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Reply to first posting on 5/12/2009

The situation you describe is correct for the Ancient Greeks and for us today - that our names have meanings.

However, it is not correct for the Egyptian pharaohs. They adopted Horus related, and other religious descriptions upon taking the throne. They were not names as we understand 'names' today.

The change in emphasis from important religious descriptions/meaning to names with meanings, was imposed by the later Greek civilization. That incorrect emphasis applies through to today. Once a basic course in Egyptology is undertaken, the correct position becomes obvious.

Here is more from the Presentation:

"Review Facts
It is necessary to revisit basic orthodox Egyptology in relation to the names adopted by the pharaohs. What follows is my succinct and objective summary of this subject.

• It is important to also understand that much of the terminology we use today consists of words designed by the Greeks to describe an aspect of Ancient Egyptians [“AE”] life/religion.
• Pharaoh is one such word. The Greeks turned it into a descriptive title so that today we use it in the same manner as we would refer to a King or Queen. The term ‘pharaoh’ derives from the words pr-o, meaning Great House. In reality, the term was not commonly used by the AEs to refer to their pharaohs.
• To the Ancient Egyptians, the pharaoh was an embodiment of god on earth. To be more precise, the Ancient Egyptians had two concepts of God – a distant Ra and Horus, the son of Ra. Horus was considered to be the bridge between this world and Ra.
• As always with Ancient Egyptian religion, it is most difficult to ascertain exactly what Ra was or what Horus was. What is clear, however, is that these concepts were central to their religion.
• Whatever it was that Horus was or represented, upon taking the throne the pharaoh became the symbolic representation of Horus. To put it another way, the pharaoh gave the AEs an earthly representation of Horus.
Because the pharaoh became Horus on this earth, he was entitled to adopt terms with symbolic meanings that expressed his supremacy – the fact that he had the power and capacity of Horus."

To conclude, the pharaohs did not adopt names with meanings. They adopted important descriptions. This is where it ends for the Ancient Egyptians.

'the world fears time, but time fears the pyramids', old Arab saying

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Pharaohs did not have Names 175 Elizabeth Newton 05-Dec-09 03:55
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Re: Pharaohs did not have Names 109 Elizabeth Newton 06-Dec-09 03:28

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