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Hi Ogypos,

You write: How can you be sure that 26.5 is the difference in tilt and not the original obliquety?

SC: First of all, I do not say 26.5* is the "difference in tilt" - I say it is the overall tilt from -3* to +23.5*.

Now let me offer up an answer to your question. I find it difficult enough accepting the orthodox view as to the causes of Ice Ages - particularly the last one where we find that the Cordilleran ice sheet that covered most of North America and Canada disappeared very rapidly. What you are asking me to accept is that the Cordilleran Ice Sheet was up to 3* further south with an axial tilt of 26.5* than it would have been with only our present axial tilt of 23.5*. You are are also asking me to accept that the Cordilleran Ice Sheet melted rapidly by being tilted up to 3* further towards the polar region! This is completely illogical and why Giza would also have been placed further north before the tilt - not further south as you would have it.

Quite simply, this great ice sheet vanished because it was pushed southwards OUT of what was previously the polar region - not northwards INTO it as your scenario would have it.

Ogypos: Could this all mean that the GP does not encode a global catastrophy but rather astronomic data?

SC: You are making the mistake so many others make by considering my work in complete isolation of all the other evidence that has been available for long enough and other scientific evidence which is only now emerging in support of it. Go through this very thread and you will find posts which cite references from the ancient Egyptians themselves who tell us the Earth tilted, the sky fell, the heavens moved. Consider all the myths from around the world that talk of this; the references in the Bible that talk of this. Is it so impossible for you to believe that these people did actually bear witness to just such a cataclysmic event as an axial tilt? So why not memorialise such a traumatic moment in the history of the world into a structure we now call the Great Pyramid of Khufu?

Regards,

SC


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Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 594 Scott Creighton 23-Aug-07 01:41
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 324 Ahatmose 23-Aug-07 03:10
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 346 Broker 23-Aug-07 04:15
Special Thanks to Gary Osborn 358 Scott Creighton 23-Aug-07 11:20
Re: Special Thanks to Gary Osborn 345 P Mac 23-Aug-07 12:17
Re: Special Thanks to Gary Osborn 386 Scott Creighton 23-Aug-07 19:34
Re: Special Thanks to Gary Osborn 429 Gary Osborn 23-Aug-07 14:10
Re: Special Thanks to Gary Osborn 379 Joyeuse 23-Aug-07 15:28
Re: Special Thanks to Gary Osborn 373 Scott Creighton 23-Aug-07 19:30
Re: Special Thanks to Gary Osborn 340 Joyeuse 23-Aug-07 21:15
Re: Special Thanks to Gary Osborn 389 Joyeuse 23-Aug-07 15:25
Re: Special Thanks to Gary Osborn 348 Gary Osborn 23-Aug-07 15:36
Re: Special Thanks to Gary Osborn 362 Joyeuse 23-Aug-07 16:16
Re: Special Thanks to Gary Osborn 364 Gary Osborn 23-Aug-07 16:22
Re: Special Thanks to Gary Osborn 372 Joyeuse 23-Aug-07 16:45
Re: Special Thanks to Gary Osborn 316 Gary Osborn 23-Aug-07 16:58
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 328 Scott Creighton 23-Aug-07 19:33
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 348 Broker 24-Aug-07 02:25
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 364 Kboldt 23-Aug-07 15:50
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 315 Gary Osborn 23-Aug-07 16:01
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 383 Kboldt 23-Aug-07 16:33
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 371 Gary Osborn 23-Aug-07 20:22
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 322 Kboldt 23-Aug-07 20:33
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 279 Dale Robert Lerch 24-Aug-07 08:36
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 323 P Mac 23-Aug-07 16:49
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 368 Scott Creighton 23-Aug-07 19:37
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 365 Gary Osborn 23-Aug-07 20:31
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 375 Kboldt 23-Aug-07 20:49
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 387 NetWorkAngel 24-Aug-07 20:54
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 354 Scott Creighton 24-Aug-07 21:04
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 250 NetWorkAngel 23-Aug-07 17:10
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 357 Kboldt 23-Aug-07 17:26
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 401 P Mac 23-Aug-07 17:35
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 283 Scott Creighton 23-Aug-07 19:40
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 351 Gary Osborn 23-Aug-07 20:08
A bit of clarification 329 Jon B 23-Aug-07 17:45
Re: A bit of clarification 294 Scott Creighton 23-Aug-07 20:00
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 387 Scott Creighton 23-Aug-07 20:50
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 409 mephisto 23-Aug-07 07:44
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 322 Scott Creighton 23-Aug-07 20:03
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 346 Gary Osborn 23-Aug-07 08:20
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 361 Scott Creighton 23-Aug-07 20:04
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 346 Gary Osborn 24-Aug-07 10:25
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 370 Gary Osborn 24-Aug-07 11:13
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 258 P Mac 24-Aug-07 11:55
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 355 Gary Osborn 24-Aug-07 13:26
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 400 Sirfiroth 24-Aug-07 14:52
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 345 Gary Osborn 24-Aug-07 15:02
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 376 Sirfiroth 25-Aug-07 03:42
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 318 Gary Osborn 26-Aug-07 12:21
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 299 P Mac 24-Aug-07 11:45
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 328 Gary Osborn 24-Aug-07 12:00
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 351 magisterchessmutt 24-Aug-07 12:23
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 371 Gary Osborn 24-Aug-07 14:10
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 355 Scott Creighton 24-Aug-07 18:21
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 314 Gary Osborn 24-Aug-07 19:18
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 388 Ghia 23-Aug-07 08:40
Wow! 462 Ghia 23-Aug-07 09:06
Re: Wow! 383 Scott Creighton 23-Aug-07 20:06
Re: Wow! 366 Jackfrost 24-Aug-07 16:09
Re: Wow! 342 Scott Creighton 24-Aug-07 16:49
Re: Wow! 375 Saravuth 26-Aug-07 02:35
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 223 Morph 23-Aug-07 09:07
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 347 Ghia 23-Aug-07 09:12
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 338 Morph 23-Aug-07 10:25
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 313 Joyeuse 23-Aug-07 16:58
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 376 mephisto 23-Aug-07 12:06
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 438 Ahatmose 23-Aug-07 12:57
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 363 Spiros 23-Aug-07 09:24
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 345 Morph 23-Aug-07 13:30
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 268 Gary Osborn 23-Aug-07 13:54
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 362 Gary Osborn 23-Aug-07 14:19
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 374 Morph 23-Aug-07 14:20
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 351 Ahatmose 23-Aug-07 13:56
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 345 Sirfiroth 23-Aug-07 13:31
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 301 Scott Creighton 23-Aug-07 20:09
More fully... 386 Morph 23-Aug-07 13:53
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 283 Ahatmose 23-Aug-07 14:08
Addendum: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 293 Ahatmose 23-Aug-07 14:19
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 355 Gary Osborn 23-Aug-07 23:48
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 343 Morph 23-Aug-07 14:13
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 403 drrayeye 23-Aug-07 14:47
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 343 Scott Creighton 23-Aug-07 20:18
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 467 drrayeye 24-Aug-07 14:28
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 340 Joyeuse 23-Aug-07 15:22
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 354 Ahatmose 23-Aug-07 15:29
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 322 Joyeuse 23-Aug-07 16:05
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 382 NetWorkAngel 23-Aug-07 17:16
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 385 Joyeuse 23-Aug-07 17:39
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 358 NetWorkAngel 23-Aug-07 17:45
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 322 Joyeuse 23-Aug-07 17:42
oops pls read "can't" instead of can N/T 387 Joyeuse 23-Aug-07 17:44
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 314 Scott Creighton 23-Aug-07 21:22
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 343 Dale Robert Lerch 24-Aug-07 09:06
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 315 Scott Creighton 24-Aug-07 13:46
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 297 Joe Atlantis 23-Aug-07 19:25
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 360 Scott Creighton 23-Aug-07 20:26
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 386 Warwick 24-Aug-07 17:34
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 430 Scott Creighton 24-Aug-07 17:42
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 335 Warwick 24-Aug-07 18:11
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 363 Kboldt 24-Aug-07 18:23
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 385 Warwick 24-Aug-07 18:38
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 390 Scott Creighton 24-Aug-07 18:39
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 356 Warwick 25-Aug-07 17:21
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 364 Scott Creighton 25-Aug-07 17:33
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 337 Warwick 25-Aug-07 17:44
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 383 Scott Creighton 25-Aug-07 17:57
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 340 Warwick 26-Aug-07 17:26
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 352 Broker 26-Aug-07 19:42
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 347 Scott Creighton 26-Aug-07 20:52
Moderator Note 380 Ghia 26-Aug-07 23:31
Re: Moderator Note 350 Warwick 29-Aug-07 16:49
Re: Moderator Note 406 Ahatmose 29-Aug-07 17:21
Re: Moderator Note 345 Warwick 01-Sep-07 18:28
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 273 Ahatmose 24-Aug-07 18:42
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 247 caugusto 24-Aug-07 21:34
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 321 Warwick 25-Aug-07 17:29
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 363 Kboldt 24-Aug-07 18:04
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 343 Gary Osborn 24-Aug-07 18:42
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 404 Scott Creighton 24-Aug-07 18:49
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 352 Kboldt 24-Aug-07 19:05
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 299 Ahatmose 24-Aug-07 19:19
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 366 Scott Creighton 24-Aug-07 19:29
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 333 Ahatmose 24-Aug-07 20:16
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 316 Gary Osborn 24-Aug-07 20:45
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 372 Scott Creighton 24-Aug-07 20:53
More Chills... 276 Ghia 25-Aug-07 00:21
Re: More Chills... 335 P Mac 25-Aug-07 11:12
Re: More Chills... 327 Scott Creighton 25-Aug-07 12:31
Re: More Chills... 194 P Mac 25-Aug-07 13:30
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 351 Kboldt 24-Aug-07 19:01
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 367 Gary Osborn 24-Aug-07 19:29
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 425 jnisbet 25-Aug-07 01:48
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 357 Scott Creighton 25-Aug-07 11:00
A shadow beyond the doubt 381 drew 25-Aug-07 03:06
Re: A shadow beyond the doubt 344 jnisbet 25-Aug-07 03:41
Re: A shadow beyond the doubt 419 drew 25-Aug-07 12:43
Re: A shadow beyond the doubt 342 P Mac 25-Aug-07 11:46
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 369 Saravuth 25-Aug-07 14:34
please explain 322 Spiros 25-Aug-07 14:40
Re: please explain 351 Mr. Hunter 25-Aug-07 15:48
Re: please explain 360 magisterchessmutt 26-Aug-07 00:17
Re: please explain 353 Scott Creighton 25-Aug-07 17:11
the solution? 351 Spiros 25-Aug-07 18:53
Re: the solution? 376 Scott Creighton 25-Aug-07 20:49
Re: the solution? 313 Spiros 25-Aug-07 21:50
Re: the solution? 343 Scott Creighton 25-Aug-07 22:11
Re: the solution? 308 Gary Osborn 26-Aug-07 00:23
Re: the solution? 323 Scott Creighton 26-Aug-07 01:21
Re: the solution? 327 Dale Robert Lerch 26-Aug-07 07:47
Re: the solution? 352 Gary Osborn 30-Aug-07 20:28
Re: the solution? 369 Gary Osborn 26-Aug-07 12:37
Re: the solution? 300 Spiros 27-Aug-07 19:18
Re: the solution? 344 Gary Osborn 27-Aug-07 19:23
Question remains unanswered ... at least to me. 364 Ahatmose 26-Aug-07 02:04
Re: Question remains unanswered ... at least to me. 359 Scott Creighton 26-Aug-07 20:05
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 382 Scott Creighton 25-Aug-07 17:17
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 299 magisterchessmutt 26-Aug-07 01:52
Testing and validating the Giza axial tilt theory 429 drrayeye 26-Aug-07 20:29
Re: Testing and validating the Giza axial tilt theory 280 Scott Creighton 27-Aug-07 17:43
Re: Testing and validating the Giza axial tilt theory 376 Ahatmose 27-Aug-07 17:54
Firestone 422 drrayeye 27-Aug-07 20:10
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 333 Richard Essame 27-Aug-07 02:59
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 366 Ghia 27-Aug-07 03:12
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 345 Richard Essame 27-Aug-07 06:38
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 310 magisterchessmutt 27-Aug-07 05:00
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 341 Richard Essame 27-Aug-07 06:04
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 360 magisterchessmutt 27-Aug-07 06:24
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 356 Richard Essame 27-Aug-07 07:12
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 383 Ahatmose 27-Aug-07 14:19
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 357 Scott Creighton 27-Aug-07 14:51
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 376 Ahatmose 27-Aug-07 16:02
Addendum ... 408 Ahatmose 27-Aug-07 16:31
Re: Addendum ... 366 Scott Creighton 27-Aug-07 16:49
Re: Addendum ... 322 Ahatmose 27-Aug-07 17:00
Re: Addendum ... 360 Scott Creighton 27-Aug-07 17:30
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 353 Richard Essame 27-Aug-07 19:28
This may help, Don 336 Cesar 27-Aug-07 22:18
Re: This may help, Don 349 Ghia 27-Aug-07 23:40
Re: This may help, Don 373 Scott Creighton 27-Aug-07 23:59
Re: This may help, Don 355 Cesar 28-Aug-07 02:40
Re: This may help, Don 328 Sirfiroth 28-Aug-07 02:51
Re: This may help, Don 346 Cesar 28-Aug-07 04:12
Re: This may help, Don 400 Sirfiroth 28-Aug-07 05:29
Re: This may help, Don 368 Ahatmose 28-Aug-07 02:15
Re: This may help, Don 381 Cesar 28-Aug-07 04:12
Re: This may help, Don 435 Scott Creighton 28-Aug-07 10:56
Re: This may help, Don 335 Cesar 28-Aug-07 21:44
The Impactor 324 Scott Creighton 28-Aug-07 22:17
Re: This may help, Don 272 Scott Creighton 29-Aug-07 11:38
Intriguing 397 Cesar 01-Sep-07 12:03
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 427 LonelyAngel 27-Aug-07 18:37
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 376 Scott Creighton 27-Aug-07 18:44
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 391 LonelyAngel 28-Aug-07 17:57
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 342 Deep1 28-Aug-07 18:52
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 332 LonelyAngel 29-Aug-07 20:38
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 339 Deep1 29-Aug-07 20:59
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 355 Ahatmose 29-Aug-07 21:23
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 340 LonelyAngel 30-Aug-07 16:24
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 364 Scott Creighton 30-Aug-07 17:02
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 347 LonelyAngel 30-Aug-07 17:43
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 317 Gary Osborn 30-Aug-07 20:01
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 354 Scott Creighton 30-Aug-07 21:17
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 348 Gary Osborn 30-Aug-07 21:44
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 330 LonelyAngel 30-Aug-07 21:57
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 369 Gary Osborn 30-Aug-07 23:40
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 367 Morph 31-Aug-07 11:39
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 355 Scott Creighton 28-Aug-07 18:55
One major problem as I see it ... 316 Ahatmose 28-Aug-07 23:07
Re: One major problem as I see it ... 373 P Mac 29-Aug-07 00:02
Re: One major problem as I see it ... 304 magisterchessmutt 29-Aug-07 00:25
Re: One major problem as I see it ... 386 Richard Essame 29-Aug-07 00:33
Re: One major problem as I see it ... 360 Ahatmose 29-Aug-07 02:39
Re: One major problem as I see it ... 372 Richard Essame 29-Aug-07 03:04
Re: One major problem as I see it ... 398 Ahatmose 29-Aug-07 03:15
Re: One major problem as I see it ... 347 Richard Essame 29-Aug-07 05:24
Re: One major problem as I see it ... 289 Cesar 29-Aug-07 02:21
Re: One major problem as I see it ... 367 caugusto 29-Aug-07 04:40
Re: One major Solution? 347 Scott Creighton 29-Aug-07 09:56
Re: One major Solution? 404 Ahatmose 29-Aug-07 17:47
Re: One major Solution? 315 Richard Essame 30-Aug-07 00:16
Re: One major Solution? 361 Richard Essame 30-Aug-07 19:24
Re: One major Solution? 407 P Mac 31-Aug-07 12:44
Re: One major Solution? 345 Richard Essame 31-Aug-07 23:39
Re: One major Solution? 338 Scott Creighton 01-Sep-07 10:25
Re: One major Solution? 309 P Mac 01-Sep-07 16:13
Re: One major Solution? 351 P Mac 02-Sep-07 00:23
Re: One major Solution? 349 Ahatmose 02-Sep-07 01:50
Or another solution... 379 drew 29-Aug-07 21:35
Re: Or another solution... 309 Jackfrost 30-Aug-07 15:46
Re: Or another solution... 304 P Mac 30-Aug-07 16:39
Re: Or another solution... 368 Jackfrost 31-Aug-07 10:55
Re: Or another solution... 385 P Mac 31-Aug-07 16:01
Re: Or another solution... 371 Richard Essame 01-Sep-07 01:57


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