drew wrote:

> In an attempt to put together a 'planning' period that the
> Great Pyramid is based upon - and just doing some tidying up of
> it these days, so will have a free release of it soon enough -
> I have come to define an actual period of time that Zep Tepi is
> based upon, stretching some 400 years on the doorstep of 12,000
> BCE. There were several instrumental astronomical observations
> that I feel were not only approached with keen observation but
> also amounted to quite singular occasions for some of these
> moments, while cyclical for others.
> With your quote of: "853c. he comes, he who wins power over the
> horizon, who wins power over the gods.", I feel that it was a
> keen observer who had a lot of knowledge about the stars and
> their positions, and also the cycles associated with them that
> was firmly and finally understood, and due to whatever omens
> might also have occurred, amounted to a quite important time
> that had to be recorded in some way. I know there is a tale
> about a 300 year time period from when a great understanding
> was made about 'signs' which was recorded as a reason for the
> building of the pyramid, which incorporates specific geometries
> and measurements defining that time period, and I feel I have a
> good presentation to make about it.
> Anyway, I guess that utterance does allude to someone back then
> actually defining the motions of the 'gods'...the stars that
> ride through the sky. With a certain understanding, then all
> manner of predictions could be made about their cycles, and
> hence win power over the horizons and the gods, and in a
> manner, control them by understanding them and predicting them.

The Egyptians invented the calender long before G1 and G2 were built. This required an enormous amount of observation for centuries as well as some probably fairly complex math. I believe the math was largely lost and that what still exists is likely more adept at solving complex problems than most of us realize. I don't know how to use it but some good work is going on in this area it seems.

The Giza site was most probably actively used for countless centuries before the pyramids were built. It appears that there are permanent structures underneath them but everything else was destroyed when the pyramids were built. How far back this habitation extended is very poorly evidenced but I'd guess it was probably no further back than 15,000 BC based on recent changes to the Great African Rift which I believe precipitated the presence of water. It really could be much older. It was probably in constant use at least since 3500 BC. This is probably the most heavily disturbed site on the face of the planet by a comfortable margin though there has been relatively little disturbance since about 2200 BC. W3g-festivals were apparently held here as late as the new kingdom but these probably relied on temporary structures.

There are several things in the PT that obviously allude to specific stars and less obviously applies specific human characteristics to them. It is my opinion that ancient people used the stars as a sort of mnemonic to remember their history which extended all the way back to the first language users 40,000 years ago. Individuals were associated with stars after they died and their primary characteristics or their feature that led to them being remembered was associated with specific stars and stories told of how they were tied together. In other words it wasn't merely "gods" which were anthropomorphized but the entire universe from the number of heartbeats in a minute to the stars themselves. Natural processes and everything men knew were assigned human characteristics and these human characteristics could have animal faces because even animals were human and humans were animals. We are misinterpreting everything about ancient people.

I agree that it's entirely possible that an event or an individual from 12,000 BC could well be immortalized in the layout of Giza, the air shafts, or almost anything at all. Some important event may well be staring us in the face but until we do the science to determine facts all any of us have are deductions and guesses. Anyone might be right in whole or in part.

The specific line you quote does likely contain the implications you suggest but I doubt it was the intended meaning.

-edited to add though, that I am increasingly confident that zep tepi is a remembered or a mythological time of atum's first eruption. While there are few clues they all seem quite determinative. If there were geysers then there is about a 90% probabilty that zep tepi is a remembering of the first time water sprayed in the "Land of Rainbows" (probably at Saqqara).







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Post Edited (20-Dec-13 22:12)