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Steve Clayton Wrote:
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> Not speaking at you, thou through you...
>
> The reason I don't believe in ramps, as the math
> doesn't add up. I can't read Egyptian. I look at
> it purely as an engineering issue.
>
> I find the bulk of individuals who contend ramps
> as the solution, cannot even do math, as they
> never attempt to qualify those ramp theories. Why
> is that?
>
> I dare anyone up here on GH, to show us, how wide
> those ramps would need to be, the grade, and how
> many men would occupy that space, pulling stones
> nearly 1 mile uphill. Remember, they can't stop
> and rest...
>
> Here is the math condition to meet. 1 stone every
> 3 minutes within 20 years, and/or 30 years, what
> ever. How many teams of men, their number per
> team, their width and length, and their speed of
> travel.
>
> Try that on for size, and show me how it works. I
> doubt very much anyone will take me up on my
> offer. Why? Because they can't or will not do the
> math. It's just easier to believe in the herd
> mentality. It's safer, and causes less stress...

You might as well give up. Virtually every single ramp theory has never been thoughtr out because "ramps" are a belief and believers never need to think things through. Every line of thought comes back to "they mustta made ramps work somehow because the pyramid exists". EVERY belief is exactly the same and everything we see and do reflects those beliefs we chose initially.

If you challenge one of the nonsensical ramp designs the words will reflect their beliefs because they are not thought out. The words will twist and turn more than any ramp ever could asnd will begin to describe an Escher print at some point;



it's a shame Escher never drew any pyramid ramps since no one else could do them justice. Some of the ramp proposals stranded 100's of millions of Egyptians at the top because they provide no means for the men to get back down. It simply doesn't matter to believers that there is no physical evidence for ramps and there is a simpler, easier, and far more efficient means that is very well evidenced. It just doesn't matter that the evidence and the entire cultural context shows stones were pulled straight up the sides of five step pyramids one step at a time. Who needs facts when belief describes exactly what we each want to see? I want to see rational humans and Egyptologists want to see superstition that has given way to modern omniscience. We ALL put the cart before the horse but at no time has it been more obvious than it is with the outmoded, outdated, and obsolete notion that ancient people could only have dragged stones up ramps.

Man fears the pyramid, time fears man.

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Anastasi I Papyrus: Ramp Building 785 Thanos5150 05-Apr-20 02:41
Re: Anastasi I Papyrus: Ramp Building 182 seasmith 05-Apr-20 04:18
Re: Anastasi I Papyrus: Ramp Building 165 thinkitover 05-Apr-20 11:08
Re: Anastasi I Papyrus: Ramp Building 154 Dr. Troglodyte 05-Apr-20 14:26
Re: Anastasi I Papyrus: Ramp Building 145 Thanos5150 05-Apr-20 15:13
Re: Anastasi I Papyrus: Ramp Building 167 cladking 05-Apr-20 13:54
Re: Anastasi I Papyrus: Ramp Building 153 Thanos5150 06-Apr-20 01:41
Re: Anastasi I Papyrus: Ramp Building 140 cladking 06-Apr-20 03:22
Re: Anastasi I Papyrus: Ramp Building 181 Thanos5150 06-Apr-20 04:21
Re: Anastasi I Papyrus: Ramp Building 144 cladking 06-Apr-20 14:25
Re: Anastasi I Papyrus: Ramp Building 123 cladking 06-Apr-20 14:55
Re: Anastasi I Papyrus: Ramp Building 135 Thanos5150 06-Apr-20 15:58
Re: Anastasi I Papyrus: Ramp Building 131 Steve Clayton 06-Apr-20 17:44
Re: Anastasi I Papyrus: Ramp Building 153 Thanos5150 06-Apr-20 23:24
Re: Anastasi I Papyrus: Ramp Building 145 seasmith 07-Apr-20 03:01
Re: Anastasi I Papyrus: Ramp Building 151 Thanos5150 07-Apr-20 04:15
Re: Anastasi I Papyrus: Ramp Building 149 cladking 08-Apr-20 14:59
Re: Anastasi I Papyrus: Ramp Building 150 Thanos5150 08-Apr-20 16:13
Re: Anastasi I Papyrus: Ramp Building 147 Eddie Larry 08-Apr-20 17:15
Mebbe mastabas were build around a tower core. n/t 135 cladking 09-Apr-20 13:50
Re: Mebbe mastabas were build around a tower core. n/t 145 Thanos5150 09-Apr-20 15:59
Re: Mebbe mastabas were build around a tower core. n/t 161 cladking 09-Apr-20 16:10
Re: Mebbe mastabas were build around a tower core 130 thinkitover 10-Apr-20 04:53
Re: Mebbe mastabas were build around a tower core 145 cladking 10-Apr-20 14:10
Re: Mebbe mastabas were build around a tower core. n/t 188 Thanos5150 10-Apr-20 22:42
Re: Mebbe mastabas were build around a tower core. n/t 144 cladking 11-Apr-20 13:23
Re: Mebbe mastabas were build around a tower core. n/t 143 cladking 11-Apr-20 13:48
Re: Mebbe mastabas were build around a tower core. n/t 137 Thanos5150 11-Apr-20 16:31
Re: Mebbe mastabas were build around a tower core. n/t 152 cladking 11-Apr-20 16:55
Re: Anastasi I Papyrus: Ramp Building 161 Thanos5150 20-Apr-20 04:02
Re: Anastasi I Papyrus: Ramp Building 198 Steve Clayton 20-Apr-20 21:06
Re: Anastasi I Papyrus: Ramp Building 152 Dr. Troglodyte 05-Apr-20 14:25
Re: Anastasi I Papyrus: Ramp Building 153 Thanos5150 05-Apr-20 15:15
Re: Anastasi I Papyrus: Ramp Building 156 Steve Clayton 05-Apr-20 15:44
. 135 Manu 05-Apr-20 17:50
Re: Anastasi I Papyrus: Ramp Building 139 Dr. Troglodyte 05-Apr-20 21:22
Re: Anastasi I Papyrus: Ramp Building 135 Steve Clayton 06-Apr-20 05:19
Re: Anastasi I Papyrus: Ramp Building 136 Dr. Troglodyte 06-Apr-20 18:15
Re: Anastasi I Papyrus: Ramp Building 137 Steve Clayton 06-Apr-20 20:07
Zawayet El-Aryan, Ramp 174 Manu 05-Apr-20 17:53
Re: Zawayet El-Aryan, Ramp 134 cladking 06-Apr-20 00:45
Re: Zawayet El-Aryan, Ramp 147 Manu 06-Apr-20 01:27
Re: Zawayet El-Aryan, Ramp 138 cladking 06-Apr-20 02:21
Re: Zawayet El-Aryan, Ramp 177 eyeofhorus33 06-Apr-20 14:57
Re: Zawayet El-Aryan, Ramp 142 Steve Clayton 06-Apr-20 15:36
Re: Zawayet El-Aryan, Ramp 147 cladking 06-Apr-20 16:20
Stone Block Math 157 Manu 07-Apr-20 05:32
Re: Stone Block Math 149 Thanos5150 07-Apr-20 18:12
Re: Stone Block Math 152 Manu 07-Apr-20 20:57
Re: Stone Block Math 135 cladking 08-Apr-20 14:35
Re: Zawayet El-Aryan, Ramp 153 cladking 06-Apr-20 16:00
Re: Zawayet El-Aryan, Ramp 170 eyeofhorus33 08-Apr-20 18:14
Re: Zawayet El-Aryan, Ramp 139 Thanos5150 06-Apr-20 01:10
Anastasi I vs the ADA 150 Dr. Troglodyte 06-Apr-20 23:08
Re: Anastasi I vs the ADA 142 Thanos5150 07-Apr-20 04:32
Re: Anastasi I Papyrus: Ramp Building 151 Steve Clayton 14-Apr-20 17:40


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