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Steve Clayton Wrote:
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> Well yes you are correct. Though you can say that
> about carbonated water, and the like. How are you
> going to prove all that... The water behind the
> Pyramids only makes it a possibility. Unless they
> do ground radar and purposely go looking for a
> canal, it will always be nothing more than a
> possibility. And, we both know that will not
> happen any time soon.
>
> The Comment about the Nile was not originally
> mine. It was from a report. One in which, I can
> not site, though I did in the past.
>
> Like nearly everyone in the Country, I am on lock
> down. With all this time on my hands, I decided to
> do a book. It's not that hard. Search for
> BookWright (Blurb). Amazon is apart of it. Not
> sure how long this will last. So, I have turned my
> attention to ROPE, once again. A Study in Rope,
> with all the calcs. And again, a preponderance in
> truth, hopefully. :)
I never suggested i must be right and you must be wrong. The only thing that "must be" wrong is that stones were dragged into huge piles but the builders neglected to leave any evidence for it and instead left copious evidence stones were pulled straight up the sides after being pulled to the bases of the pyramid from quarries and ports on the river. That there was water is certain. That they used it for moving stone is likely. Where this water came from is the real mystery today. Your solution for its origin is very attractive but I doubt that it could do much more than supplement another source due to the lack of timeliness of rain. Yes, I understand that any pooled water within a reasonable distance and of requisite elevation could have been channeled to the site and could BE the primary source. If ruins or the path of such waterworks could be found then we'd finally have THE REAL ANSWER to how the pyramids were built. It would no longer be a mystery with all and sundry claiming how they mustta been built. We would then know that they mustta used water by some means as a counterweight to lift stones straight up the sides of five step pyramid. Next we'd need to determine how the weight of water was used and exactly where these counterweights operated on the cliff faces and elsewhere.
The problem here is that it doesn't appear we'll ever get any help at all from the systematic application modern science and knowledge. The needed data will leak out from disparate and disjointed application of modern instrumentation as much as a century after it is invented. Every year the ruins of your waterworks will be buried under another 1/2" of desert and anything that could be actually tested on the pyramids will be a year older and farther removed from its original or current state. This situation will persist so long as there are no mysteries except exactly what the builders were thinking. So long as we accept what we see at face value we'll each see something completely different. Only by looking behind what is visible are we to ever come to understand it. The time comes that we must look into the mouth of the Mouth of Caves. We must look behind the face of the pyramid and ACCEPT what we see. We must must probe this whole area with the tools of modern science. It must be dome methodically and the most important aspect of the systematic and methodical exploration of what's right in front of us IS the study of each anomaly.
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> Well yes you are correct. Though you can say that
> about carbonated water, and the like. How are you
> going to prove all that... The water behind the
> Pyramids only makes it a possibility. Unless they
> do ground radar and purposely go looking for a
> canal, it will always be nothing more than a
> possibility. And, we both know that will not
> happen any time soon.
>
> The Comment about the Nile was not originally
> mine. It was from a report. One in which, I can
> not site, though I did in the past.
>
> Like nearly everyone in the Country, I am on lock
> down. With all this time on my hands, I decided to
> do a book. It's not that hard. Search for
> BookWright (Blurb). Amazon is apart of it. Not
> sure how long this will last. So, I have turned my
> attention to ROPE, once again. A Study in Rope,
> with all the calcs. And again, a preponderance in
> truth, hopefully. :)
I never suggested i must be right and you must be wrong. The only thing that "must be" wrong is that stones were dragged into huge piles but the builders neglected to leave any evidence for it and instead left copious evidence stones were pulled straight up the sides after being pulled to the bases of the pyramid from quarries and ports on the river. That there was water is certain. That they used it for moving stone is likely. Where this water came from is the real mystery today. Your solution for its origin is very attractive but I doubt that it could do much more than supplement another source due to the lack of timeliness of rain. Yes, I understand that any pooled water within a reasonable distance and of requisite elevation could have been channeled to the site and could BE the primary source. If ruins or the path of such waterworks could be found then we'd finally have THE REAL ANSWER to how the pyramids were built. It would no longer be a mystery with all and sundry claiming how they mustta been built. We would then know that they mustta used water by some means as a counterweight to lift stones straight up the sides of five step pyramid. Next we'd need to determine how the weight of water was used and exactly where these counterweights operated on the cliff faces and elsewhere.
The problem here is that it doesn't appear we'll ever get any help at all from the systematic application modern science and knowledge. The needed data will leak out from disparate and disjointed application of modern instrumentation as much as a century after it is invented. Every year the ruins of your waterworks will be buried under another 1/2" of desert and anything that could be actually tested on the pyramids will be a year older and farther removed from its original or current state. This situation will persist so long as there are no mysteries except exactly what the builders were thinking. So long as we accept what we see at face value we'll each see something completely different. Only by looking behind what is visible are we to ever come to understand it. The time comes that we must look into the mouth of the Mouth of Caves. We must look behind the face of the pyramid and ACCEPT what we see. We must must probe this whole area with the tools of modern science. It must be dome methodically and the most important aspect of the systematic and methodical exploration of what's right in front of us IS the study of each anomaly.
Man fears the pyramid, time fears man.
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