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sher wrote:

> Like I have always stated,..you have to look at the Great
> Pyramid construction with a point of view of a project manager.
> Closest access points for incoming materials and the most
> economic use of power. The sand and site rubble is less
> volatile and easier to move then water,..it is also more
> abundant than water at the plateau level. Why expand extra
> energy to take water up when you already have sand and rubble
> that can go down. Do you get the meaning. Also by decreasing
> the weight of the 60 to 80 ton blocks going up through
> inclination and by decreasing friction plus drag,..the amount
> of sand/rubble ballast will be much less.
>
> I have done my study on it,..and through my study I was able to
> go to the site in which I found the megalith ramp still
> standing there today.

I don't doubt you in the least.

And you're right that hauling water up from the river to use as ballast would constitute significant extra work. Indeed it would add back a lot of the work that is saved by not using ramps. Evaporation would be a significant factor in the dry desert heat.

I'm not saying that they necessarily used water just that they necessarily did pull the stones up the side. They would not have hauled water up from the river probably because they wouldn't have even thought of using such a technique and the pyramids would never have been built.

I believe the water occurred naturally atop the plateau. This is a most unusual thing since water flows downhill and this is high above the river. But there is extensive evidence for water at the pyramid so it might be justified to seek a means by which water could get to such a great level.

There are two natural means in this location. The first is by water high up the Nile having a route through the earth and having the head pressure to rise to this level. There's plenty of reason to doubt this was it.

The only other plausible means would be if this water were saturated with carbon dioxide so that it shot out of the earth.

The Pyramid Texts seems to strongly support this idea even going so far as to call Osiris to be "effervescent". Osiris is cool water like wine. He is forever undergoing a process which looks like off gassing and his efflux is called something that can be translated as CO2 and it works in each usage. Indeed it even says that Osiris is made by CO2. He stands when he is devine.

They certainly used something in the counterweights and it's a virtual certainty that they used the most convenient material that was available.

If that was water then they wouldn't even need to lift it and the pyramids were built by the Gods just as the builders said they were.



Man fears the pyramid, time fears man.

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Little Room For Khufu's Ramp.... 354 Scott Creighton 05-Feb-10 12:31
Re: Little Room For Khufu's Ramp.... 273 Scott Creighton 05-Feb-10 15:41
Re: Little Room For Khufu's Ramp.... 246 cladking 05-Feb-10 17:01
Re: Little Room For Khufu's Ramp.... 204 sher 05-Feb-10 17:37
Re: Little Room For Khufu's Ramp.... 227 Scott Creighton 05-Feb-10 18:27
Re: Little Room For Khufu's Ramp.... 273 papalou 05-Feb-10 18:36
Re: Little Room For Khufu's Ramp.... 294 sher 05-Feb-10 19:23
Re: Little Room For Khufu's Ramp.... 286 cladking 05-Feb-10 20:16
Re: Little Room For Khufu's Ramp.... 242 sher 05-Feb-10 21:44
Re: Little Room For Khufu's Ramp.... 243 cladking 05-Feb-10 21:59
Re: Little Room For Khufu's Ramp.... 218 sher 05-Feb-10 22:22
Re: Little Room For Khufu's Ramp.... 258 cladking 05-Feb-10 22:57
Re: Little Room For Khufu's Ramp.... 228 sher 05-Feb-10 23:20
Re: Little Room For Khufu's Ramp.... 272 cladking 05-Feb-10 23:34
Re: Little Room For Khufu's Ramp.... 272 sher 05-Feb-10 23:55
Re: Little Room For Khufu's Ramp.... 282 papalou 06-Feb-10 02:09
Re: Little Room For Khufu's Ramp.... 240 cladking 06-Feb-10 02:48
Re: Little Room For Khufu's Ramp.... 224 sher 06-Feb-10 06:47
Re: Little Room For Khufu's Ramp.... 265 David L 06-Feb-10 20:26
Re: Little Room For Khufu's Ramp.... 225 cladking 05-Feb-10 20:09
Re: Little Room For Khufu's Ramp.... 286 Warwick 05-Feb-10 20:11
Re: Little Room For Khufu's Ramp.... 206 cladking 05-Feb-10 20:20
Re: Little Room For Khufu's Ramp.... 233 Warwick 05-Feb-10 20:43
Re: Little Room For Khufu's Ramp.... 201 cladking 05-Feb-10 20:48
Re: Little Room For Khufu's Ramp.... 206 Warwick 05-Feb-10 20:51
Re: Little Room For Khufu's Ramp.... 281 Jon B 05-Feb-10 18:40
Re: Little Room For Khufu's Ramp.... 266 Scott Creighton 05-Feb-10 19:00
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Re: Little Room For Khufu's Ramp.... 228 Warwick 05-Feb-10 19:17
Re: Little Room For Khufu's Ramp.... 191 cladking 05-Feb-10 20:27
Re: Little Room For Khufu's Ramp.... 263 Scott Creighton 05-Feb-10 19:57
Re: Little Room For Khufu's Ramp.... 192 Warwick 05-Feb-10 20:04
Re: Little Room For Khufu's Ramp.... 264 Jon B 05-Feb-10 20:21
Re: Little Room For Khufu's Ramp.... 285 cladking 05-Feb-10 20:31
Re: Little Room For Khufu's Ramp.... 256 Jon B 05-Feb-10 20:37
Re: Little Room For Khufu's Ramp.... 279 cladking 05-Feb-10 20:58
Re: Little Room For Khufu's Ramp.... 236 Scott Creighton 05-Feb-10 20:45
Re: Little Room For Khufu's Ramp.... 246 cladking 05-Feb-10 20:26
Re: Little Room For Khufu's Ramp.... 278 Jon B 05-Feb-10 21:28
Re: Little Room For Khufu's Ramp.... 249 Warwick 06-Feb-10 18:20
Re: Little Room For Khufu's Ramp.... 237 cladking 06-Feb-10 22:32
Re: Little Room For Khufu's Ramp.... 279 Jon B 07-Feb-10 11:48
Re: Little Room For Khufu's Ramp.... 253 cladking 07-Feb-10 16:39
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Re: Little Room For Khufu's Ramp.... 246 cladking 05-Feb-10 20:25
Re: Little Room For Khufu's Ramp.... 197 Warwick 05-Feb-10 20:48
Re: Little Room For Khufu's Ramp.... 274 cladking 05-Feb-10 21:11
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ONE MORE TRY...... 248 Warwick 07-Feb-10 16:26
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Re: I found the external Ramp 283 cladking 09-Feb-10 21:01
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Re: Little Room For Khufu's Ramp.... 218 Warwick 05-Feb-10 19:33
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