20-May-13 23:23
Re: Logbook doubts 479 Thanos5150 20-May-13 23:35
Re: Logbook doubts 492 sfbey 21-May-13 15:41
Moghrah 496 Merrell 21-May-13 18:09
Re: Logbook doubts 377 Scott Creighton 20-May-13 23:38
Re: Logbook doubts 400 Merrell 21-May-13 21:34
Re: Logbook doubts 412 Audrey 22-May-13 02:34
Re: Logbook doubts 456 Merrell 21-May-13 21:58
Re: Logbook doubts 477 Sirfiroth 22-May-13 10:42
Re: Logbook doubts 438 Merrell 22-May-13 11:43
Re: Logbook doubts 416 Sirfiroth 22-May-13 17:44
Re: Logbook doubts 354 Nejc 22-May-13 23:18
Re: Logbook doubts 347 cladking 23-May-13 00:51
Re: Logbook doubts 362 Merrell 23-May-13 08:41
Re: Logbook doubts 394 Martin Stower 20-May-13 19:19
Re: Logbook doubts 311 Scott Creighton 20-May-13 19:35
Re: Logbook doubts 432 Martin Stower 21-May-13 17:59
Moderator Warning 509 JonnyMcA 21-May-13 20:12
Moderator Warning 417 JonnyMcA 21-May-13 20:11
Re: exercise elementary caution about sources 384 Thunderbird 20-May-13 19:36
Re: Logbook doubts 425 Audrey 22-May-13 02:50
Re: Logbook doubts 370 Merrell 22-May-13 12:53
Re: Logbook doubts 342 Audrey 24-May-13 01:48
Moderator Caution 303 Hoppy 22-May-13 12:55
Re: Logbook doubts 304 Martin Stower 22-May-13 16:06
Re: Logbook doubts 268 Audrey 24-May-13 01:41
Re: Logbook doubts 264 Martin Stower 24-May-13 13:56
Re: Logbook doubts 253 Thunderbird 17-May-13 22:40
Re: Calling Dr. Schoch 333 Thanos5150 16-May-13 19:41
Re: Calling Dr. Schoch 298 Dr. Troglodyte 16-May-13 21:56
Re: Calling Dr. Schoch 282 Thanos5150 16-May-13 23:11
Re: Calling Dr. Schoch 266 Dr. Troglodyte 17-May-13 00:01
Re: Calling Dr. Schoch 301 Thanos5150 17-May-13 00:30
Re: Calling Dr. Schoch 269 cladking 16-May-13 21:50
Moderator Caution 314 Hoppy 15-May-13 14:09
Re: William Wilberforce, crook 234 Martin Stower 13-May-13 16:53
Re: William Wilberforce, crook 277 Scott Creighton 13-May-13 17:40
Re: William Wilberforce, crook 269 Martin Stower 13-May-13 18:32
Re: William Wilberforce, crook 278 Scott Creighton 13-May-13 19:23
Moderator Caution #2 193 Hoppy 15-May-13 14:18
Re: William Wilberforce, crook 224 Martin Stower 15-May-13 14:52
Re: Audrey - How to photoshop a cartouche a la Vyse 267 Nejc 11-May-13 13:47
Re: Audrey - How to photoshop a cartouche a la Vyse 249 JonnyMcA 11-May-13 18:41
Re: Audrey - How to photoshop a cartouche a la Vyse 255 Audrey 12-May-13 07:59
Re: Audrey - How to photoshop a cartouche a la Vyse 229 JonnyMcA 12-May-13 09:58
Re: Audrey - How to photoshop a cartouche a la Vyse 285 HungryHun 12-May-13 13:00
Re: Audrey - How to photoshop a cartouche a la Vyse 229 HungryHun 13-May-13 12:46
Re: Caviglia's complaint.... 236 Thunderbird 13-May-13 16:20
Re: Audrey - How to photoshop a cartouche a la Vyse 233 HungryHun 13-May-13 19:36
Re: Audrey - How to photoshop a cartouche a la Vyse 226 Martin Stower 15-May-13 15:04
Re: Audrey - How to photoshop a cartouche a la Vyse 221 HungryHun 16-May-13 10:03
Re: Audrey - How to photoshop a cartouche a la Vyse 233 Martin Stower 16-May-13 10:47
Re: Audrey - How to photoshop a cartouche a la Vyse 207 Merrell 16-May-13 16:33
Re: Audrey - How to photoshop a cartouche a la Vyse 233 Martin Stower 18-May-13 15:02
Re: If fake, then... what? 259 MJT 16-May-13 12:45
More Vyse wickedness 247 Martin Stower 18-May-13 15:14
Re: More Vyse wickedness 328 Scott Creighton 19-May-13 09:01
Re: More Vyse wickedness 340 Martin Stower 20-May-13 16:44
Re: More Vyse wickedness 343 Scott Creighton 20-May-13 17:56
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Re: More Vyse wickedness 352 Audrey 22-May-13 02:42
Moderator Caution 280 Hoppy 20-May-13 17:57
Re: Audrey - How to photoshop a cartouche a la Vyse 267 Audrey 14-Jun-14 21:11
Re: Audrey - How to photoshop a cartouche a la Vyse 236 cladking 14-Jun-14 21:49
Re: Audrey - How to photoshop a cartouche a la Vyse 245 Scott Creighton 15-Jun-14 00:13
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Re: Audrey - How to photoshop a cartouche a la Vyse 365 eyeofhorus33 16-Jun-14 18:38
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