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Hi, Steve

It seems to me as if perhaps you might have already nailed quite a bit of it in your post of 19th March?

Quote from Herodotus: (Histories 2.124) "For the underground chambers on the heights upon which the pyramids stand, which he [Cheops] caused to made as sepulchral chambers for himself an island, having conducted a channel from the Nile"

Interesting... "having conducted a channel from the Nile"? Not sure how that would be done, as water does not flow uphill."

Which makes the reticence against entertaining such ideas seem that much less understandable and makes them seem more like something Egyptologists should have been thinking of a long time ago.

Perhaps it would good to somehow keep the topics of water used for this purpose separate from the subject of potable water? I presume there's no need to use the drinking water for transportation of material or related purposes, so that part of your hypotheses might be reserved for explaining where drinking water came from to provide for thirsty laborers and so forth?

BTW, the subject of stepped core pyramids still seems badly mangled to me - I keep reading things about how we find fill where we might have expected stepped cores (although this may have to do with having only superficial access to the cores?) and what is supposedly academic conjecture that ramps were cannibalized for this filler material, not that that makes much sense if fill were needed sooner - but I keep getting a picture where building a stepped core slightly in advance of the flat plane they are working on might have eventually enabled some of a team of pullers that one seemingly runs out of room for nearing the summit, to perhaps relocate themselves on a step on the opposite side?

Perhaps you and cladking are both right when it comes to that?

I was also wondering if there might be any advantages to hemp or flax fibers for rope making, in either the making of the rope itself or its tensile strength. (I think I'm probably too brain dead at the minute to immerse myself in the history of rope making).

At any rate, it seems to me like you might have already developed a remarkably complete picture that is far less speculative than the status quo and may not require further technologies involving water?

Question - and apologies if it was already answered, I've only caught up with about half the posts in this thread - how far uphill would water have to go to get from the Nile to a particular pyramid? Is there elevation data of sufficient quality for that? I'm getting numbers for that with a casual search that are literally all over the place - no doubt you know this much better than I do.

A shame you mentioned running into things that still seem to be subject to military considerations, btw. It wasn't long enough ago I used to run into all sorts of troubles from GPS scrambling with just trying to obtain accurate coordinates for things. Tremendously frustrating, and very difficult to understand.

Anyway, thanks again for all the thought-provoking and beautifully illustrated materials. Best of luck with a book, I'd like to own a copy.

Cheers!

Hi Thinkitover,

Ok, so the situation with the Nile water upstream, has two components to overcome. One reaching a point, where you are higher than the level of Pyramids.  The other, the requirement of maintaining an aqueduct, tall and long enough, for that to be a possibility.  It's low on my list of realistic options. Herodotus statement that which he [Cheops] caused to made as sepulchral chambers for himself an island, having conducted a channel from the Nile" . Unless the earth has sunk upstream, this seems remote. I do not permit readings from the past, to dictate, that which is not realistic. For me , it is purely an engineering issue.

Hemp makes very good rope. Papayas, would additionally make very good rope, as it grew 10 feet tale along the Nile. Both are strong fibers. Stepped cores (mastabas) were for pre Giza. I do not feel, this is how they built G2 & G1. I believe they built one layer at a time, and finished the Casing stones, as they progressed.

Your are correct, employing water to lift stones, would not, need to be drinking water. I have always felt the so called "barracks" behind G2 was a water filtration system, for when it flooded. Not trinket shops. They would not want mud and silt filling inside those walls.  Filled with straw and replaced from time to time.  If they were harvesting water, they would want it free of silt and sand, as not doing so, would only hamper their building efforts. Water Management.

I wrote to have a high resolution Satellite perform some work, though under the current Corona situations, I have not heard back. To be expected.

I have concluded, there are plenty of water pools behind the Pyramids. If you Google Earth, just look for vegetation in gullies, that are blackish and green. Use your "Clock" symbol at the top and randomly change the settings. You will see many of them fill and drain. The mechanism which produce them is somewhat complicated. Water underground fills them through crevices. In some cases, the pool of water will reach a level, greater in pressure, than the pressure feeding it. This back pressure stops it from filing. Manually drain it, and it will replenish the water. Evaporation plays a big part on those pools, more so on some than others. A study reveals a random change. This is close to the Pyramids, approx. 10 miles.  I am a little late to this search, as water attracts occupation. Put up another parking lot. A new Golf Course,  Hotels...  The area behind the Pyramids has become a Resort location, as you progress up hill, until reaching the 6th of October City. Water is no longer an issue. 4,000 years ago, there would have been even more, "fossil" water in abundance, and closer to the surface. The AE were great ditch builders. In the picture below, I have drawn a yellow line. If you look closely, you will see others. Some have buildings close by, others are out in the barren desert.



Thank you for the interest.

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Water for the Giza Complex 1633 Steve Clayton 10-Mar-20 16:15
Re: Water for the Giza Complex 306 Open mind 10-Mar-20 18:07
Re: Water for the Giza Complex 185 Steve Clayton 10-Mar-20 21:19
Re: Water for the Giza Complex 168 Open mind 10-Mar-20 22:40
Re: Water for the Giza Complex 187 cladking 10-Mar-20 20:23
Re: Water for the Giza Complex 177 Steve Clayton 10-Mar-20 21:31
Re: Water for the Giza Complex 169 Corpuscles 10-Mar-20 21:17
Re: Water for the Giza Complex 167 Steve Clayton 10-Mar-20 21:44
Re: Water for the Giza Complex 153 Corpuscles 10-Mar-20 22:16
Re: Water for the Giza Complex 166 Steve Clayton 10-Mar-20 22:51
Re: Water for the Giza Complex 151 Corpuscles 10-Mar-20 23:32
Re: Water for the Giza Complex 145 Steve Clayton 10-Mar-20 23:58
Re: Water for the Giza Complex 151 Warwick 11-Mar-20 17:28
Re: Water for the Giza Complex 180 cladking 11-Mar-20 00:27
Re:Give us the "works" AGAIN! 154 Corpuscles 11-Mar-20 01:16
Re: Re:Give us the "works" AGAIN! 173 Steve Clayton 11-Mar-20 01:29
Re: Re:Give us the "works" AGAIN! 148 Warwick 11-Mar-20 17:38
Re: Water for the Giza Complex 160 Steve Clayton 11-Mar-20 01:24
Re: Water for the Giza Complex 186 cladking 11-Mar-20 14:20
Re: Water for the Giza Complex 142 seasmith 11-Mar-20 16:41
Re: Water for the Giza Complex 138 Steve Clayton 11-Mar-20 20:19
Re: Water for the Giza Complex 146 cladking 11-Mar-20 21:12
Re: Water for the Giza Complex 143 Steve Clayton 11-Mar-20 21:31
Re: Water for the Giza Complex 132 cladking 12-Mar-20 00:14
Re: Water for the Giza Complex 137 thinkitover 15-Mar-20 16:35
Re: Water for the Giza Complex 148 cladking 15-Mar-20 22:39
Petrie's prejudice? 149 Warwick 11-Mar-20 17:46
Re: Petrie's prejudice? 154 cladking 11-Mar-20 18:02
Sam 139 Warwick 11-Mar-20 18:23
Re: Sam 144 cladking 11-Mar-20 18:42
Re: Sam 148 Warwick 11-Mar-20 19:00
Re: Sam 149 Steve Clayton 11-Mar-20 21:36
Re: Sam 148 cladking 12-Mar-20 00:21
Re: Sam 146 cladking 12-Mar-20 15:41
Sam 143 Warwick 12-Mar-20 17:32
Re: Sam 155 cladking 12-Mar-20 20:24
Re: Sam 127 cladking 18-Mar-20 16:51
Re: Sam 129 Steve Clayton 18-Mar-20 17:08
Re: Sam 139 cladking 18-Mar-20 17:50
Re: Sam 131 Steve Clayton 18-Mar-20 18:11
Re: Petrie's prejudice? 139 Steve Clayton 11-Mar-20 21:21
Re: Water for the Giza Complex 149 SandyJesse 12-Mar-20 21:13
Re: Water for the Giza Complex 151 cladking 12-Mar-20 21:57
Faiyum Depression 149 Dr. Troglodyte 11-Mar-20 20:05
Re: Faiyum Depression 147 Steve Clayton 11-Mar-20 20:52
Re: Faiyum Depression 152 Dr. Troglodyte 12-Mar-20 01:08
Re: Faiyum Depression 148 Steve Clayton 12-Mar-20 03:03
Re: Faiyum Depression 152 Warwick 12-Mar-20 17:25
Re: Faiyum Depression 136 cladking 12-Mar-20 19:52
Re: Faiyum Depression 146 Warwick 12-Mar-20 19:58
Re: Faiyum Depression 130 Steve Clayton 12-Mar-20 23:20
Re: Faiyum Depression 136 Warwick 16-Mar-20 17:24
Re: Faiyum Depression 129 Steve Clayton 16-Mar-20 19:45
Re: Faiyum Depression 135 Warwick 16-Mar-20 19:51
Re: Faiyum Depression 138 Steve Clayton 16-Mar-20 20:03
Old Fart 133 Warwick 16-Mar-20 20:46
Re: Old Fart 133 Steve Clayton 16-Mar-20 21:16
Re: Old Fart 135 Warwick 18-Mar-20 16:59
Central Wadi 137 Dr. Troglodyte 13-Mar-20 17:29
Re: Central Wadi 137 Steve Clayton 13-Mar-20 17:44
Re: Water for the Giza Complex 142 Steve Clayton 11-Mar-20 21:58
Re: Water for the Giza Complex 150 Corpuscles 11-Mar-20 22:49
Re: Water for the Giza Complex 135 cladking 12-Mar-20 00:10
In summation 147 Warwick 12-Mar-20 17:39
Re: In summation 148 cladking 12-Mar-20 19:36
Re: In summation 144 Warwick 12-Mar-20 19:52
Re: In summation 143 cladking 12-Mar-20 19:59
Re: In summation 154 Warwick 12-Mar-20 20:06
Re: In summation 134 cladking 12-Mar-20 20:11
Does everyone see what I see??? 142 Warwick 12-Mar-20 20:17
Re: Water for the Giza Complex 153 Thanos5150 12-Mar-20 01:58
Re: Water for the Giza Complex 158 Steve Clayton 12-Mar-20 03:27
Re: Water for the Giza Complex 135 Thanos5150 12-Mar-20 15:59
Re: Water for the Giza Complex 146 Steve Clayton 12-Mar-20 17:35
red Granite and a question 140 Warwick 12-Mar-20 17:44
Re: red Granite and a question 145 Steve Clayton 12-Mar-20 20:40
Re: red Granite and a question 139 Warwick 16-Mar-20 16:43
Re: red Granite and a question 134 Steve Clayton 16-Mar-20 18:46
Re: red Granite and a question 132 Warwick 16-Mar-20 19:46
Re: red Granite and a question 137 Steve Clayton 16-Mar-20 20:00
Re: red Granite and a question 137 Warwick 16-Mar-20 20:57
Re: red Granite and a question 140 Steve Clayton 16-Mar-20 21:25
Re: Water for the Giza Complex 143 Warwick 12-Mar-20 17:04
Re: Water for the Giza Complex 151 Corpuscles 12-Mar-20 16:11
Re: Water for the Giza Complex 155 Thanos5150 12-Mar-20 16:32
aquatic prestidigitation 134 Warwick 12-Mar-20 17:14
Re: aquatic prestidigitation 136 cladking 12-Mar-20 19:27
Re: aquatic prestidigitation 140 Warwick 12-Mar-20 19:33
Re: aquatic prestidigitation 127 cladking 12-Mar-20 20:03
Re: aquatic prestidigitation 140 Warwick 12-Mar-20 20:11
Re: aquatic prestidigitation 144 cladking 12-Mar-20 20:39
Re: Water for the Giza Complex 132 cladking 12-Mar-20 19:24
Re: Water for the Giza Complex 133 Warwick 12-Mar-20 19:31
Re: Water for the Giza Complex 140 cladking 12-Mar-20 20:06
Re: Water for the Giza Complex 137 Warwick 12-Mar-20 20:21
Re: Water for the Giza Complex 144 cladking 12-Mar-20 20:52
Re: Water for the Giza Complex 140 Warwick 12-Mar-20 17:34
Re: Water for the Giza Complex 134 Steve Clayton 12-Mar-20 23:03
Re: Water for the Giza Complex 144 Glass Jigsaw 12-Mar-20 17:51
Re: Water for the Giza Complex 152 SandyJesse 12-Mar-20 22:36
Re: Water for the Giza Complex 162 Steve Clayton 13-Mar-20 00:16
Re: Water for the Giza Complex 148 cladking 13-Mar-20 13:25
Re: Water for the Giza Complex 136 Steve Clayton 13-Mar-20 17:33
Re: Water for the Giza Complex 159 Thanos5150 13-Mar-20 16:11
Re: Water for the Giza Complex 138 Steve Clayton 13-Mar-20 17:21
Re: Water for the Giza Complex 141 Thanos5150 13-Mar-20 23:45
Re: Water for the Giza Complex 165 Steve Clayton 14-Mar-20 00:28
Re: Water for the Giza Complex 157 Thanos5150 14-Mar-20 04:37
Re: Water for the Giza Complex 156 Steve Clayton 14-Mar-20 05:53
Re: Water for the Giza Complex 151 Thanos5150 15-Mar-20 15:14
Re: Water for the Giza Complex 135 Steve Clayton 15-Mar-20 23:53
Re: Water for the Giza Complex 161 Thanos5150 16-Mar-20 17:04
Re: Water for the Giza Complex 139 Steve Clayton 16-Mar-20 18:21
Re: Water for the Giza Complex 160 cladking 16-Mar-20 22:35
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Re: Water for the Giza Complex 181 cladking 17-Mar-20 03:08
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Re: Water for the Giza Complex 148 cladking 17-Mar-20 21:14
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Re: Water for the Giza Complex 141 Steve Clayton 18-Mar-20 17:37
Re: Water for the Giza Complex 137 Steve Clayton 18-Mar-20 21:33
Re: Water for the Giza Complex 149 Thanos5150 18-Mar-20 22:39
Re: Water for the Giza Complex 156 Steve Clayton 19-Mar-20 00:48
Re: Water for the Giza Complex 153 Thanos5150 19-Mar-20 03:28
Re: Water for the Giza Complex 139 Steve Clayton 19-Mar-20 14:42
Food for thought 133 Warwick 19-Mar-20 16:52
Re: Food for thought 133 cladking 19-Mar-20 17:33
Re: Food for thought 141 Steve Clayton 19-Mar-20 17:54
Re: Food for thought 126 cladking 20-Mar-20 14:20
Re: Food for thought 128 cladking 20-Mar-20 14:38
Re: Water for thought 130 Steve Clayton 20-Mar-20 18:28
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Re: Water for thought 131 cladking 20-Mar-20 22:14
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Re: Water for the Giza Complex 133 thinkitover 20-Mar-20 20:04
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Re: Water for the Giza Complex 124 cladking 20-Mar-20 22:02
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Re: Water for the Giza Complex 144 Steve Clayton 23-Mar-20 23:09
Re: Water for Moving Stones up the Causeway 135 Steve Clayton 24-Mar-20 21:19
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Re: Stone Pullers vs Canal Men 116 Steve Clayton 04-Apr-20 01:55
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Re: Stone Pullers vs Canal Men 113 Steve Clayton 04-Apr-20 18:17
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Re: Stone Pullers vs Canal Men 111 Steve Clayton 05-Apr-20 02:51
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Re: Stone Pullers vs Canal Men 118 Steve Clayton 05-Apr-20 14:20
Re: Stone Pullers vs Canal Men 119 Thanos5150 06-Apr-20 01:05
Re: Stone Pullers vs Canal Men 119 cladking 04-Apr-20 14:56
Re: Stone Pullers vs Canal Men 113 Steve Clayton 04-Apr-20 22:53
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Re: Stone Pullers vs Canal Men 120 Steve Clayton 05-Apr-20 15:01
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Re: Stone Pullers vs Canal Men 132 SandyJesse 02-Apr-20 00:52
Re: Stone Pullers vs Canal Men 154 SandyJesse 02-Apr-20 01:10
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STOP BEING DISHONEST!!!!! 114 Warwick 03-Apr-20 22:18
Re: STOP BEING DISHONEST!!!!! 107 cladking 04-Apr-20 15:59
Re: Stone Pullers vs Canal Men 126 Steve Clayton 02-Apr-20 22:17
Re: Stone Pullers vs Canal Men 129 Warwick 03-Apr-20 23:20
Re: Stone Pullers vs Canal Men 112 Steve Clayton 04-Apr-20 18:08
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Re: Stone Pullers vs Canal Men 117 Steve Clayton 03-Apr-20 01:03
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Re: Stone Pullers vs Canal Men 116 Steve Clayton 03-Apr-20 19:42
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Re: Stone Pullers vs Canal Men 117 Steve Clayton 03-Apr-20 21:11
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Re: Stone Pullers vs Canal Men 115 Steve Clayton 04-Apr-20 18:32
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Re: Stone Pullers vs Canal Men 106 Steve Clayton 04-Apr-20 22:30
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Re: Stone Pullers vs Canal Men 119 SandyJesse 03-Apr-20 21:06
Re: Stone Pullers vs Canal Men 131 Steve Clayton 04-Apr-20 01:57
Re: Water for the Giza Complex 136 Thanos5150 30-Mar-20 23:20
Re: Water for the Giza Complex 115 Steve Clayton 31-Mar-20 00:40
Re: Water for the Giza Complex 123 Thanos5150 31-Mar-20 16:38
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Re: Water for the Giza Complex 136 Thanos5150 23-Mar-20 15:30
Re: Water for the Giza Complex 117 Steve Clayton 01-Apr-20 19:13
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Re: Water for the Giza Complex 144 Steve Clayton 15-Mar-20 16:51
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Re: Water for the Giza Complex 123 Steve Clayton 16-Mar-20 00:11
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Re: Water for the Giza Complex 132 drew 16-Mar-20 00:49
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Re: Water for the Giza Complex 145 drew 16-Mar-20 00:51
Hold it right there 127 Warwick 17-Mar-20 17:40
Re: Water for the Giza Complex 140 drew 17-Mar-20 22:53
Re: Water for the Giza Complex 122 cladking 18-Mar-20 01:20
he is gaslighting you 118 Warwick 18-Mar-20 17:05
Re: he is gaslighting you 119 cladking 18-Mar-20 17:44
a final shot thru the rigging 117 Warwick 18-Mar-20 18:31
Re: Water for the Giza Complex 148 drew 16-Mar-20 00:28
Re: Water for the Giza Complex 128 Steve Clayton 16-Mar-20 04:03
Re: Water for the Giza Complex 151 Corpuscles 16-Mar-20 05:34
Re: Water for the Giza Complex 133 thinkitover 16-Mar-20 13:10
Re: Water for the Giza Complex 123 Steve Clayton 16-Mar-20 15:34
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the name of the game is obfuscation 129 Warwick 19-Mar-20 16:58
Stop the Bus. Sam NEEDS to get off 132 Warwick 18-Mar-20 17:29
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Canal Searching 121 Steve Clayton 18-Mar-20 21:18
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Steve 135 Warwick 18-Mar-20 18:20
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English as a First Language 121 Warwick 30-Mar-20 19:15
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Re: Locks and non existent water fantasy 125 Corpuscles 06-Apr-20 02:53
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Re: Locks and non existent water fantasy 114 Thanos5150 06-Apr-20 03:37
Re: Locks and non existent water fantasy 113 Steve Clayton 06-Apr-20 14:59
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Re: Locks and non existent water fantasy 118 cladking 06-Apr-20 18:59
Re: Locks and non existent water fantasy 115 Steve Clayton 06-Apr-20 21:02
Re: Locks and non existent water fantasy 130 SandyJesse 06-Apr-20 21:45
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Re: Locks and non existent water fantasy 131 Corpuscles 06-Apr-20 23:17
Re: Locks and non existent water fantasy 118 Thanos5150 07-Apr-20 04:29
Re: Locks and non existent water fantasy 132 Corpuscles 07-Apr-20 07:24
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