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You know, your comment about finding the "common ancestor", as well as Susan's reference to Richard Dawkins puts me in mind of something I learned from a couple of botanists.

I have already mentioned that I am not a scientist, unless you consider someone with an MBA who sort of understands the "dismal science" of economics to be a scientist LOL! But I have always enjoyed science, and my wife and I are always taking a science course or two at the local junior college; I guess we know just enough to be dangerous.

We also work as volunteers at a local arboretum in Arizona, and went to a couple of colloquia on plant taxonomy with some botanists specializing in desert plants.

It seems that, although they still teach Linnaeus' binomial classification, as well as the Kingdom-Phylum-Class-Order-Family-Genus-Species thingy, it's no longer considered a big deal.

Instead, they use molelecular systematics (mitochondrial DNA comparisons) to determine at what point in time two species have diverged, which has led to a de facto investigation of plants as being either the same species (i.e., they can interbreed and produce viable ofspring) or not; and if not, how far back did they diverge.

This is exactly the approach Dawkins makes in his "Ancestor's Tale". Although I still feel an emotional atachment to Linnaeus' classification, I suppose the present way makes more sense, although I'm also guessing that Biblical literalists would have a hard time with it, since it makes several assumptions which are at the same time quite basic and quite anti-Bible.

"Given any kind of real choice as children, we'd all be Christians because they have hot dogs with mustard and pickle-relish."

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The missing link is still missing 205 Citizen Attorney 29-Nov-06 13:29
I don't believe thre's a missing link per se. 399 Duncan Kunz 29-Nov-06 16:49
Re: I don't believe thre's a missing link per se. 250 Susan Doris 29-Nov-06 20:00
Reed Richards as the Missing Link? 144 Me 30-Nov-06 00:59
Brother Dawkins 164 Duncan Kunz 30-Nov-06 16:52
Re: Brother Dawkins 153 Susan Doris 30-Nov-06 19:20
Well-said, Duncan. 147 AndyBlackard 30-Nov-06 22:12
Re: Well-said, Duncan. 167 Duncan Kunz 01-Dec-06 16:04
Re: Well-said, Duncan. 129 AndyBlackard 01-Dec-06 16:13
Re: Well-said, Duncan. 166 Citizen Attorney 02-Dec-06 03:39
Re: Well-said, Duncan. 143 Me 02-Dec-06 23:34
Re: Well-said, Duncan. 164 AndyBlackard 03-Dec-06 02:52
Re: Well-said, Duncan. 199 Susan Doris 03-Dec-06 08:19
Re: Well-said, Duncan. 154 Citizen Attorney 03-Dec-06 03:44
Re: Well-said, Duncan. 129 AndyBlackard 03-Dec-06 04:49
Brain Size and diet? 125 W_C_Sally 03-Dec-06 08:33
Re: Brain Size and diet? 118 AndyBlackard 03-Dec-06 12:37
Re: Brain Size and diet? 143 Me 03-Dec-06 23:52
Best ratio is 50 - 50, usually not the norm, but in olden days, ?? 166 W_C_Sally 13-Dec-06 06:34
Re: The missing link is still missing 107 Raja 29-Nov-06 17:55
Re: The missing link is still missing 143 Raja 29-Nov-06 18:45
Re: The missing link is still missing 125 Duncan Kunz 30-Nov-06 17:08
Re: The missing link is still missing 123 Raja 30-Nov-06 21:11
Re: The missing link is still missing, oh no, there he is! 155 Me 01-Dec-06 00:09
Re: The missing link is still missing, oh no, there he is! 146 Raja 02-Dec-06 09:26

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