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Jon B wrote:

> Nonsense...
>
> "Close to the north end of the west side of the unfinished
> pyramid of Sekhemkhet at Saqqara, a huge construction ramp was
> partially excavated by Zakaria Ghoneim. It was preserved above
> the first step of the pyramid. Its slightly sloping side face
> was rather crudely made of rough fieldstones. It approached the
> pyramid at a right angle from the quarries in the west and led
> over unfinished masonry directly into the centre of the
> pyramid."
>
> "At the small, unfinished pyramid of the Third Dynasty at Sinki
> four ramps lead from all sides against the inclined faces of
> the pyramid. Each ramp is 12 metres long and has an angle of
> about 12 to 15 degrees..." (Building in Egypt - Dieter Arnold
> p.80-81)
>
> I would add to those two the ramp still in situ at Karnak and
> there are others that show that ramps certainly were "in the
> culture".

There's really no question that whatsoever that ramps and inclined planes are a convenient way to change the level of an object. This has always been true and always will be true in at least some applications.

The question isn't were the Egyptians smart enough to use ramps to move objects the question is how did the Egyptians raise stones to build the great pyramids and the claims stand. There is no evidence they could have been used to buildf the great pyramids and no evidence that they were. If these projects were made with ramps then there should be an extensive cultural record of ramps and instead we have a vacuum. There also shoulsd be extensive and massive physical evidence for ramps and instead there is massive evidence that there were no ramps.



Man fears the pyramid, time fears man.

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Little Room For Khufu's Ramp.... 354 Scott Creighton 05-Feb-10 12:31
Re: Little Room For Khufu's Ramp.... 272 Scott Creighton 05-Feb-10 15:41
Re: Little Room For Khufu's Ramp.... 245 cladking 05-Feb-10 17:01
Re: Little Room For Khufu's Ramp.... 203 sher 05-Feb-10 17:37
Re: Little Room For Khufu's Ramp.... 226 Scott Creighton 05-Feb-10 18:27
Re: Little Room For Khufu's Ramp.... 273 papalou 05-Feb-10 18:36
Re: Little Room For Khufu's Ramp.... 294 sher 05-Feb-10 19:23
Re: Little Room For Khufu's Ramp.... 285 cladking 05-Feb-10 20:16
Re: Little Room For Khufu's Ramp.... 242 sher 05-Feb-10 21:44
Re: Little Room For Khufu's Ramp.... 243 cladking 05-Feb-10 21:59
Re: Little Room For Khufu's Ramp.... 218 sher 05-Feb-10 22:22
Re: Little Room For Khufu's Ramp.... 258 cladking 05-Feb-10 22:57
Re: Little Room For Khufu's Ramp.... 228 sher 05-Feb-10 23:20
Re: Little Room For Khufu's Ramp.... 272 cladking 05-Feb-10 23:34
Re: Little Room For Khufu's Ramp.... 272 sher 05-Feb-10 23:55
Re: Little Room For Khufu's Ramp.... 282 papalou 06-Feb-10 02:09
Re: Little Room For Khufu's Ramp.... 239 cladking 06-Feb-10 02:48
Re: Little Room For Khufu's Ramp.... 223 sher 06-Feb-10 06:47
Re: Little Room For Khufu's Ramp.... 264 David L 06-Feb-10 20:26
Re: Little Room For Khufu's Ramp.... 224 cladking 05-Feb-10 20:09
Re: Little Room For Khufu's Ramp.... 285 Warwick 05-Feb-10 20:11
Re: Little Room For Khufu's Ramp.... 205 cladking 05-Feb-10 20:20
Re: Little Room For Khufu's Ramp.... 232 Warwick 05-Feb-10 20:43
Re: Little Room For Khufu's Ramp.... 200 cladking 05-Feb-10 20:48
Re: Little Room For Khufu's Ramp.... 205 Warwick 05-Feb-10 20:51
Re: Little Room For Khufu's Ramp.... 280 Jon B 05-Feb-10 18:40
Re: Little Room For Khufu's Ramp.... 265 Scott Creighton 05-Feb-10 19:00
Re: Little Room For Khufu's Ramp.... 217 Jon B 05-Feb-10 19:12
Re: Little Room For Khufu's Ramp.... 227 Warwick 05-Feb-10 19:17
Re: Little Room For Khufu's Ramp.... 190 cladking 05-Feb-10 20:27
Re: Little Room For Khufu's Ramp.... 262 Scott Creighton 05-Feb-10 19:57
Re: Little Room For Khufu's Ramp.... 191 Warwick 05-Feb-10 20:04
Re: Little Room For Khufu's Ramp.... 263 Jon B 05-Feb-10 20:21
Re: Little Room For Khufu's Ramp.... 284 cladking 05-Feb-10 20:31
Re: Little Room For Khufu's Ramp.... 255 Jon B 05-Feb-10 20:37
Re: Little Room For Khufu's Ramp.... 278 cladking 05-Feb-10 20:58
Re: Little Room For Khufu's Ramp.... 235 Scott Creighton 05-Feb-10 20:45
Re: Little Room For Khufu's Ramp.... 245 cladking 05-Feb-10 20:26
Re: Little Room For Khufu's Ramp.... 278 Jon B 05-Feb-10 21:28
Re: Little Room For Khufu's Ramp.... 248 Warwick 06-Feb-10 18:20
Re: Little Room For Khufu's Ramp.... 237 cladking 06-Feb-10 22:32
Re: Little Room For Khufu's Ramp.... 278 Jon B 07-Feb-10 11:48
Re: Little Room For Khufu's Ramp.... 252 cladking 07-Feb-10 16:39
sigh.... 207 Warwick 05-Feb-10 19:15
Re: Little Room For Khufu's Ramp.... 245 cladking 05-Feb-10 20:25
Re: Little Room For Khufu's Ramp.... 196 Warwick 05-Feb-10 20:48
Re: Little Room For Khufu's Ramp.... 274 cladking 05-Feb-10 21:11
trying to get the thread back on topic 252 Warwick 06-Feb-10 18:16
Re: trying to get the thread back on topic 243 cladking 06-Feb-10 22:37
ONE MORE TRY...... 247 Warwick 07-Feb-10 16:26
Re: ONE MORE TRY...... 243 cladking 07-Feb-10 16:43
Re: ONE MORE TRY...... 235 Warwick 07-Feb-10 18:45
Re: ONE MORE TRY...... 223 cladking 07-Feb-10 19:00
Re: ONE MORE TRY...... 237 Warwick 08-Feb-10 17:30
Re: ONE MORE TRY...... 197 cladking 08-Feb-10 21:47
Re: ONE MORE TRY...... 275 Jon B 08-Feb-10 22:17
Re: ONE MORE TRY...... 212 cladking 08-Feb-10 22:52
Re: ONE MORE TRY...... 229 Jon B 09-Feb-10 08:21
Re: ONE MORE TRY...... 279 cladking 09-Feb-10 16:47
Re: ONE MORE TRY...... 288 Warwick 09-Feb-10 16:05
Re: ONE MORE TRY...... 282 cladking 09-Feb-10 16:33
Re: ONE MORE TRY...... 224 Warwick 09-Feb-10 17:25
Re: ONE MORE TRY...... 208 cladking 09-Feb-10 17:36
I found the external Ramp 229 sher 09-Feb-10 20:32
Re: I found the external Ramp 282 cladking 09-Feb-10 21:01
Re: I found the external Ramp 182 sher 09-Feb-10 21:59
Re: Little Room For Khufu's Ramp.... 217 Warwick 05-Feb-10 19:33
Re: Little Room For Khufu's Ramp.... 226 cladking 05-Feb-10 20:35
Re: Little Room For Khufu's Ramp.... 282 cladking 05-Feb-10 20:13
Re: Little Room For Khufu's Ramp.... 201 Warwick 05-Feb-10 18:59
FTR 250 Warwick 05-Feb-10 19:08
Re: Little Room For Khufu's Ramp.... 200 cladking 05-Feb-10 20:43
Re: Little Room For Khufu's Ramp.... 230 carolb 05-Feb-10 20:17
Re: Little Room For Khufu's Ramp.... 229 Warwick 05-Feb-10 20:22
Re: Little Room For Khufu's Ramp.... 208 carolb 05-Feb-10 20:41
Re: Little Room For Khufu's Ramp.... 269 cladking 05-Feb-10 21:03
Re: Little Room For Khufu's Ramp.... 266 Jon B 05-Feb-10 20:31
Re: Little Room For Khufu's Ramp.... 187 carolb 05-Feb-10 20:42
Re: Little Room For Khufu's Ramp.... 215 Scott Creighton 05-Feb-10 20:54
Re: Little Room For Khufu's Ramp.... 233 carolb 05-Feb-10 20:56
Re: Little Room For Khufu's Ramp.... 258 cladking 05-Feb-10 21:00
Re: Little Room For Khufu's Ramp.... 186 carolb 05-Feb-10 21:02
Re: Little Room For Khufu's Ramp.... 245 Scott Creighton 05-Feb-10 21:04
Re: Little Room For Khufu's Ramp.... 250 cladking 05-Feb-10 21:07
Re: Little Room For Khufu's Ramp.... 203 Scott Creighton 05-Feb-10 21:17
Re: Little Room For Khufu's Ramp.... 283 cladking 05-Feb-10 22:08
Re: Little Room For Khufu's Ramp.... 265 michael seabrook 06-Feb-10 00:05
Re: Little Room For Khufu's Ramp.... 268 Elizabeth Newton 06-Feb-10 07:48
Re: Little Room For Khufu's Ramp.... 243 Scott Creighton 06-Feb-10 12:16
Re: Little Room For Khufu's Ramp.... 268 Elizabeth Newton 07-Feb-10 16:26
Re: Little Room For Khufu's Ramp.... 188 Rob Miller 07-Feb-10 16:30
Re: Little Room For Khufu's Ramp.... 188 Elizabeth Newton 08-Feb-10 04:01
Re: Old Kingdom Tyrants? 354 Thunderbird 07-Feb-10 05:26
Re: Old Kingdom Tyrants? 240 Titus Livius 07-Feb-10 12:38
Re: Old Kingdom Tyrants? 280 sher 07-Feb-10 14:09
Re: Old Kingdom Tyrants? 258 Titus Livius 07-Feb-10 19:21
Re: Old Kingdom Tyrants? 296 Drewski 07-Feb-10 12:58
Re: Answers.....for the initiated? : ) 302 Thunderbird 07-Feb-10 17:44
Re: Little Room For Khufu's Ramp.... 252 Titus Livius 06-Feb-10 09:37
Re: Little Room For Khufu's Ramp.... 268 Archae Solenhofen 06-Feb-10 18:50
Re: Little Room For Khufu's Ramp.... 251 Susan Doris 06-Feb-10 19:02
Re: Little Room For Khufu's Ramp.... 252 cladking 06-Feb-10 22:51
Some photos 262 Jon B 06-Feb-10 10:53
Re: Some photos 176 sher 06-Feb-10 12:20
Re: Some photos 179 Jon B 06-Feb-10 12:46
Uhmmm,... 194 sher 06-Feb-10 12:43
Re: Uhmmm,... 246 Jon B 06-Feb-10 12:48
Re: Uhmmm,... 201 sher 06-Feb-10 12:54
Re: Uhmmm,... 212 Jon B 06-Feb-10 12:56
Answer this question and win a Cigar 228 sher 06-Feb-10 15:35
Re: Answer this question and win a Cigar 273 Jon B 06-Feb-10 17:18
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Re: Answer this question and win a Cigar 269 cladking 06-Feb-10 23:39
Re: Answer this question and win a Cigar 202 Archae Solenhofen 06-Feb-10 19:16
Re: Answer this question and win a Cigar 193 sher 06-Feb-10 21:14
Re: Answer this question and win a Cigar 203 cladking 06-Feb-10 22:57
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Re: Little Room For Khufu's Ramp.... 282 Dr. Troglodyte 06-Feb-10 23:58


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