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Of course we'll never know exactly how the ramps were placed; there weren't any.

I strongly agree though that unless there is good evidence to the contrary we should be investigating what methods were at their disposal and within their ability. Due to the tremendous scope of this job we should alkso be looking for something that was highly efficient. As always we should come up with ideas that best fit the actual evidence.

RAMPS FALL FLAT ON THEIR FACE AGAINST ALL THESE PARAMETERS. The very first pyramid was a great pyramid. If they used ramps they went straight from building low lying earth hugging structures to a 200' tall monstrosity. You're suggesting against all common sense that ramps sprang full blown out of the desert. You're also suggesting that they managed to build a 6 1/2 million ton pyramid using a ramp system that the best modern minds can't duplicate. No one has ever come up with a workable model of how it might be donme yet we're expected to believe the ancients just whipped them together at will. Yeah, right. We're also supposed to believe the largest project ever done at a single point employed the least efficient possible means to complete. Good one.

But most ridiculous of all is that this was done in a total and utter cultural vacuum leaving no evidence whatsoever. This is beyond the pale.

But the real capper on the idea of ramps is that they could have done it without leaving any physical evidence. And leaving physical evidence for other means of construction.

You really need to give up ramps and start looking for something else. There are several ways they might have been done that are consistent with the technology and evidence and don't involve ramps.

The reason no one has been able to prove ramps after all these years is that they didn't use any ramps. So long as it's shrugged off we might never know how it was done.



Man fears the pyramid, time fears man.

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Little Room For Khufu's Ramp.... 354 Scott Creighton 05-Feb-10 12:31
Re: Little Room For Khufu's Ramp.... 273 Scott Creighton 05-Feb-10 15:41
Re: Little Room For Khufu's Ramp.... 246 cladking 05-Feb-10 17:01
Re: Little Room For Khufu's Ramp.... 204 sher 05-Feb-10 17:37
Re: Little Room For Khufu's Ramp.... 227 Scott Creighton 05-Feb-10 18:27
Re: Little Room For Khufu's Ramp.... 273 papalou 05-Feb-10 18:36
Re: Little Room For Khufu's Ramp.... 294 sher 05-Feb-10 19:23
Re: Little Room For Khufu's Ramp.... 286 cladking 05-Feb-10 20:16
Re: Little Room For Khufu's Ramp.... 242 sher 05-Feb-10 21:44
Re: Little Room For Khufu's Ramp.... 243 cladking 05-Feb-10 21:59
Re: Little Room For Khufu's Ramp.... 218 sher 05-Feb-10 22:22
Re: Little Room For Khufu's Ramp.... 258 cladking 05-Feb-10 22:57
Re: Little Room For Khufu's Ramp.... 228 sher 05-Feb-10 23:20
Re: Little Room For Khufu's Ramp.... 272 cladking 05-Feb-10 23:34
Re: Little Room For Khufu's Ramp.... 272 sher 05-Feb-10 23:55
Re: Little Room For Khufu's Ramp.... 282 papalou 06-Feb-10 02:09
Re: Little Room For Khufu's Ramp.... 240 cladking 06-Feb-10 02:48
Re: Little Room For Khufu's Ramp.... 223 sher 06-Feb-10 06:47
Re: Little Room For Khufu's Ramp.... 265 David L 06-Feb-10 20:26
Re: Little Room For Khufu's Ramp.... 225 cladking 05-Feb-10 20:09
Re: Little Room For Khufu's Ramp.... 286 Warwick 05-Feb-10 20:11
Re: Little Room For Khufu's Ramp.... 206 cladking 05-Feb-10 20:20
Re: Little Room For Khufu's Ramp.... 233 Warwick 05-Feb-10 20:43
Re: Little Room For Khufu's Ramp.... 200 cladking 05-Feb-10 20:48
Re: Little Room For Khufu's Ramp.... 205 Warwick 05-Feb-10 20:51
Re: Little Room For Khufu's Ramp.... 281 Jon B 05-Feb-10 18:40
Re: Little Room For Khufu's Ramp.... 266 Scott Creighton 05-Feb-10 19:00
Re: Little Room For Khufu's Ramp.... 218 Jon B 05-Feb-10 19:12
Re: Little Room For Khufu's Ramp.... 228 Warwick 05-Feb-10 19:17
Re: Little Room For Khufu's Ramp.... 191 cladking 05-Feb-10 20:27
Re: Little Room For Khufu's Ramp.... 263 Scott Creighton 05-Feb-10 19:57
Re: Little Room For Khufu's Ramp.... 192 Warwick 05-Feb-10 20:04
Re: Little Room For Khufu's Ramp.... 264 Jon B 05-Feb-10 20:21
Re: Little Room For Khufu's Ramp.... 285 cladking 05-Feb-10 20:31
Re: Little Room For Khufu's Ramp.... 256 Jon B 05-Feb-10 20:37
Re: Little Room For Khufu's Ramp.... 278 cladking 05-Feb-10 20:58
Re: Little Room For Khufu's Ramp.... 236 Scott Creighton 05-Feb-10 20:45
Re: Little Room For Khufu's Ramp.... 246 cladking 05-Feb-10 20:26
Re: Little Room For Khufu's Ramp.... 278 Jon B 05-Feb-10 21:28
Re: Little Room For Khufu's Ramp.... 249 Warwick 06-Feb-10 18:20
Re: Little Room For Khufu's Ramp.... 237 cladking 06-Feb-10 22:32
Re: Little Room For Khufu's Ramp.... 278 Jon B 07-Feb-10 11:48
Re: Little Room For Khufu's Ramp.... 253 cladking 07-Feb-10 16:39
sigh.... 208 Warwick 05-Feb-10 19:15
Re: Little Room For Khufu's Ramp.... 246 cladking 05-Feb-10 20:25
Re: Little Room For Khufu's Ramp.... 196 Warwick 05-Feb-10 20:48
Re: Little Room For Khufu's Ramp.... 274 cladking 05-Feb-10 21:11
trying to get the thread back on topic 253 Warwick 06-Feb-10 18:16
Re: trying to get the thread back on topic 244 cladking 06-Feb-10 22:37
ONE MORE TRY...... 248 Warwick 07-Feb-10 16:26
Re: ONE MORE TRY...... 244 cladking 07-Feb-10 16:43
Re: ONE MORE TRY...... 236 Warwick 07-Feb-10 18:45
Re: ONE MORE TRY...... 223 cladking 07-Feb-10 19:00
Re: ONE MORE TRY...... 237 Warwick 08-Feb-10 17:30
Re: ONE MORE TRY...... 197 cladking 08-Feb-10 21:47
Re: ONE MORE TRY...... 275 Jon B 08-Feb-10 22:17
Re: ONE MORE TRY...... 213 cladking 08-Feb-10 22:52
Re: ONE MORE TRY...... 229 Jon B 09-Feb-10 08:21
Re: ONE MORE TRY...... 279 cladking 09-Feb-10 16:47
Re: ONE MORE TRY...... 288 Warwick 09-Feb-10 16:05
Re: ONE MORE TRY...... 282 cladking 09-Feb-10 16:33
Re: ONE MORE TRY...... 224 Warwick 09-Feb-10 17:25
Re: ONE MORE TRY...... 208 cladking 09-Feb-10 17:36
I found the external Ramp 229 sher 09-Feb-10 20:32
Re: I found the external Ramp 283 cladking 09-Feb-10 21:01
Re: I found the external Ramp 183 sher 09-Feb-10 21:59
Re: Little Room For Khufu's Ramp.... 218 Warwick 05-Feb-10 19:33
Re: Little Room For Khufu's Ramp.... 227 cladking 05-Feb-10 20:35
Re: Little Room For Khufu's Ramp.... 283 cladking 05-Feb-10 20:13
Re: Little Room For Khufu's Ramp.... 202 Warwick 05-Feb-10 18:59
FTR 251 Warwick 05-Feb-10 19:08
Re: Little Room For Khufu's Ramp.... 201 cladking 05-Feb-10 20:43
Re: Little Room For Khufu's Ramp.... 231 carolb 05-Feb-10 20:17
Re: Little Room For Khufu's Ramp.... 230 Warwick 05-Feb-10 20:22
Re: Little Room For Khufu's Ramp.... 208 carolb 05-Feb-10 20:41
Re: Little Room For Khufu's Ramp.... 269 cladking 05-Feb-10 21:03
Re: Little Room For Khufu's Ramp.... 267 Jon B 05-Feb-10 20:31
Re: Little Room For Khufu's Ramp.... 188 carolb 05-Feb-10 20:42
Re: Little Room For Khufu's Ramp.... 215 Scott Creighton 05-Feb-10 20:54
Re: Little Room For Khufu's Ramp.... 233 carolb 05-Feb-10 20:56
Re: Little Room For Khufu's Ramp.... 258 cladking 05-Feb-10 21:00
Re: Little Room For Khufu's Ramp.... 186 carolb 05-Feb-10 21:02
Re: Little Room For Khufu's Ramp.... 245 Scott Creighton 05-Feb-10 21:04
Re: Little Room For Khufu's Ramp.... 250 cladking 05-Feb-10 21:07
Re: Little Room For Khufu's Ramp.... 203 Scott Creighton 05-Feb-10 21:17
Re: Little Room For Khufu's Ramp.... 283 cladking 05-Feb-10 22:08
Re: Little Room For Khufu's Ramp.... 265 michael seabrook 06-Feb-10 00:05
Re: Little Room For Khufu's Ramp.... 268 Elizabeth Newton 06-Feb-10 07:48
Re: Little Room For Khufu's Ramp.... 244 Scott Creighton 06-Feb-10 12:16
Re: Little Room For Khufu's Ramp.... 269 Elizabeth Newton 07-Feb-10 16:26
Re: Little Room For Khufu's Ramp.... 189 Rob Miller 07-Feb-10 16:30
Re: Little Room For Khufu's Ramp.... 188 Elizabeth Newton 08-Feb-10 04:01
Re: Old Kingdom Tyrants? 355 Thunderbird 07-Feb-10 05:26
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Re: Old Kingdom Tyrants? 280 sher 07-Feb-10 14:09
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Re: Old Kingdom Tyrants? 296 Drewski 07-Feb-10 12:58
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Re: Little Room For Khufu's Ramp.... 253 Titus Livius 06-Feb-10 09:37
Re: Little Room For Khufu's Ramp.... 269 Archae Solenhofen 06-Feb-10 18:50
Re: Little Room For Khufu's Ramp.... 252 Susan Doris 06-Feb-10 19:02
Re: Little Room For Khufu's Ramp.... 252 cladking 06-Feb-10 22:51
Some photos 263 Jon B 06-Feb-10 10:53
Re: Some photos 177 sher 06-Feb-10 12:20
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Uhmmm,... 195 sher 06-Feb-10 12:43
Re: Uhmmm,... 246 Jon B 06-Feb-10 12:48
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Re: Uhmmm,... 212 Jon B 06-Feb-10 12:56
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