> Hi Cladking,
> The Greek historian Herodotus wrote about the
> “pathways” between the Labyrinth of Hawara and
> the Giza Plateau being linked, much like an
> ancient underground subway system.
> Quote from Herodotus: (Histories 2.124) "For the
> underground chambers on the heights upon which the
> pyramids stand, which he [Cheops] caused to made
> as sepulchral chambers for himself an island,
> having conducted a channel from the Nile"
> Interesting... "having conducted a channel from
> the Nile"? Not sure how that would be done, as
> water does not flow uphill.
There used to be another one about these "subways" but I couldn't find it.
There is every reason to believe that there was water on the plateau but figuring how it got there is not so straightforward. I tend to believe it (mostly) came from the caves but there are few forces that could push it to the requisite altitude. Even if water were merely at the pavement level it might have done ALL the work necessary to build the pyramids so exotic and far fetched means are hardly necessary. But the problem is that almost any means to get it to the pavement level is "far fetched" in that there should be evidence of this means even if Egyptologists already KNOW that ramps were used. So part of solving this means you must explain how we have missed it. There's another feature that may be relevant especially to those who think the water came from the Fayuum. Just to the north there is an enormous sink hole called the "Anus of the World". Such sinkholes certainly imply karst topography and deep caves and a north flowing aquifer means water flow right toward Giza from the Fayuum.
There are caves no doubt all over this region and quite possibly tunnels but this is just another thing Egyptology refuses to study or address so we don't know exactly what's there. Herodotus' description of canals to the Nile from Giza could simply be a confusion of ancient writing that says the water at Giza originated at Elephantine island. This was the chief source of red ocher so the red water at Giza might have led to this misapprehension. Curiously I found another "god' in the PT. I had mistakenly believed that 3b3w was the "height of heaven" and kebehwet (3b3w.t) was the feminine principle of water pressure at this height (80') but I believe now that actually 3b3w was the masculine principle of the water in heaven. You can think of kebehwet as the depth of the water and 3b3w as the height.
I have seen several reports about the water in the Osiris Shaft. Incredibly it was once pumped up for drinking water during the 1930's and was quite popular among tourists. It was reported to "fizz" when objects were dropped into it in the '90's. At this time it was covered with a fine dust (anaerobic decomposition of insects?). It was vandalized in the early '30's and the outlet (toward the Sphinx) was dammed up (it has never been cleared). Hawass crawled out of here in '08 covered in mud that was being excavated from a cave and announced there were no caves at all in Giza. In '98 he emerged from here and said, "there are important clues about how the pyramids were built (here)". Of course there's also the cave discovered from the Tomb of the Birds which Hawass was led into on international television still mumbling something about there being no caves at Giza. This cave has never been excavated of the tons and tons of bat guano.
It's very apparent that the ancients were familiar with all sorts of caves. Remember even Egyptologists believe that they believed there were caves in the afterlife. If there were caves in the Elysium Fields then certainly they knew of them on earth. The entire Nile Valley is just fill a mile and a half deep so caves are impossible in the valley. This means the caves mustta been at the place they called "Mouth of Caves". ....Go figure. Rosteau (Mouth of Caves) was the entire