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Hi Kim,

You quote:

Genesis 8:22 "While the earth remaineth, seedtime and harvest, and cold and heat, and summer and winter, and day and night shall not cease."

. . . and write:

"Obviously there was a change when the 4 seasons had now come into being".




From 'Pyramid is Giant Farming Clock'.

John Harlow, Los Angeles.

[www.timesonline.co.uk]

Extract:

"On a barren hillside just north of Lima, he had found an observatory more than 4,000 years old that had been built by a lost civilisation with astonishing sophistication.
"The oldest astronomical observatory in the Americas, it told farmers exactly when to sow their crops. Its discovery has provided startling clues to the way in which early man learnt to cultivate his fields".

G.O.
Some researchers have put forward evidence that the Deluge was related to the tilt of the earth’s axis - or that it was believed it was. If so, then afterwards man had to learn agricultural skills in sync with the newly acquired seasons, and this scenario is suggested in Joscelyn Godwin’s book Arktos.
Godwin quotes Jean Jacques Rousseau (1712–1778) who believed that the earth’s axis tilted from the vertical in one fell swoop – bringing an end to the “Golden Age” and initiating the cycle of the seasons, therefore forcing man to measure time by the stars, the natural celestial markers of time, and learn the necessary agricultural skills needed for his own survival.

‘In the Golden Age, “Time” in all its plenitude was closer to Eternity than to duration. On coming out of paradise, we fell into time, and our ongoing flight is merely our Fall, gradually accelerating. Our measuring instruments are the signs of our anguish. A being that lives in harmony with the environment in which it flourishes has no need for a wrist watch: the courses of the stars are enough. It experiences growing old only as a happy ripening; it participates in the music of the spheres’.

So, could it be that the pyramids and these stone circles and other similar temples were also set up to measure time? and for both agricultural and religious/ritual/magic reasons? Its an interesting hypothesis.

The book Uriel's Machine by Christopher Knight and Robert Lomas now comes to mind. In the 'Book of Enoch', we are told that Enoch was taken to different location around the earth by the Angels (Shining Ones) and shown these devices (circles and standing stones - hence the title "Uriel's Machine") that measured the Solstices and Equinoxes? Surely this would have been implemented to mark time after the earth tilted and man fell into the cycles of time.

Best,
Gary

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Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 593 Scott Creighton 23-Aug-07 01:41
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 324 Ahatmose 23-Aug-07 03:10
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 346 Broker 23-Aug-07 04:15
Special Thanks to Gary Osborn 358 Scott Creighton 23-Aug-07 11:20
Re: Special Thanks to Gary Osborn 345 P Mac 23-Aug-07 12:17
Re: Special Thanks to Gary Osborn 386 Scott Creighton 23-Aug-07 19:34
Re: Special Thanks to Gary Osborn 428 Gary Osborn 23-Aug-07 14:10
Re: Special Thanks to Gary Osborn 379 Joyeuse 23-Aug-07 15:28
Re: Special Thanks to Gary Osborn 373 Scott Creighton 23-Aug-07 19:30
Re: Special Thanks to Gary Osborn 340 Joyeuse 23-Aug-07 21:15
Re: Special Thanks to Gary Osborn 388 Joyeuse 23-Aug-07 15:25
Re: Special Thanks to Gary Osborn 348 Gary Osborn 23-Aug-07 15:36
Re: Special Thanks to Gary Osborn 362 Joyeuse 23-Aug-07 16:16
Re: Special Thanks to Gary Osborn 364 Gary Osborn 23-Aug-07 16:22
Re: Special Thanks to Gary Osborn 372 Joyeuse 23-Aug-07 16:45
Re: Special Thanks to Gary Osborn 316 Gary Osborn 23-Aug-07 16:58
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 328 Scott Creighton 23-Aug-07 19:33
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 348 Broker 24-Aug-07 02:25
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 363 Kboldt 23-Aug-07 15:50
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 315 Gary Osborn 23-Aug-07 16:01
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 383 Kboldt 23-Aug-07 16:33
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 371 Gary Osborn 23-Aug-07 20:22
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 321 Kboldt 23-Aug-07 20:33
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 279 Dale Robert Lerch 24-Aug-07 08:36
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 323 P Mac 23-Aug-07 16:49
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 368 Scott Creighton 23-Aug-07 19:37
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 364 Gary Osborn 23-Aug-07 20:31
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 375 Kboldt 23-Aug-07 20:49
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 387 NetWorkAngel 24-Aug-07 20:54
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 354 Scott Creighton 24-Aug-07 21:04
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 249 NetWorkAngel 23-Aug-07 17:10
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 357 Kboldt 23-Aug-07 17:26
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 401 P Mac 23-Aug-07 17:35
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 283 Scott Creighton 23-Aug-07 19:40
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 351 Gary Osborn 23-Aug-07 20:08
A bit of clarification 328 Jon B 23-Aug-07 17:45
Re: A bit of clarification 293 Scott Creighton 23-Aug-07 20:00
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 386 Scott Creighton 23-Aug-07 20:50
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 409 mephisto 23-Aug-07 07:44
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 322 Scott Creighton 23-Aug-07 20:03
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 346 Gary Osborn 23-Aug-07 08:20
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 360 Scott Creighton 23-Aug-07 20:04
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 346 Gary Osborn 24-Aug-07 10:25
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 370 Gary Osborn 24-Aug-07 11:13
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 257 P Mac 24-Aug-07 11:55
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 355 Gary Osborn 24-Aug-07 13:26
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 400 Sirfiroth 24-Aug-07 14:52
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 345 Gary Osborn 24-Aug-07 15:02
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 376 Sirfiroth 25-Aug-07 03:42
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 318 Gary Osborn 26-Aug-07 12:21
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 299 P Mac 24-Aug-07 11:45
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 328 Gary Osborn 24-Aug-07 12:00
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 351 magisterchessmutt 24-Aug-07 12:23
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 370 Gary Osborn 24-Aug-07 14:10
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 355 Scott Creighton 24-Aug-07 18:21
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 314 Gary Osborn 24-Aug-07 19:18
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 388 Ghia 23-Aug-07 08:40
Wow! 462 Ghia 23-Aug-07 09:06
Re: Wow! 382 Scott Creighton 23-Aug-07 20:06
Re: Wow! 366 Jackfrost 24-Aug-07 16:09
Re: Wow! 342 Scott Creighton 24-Aug-07 16:49
Re: Wow! 375 Saravuth 26-Aug-07 02:35
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 222 Morph 23-Aug-07 09:07
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 346 Ghia 23-Aug-07 09:12
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 337 Morph 23-Aug-07 10:25
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 312 Joyeuse 23-Aug-07 16:58
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 375 mephisto 23-Aug-07 12:06
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 438 Ahatmose 23-Aug-07 12:57
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 362 Spiros 23-Aug-07 09:24
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 345 Morph 23-Aug-07 13:30
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 268 Gary Osborn 23-Aug-07 13:54
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 361 Gary Osborn 23-Aug-07 14:19
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 374 Morph 23-Aug-07 14:20
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 350 Ahatmose 23-Aug-07 13:56
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 344 Sirfiroth 23-Aug-07 13:31
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 300 Scott Creighton 23-Aug-07 20:09
More fully... 386 Morph 23-Aug-07 13:53
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 283 Ahatmose 23-Aug-07 14:08
Addendum: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 293 Ahatmose 23-Aug-07 14:19
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 355 Gary Osborn 23-Aug-07 23:48
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 343 Morph 23-Aug-07 14:13
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 403 drrayeye 23-Aug-07 14:47
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 343 Scott Creighton 23-Aug-07 20:18
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 467 drrayeye 24-Aug-07 14:28
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 340 Joyeuse 23-Aug-07 15:22
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 354 Ahatmose 23-Aug-07 15:29
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 322 Joyeuse 23-Aug-07 16:05
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 381 NetWorkAngel 23-Aug-07 17:16
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 385 Joyeuse 23-Aug-07 17:39
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 358 NetWorkAngel 23-Aug-07 17:45
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 322 Joyeuse 23-Aug-07 17:42
oops pls read "can't" instead of can N/T 387 Joyeuse 23-Aug-07 17:44
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 314 Scott Creighton 23-Aug-07 21:22
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 343 Dale Robert Lerch 24-Aug-07 09:06
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 315 Scott Creighton 24-Aug-07 13:46
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 297 Joe Atlantis 23-Aug-07 19:25
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 360 Scott Creighton 23-Aug-07 20:26
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 386 Warwick 24-Aug-07 17:34
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 430 Scott Creighton 24-Aug-07 17:42
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 335 Warwick 24-Aug-07 18:11
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 363 Kboldt 24-Aug-07 18:23
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 385 Warwick 24-Aug-07 18:38
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 390 Scott Creighton 24-Aug-07 18:39
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 356 Warwick 25-Aug-07 17:21
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 364 Scott Creighton 25-Aug-07 17:33
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 337 Warwick 25-Aug-07 17:44
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 383 Scott Creighton 25-Aug-07 17:57
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 340 Warwick 26-Aug-07 17:26
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 352 Broker 26-Aug-07 19:42
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 347 Scott Creighton 26-Aug-07 20:52
Moderator Note 380 Ghia 26-Aug-07 23:31
Re: Moderator Note 350 Warwick 29-Aug-07 16:49
Re: Moderator Note 406 Ahatmose 29-Aug-07 17:21
Re: Moderator Note 345 Warwick 01-Sep-07 18:28
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 273 Ahatmose 24-Aug-07 18:42
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 246 caugusto 24-Aug-07 21:34
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 321 Warwick 25-Aug-07 17:29
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 363 Kboldt 24-Aug-07 18:04
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 343 Gary Osborn 24-Aug-07 18:42
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 404 Scott Creighton 24-Aug-07 18:49
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 352 Kboldt 24-Aug-07 19:05
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 299 Ahatmose 24-Aug-07 19:19
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 366 Scott Creighton 24-Aug-07 19:29
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 333 Ahatmose 24-Aug-07 20:16
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 315 Gary Osborn 24-Aug-07 20:45
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 372 Scott Creighton 24-Aug-07 20:53
More Chills... 276 Ghia 25-Aug-07 00:21
Re: More Chills... 335 P Mac 25-Aug-07 11:12
Re: More Chills... 327 Scott Creighton 25-Aug-07 12:31
Re: More Chills... 193 P Mac 25-Aug-07 13:30
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 351 Kboldt 24-Aug-07 19:01
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 367 Gary Osborn 24-Aug-07 19:29
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 425 jnisbet 25-Aug-07 01:48
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 357 Scott Creighton 25-Aug-07 11:00
A shadow beyond the doubt 381 drew 25-Aug-07 03:06
Re: A shadow beyond the doubt 344 jnisbet 25-Aug-07 03:41
Re: A shadow beyond the doubt 419 drew 25-Aug-07 12:43
Re: A shadow beyond the doubt 341 P Mac 25-Aug-07 11:46
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 369 Saravuth 25-Aug-07 14:34
please explain 322 Spiros 25-Aug-07 14:40
Re: please explain 351 Mr. Hunter 25-Aug-07 15:48
Re: please explain 360 magisterchessmutt 26-Aug-07 00:17
Re: please explain 353 Scott Creighton 25-Aug-07 17:11
the solution? 351 Spiros 25-Aug-07 18:53
Re: the solution? 376 Scott Creighton 25-Aug-07 20:49
Re: the solution? 312 Spiros 25-Aug-07 21:50
Re: the solution? 343 Scott Creighton 25-Aug-07 22:11
Re: the solution? 308 Gary Osborn 26-Aug-07 00:23
Re: the solution? 323 Scott Creighton 26-Aug-07 01:21
Re: the solution? 326 Dale Robert Lerch 26-Aug-07 07:47
Re: the solution? 352 Gary Osborn 30-Aug-07 20:28
Re: the solution? 369 Gary Osborn 26-Aug-07 12:37
Re: the solution? 300 Spiros 27-Aug-07 19:18
Re: the solution? 343 Gary Osborn 27-Aug-07 19:23
Question remains unanswered ... at least to me. 364 Ahatmose 26-Aug-07 02:04
Re: Question remains unanswered ... at least to me. 358 Scott Creighton 26-Aug-07 20:05
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 382 Scott Creighton 25-Aug-07 17:17
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 299 magisterchessmutt 26-Aug-07 01:52
Testing and validating the Giza axial tilt theory 429 drrayeye 26-Aug-07 20:29
Re: Testing and validating the Giza axial tilt theory 280 Scott Creighton 27-Aug-07 17:43
Re: Testing and validating the Giza axial tilt theory 376 Ahatmose 27-Aug-07 17:54
Firestone 422 drrayeye 27-Aug-07 20:10
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 333 Richard Essame 27-Aug-07 02:59
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 366 Ghia 27-Aug-07 03:12
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 345 Richard Essame 27-Aug-07 06:38
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 310 magisterchessmutt 27-Aug-07 05:00
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 341 Richard Essame 27-Aug-07 06:04
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 360 magisterchessmutt 27-Aug-07 06:24
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 355 Richard Essame 27-Aug-07 07:12
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 383 Ahatmose 27-Aug-07 14:19
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 356 Scott Creighton 27-Aug-07 14:51
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 376 Ahatmose 27-Aug-07 16:02
Addendum ... 407 Ahatmose 27-Aug-07 16:31
Re: Addendum ... 366 Scott Creighton 27-Aug-07 16:49
Re: Addendum ... 322 Ahatmose 27-Aug-07 17:00
Re: Addendum ... 359 Scott Creighton 27-Aug-07 17:30
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 353 Richard Essame 27-Aug-07 19:28
This may help, Don 336 Cesar 27-Aug-07 22:18
Re: This may help, Don 348 Ghia 27-Aug-07 23:40
Re: This may help, Don 373 Scott Creighton 27-Aug-07 23:59
Re: This may help, Don 355 Cesar 28-Aug-07 02:40
Re: This may help, Don 327 Sirfiroth 28-Aug-07 02:51
Re: This may help, Don 345 Cesar 28-Aug-07 04:12
Re: This may help, Don 399 Sirfiroth 28-Aug-07 05:29
Re: This may help, Don 368 Ahatmose 28-Aug-07 02:15
Re: This may help, Don 381 Cesar 28-Aug-07 04:12
Re: This may help, Don 435 Scott Creighton 28-Aug-07 10:56
Re: This may help, Don 335 Cesar 28-Aug-07 21:44
The Impactor 324 Scott Creighton 28-Aug-07 22:17
Re: This may help, Don 272 Scott Creighton 29-Aug-07 11:38
Intriguing 397 Cesar 01-Sep-07 12:03
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 427 LonelyAngel 27-Aug-07 18:37
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 376 Scott Creighton 27-Aug-07 18:44
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 391 LonelyAngel 28-Aug-07 17:57
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 341 Deep1 28-Aug-07 18:52
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 332 LonelyAngel 29-Aug-07 20:38
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 339 Deep1 29-Aug-07 20:59
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 355 Ahatmose 29-Aug-07 21:23
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 340 LonelyAngel 30-Aug-07 16:24
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 364 Scott Creighton 30-Aug-07 17:02
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 347 LonelyAngel 30-Aug-07 17:43
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 317 Gary Osborn 30-Aug-07 20:01
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 354 Scott Creighton 30-Aug-07 21:17
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 347 Gary Osborn 30-Aug-07 21:44
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 330 LonelyAngel 30-Aug-07 21:57
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 369 Gary Osborn 30-Aug-07 23:40
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 367 Morph 31-Aug-07 11:39
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 355 Scott Creighton 28-Aug-07 18:55
One major problem as I see it ... 316 Ahatmose 28-Aug-07 23:07
Re: One major problem as I see it ... 373 P Mac 29-Aug-07 00:02
Re: One major problem as I see it ... 304 magisterchessmutt 29-Aug-07 00:25
Re: One major problem as I see it ... 386 Richard Essame 29-Aug-07 00:33
Re: One major problem as I see it ... 360 Ahatmose 29-Aug-07 02:39
Re: One major problem as I see it ... 372 Richard Essame 29-Aug-07 03:04
Re: One major problem as I see it ... 398 Ahatmose 29-Aug-07 03:15
Re: One major problem as I see it ... 347 Richard Essame 29-Aug-07 05:24
Re: One major problem as I see it ... 289 Cesar 29-Aug-07 02:21
Re: One major problem as I see it ... 367 caugusto 29-Aug-07 04:40
Re: One major Solution? 347 Scott Creighton 29-Aug-07 09:56
Re: One major Solution? 404 Ahatmose 29-Aug-07 17:47
Re: One major Solution? 314 Richard Essame 30-Aug-07 00:16
Re: One major Solution? 361 Richard Essame 30-Aug-07 19:24
Re: One major Solution? 406 P Mac 31-Aug-07 12:44
Re: One major Solution? 345 Richard Essame 31-Aug-07 23:39
Re: One major Solution? 338 Scott Creighton 01-Sep-07 10:25
Re: One major Solution? 308 P Mac 01-Sep-07 16:13
Re: One major Solution? 351 P Mac 02-Sep-07 00:23
Re: One major Solution? 349 Ahatmose 02-Sep-07 01:50
Or another solution... 379 drew 29-Aug-07 21:35
Re: Or another solution... 309 Jackfrost 30-Aug-07 15:46
Re: Or another solution... 304 P Mac 30-Aug-07 16:39
Re: Or another solution... 367 Jackfrost 31-Aug-07 10:55
Re: Or another solution... 385 P Mac 31-Aug-07 16:01
Re: Or another solution... 371 Richard Essame 01-Sep-07 01:57


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