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Thanos5150 Wrote:
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> You made a comment about Saqarra and mastabas
> leading to pyramids. Mastabas are rectangular and
> the core of Djoser (M1) is a square and is debated
> whether it was ever intended to be a mastaba.
> Stadelmann suggest this was the nucleus of a
> planned pyramid, I disagree, but regardless there
> is no doubt it was built first. These are the
> facts which as usual you dismiss them at your own
> peril. The tower core of Meidum sits on a square
> base which its similarity to Djoser M1 is not lost
> on Egyptologists either.

>
> The Meidum tower core, and the other stepped tower
> cores we see, are in principle nothing more than
> mastabas extended in height. Medium does have a
> simple core which was expanded in width and height
> by using accretion layers to make the tower form
> we see today.

The question is what is the purpose of this tower core. What is the purpose of the steps?

There isn't only a single means to build a pyramid and there isn't a single reason to build a monument, mnemonic, or monolith in the shape of a pyramid. Every single facet and characteristic of the pyramid including those linguists refuse to measure, has a reason or purpose for its existence. These things very rarely, if ever, owe their existence to religion or magic. You don't build flying buttresses for religious purposes or to please God, you build them to hold up a cathedral. You don't string wire across a river for magic, you do it to build a suspension bridge. The presupposition that mastabas had to reach the sky for proper ascension is sheer nonsense; they had a function and no amount of studying the incantation and book of the dead will answer the first or any other question about the nature of the function, reasons, or purposes of ANY feature of the pyramid. Such endeavors are PURE speculation based on appearances and similarities. They are Look and See Science.

I've provided perfectly good hypotheses about these. If I'm right then soon enough these hypotheses will simply be called "obvious deduction".

> You are literally just making up the idea a tower
> core is more difficult to build for no other
> reason than you want to crate a reason not to make
> it despite the clear evidence to the contrary. You
> ass talks and your fingers type. A tower core is
> not more difficult to build and in reality
> probably much easier.

Of course a tower core is harder to build for obvious reasons. ANY method of lifting stone is more difficult the higher you go and the steeper you make the sides. Tower cores are apparently more solid and heavier meaning there are more stones (more weight) per unit volume. Even if I'm right and no human ever lifted a stone the fact remains that pulleys and ropes wear out faster on a 70 degree corner than a 50 degree.

Is it really necessary to list every possible means to lift stones and then show that vertical walls make it harder?

> Sweet Christmas. And yet there it is:
>

...With the steps they used for ramps/ mounds/ battlements/ etc/ etc lying collapsed right where they had once helped lift the stones to build the tower core.

We're looking in all the wrong places for "ramps". They are right there in the gravimetric scan but people see their beliefs instead of what's right before their eyes. We now have science by consensus rather than experiment and those who form that same consensus aren't allowed the data from century old technology.

Man fears the pyramid, time fears man.



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 11-Apr-20 13:29 by cladking.

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Anastasi I Papyrus: Ramp Building 786 Thanos5150 05-Apr-20 02:41
Re: Anastasi I Papyrus: Ramp Building 183 seasmith 05-Apr-20 04:18
Re: Anastasi I Papyrus: Ramp Building 165 thinkitover 05-Apr-20 11:08
Re: Anastasi I Papyrus: Ramp Building 154 Dr. Troglodyte 05-Apr-20 14:26
Re: Anastasi I Papyrus: Ramp Building 146 Thanos5150 05-Apr-20 15:13
Re: Anastasi I Papyrus: Ramp Building 167 cladking 05-Apr-20 13:54
Re: Anastasi I Papyrus: Ramp Building 153 Thanos5150 06-Apr-20 01:41
Re: Anastasi I Papyrus: Ramp Building 140 cladking 06-Apr-20 03:22
Re: Anastasi I Papyrus: Ramp Building 182 Thanos5150 06-Apr-20 04:21
Re: Anastasi I Papyrus: Ramp Building 144 cladking 06-Apr-20 14:25
Re: Anastasi I Papyrus: Ramp Building 123 cladking 06-Apr-20 14:55
Re: Anastasi I Papyrus: Ramp Building 135 Thanos5150 06-Apr-20 15:58
Re: Anastasi I Papyrus: Ramp Building 131 Steve Clayton 06-Apr-20 17:44
Re: Anastasi I Papyrus: Ramp Building 153 Thanos5150 06-Apr-20 23:24
Re: Anastasi I Papyrus: Ramp Building 145 seasmith 07-Apr-20 03:01
Re: Anastasi I Papyrus: Ramp Building 151 Thanos5150 07-Apr-20 04:15
Re: Anastasi I Papyrus: Ramp Building 149 cladking 08-Apr-20 14:59
Re: Anastasi I Papyrus: Ramp Building 150 Thanos5150 08-Apr-20 16:13
Re: Anastasi I Papyrus: Ramp Building 147 Eddie Larry 08-Apr-20 17:15
Mebbe mastabas were build around a tower core. n/t 136 cladking 09-Apr-20 13:50
Re: Mebbe mastabas were build around a tower core. n/t 146 Thanos5150 09-Apr-20 15:59
Re: Mebbe mastabas were build around a tower core. n/t 161 cladking 09-Apr-20 16:10
Re: Mebbe mastabas were build around a tower core 130 thinkitover 10-Apr-20 04:53
Re: Mebbe mastabas were build around a tower core 145 cladking 10-Apr-20 14:10
Re: Mebbe mastabas were build around a tower core. n/t 188 Thanos5150 10-Apr-20 22:42
Re: Mebbe mastabas were build around a tower core. n/t 144 cladking 11-Apr-20 13:23
Re: Mebbe mastabas were build around a tower core. n/t 143 cladking 11-Apr-20 13:48
Re: Mebbe mastabas were build around a tower core. n/t 138 Thanos5150 11-Apr-20 16:31
Re: Mebbe mastabas were build around a tower core. n/t 152 cladking 11-Apr-20 16:55
Re: Anastasi I Papyrus: Ramp Building 161 Thanos5150 20-Apr-20 04:02
Re: Anastasi I Papyrus: Ramp Building 198 Steve Clayton 20-Apr-20 21:06
Re: Anastasi I Papyrus: Ramp Building 152 Dr. Troglodyte 05-Apr-20 14:25
Re: Anastasi I Papyrus: Ramp Building 154 Thanos5150 05-Apr-20 15:15
Re: Anastasi I Papyrus: Ramp Building 157 Steve Clayton 05-Apr-20 15:44
. 135 Manu 05-Apr-20 17:50
Re: Anastasi I Papyrus: Ramp Building 139 Dr. Troglodyte 05-Apr-20 21:22
Re: Anastasi I Papyrus: Ramp Building 135 Steve Clayton 06-Apr-20 05:19
Re: Anastasi I Papyrus: Ramp Building 136 Dr. Troglodyte 06-Apr-20 18:15
Re: Anastasi I Papyrus: Ramp Building 138 Steve Clayton 06-Apr-20 20:07
Zawayet El-Aryan, Ramp 174 Manu 05-Apr-20 17:53
Re: Zawayet El-Aryan, Ramp 134 cladking 06-Apr-20 00:45
Re: Zawayet El-Aryan, Ramp 147 Manu 06-Apr-20 01:27
Re: Zawayet El-Aryan, Ramp 138 cladking 06-Apr-20 02:21
Re: Zawayet El-Aryan, Ramp 177 eyeofhorus33 06-Apr-20 14:57
Re: Zawayet El-Aryan, Ramp 142 Steve Clayton 06-Apr-20 15:36
Re: Zawayet El-Aryan, Ramp 148 cladking 06-Apr-20 16:20
Stone Block Math 157 Manu 07-Apr-20 05:32
Re: Stone Block Math 149 Thanos5150 07-Apr-20 18:12
Re: Stone Block Math 152 Manu 07-Apr-20 20:57
Re: Stone Block Math 136 cladking 08-Apr-20 14:35
Re: Zawayet El-Aryan, Ramp 153 cladking 06-Apr-20 16:00
Re: Zawayet El-Aryan, Ramp 170 eyeofhorus33 08-Apr-20 18:14
Re: Zawayet El-Aryan, Ramp 139 Thanos5150 06-Apr-20 01:10
Anastasi I vs the ADA 150 Dr. Troglodyte 06-Apr-20 23:08
Re: Anastasi I vs the ADA 142 Thanos5150 07-Apr-20 04:32
Re: Anastasi I Papyrus: Ramp Building 151 Steve Clayton 14-Apr-20 17:40


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