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Scott Creighton wrote:

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GR: No Scott, hundreds of your posts show conclusively
> that you are greatly inhibited in your ability to tell. Hence
> your total confusion over Khufu and your made up King
> Raufu.
>
> SC: Made up "King Raufu"? No, Greg - that is what the evidence
> tells me. YOU say the disc in the "Khufu" cartouche at Abydos
> is unfinished, that it would have been painted in order to
> differentiate it from the plain sun disc. Tell me then, Greg -
> how exactly do you use paint to differentiate the "Kh" meaning
> into a king's official seal? And Greg - what do you think,
> logically, would be the best, simplest and most unambiguous way
> of rendering "Kh" into a seal impression from such a seal?

There is no evidence for Raufu. It is a figment of your imagination from your misinterpretation of the hieroglyphs from your total lack of understanding.

The seal is tiny and inscription is not as big as the cartouches on Seneb's family group.

See the cartouche for Djedefre on the left. The sun disc has a dot in it. See the cartouche for Khufu on the right. It has no dot nor paint. Plain circle, exactly like on the seal but bigger. It is not Raufu is it? Exactly like on the seal. It is the kh for Khufu plus it was carved after Khufu was dead. No Raufu. It says Khufu.
The ancient Egyptian weren't confused Scott. It is you who are confused.
Djedfere put a dot in his disc. Where is even one cartouche for your Raufu with a dot in it? Where is your photographic evidence for one dot in the supposed name Raufu?

> We already know - from Sher's research - that "ufu" or "oufou"
> menas "horizon".

You and Sher are comparing the English spelling of an ancient Egyptian hieroglyph with the English spelling of an Arabic word and telling us what?


Khufu does not mean horizon. Ufu is not ancient Egyptian. Do you know what Khufu means Scott? Bet you don't.

> Khufu - Basket of the Horizon.
>
> Or...
>
> Raufu - Sun God of the Horizon.

No such word in ancient Egypt. Another of your inventions. Ufu does not exist as a word in ancient Egypt. Ufu does not exist as a seperate entity in the name Khufu either.

> Given the theory of Dr Hawass that Khufu 'annointed' himself as
> the god Ra during his lifetime, I think the odds are pretty
> good that the plain idsc in Khufu's name is indeed the sun disc
> of "Ra" and NOT the basket glyph.

If he changed his name to Raufu why does it say Khufu on Seneb ?
Carved after he died. If his name had been changed why is he called Khufu?


> You have done nothing here, I'm afraid, to convince me of your
> case.
>
> Regards,
>
> SC

And you have done nothing but make things up from your bone dry reservoir of knowledge about the language of the ancient Egyptians.

Here: "SC: Er - let me make this perfectly clear to you so that there is no misunderstanding. I know precisely ZILCH about AE script and make no pretensions otherwise! I probably never will study it in any detail. It's just not my field of interest."[www.grahamhancock.com]

That says it all.

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"Khufu" = "Horizon" (Explained) 1785 Scott Creighton 07-Feb-10 10:32
Re: "Khufu" = "Horizon" (Explained) 534 magisterchessmutt 07-Feb-10 10:57
Re: "Khufu" = "Horizon" (Explained) 494 Modeh 07-Feb-10 12:22
Re: "Khufu" = "Horizon" (Explained) 438 Gary Osborn 07-Feb-10 13:33
aa-1 hieroglyph 472 Norman Frey 07-Feb-10 14:16
Akhet=catare+Khufu=foc..."shooting/reaching for the stars?" 473 Absinthujone 07-Feb-10 15:29
Re: Akhet=catare+Khufu=foc..."shooting/reaching for the stars?" 507 Absinthujone 07-Feb-10 15:36
Re: Akhet=catare+Khufu=foc..."shooting/reaching for the stars?" 495 Absinthujone 07-Feb-10 15:40
Re: Akhet=catare+Khufu=foc..."shooting/reaching for the stars?" 483 Absinthujone 07-Feb-10 15:43
Re: Akhet=catare+Khufu=foc..."shooting/reaching for the stars?" 485 Modeh 08-Feb-10 03:24
Re: Akhet=catare+Khufu=foc..."shooting/reaching for the stars?" 482 Joyeuse 08-Feb-10 17:05
Re: aa-1 hieroglyph 506 Scott Creighton 08-Feb-10 00:21
Hmmm 485 Morph 08-Feb-10 09:30
Re: Hmmm 456 Morph 08-Feb-10 09:37
Re: "Khufu" = "Horizon" (Explained) 446 Raja 07-Feb-10 14:58
Re: "Khufu" = "Horizon" (Explained) 426 Lothur 07-Feb-10 17:52
Re: "Khufu" = "Horizon" (Explained) 499 Scott Creighton 13-Feb-10 16:29
Re: "Khufu" = "Horizon" (Explained) 518 sfbey 13-Feb-10 16:55
Re: "Khufu" = "Horizon" (Explained) 502 Scott Creighton 13-Feb-10 17:32
Re: "Khufu" = "Horizon" (Explained) 448 sfbey 13-Feb-10 17:53
Re: "Khufu" = "Horizon" (Explained) 474 Scott Creighton 13-Feb-10 19:10
Re: "Khufu" = "Horizon" (Explained) 483 Lothur 14-Feb-10 02:03
Re: "Khufu" = "Horizon" (Explained) 498 Scott Creighton 14-Feb-10 12:04
Re: "Khufu" = "Horizon" (Explained) 480 Modeh 14-Feb-10 13:45
Re: "Khufu" = "Horizon" (Explained) 428 Lothur 14-Feb-10 16:08
Re: Well Done Scott : ) 463 Thunderbird 07-Feb-10 18:49
Re: "Khufu" = "Horizon" (Explained) 501 Audrey 08-Feb-10 01:32
Re: "Khufu" = "Horizon" (Explained) 1125 Nullenvoid 08-Feb-10 02:33
Re: "Khufu" = "Horizon" (Explained) 461 Scott Creighton 08-Feb-10 10:15
Re: "Khufu" = "Horizon" (Explained) 470 sher 08-Feb-10 14:52
Re: "Khufu" = "Horizon" (Explained) 479 Absinthujone 08-Feb-10 15:47
"Khufu" = "Horizon"..."Keftiu"="Crete"? 620 Absinthujone 08-Feb-10 05:16
Re: "Khufu" = "Horizon" (Explained) 397 Scott Creighton 08-Feb-10 13:07
Re: "Khufu" = "Horizon" (Explained) 515 Martin Stower 08-Feb-10 15:18
Re: "Khufu" = "Horizon" (Explained) 440 paxton 11-Feb-10 23:13
Re: "Khufu" = "Horizon" (Explained) 468 David L 16-Feb-10 17:51
Re: "Khufu" = "Horizon" (Explained) 444 Richard Ford 26-Feb-10 21:01
Re: "Khufu" = "Horizon" (Explained) 459 Scott Creighton 27-Feb-10 11:26
Re: "Khufu" = "Horizon" (Explained) 426 fisherman 28-Feb-10 17:54
Re: "Khufu" = "Horizon" (Explained) 482 Richard Ford 01-Mar-10 02:17
Re: "Khufu" = "Horizon" (Explained) 454 fisherman 03-Mar-10 17:15
Re: "Khufu" = "Horizon" (Explained) 563 Dr. Troglodyte 03-Mar-10 17:23
Re: "Khufu" = "Horizon" (Explained) 475 fisherman 03-Mar-10 18:32
Re: "Khufu" = "Horizon" (Explained) 455 Harry Sivertsen 10-Mar-10 22:53
Re: "Khufu" = "Horizon" (Explained) 442 Scott Creighton 10-Mar-10 23:03
Re: "Khufu" = "Horizon" (Explained) 501 Harry Sivertsen 11-Mar-10 09:05
Re: "Khufu" = "Horizon" (Explained) 441 Scott Creighton 11-Mar-10 09:42
Re: "Khufu" = "Horizon" (Explained) 422 Jon B 12-Mar-10 10:19
Re: "Khufu" = "Horizon" (Explained) 530 Harry Sivertsen 12-Mar-10 10:34
Re: "Khufu" = "Horizon" (Explained) 542 Jon B 12-Mar-10 11:24
Re: "Khufu" = "Horizon" (Explained) 464 Scott Creighton 12-Mar-10 12:03
Re: "Khufu" = "Horizon" (Explained) 446 Harry Sivertsen 12-Mar-10 12:31
Re: "Khufu" = "Horizon" (Explained) 450 Morten 12-Mar-10 11:11
Re: "Khufu" = "Horizon" (Explained) 460 Harry Sivertsen 12-Mar-10 16:19
Re: "Khufu" = "Horizon" (Explained) 479 Scott Creighton 12-Mar-10 11:56
Re: "Khufu" = "Horizon" (Explained) 449 Harry Sivertsen 12-Mar-10 12:41
Re: "Khufu" = "Horizon" (Explained) 473 Morten 12-Mar-10 14:54
Re: "Khufu" = "Horizon" (Explained) 420 Scott Creighton 12-Mar-10 15:53
Re: "Khufu" = "Horizon" (Explained) 470 Morten 12-Mar-10 18:31
Re: "Khufu" = "Horizon" (Explained) 495 Scott Creighton 12-Mar-10 18:58
Re: "Khufu" = "Horizon" (Explained) 380 Morten 12-Mar-10 19:38
Re: "Khufu" = "Horizon" (Explained) 490 Harry Sivertsen 12-Mar-10 21:22
Re: "Khufu" = "Horizon" (Explained) 485 Morten 12-Mar-10 22:20
Re: "Khufu" = "Horizon" (Explained) 522 Scott Creighton 12-Mar-10 23:25
Re: "Khufu" = "Horizon" (Explained) 417 Morten 13-Mar-10 08:39
Re: "Khufu" = "Horizon" (Explained) 453 Scott Creighton 13-Mar-10 09:11
Re: "Khufu" = "Horizon" (Explained) 504 Morten 14-Mar-10 13:28
Re: "Khufu" = "Horizon" (Explained) 498 Morten 15-Mar-10 12:22
Re: "Khufu" = "Horizon" (Explained) 470 Harry Sivertsen 13-Mar-10 08:22
Re: "Khufu" = "Horizon" (Explained) 423 Morten 13-Mar-10 09:23
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Re: Several thousand reasons why Scott is wrong 469 Scott Creighton 13-Mar-10 11:12
Re: Several thousand reasons why Scott is wrong 481 sfbey 13-Mar-10 16:34
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Re: Several thousand reasons why Scott is wrong 424 sfbey 13-Mar-10 17:45
Re: Several thousand reasons why Scott is wrong 488 Scott Creighton 13-Mar-10 19:57
Re: Several thousand reasons why Scott is wrong 444 sfbey 13-Mar-10 20:25
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Re: Several thousand and one reasons why Scott is wrong 476 Scott Creighton 14-Mar-10 11:46
Re: Several thousand and one reasons why Scott is wrong 459 sfbey 14-Mar-10 17:24
Re: Several thousand and one reasons why Scott is wrong 497 Scott Creighton 14-Mar-10 18:57
Re: Several thousand and one reasons why Scott is wrong 496 Harry Sivertsen 14-Mar-10 20:52
Re: Several thousand and one reasons why Scott is wrong 459 Scott Creighton 14-Mar-10 21:58
Re: Several thousand and one reasons why Scott is wrong 406 Harry Sivertsen 14-Mar-10 22:20
Re: Several thousand and one reasons why Scott is wrong 429 sfbey 14-Mar-10 22:54
Re: Several thousand and one reasons why Scott is wrong 372 Jon B 15-Mar-10 08:44
Re: Several thousand and one reasons why Scott is wrong 503 Scott Creighton 15-Mar-10 18:59
Re: Several thousand and one reasons why Scott is wrong 550 Jon B 15-Mar-10 19:35
A Simple Reason Why Scott Might be Right 634 Scott Creighton 15-Mar-10 21:57
Re: A Simple Reason Why Scott Might be Right 424 Jon B 16-Mar-10 07:12
Re: A Simple Reason Why Scott Might be Right 463 Jon B 16-Mar-10 09:51
Re: A Simple Reason Why Scott Might be Right 501 Scott Creighton 16-Mar-10 11:18
Re: A Simple Reason Why Scott Might be Right 431 Jon B 16-Mar-10 12:58
Re: A Simple Reason Why Scott Might be Right 467 Harry Sivertsen 17-Mar-10 14:49
Re: A Simple Reason Why Scott Might be Right 536 Merrell 22-Mar-10 15:12
Re: Several thousand and one reasons why Scott is wrong 458 cladking 15-Mar-10 22:04
Re: Several thousand and one reasons why Scott is wrong 541 Merrell 16-Mar-10 14:42
Re: Several thousand and one reasons why Scott is wrong 471 Harry Sivertsen 16-Mar-10 15:08
Re: Several thousand and one reasons why Scott is wrong 482 sher 15-Mar-10 01:47
Re: Several thousand and one reasons why Scott is wrong 489 sfbey 15-Mar-10 02:29
Re: Several thousand and one reasons why Scott is wrong 483 sher 15-Mar-10 02:54
Re: Several thousand and one reasons why Scott is wrong 447 sfbey 15-Mar-10 03:23
Re: Several thousand and one reasons why Scott is wrong 442 sher 15-Mar-10 05:07
Then again,.. 387 sher 15-Mar-10 05:11
Re: Several thousand and one reasons why Scott is wrong 500 Jon B 15-Mar-10 16:21
Re: Several thousand and one reasons why Scott is wrong 474 Harry Sivertsen 15-Mar-10 09:47
Re: Several thousand and one reasons why Scott is wrong 413 Harry Sivertsen 15-Mar-10 10:25
Re: Several thousand and one reasons why Scott is wrong 415 sher 15-Mar-10 15:19
Re: Several thousand and one reasons why Scott is wrong 402 Harry Sivertsen 15-Mar-10 15:47
Re: Several thousand reasons why Scott is wrong 422 Harry Sivertsen 13-Mar-10 13:26
Champollion 437 Jon B 13-Mar-10 17:44
Another quote 442 Jon B 13-Mar-10 20:25
Aa1 and N5 470 Jon B 14-Mar-10 12:48
Re: Aa1 and N5 479 sher 14-Mar-10 13:38
Re: Aa1 and N5 424 sher 14-Mar-10 13:41
Re: Aa1 and N5 378 sher 14-Mar-10 14:01
Re: Aa1 and N5 423 Scott Creighton 14-Mar-10 16:10
Scott, Champollion? 518 Dr. Troglodyte 14-Mar-10 21:13
Re: Scott, Champollion? 474 Scott Creighton 14-Mar-10 21:31
Aa1 in colour 563 Jon B 14-Mar-10 23:47
Re: Aa1 in colour - Ra with Green Sunset 513 Scott Creighton 15-Mar-10 01:00
Re: Aa1 in colour - Ra with Green Sunset 458 Gary Osborn 15-Mar-10 17:05
Re: Aa1 in colour - Ra with Green Sunset 452 Scott Creighton 15-Mar-10 18:02
Re: Aa1 in colour - Ra with Green Sunset 439 Morten 15-Mar-10 18:18
Re: Aa1 in colour - Ra with Green Sunset 452 Scott Creighton 15-Mar-10 18:40
Re: Aa1 in colour - Ra with Green Sunset 459 Harry Sivertsen 15-Mar-10 18:53
Re: Aa1 in colour - Ra with Green Sunset 437 Gary Osborn 15-Mar-10 20:33
Re: Aa1 in colour - Ra with Green Sunset 479 Gary Osborn 15-Mar-10 20:40
Re: Aa1 in colour - Ra with Green Sunset 388 Scott Creighton 15-Mar-10 21:22
Re: Aa1 in colour - Ra with Green Sunset 446 Gary Osborn 15-Mar-10 21:36
Re: Aa1 in colour - Ra with Green Sunset 456 sfbey 15-Mar-10 21:52
Re: Aa1 in colour - Ra with Green Sunset 448 Scott Creighton 15-Mar-10 22:06
Re: Aa1 in colour - Ra with Green Sunset 458 sfbey 15-Mar-10 22:08
Re: Aa1 in colour - Ra with Green Sunset 414 Morten 15-Mar-10 22:16
RA,..RAa,...RAh 472 sher 15-Mar-10 03:18
Re: RA,..RAa,...RAh 494 sher 15-Mar-10 06:54
I agree with Scott,... 408 sher 19-Mar-10 19:21


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