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Steve Clayton Wrote:
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> I know nothing about their language.
You and everyone else.
Egyptologists believe it is a language of superstition. They have translated and interpreted it in terms of later beliefs. I believe it hasn't and will never be translated.
> OK, so then where the 100,000 tons come from & a
> million Merer's couldn't get them across the the
> Nile, how did they do it?
First off it appears that Merer was not a captain of a stone transport. He captained a "tug boat". Principally he loaded boats at the Turah Mine Port but he often had duties at Giza and hauled a stone or two when he reported there. There were not enough tugs to keep the construction site in casing stone even if they had 50 years to haul them. They had 12 or 14 that carried a few stones per trip that made the round robin to Giza for 50 years. There were only a few tugs.
They brought these stones nearly continuously during the entire course of the project.
> I'm not concerned about Orthodox beliefs. I am
> focused on how they might have built the Pyramids,
> and therefore look for ways to simplify their
> work, as I do not
> believe in the stone puller using ramps uphill
> theory.
Same here. Egyptology has made no progress in 150 years and they aren't even trying. They have no interest at all in engineering or construction management and wouldn't know a critical path if it bit them on the backside. They are focused on the builders to the exclusion of knowing why, how, or exactly what they built. They believe that they can understand the pyramid builders without knowing anything at all about the pyramid. They're so fixated on understanding ancient beliefs they didn't notice they had no words for "belief" or "thought".
It is a certainty that they simplified construction for two centuries. Each great pyramid was progressively larger. Egyptologists assume this means they worked harder and harder but never realized that it required 45 times more work to lift the stones as time went on. They never did the calculations because they consider a pyramid a pyramid and they were more interested in why they built big tombs instead of how or why the first pyramids were smaller.
> And, that is all it is, just a theory.
> Anyone who runs the numbers, and few do, they
> would realize how impractical
> that would be.
Most people who believe in "ramps" never tried working with a crew. They don't notice that most of the men are just leaning on the ropes or everyone else and some are being pulled along. They just don't know that dragging stones is hard work even if it's not uphill and even if you don't have to build the damn hill yourself. They just don't realize there is no evidence for ramps and it's just an interpretation of other evidence. They believe that Egyptology knows what it's talking about when they refer to "cultural context". They believe there is a mountain of evidence but this mountain is no taller than the tiny little piles of rubble also called "pyramids" by Egyptologists from centuries later. They don't know. We all tend to assume that experts are right. We assume that they have all the evidence not that century old technology isn't even available to the most famous and important scholars. They are all working with their arms tied behind their backs and blinders on.
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> I know nothing about their language.
You and everyone else.
Egyptologists believe it is a language of superstition. They have translated and interpreted it in terms of later beliefs. I believe it hasn't and will never be translated.
> OK, so then where the 100,000 tons come from & a
> million Merer's couldn't get them across the the
> Nile, how did they do it?
First off it appears that Merer was not a captain of a stone transport. He captained a "tug boat". Principally he loaded boats at the Turah Mine Port but he often had duties at Giza and hauled a stone or two when he reported there. There were not enough tugs to keep the construction site in casing stone even if they had 50 years to haul them. They had 12 or 14 that carried a few stones per trip that made the round robin to Giza for 50 years. There were only a few tugs.
They brought these stones nearly continuously during the entire course of the project.
> I'm not concerned about Orthodox beliefs. I am
> focused on how they might have built the Pyramids,
> and therefore look for ways to simplify their
> work, as I do not
> believe in the stone puller using ramps uphill
> theory.
Same here. Egyptology has made no progress in 150 years and they aren't even trying. They have no interest at all in engineering or construction management and wouldn't know a critical path if it bit them on the backside. They are focused on the builders to the exclusion of knowing why, how, or exactly what they built. They believe that they can understand the pyramid builders without knowing anything at all about the pyramid. They're so fixated on understanding ancient beliefs they didn't notice they had no words for "belief" or "thought".
It is a certainty that they simplified construction for two centuries. Each great pyramid was progressively larger. Egyptologists assume this means they worked harder and harder but never realized that it required 45 times more work to lift the stones as time went on. They never did the calculations because they consider a pyramid a pyramid and they were more interested in why they built big tombs instead of how or why the first pyramids were smaller.
> And, that is all it is, just a theory.
> Anyone who runs the numbers, and few do, they
> would realize how impractical
> that would be.
Most people who believe in "ramps" never tried working with a crew. They don't notice that most of the men are just leaning on the ropes or everyone else and some are being pulled along. They just don't know that dragging stones is hard work even if it's not uphill and even if you don't have to build the damn hill yourself. They just don't realize there is no evidence for ramps and it's just an interpretation of other evidence. They believe that Egyptology knows what it's talking about when they refer to "cultural context". They believe there is a mountain of evidence but this mountain is no taller than the tiny little piles of rubble also called "pyramids" by Egyptologists from centuries later. They don't know. We all tend to assume that experts are right. We assume that they have all the evidence not that century old technology isn't even available to the most famous and important scholars. They are all working with their arms tied behind their backs and blinders on.
Man fears the pyramid, time fears man.
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