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Warwick wrote:

> it is an insult to imply that anyone who does say "I think
> they could have used ramps" is not basing that conclusion on
> their understanding of the eivdcen rather than belief
>

Individually this is true but I rarely apply it individually. Collectively egyptology has been seeking proof of ramps for 150 years and have believed in them as long. It's this collective belief I rail against. It's the assumption that they could "only have been built with ramps" that is the problem.

Individually people in the field have different ideas. Even ramp proponents usually will believe that their idea is built on a solid foundation. They can point to extensive evidence for ramps and most have no reason to doubt they could have been used. But people who believed in a flat earth or the earth as the center of the universe had the evidence of their own eyes. Common sense says that man is the pinnacle of creation and the universe revolves around him.

Of course the pyramids were built with ramps. It's not like there were any aliens or our ancestors would have all been aghast.



Man fears the pyramid, time fears man.

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Little Room For Khufu's Ramp.... 353 Scott Creighton 05-Feb-10 12:31
Re: Little Room For Khufu's Ramp.... 272 Scott Creighton 05-Feb-10 15:41
Re: Little Room For Khufu's Ramp.... 245 cladking 05-Feb-10 17:01
Re: Little Room For Khufu's Ramp.... 203 sher 05-Feb-10 17:37
Re: Little Room For Khufu's Ramp.... 225 Scott Creighton 05-Feb-10 18:27
Re: Little Room For Khufu's Ramp.... 273 papalou 05-Feb-10 18:36
Re: Little Room For Khufu's Ramp.... 294 sher 05-Feb-10 19:23
Re: Little Room For Khufu's Ramp.... 285 cladking 05-Feb-10 20:16
Re: Little Room For Khufu's Ramp.... 241 sher 05-Feb-10 21:44
Re: Little Room For Khufu's Ramp.... 242 cladking 05-Feb-10 21:59
Re: Little Room For Khufu's Ramp.... 217 sher 05-Feb-10 22:22
Re: Little Room For Khufu's Ramp.... 258 cladking 05-Feb-10 22:57
Re: Little Room For Khufu's Ramp.... 227 sher 05-Feb-10 23:20
Re: Little Room For Khufu's Ramp.... 271 cladking 05-Feb-10 23:34
Re: Little Room For Khufu's Ramp.... 271 sher 05-Feb-10 23:55
Re: Little Room For Khufu's Ramp.... 282 papalou 06-Feb-10 02:09
Re: Little Room For Khufu's Ramp.... 239 cladking 06-Feb-10 02:48
Re: Little Room For Khufu's Ramp.... 223 sher 06-Feb-10 06:47
Re: Little Room For Khufu's Ramp.... 264 David L 06-Feb-10 20:26
Re: Little Room For Khufu's Ramp.... 224 cladking 05-Feb-10 20:09
Re: Little Room For Khufu's Ramp.... 285 Warwick 05-Feb-10 20:11
Re: Little Room For Khufu's Ramp.... 205 cladking 05-Feb-10 20:20
Re: Little Room For Khufu's Ramp.... 232 Warwick 05-Feb-10 20:43
Re: Little Room For Khufu's Ramp.... 200 cladking 05-Feb-10 20:48
Re: Little Room For Khufu's Ramp.... 205 Warwick 05-Feb-10 20:51
Re: Little Room For Khufu's Ramp.... 280 Jon B 05-Feb-10 18:40
Re: Little Room For Khufu's Ramp.... 265 Scott Creighton 05-Feb-10 19:00
Re: Little Room For Khufu's Ramp.... 217 Jon B 05-Feb-10 19:12
Re: Little Room For Khufu's Ramp.... 227 Warwick 05-Feb-10 19:17
Re: Little Room For Khufu's Ramp.... 190 cladking 05-Feb-10 20:27
Re: Little Room For Khufu's Ramp.... 262 Scott Creighton 05-Feb-10 19:57
Re: Little Room For Khufu's Ramp.... 190 Warwick 05-Feb-10 20:04
Re: Little Room For Khufu's Ramp.... 263 Jon B 05-Feb-10 20:21
Re: Little Room For Khufu's Ramp.... 283 cladking 05-Feb-10 20:31
Re: Little Room For Khufu's Ramp.... 255 Jon B 05-Feb-10 20:37
Re: Little Room For Khufu's Ramp.... 278 cladking 05-Feb-10 20:58
Re: Little Room For Khufu's Ramp.... 235 Scott Creighton 05-Feb-10 20:45
Re: Little Room For Khufu's Ramp.... 245 cladking 05-Feb-10 20:26
Re: Little Room For Khufu's Ramp.... 277 Jon B 05-Feb-10 21:28
Re: Little Room For Khufu's Ramp.... 247 Warwick 06-Feb-10 18:20
Re: Little Room For Khufu's Ramp.... 237 cladking 06-Feb-10 22:32
Re: Little Room For Khufu's Ramp.... 278 Jon B 07-Feb-10 11:48
Re: Little Room For Khufu's Ramp.... 252 cladking 07-Feb-10 16:39
sigh.... 207 Warwick 05-Feb-10 19:15
Re: Little Room For Khufu's Ramp.... 245 cladking 05-Feb-10 20:25
Re: Little Room For Khufu's Ramp.... 196 Warwick 05-Feb-10 20:48
Re: Little Room For Khufu's Ramp.... 273 cladking 05-Feb-10 21:11
trying to get the thread back on topic 252 Warwick 06-Feb-10 18:16
Re: trying to get the thread back on topic 243 cladking 06-Feb-10 22:37
ONE MORE TRY...... 247 Warwick 07-Feb-10 16:26
Re: ONE MORE TRY...... 243 cladking 07-Feb-10 16:43
Re: ONE MORE TRY...... 235 Warwick 07-Feb-10 18:45
Re: ONE MORE TRY...... 223 cladking 07-Feb-10 19:00
Re: ONE MORE TRY...... 236 Warwick 08-Feb-10 17:30
Re: ONE MORE TRY...... 197 cladking 08-Feb-10 21:47
Re: ONE MORE TRY...... 274 Jon B 08-Feb-10 22:17
Re: ONE MORE TRY...... 211 cladking 08-Feb-10 22:52
Re: ONE MORE TRY...... 229 Jon B 09-Feb-10 08:21
Re: ONE MORE TRY...... 278 cladking 09-Feb-10 16:47
Re: ONE MORE TRY...... 287 Warwick 09-Feb-10 16:05
Re: ONE MORE TRY...... 280 cladking 09-Feb-10 16:33
Re: ONE MORE TRY...... 223 Warwick 09-Feb-10 17:25
Re: ONE MORE TRY...... 208 cladking 09-Feb-10 17:36
I found the external Ramp 229 sher 09-Feb-10 20:32
Re: I found the external Ramp 282 cladking 09-Feb-10 21:01
Re: I found the external Ramp 182 sher 09-Feb-10 21:59
Re: Little Room For Khufu's Ramp.... 217 Warwick 05-Feb-10 19:33
Re: Little Room For Khufu's Ramp.... 226 cladking 05-Feb-10 20:35
Re: Little Room For Khufu's Ramp.... 282 cladking 05-Feb-10 20:13
Re: Little Room For Khufu's Ramp.... 200 Warwick 05-Feb-10 18:59
FTR 250 Warwick 05-Feb-10 19:08
Re: Little Room For Khufu's Ramp.... 200 cladking 05-Feb-10 20:43
Re: Little Room For Khufu's Ramp.... 230 carolb 05-Feb-10 20:17
Re: Little Room For Khufu's Ramp.... 229 Warwick 05-Feb-10 20:22
Re: Little Room For Khufu's Ramp.... 208 carolb 05-Feb-10 20:41
Re: Little Room For Khufu's Ramp.... 269 cladking 05-Feb-10 21:03
Re: Little Room For Khufu's Ramp.... 266 Jon B 05-Feb-10 20:31
Re: Little Room For Khufu's Ramp.... 187 carolb 05-Feb-10 20:42
Re: Little Room For Khufu's Ramp.... 215 Scott Creighton 05-Feb-10 20:54
Re: Little Room For Khufu's Ramp.... 233 carolb 05-Feb-10 20:56
Re: Little Room For Khufu's Ramp.... 258 cladking 05-Feb-10 21:00
Re: Little Room For Khufu's Ramp.... 186 carolb 05-Feb-10 21:02
Re: Little Room For Khufu's Ramp.... 245 Scott Creighton 05-Feb-10 21:04
Re: Little Room For Khufu's Ramp.... 249 cladking 05-Feb-10 21:07
Re: Little Room For Khufu's Ramp.... 203 Scott Creighton 05-Feb-10 21:17
Re: Little Room For Khufu's Ramp.... 282 cladking 05-Feb-10 22:08
Re: Little Room For Khufu's Ramp.... 265 michael seabrook 06-Feb-10 00:05
Re: Little Room For Khufu's Ramp.... 268 Elizabeth Newton 06-Feb-10 07:48
Re: Little Room For Khufu's Ramp.... 243 Scott Creighton 06-Feb-10 12:16
Re: Little Room For Khufu's Ramp.... 268 Elizabeth Newton 07-Feb-10 16:26
Re: Little Room For Khufu's Ramp.... 188 Rob Miller 07-Feb-10 16:30
Re: Little Room For Khufu's Ramp.... 187 Elizabeth Newton 08-Feb-10 04:01
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Re: Old Kingdom Tyrants? 240 Titus Livius 07-Feb-10 12:38
Re: Old Kingdom Tyrants? 279 sher 07-Feb-10 14:09
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Re: Old Kingdom Tyrants? 296 Drewski 07-Feb-10 12:58
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Re: Little Room For Khufu's Ramp.... 252 Titus Livius 06-Feb-10 09:37
Re: Little Room For Khufu's Ramp.... 268 Archae Solenhofen 06-Feb-10 18:50
Re: Little Room For Khufu's Ramp.... 251 Susan Doris 06-Feb-10 19:02
Re: Little Room For Khufu's Ramp.... 252 cladking 06-Feb-10 22:51
Some photos 262 Jon B 06-Feb-10 10:53
Re: Some photos 176 sher 06-Feb-10 12:20
Re: Some photos 178 Jon B 06-Feb-10 12:46
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Re: Uhmmm,... 246 Jon B 06-Feb-10 12:48
Re: Uhmmm,... 201 sher 06-Feb-10 12:54
Re: Uhmmm,... 212 Jon B 06-Feb-10 12:56
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