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Gerd, thank you for not pushing forward a specific pharoah's name as being the model for the face; 'typically 4th dynasty characteristics' I can live with.

You remarked that it was not proven that the head was completely recarved, or was originally proportional, and you go for the retouched idea.
While granting this as possible, i'm afraid I would still have to lean strongly (a full %80) toward an original proportionality and probable leonine features; I base this on the bulk of the images (anthropomorphic) of Eqypt's gods /god-kings. If Horus was pictured with a tiny, proper sized falcon's head on a proper, life-sized-scale human body, I could probably accept the Sphinx's current head as original. But, for the most part, ancient Egyptions did a rather good job of modifying the heads in their images to reasonably well match the body they were depicting attatched to that head.

The current Sphinx head, particularly if you remove the head-dress, is strikingly puny in relation to the rest of the body, and an original leonine head, (with mane, especially) would provide ample room for a full recarve, even is there had been significant weathering present.

I suppose we'll continue to disagree. Well, we will both get over that, I'm sure. Cheerio!

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Raindrops are falling on my.............................................Sphinx ? 500 G. VDC 12-Jan-04 06:09
Re: Raindrops are falling on my.............................................Sphinx ? 227 Jaimi 12-Jan-04 07:22
Colin Reader's reply... 234 Jaimi 12-Jan-04 07:38
Re: Raindrops are falling on my.............................................Sphinx ? 251 G. VDC 12-Jan-04 08:09
And also... 255 G. VDC 12-Jan-04 08:27
Re: And also... 244 Cynnara 12-Jan-04 08:56
Re: And also... 233 Steve_L 13-Jan-04 18:28
terminology mish mash 214 W. L. Nixon 13-Jan-04 18:37
Re: terminology mish mash 221 Steve_L 13-Jan-04 18:41
Re: terminology mish mash 246 R Avry Wilson 14-Jan-04 02:41
Re: terminology mish mash 218 Steve_L 14-Jan-04 02:48
Re: Raindrops are falling on my.............................................Sphinx ? 229 Jaimi 12-Jan-04 14:06
Re: Raindrops are falling on my.............................................Sphin x ? 210 G. VDC 13-Jan-04 08:57
Re: Raindrops are falling on my.............................................Sphinx ? 223 R Avry Wilson 12-Jan-04 07:23
I agree 100% 211 Steve_L 13-Jan-04 01:40
Another possibility..... 227 Bent 13-Jan-04 02:24
Re: Another possibility..... 219 Steve_L 13-Jan-04 02:31
Re: Another possibility..... 234 Bent 13-Jan-04 03:02
Re: Another possibility..... 239 Steve_L 13-Jan-04 03:05
Re: Another possibility.??.... 248 Johnee 13-Jan-04 03:36
Re: Another possibility.??.... 209 Steve_L 13-Jan-04 03:44
Re: Another possibility.??.... 232 Johnee 13-Jan-04 05:07
Re: Another possibility.??.... 243 Jaimi 13-Jan-04 05:52
Re: Another possibility.??.... 204 Johnee 13-Jan-04 07:52
Re: Another possibility.??.... 225 Steve_L 13-Jan-04 05:56
Re: I agree 100% 259 R Avry Wilson 13-Jan-04 09:12
Re: I agree 100% 242 Steve_L 13-Jan-04 15:39
Re: Raindrops are falling on my.............................................Sphinx ? 236 Anne-Marie 13-Jan-04 07:36
Re: Raindrops are falling on my.............................................Sphinx ? 218 Anne-Marie 13-Jan-04 07:37
Re: Raindrops are falling on my.............................................Sphi 257 Archae Solenhofen 13-Jan-04 08:10
Re: Raindrops are falling on my.............................................Sphi 206 R Avry Wilson 13-Jan-04 08:59
Re: Raindrops are falling on my.............................................Sphi 229 Steve_L 13-Jan-04 15:51
Re: Raindrops are falling on my.............................................Sphinx ? 226 G. VDC 15-Jan-04 06:38
Re: Raindrops are falling on my.............................................Sphinx ? 203 Richard Essame 12-Jan-04 07:34
Re: Raindrops are falling on my.............................................Sphi 273 SunSword 12-Jan-04 14:31
Re: Raindrops are falling on my.............................................Sphinx ? 245 ArmchairObserver 12-Jan-04 17:53
Re: Raindrops are falling on my.............................................Sphinx ? 238 ArmchairObserver 12-Jan-04 18:17
Re: Raindrops are falling on my.............................................Sphinx ? 262 W. L. Nixon 12-Jan-04 18:51
Re: Raindrops are falling on my.............................................Sphinx ? 245 Steve_L 12-Jan-04 19:19
Re: Raindrops are falling on my.............................................Sphin x ? 228 W. L. Nixon 12-Jan-04 19:27
Re: Raindrops are falling on my.............................................Sph inx ? 246 Steve_L 12-Jan-04 19:32
Re: Raindrops are falling on my.............................................S phinx ? 233 W. L. Nixon 12-Jan-04 19:40
Re: Raindrops are falling on my............................................ .Sphinx ? 313 Steve_L 12-Jan-04 19:47
Re: Raindrops are falling on my.......................................... ...Sphinx ? 234 W. L. Nixon 12-Jan-04 20:49
Re: Raindrops are falling on my........................................ .....Sphinx ? 239 Steve_L 12-Jan-04 21:59
Re: Raindrops are falling on my...................................... .......Sphinx ? 242 G. VDC 13-Jan-04 05:48
Re: Raindrops are falling on my.................................... .........Sphinx ? 256 Claire 13-Jan-04 09:30
Re: Raindrops are falling on my.................................. ...........Sphinx ? 234 G. VDC 13-Jan-04 09:45
Re: Raindrops are falling on my................................ .............Sphinx ? 238 Claire 13-Jan-04 12:26
PS..... 250 Claire 13-Jan-04 12:32
Re: Raindrops are falling on my.............................. ...............Sphinx ? 259 G. VDC 13-Jan-04 12:41
Re: Raindrops are falling on my............................ .................Sphinx ? 228 Claire 13-Jan-04 13:16
Re: Raindrops are falling on my.......................... ...................Sphinx ? 235 G. VDC 14-Jan-04 06:08
Re: Raindrops are falling on my........................ .....................Sphin x ? 247 scimitar 14-Jan-04 09:34
Re: Raindrops are falling on my........................ .....................Sphin x ? 230 Claire 14-Jan-04 10:29
Re: Raindrops are falling on my........................ .....................Sphin x ? 270 R Avry Wilson 14-Jan-04 13:35
Re: Raindrops are falling on my...................... .......................S phinx ? 238 G. VDC 15-Jan-04 06:03
Re: Raindrops are falling on my.................................. ...........Sphinx ? 209 Steve_L 13-Jan-04 15:53
Re: Raindrops are falling on my................................ .............Sphinx ? 205 Steve_L 13-Jan-04 16:09
Re: Raindrops are falling on my.................................... .........Sphinx ? 266 Steve_L 13-Jan-04 17:37
Re: Raindrops are falling on my.................................. ...........Sphinx ? 226 G. VDC 14-Jan-04 06:40
Re: Raindrops are falling on my................................ .............Sphinx ? 226 Steve_L 14-Jan-04 08:43
Re: Raindrops are falling on my.............................. ...............Sphinx ? 227 W. L. Nixon 14-Jan-04 18:15
Re: Raindrops are falling on my............................ .................Sphinx ? 211 Steve_L 14-Jan-04 20:40
Re: Raindrops are falling on my.......................... ...................Sphinx ? 224 W. L. Nixon 14-Jan-04 20:45
Re: Raindrops are falling on my........................ .....................Sphin x ? 228 Steve_L 14-Jan-04 21:16
You say what? 242 W. L. Nixon 14-Jan-04 21:33
Re: You say what? 224 Steve_L 14-Jan-04 21:44
Re: You say what? 236 Steve_L 14-Jan-04 21:48
Got your brick? 235 Steve_L 14-Jan-04 21:49
Simply.. 228 W. L. Nixon 15-Jan-04 16:10
Re: Raindrops are falling on my............................................ .Sphinx ? 207 Bent 12-Jan-04 19:50
Re: Raindrops are falling on my.......................................... ...Sphinx ? 237 Steve_L 12-Jan-04 19:55
Re: Raindrops are falling on my........................................ .....Sphinx ? 202 Bent 12-Jan-04 20:01
Re: Raindrops are falling on my...................................... .......Sphinx ? 219 Steve_L 12-Jan-04 20:02
Re: Raindrops are falling on my.................................... .........Sphinx ? 233 Bent 12-Jan-04 20:07
Re: Raindrops are falling on my.................................. ...........Sphinx ? 236 Steve_L 12-Jan-04 20:08
Re: Raindrops are falling on my................................ .............Sphinx ? 286 Bent 12-Jan-04 20:27
Re: Raindrops are falling on my.............................................S phinx ? 250 ArmchairObserver 12-Jan-04 20:20
Re: Raindrops are falling on my.............................................S phinx ? 231 Anne-Marie 12-Jan-04 21:04
Re: Raindrops are falling on my............................................ .Sphinx ? 234 W. L. Nixon 12-Jan-04 21:20
Re: Raindrops are falling on my.......................................... ...Sphinx ? 228 Anne-Marie 12-Jan-04 21:27
Re: Raindrops are falling on my............................................ .Sphinx ? 225 ArmchairObserver 12-Jan-04 21:35
Re: Raindrops are falling on my.......................................... ...Sphinx ? 251 Anne-Marie 12-Jan-04 21:55
Re: Raindrops are falling on my........................................ .....Sphinx ? 251 mdsquared 13-Jan-04 18:27
Re: Raindrops are falling on my...................................... .......Sphinx ? 265 Steve_L 13-Jan-04 18:31
Re: Raindrops are falling on my.................................... .........Sphinx ? 247 mdsquared 13-Jan-04 18:46
Re: Raindrops are falling on my.................................. ...........Sphinx ? 240 Steve_L 13-Jan-04 18:53
Re: Raindrops are falling on my................................ .............Sphinx ? 230 mdsquared 13-Jan-04 19:05
Hold on Steve 203 W. L. Nixon 13-Jan-04 19:13
Re: Hold on Steve 203 Steve_L 13-Jan-04 19:28
If you insist, I will ECHO! 242 W. L. Nixon 13-Jan-04 19:36
Re: If you insist, I will ECHO! 234 Steve_L 13-Jan-04 19:45
Re: If you insist, I will ECHO! 242 Steve_L 13-Jan-04 19:56
Re: If you insist, I will ECHO! 230 W. L. Nixon 13-Jan-04 20:04
No caps please Warwick! 238 Jaimi 13-Jan-04 21:15
Re: No caps please Warwick! 212 W. L. Nixon 14-Jan-04 18:17
Re: Hold on Steve 266 mdsquared 13-Jan-04 20:02
Re: Hold on Steve 233 Steve_L 13-Jan-04 20:33
Re: Hold on Steve 238 Cynnara 13-Jan-04 23:25
Re: Hold on Steve 193 Bent 14-Jan-04 00:17
The Problem with 'Wet Sand' 237 R Avry Wilson 14-Jan-04 02:59
Re: The Problem with 'Wet Sand' 242 Bent 14-Jan-04 03:38
Re: Hold on Steve 224 Cynnara 14-Jan-04 04:41
Re: Hold on Steve 241 Bent 14-Jan-04 06:18
Re: Hold on Steve 245 Cynnara 14-Jan-04 06:41
Re: Hold on Steve 232 Bent 14-Jan-04 07:10
Re: Hold on Steve 239 Cynnara 14-Jan-04 07:43
Re: Hold on Steve 242 Zosimos 14-Jan-04 19:54
Re: Hold on Steve 243 scimitar 14-Jan-04 09:54
Re: Hold on Steve 232 G. VDC 14-Jan-04 06:11
Re: Hold on Steve 234 Anne-Marie 13-Jan-04 19:38
Re: Raindrops are falling on my................................ .............Sphinx ? 220 Cynnara 13-Jan-04 23:14
Re: Raindrops are falling on my.............................. ...............Sphinx ? 195 Steve_L 13-Jan-04 23:30
Re: Raindrops are falling on my............................ .................Sphinx ? 212 Cynnara 13-Jan-04 23:35
I think you're being unfair 275 Claire 14-Jan-04 10:06
Re: I think you're being unfair 233 Steve_L 14-Jan-04 21:20
simpler still 258 W. L. Nixon 14-Jan-04 21:37
Re: Raindrops are falling on my............................ .................Sphinx ? 250 Cynnara 13-Jan-04 23:38
Re: Raindrops are falling on my.......................... ...................Sphinx ? 229 Steve_L 13-Jan-04 23:58
Re: Raindrops are falling on my........................ .....................Sphin x ? 191 Cynnara 14-Jan-04 00:03
Re: Raindrops are falling on my...................... .......................S phinx ? 254 Steve_L 14-Jan-04 00:48
Consensus 219 Steve_L 14-Jan-04 00:52
Re: Raindrops are falling on my.................... ...................... ...Sphinx ? 176 Cynnara 14-Jan-04 05:59
Re: Raindrops are falling on my.......................................... ...Sphinx ? 218 Anne-Marie 12-Jan-04 21:56
Re: Raindrops are falling on my.......................................... ...Sphinx ? 207 Anne-Marie 12-Jan-04 21:57
Re: Raindrops are falling on my........................................ .....Sphinx ? 205 Steve_L 12-Jan-04 22:05
Re: Raindrops are falling on my........................................ .....Sphinx ? 217 Anne-Marie 12-Jan-04 22:11
Re: Raindrops are falling on my...................................... .......Sphinx ? 234 W. L. Nixon 12-Jan-04 22:19
Re: Raindrops are falling on my...................................... .......Sphinx ? 221 Steve_L 13-Jan-04 02:19
Re: Raindrops are falling on my...................................... .......Sphinx ? 236 G. VDC 13-Jan-04 06:06
Re: Raindrops are falling on my............................................ .Sphinx ? 256 G. VDC 13-Jan-04 05:57
Re: Raindrops are falling on my.......................................... ...Sphinx ? 239 Steve_L 13-Jan-04 06:00
Re: Raindrops are falling on my.............................................Sphinx ? 214 Steve_L 12-Jan-04 20:07
Re: Raindrops are falling on my.............................................Sphinx ? 223 Bent 12-Jan-04 20:10
Re: Raindrops are falling on my.............................................Sphin x ? 197 Steve_L 12-Jan-04 20:12
Re: Raindrops are falling on my.............................................Sph inx ? 227 Bent 12-Jan-04 20:23
Re: Raindrops are falling on my.............................................S phinx ? 218 Steve_L 12-Jan-04 21:14
Re: Raindrops are falling on my.............................................Sphinx ? 232 rainman 13-Jan-04 00:47
Re: Raindrops are falling on my.............................................Sphinx ? 187 Bent 13-Jan-04 01:11
Re: Raindrops are falling on my.............................................Sphinx ? 243 rainman 13-Jan-04 01:28
Re: Raindrops are falling on my.............................................Sphin x ? 221 Steve_L 13-Jan-04 02:34
Re: Raindrops are falling on my.............................................Sphin x ? 228 Steve_L 13-Jan-04 02:39
Re: Raindrops are falling on my.............................................Sph inx ? 233 rainman 13-Jan-04 02:50
Re: Raindrops are falling on my.............................................S phinx ? 235 Steve_L 13-Jan-04 02:56
Re: Raindrops are falling on my.............................................Sphinx ? 234 rainman 13-Jan-04 02:56
Re: Raindrops are falling on my.............................................Sphin x ? 257 Steve_L 13-Jan-04 02:58
Re: Raindrops are falling on my.............................................Sph inx ? 186 rainman 13-Jan-04 02:59
A bit of moderation, please!! 247 Steve_L 13-Jan-04 03:03
Re: A bit of moderation, please!! 222 rainman 13-Jan-04 03:21
R.O.T.F.L.M.A.O/PP 225 Steve_L 13-Jan-04 03:28
Re: R.O.T.F.L.M.A.O/PP 242 Steve_L 13-Jan-04 03:30
Steve... 245 Jaimi 13-Jan-04 04:36
Re: Steve... 223 Steve_L 13-Jan-04 05:55
Re: Steve... 188 Steve_L 13-Jan-04 06:04
Poster Banned 224 Jaimi 13-Jan-04 04:17
Re: Poster Banned 202 Anne-Marie 13-Jan-04 08:29
Re: Poster Banned 183 Jaimi 13-Jan-04 15:09
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Re: Poster Banned 224 Steve_L 13-Jan-04 16:19
Re: Poster Banned 216 Anne-Marie 13-Jan-04 17:41
Re: Poster Banned 238 Steve_L 13-Jan-04 18:17
Re: Poster Banned 215 Anne-Marie 13-Jan-04 19:47
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Please Anne... 228 W. L. Nixon 13-Jan-04 18:10
Re: Please Anne... 226 Anne-Marie 13-Jan-04 19:50
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Re: Gutters and drains in AE attn: Gerd 213 ArmchairObserver 13-Jan-04 16:13
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