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Warwick Wrote:
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> Steve Clayton Wrote:
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> > Warwick Wrote:
> >
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> > -----
> > > 24 x 365 x 20 =175200
> > >
> > > Allowing that my Magazine proposal was
> > employed,
> > > and upgrading my estimate to 1,752,000...
> > >
> > > We get 10 an hour
> > >
> > > Obviously the higher we go the less haul
> teams
> > > would be needed
> > >
> > > In the first 5 to 10 years we could have been
> > > looking at far more an hour which
> exponentially
> > > accommodates slower rates as they got closer
> to
> > > the top
> > >
> > >
> > > The 10 per hour average has been voiced by
> > > countless researchers
> > >
> > >
> > > Feel free to question my estimates, they are
> > just
> > > that
> > >
> > >
> > > Warwick
> > >
> > >
> > > PS. Apply the same to 2 to 3 million
> > > Maybe go for more time
> > >
> > > The numbers are mind numbing but not the
> > > impossibility that so many Hobbyists like to
> > > promote
> > >
> > > Warwick
> >
> > Hi Warwick,
> >
> > OK, well I commend you for taking the time and
> > effort. I need to point out a few things,
> though
> > don't want to
> > upset you. I'm trying to be constructive.
> >
> > Time study is a structured process of directly
> > observing and measuring human work. This is the
> > area that requires much work. Together,
> hopefully
> > we can agree to some decent numbers. Working
> > backwards, we need to deliver a stone every 3
> > minutes. In the beginning, it would be easier
> to
> > meet that rate, as you don't need to travel as
> > far, as in later. That would comprise a large
> > amount of stones. Building a big ramp could
> take
> > up materials and manpower, if no other better
> > system was available and/or they lacked the
> > knowledge of. Where you will run into
> difficulty,
> > is proposing pulling "single" stones up and on
> > top, by any means. It would be better, if you
> had
> > more than one way up.
> >
> > Some questions? What size of a ramp do you
> > envision, and is it a spiral ramp.
> Additionally,
> > how wide do your propose this ramp to be.
>
>
> 1. I know exactly what a time study is.  what I
> offered was a brief extempore demonstration of my
> familiarity with all the challenges of the
> project
>
> 2.instead of thinking RAMP, think ramping. One
> ramp to do the whole thing is the most ridiculous
> of the ramp suggestions whereas Houdins is the
> most unnecessarily complicated.
>
> 3. The major ramp was, to my thinking that
> line/angle/striking that is the base of the Grand
> gallery.  from there internal inclines ( marl
> filled steps).
>
> 4. while I have years of study research and filers
> papers articles on the Pyramid age it has never
> been my intent to be he who solves the problem to
> everyone's satisfaction.
>
> 5.My intent is to attempt to isolate and
> understand the motivation behind building it and
> inspiring the work force
>
> food for thought:
>
> a.   the supplicants go to Lourdes the climb the
> steps on their knees, or crawl.
>
> b. every now and then thru time groups of humanity
> manage to be greater than the sum of their parts
>
>
> Warwick

Hi Warwick,

If your time study is based on the proverbial 1 stone every 3 minutes, which is the rate needed for a 20 year build cycle, then that condition limits many proposals.

What would help, is to determine how many men would be required, for a given angle, to pull a 2.5 ton stone from bottom to top. By establishing several angles, you can then acquire a percentage. That percentage could then be attributed to any ramp angle proposed. I have relied on Franz Löhner calculations, thou (unless I missed it) only provided the men needed for a level pull, and a pyramid face pull, using the men's weight. We don't really know, how many men would be required at any angle/degree of a ramp, be it the Pyramid face or Spiral ramps. Have you ever seen anyone pull a 2.5 ton stone up a ramp for say 100 feet, and know how long that would take?

[www.cheops-pyramide.ch]

Where as, the Funicular counter balance does contain accurate relationships of Incline Plains vs COF friction, and weight.  Two strange qualities, that I would have never guessed , is the fact that increasing the weight does not effect the COF. The fruition rate remains the same? The other quality being, as the weight moves down the incline, it increases in speed. It is not constant.

I believe the Funicular was used and existed for several reasons.

1st. The 10 year Causeway build, is not necessary to pull stones up from the Harbor. A hard packed dirt path, with wood slates, lubricated with water or grease, would accomplish the same task. If that was the only reason for the Causeway, they would have lost precious time, and cost more in food. It would be a pointless endeavor, in time and effort.
 
2nd. It replaces the majority of men need for the stone pull. 

3rd. The TV is full of individuals pointing to the miraculous AE, who drill holes in stones, and made saw cuts, polished stone to a high degree of accuracy, ect,ect...  Well, if they were that smart, then Funicular technology would be a snap. No problem. :)

4th. The time frame. As you and I are attempting to use Men, I suspect there is no senario to support them. If there was, it would have been revealed many years ago. Men have been trying to figure out, how those Pyramid were built, for many Centuries.

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A Study in Ramps 1440 Steve Clayton 01-Mar-20 17:30
Re: A Study in Ramps 217 Manu 01-Mar-20 18:25
Re: A Study in Ramps 205 Steve Clayton 01-Mar-20 20:08
Re: A Study in Ramps 196 Manu 02-Mar-20 02:31
Re: A Study in Ramps 177 Steve Clayton 02-Mar-20 04:54
Re: A Study in Ramps 194 Warwick 01-Mar-20 19:13
Re: A Study in Ramps 177 Steve Clayton 01-Mar-20 20:11
Addendum 176 Steve Clayton 01-Mar-20 22:51
Re: Addendum 184 Manu 02-Mar-20 02:22
Re: Addendum 169 Steve Clayton 02-Mar-20 04:56
Re: Addendum 170 Manu 02-Mar-20 11:15
an observation 179 Warwick 02-Mar-20 18:26
Re: an observation 179 cladking 02-Mar-20 18:38
Re: an observation 161 Warwick 02-Mar-20 18:45
Re: an observation 164 cladking 02-Mar-20 18:52
Point of Order 162 Warwick 02-Mar-20 18:56
Re: Point of Order 150 cladking 02-Mar-20 20:17
Re: Point of Order 163 Warwick 02-Mar-20 23:37
You Meant "Superstitious Idiots" As A Complement? 158 thinkitover 03-Mar-20 05:20
Re: You Meant "Superstitious Idiots" As A Complement? 156 Warwick 03-Mar-20 05:40
Re: You Meant "Superstitious Idiots" As A Complement? 150 cladking 03-Mar-20 14:08
Re: You Meant "Superstitious Idiots" As A Complement? 147 Warwick 03-Mar-20 18:45
Re: You Meant "Superstitious Idiots" As A Complement? 153 cladking 03-Mar-20 20:54
Re: You Meant "Superstitious Idiots" As A Complement? 120 cladking 11-May-20 14:33
Re: an observation 150 Steve Clayton 03-Mar-20 17:05
Re: an observation 146 Warwick 03-Mar-20 18:56
Re: an observation 137 cladking 03-Mar-20 20:57
Re: an observation 138 Warwick 04-Mar-20 17:49
Re: an observation 142 cladking 04-Mar-20 17:58
One Last Try 150 Warwick 04-Mar-20 18:04
20 % of 1.5 Million 144 Warwick 04-Mar-20 18:06
I forgot 145 Warwick 04-Mar-20 18:07
Re: One Last Try 145 cladking 04-Mar-20 18:18
Re: One Last Try 140 Warwick 04-Mar-20 18:33
Re: One Last Try 143 Steve Clayton 04-Mar-20 19:33
Re: One Last Try 143 Warwick 04-Mar-20 19:48
Re: One Last Try 142 cladking 04-Mar-20 20:04
Re: One Last Try 142 Warwick 04-Mar-20 20:21
Re: One Last Try 141 cladking 04-Mar-20 20:57
Re: One Last Try 144 Warwick 04-Mar-20 21:38
Re: It's Spring 141 Steve Clayton 05-Mar-20 13:13
Re: One Last Try 143 Steve Clayton 04-Mar-20 22:45
Re: One Last Try 144 Thanos5150 05-Mar-20 16:36
Re: One Last Try 141 cladking 05-Mar-20 16:56
Re: One Last Try 134 cladking 04-Mar-20 19:57
Re: One Last Try 133 Steve Clayton 05-Mar-20 13:54
Re: One Last Try 139 cladking 05-Mar-20 15:00
Re: an observation 150 Steve Clayton 03-Mar-20 00:36
Re: Addendum 150 SandyJesse 05-Mar-20 23:11
Re: Addendum 129 Steve Clayton 06-Mar-20 16:01
Re: Addendum 135 SandyJesse 07-Mar-20 23:16
Re: A Study in Ramps 171 cladking 01-Mar-20 22:58
Re: A Study in Ramps 162 Steve Clayton 02-Mar-20 03:31
Re: A Study in Ramps 140 cladking 02-Mar-20 18:47
Point of Order 145 Warwick 02-Mar-20 19:00
Re: Point of Order 138 cladking 02-Mar-20 20:05
Re: Point of Order 139 Warwick 02-Mar-20 23:43
Re: Point of Order 138 cladking 03-Mar-20 02:20
Re: Point of Order 139 Warwick 03-Mar-20 04:32
Re: Point of Order 137 cladking 03-Mar-20 14:40
Re: Point of Order 132 Open mind 03-Mar-20 15:14
Re: Point of Order 138 Warwick 03-Mar-20 18:37
Re: Point of Order 136 Open mind 03-Mar-20 19:14
Re: Point of Order - O/T, sort of 138 Warwick 03-Mar-20 19:52
Re: Point of Order 158 Steve Clayton 03-Mar-20 00:09
Re: Point of Order 145 thinkitover 03-Mar-20 05:27
Re: Point of Order 138 cladking 03-Mar-20 14:24
Re: Point of Order 141 Steve Clayton 03-Mar-20 19:44
Re: Point of Order 136 cladking 03-Mar-20 20:59
Re: Point of Order 138 Steve Clayton 03-Mar-20 23:34
Re: Point of Order 150 cladking 04-Mar-20 01:10
Re: Point of Order 174 Thanos5150 04-Mar-20 02:03
Re: Point of Order 143 engbren 04-Mar-20 12:46
Saw Palace Context Sign is pr wr. 160 Manu 04-Mar-20 13:12
Re: Point of Order 149 cladking 04-Mar-20 14:45
Re: Point of Order 155 Manu 04-Mar-20 14:49
Re: Point of Order 145 cladking 04-Mar-20 17:18
Re: Point of Order 139 Manu 04-Mar-20 17:36
Re: Point of Order 140 cladking 04-Mar-20 18:10
Re: Point of Order 142 cladking 07-Mar-20 21:05
Re: Point of Order 135 Steve Clayton 06-Mar-20 19:57
Re: Point of Order 131 cladking 04-Mar-20 17:15
Re: Point of Order 131 Steve Clayton 04-Mar-20 18:29
Re: Point of Order 128 cladking 04-Mar-20 18:44
Re: Point of Order 162 cladking 04-Mar-20 15:44
Re: Point of Order 152 Thanos5150 04-Mar-20 16:23
Re: Point of Order 147 cladking 04-Mar-20 16:43
Re: Point of Order 136 Thanos5150 04-Mar-20 17:38
Re: Point of Order 135 Warwick 04-Mar-20 17:46
Re: Point of Order 141 cladking 04-Mar-20 20:47
Burn all the books!!! 127 Warwick 05-Mar-20 17:46
Re: Rewrite all the books!!! 149 cladking 05-Mar-20 18:02
Re: Rewrite all the books!!! 127 Warwick 05-Mar-20 18:14
...Then We might as well just Chuck the Books. 134 cladking 05-Mar-20 18:53
Re: ...Then We might as well just Chuck the Books. 127 Warwick 05-Mar-20 20:11
Re: ...Then We might as well just Chuck the Books. 139 cladking 05-Mar-20 21:02
Re: ...Then We might as well just Chuck the Books. 139 Warwick 05-Mar-20 21:42
Re: Point of Order 139 Steve Clayton 04-Mar-20 17:58
Re: Point of Order 133 cladking 04-Mar-20 18:48
Re: Point of Order 130 Steve Clayton 06-Mar-20 16:34
Re: Point of Order 133 cladking 06-Mar-20 19:31
Re: Point of Order 132 Steve Clayton 07-Mar-20 00:47
Re: Point of Order 127 cladking 07-Mar-20 01:24
Re: Point of Order 136 Steve Clayton 07-Mar-20 17:40
Re: Point of Order 123 cladking 07-Mar-20 20:52
Re: Point of Order 137 Manu 06-Mar-20 20:31
Re: Point of Order 130 cladking 06-Mar-20 20:47
ST3W 137 Manu 06-Mar-20 21:16
Re: Point of Order 130 cladking 06-Mar-20 21:18
Ra-st3w 149 Manu 06-Mar-20 21:33
Re: Ra-st3w 141 cladking 06-Mar-20 23:08
Re: Ra-st3w 145 cladking 06-Mar-20 23:23
Re: Ra-st3w 131 cladking 09-Mar-20 03:18
Re: Point of Order 131 Steve Clayton 07-Mar-20 01:21
Re: Point of Order 137 Manu 08-Mar-20 17:24
Re: Point of Order 123 Steve Clayton 08-Mar-20 19:07
Re: Point of Order 121 Warwick 08-Mar-20 19:21
Re: Point of Order 128 cladking 08-Mar-20 21:13
Re: Point of Order 117 Steve Clayton 08-Mar-20 22:01
Re: Point of Order 135 cladking 08-Mar-20 23:12
Re: Point of Order 119 Steve Clayton 09-Mar-20 15:38
Re: Point of Order 115 cladking 09-Mar-20 17:49
Re: Point of Order 113 Steve Clayton 09-Mar-20 20:25
Re: Point of Order 132 Warwick 09-Mar-20 20:48
Re: Point of Order 126 Steve Clayton 09-Mar-20 23:12
Re: Point of Order 121 Warwick 10-Mar-20 17:01
Re: Point of Order 122 Steve Clayton 10-Mar-20 20:41
Obvious to all?? 119 Warwick 11-Mar-20 17:10
after all 118 Warwick 11-Mar-20 17:14
Re: Obvious to all?? 109 cladking 11-Mar-20 18:12
Re: Obvious to all?? 136 Warwick 11-Mar-20 18:19
Khafre Causeway-Logistics before Religion? 126 Manu 08-Mar-20 19:28
think conduit 115 Warwick 08-Mar-20 19:57
further reading 116 Warwick 08-Mar-20 20:00
Re: Khafre Causeway-Logistics before Religion? 118 Steve Clayton 08-Mar-20 20:12
Re: Point of Order 124 cladking 08-Mar-20 14:32
Re: Point of Order 135 Manu 08-Mar-20 15:01
Re: Point of Order 122 cladking 08-Mar-20 15:44
Re: Point of Order 129 Manu 08-Mar-20 16:03
Re: Point of Order 118 cladking 08-Mar-20 23:21
Re: Point of Order 135 Thanos5150 08-Mar-20 16:05
Re: Point of Order 119 Warwick 08-Mar-20 19:28
Re: Point of Order 122 cladking 08-Mar-20 21:25
Re: Point of Order 123 Steve Clayton 08-Mar-20 20:49
Re: Point of Order 115 Warwick 08-Mar-20 20:59
Re: Point of Order 126 Steve Clayton 08-Mar-20 22:08
Re: Point of Order 120 cladking 08-Mar-20 23:16
Re: Point of Order 123 Warwick 09-Mar-20 17:39
Re: Point of Order 122 cladking 08-Mar-20 21:05
Re: Point of Order 135 Steve Clayton 03-Mar-20 16:44
Re: Point of Order 120 cladking 03-Mar-20 21:03
Re: Point of Order 116 Steve Clayton 04-Mar-20 17:40
Re: Point of Order 119 cladking 04-Mar-20 19:09
Re: Point of Order 118 Steve Clayton 05-Mar-20 17:03
Re: Point of Order 117 cladking 05-Mar-20 17:52
A stupid question 132 Warwick 05-Mar-20 17:55
Re: A stupid question 119 cladking 05-Mar-20 18:47
Re: A stupid question 131 Steve Clayton 06-Mar-20 17:49
Re: A stupid question 124 Warwick 07-Mar-20 19:14
Re: A stupid question 123 Steve Clayton 07-Mar-20 23:09
Re: A stupid question 113 Warwick 08-Mar-20 18:41
Re: Point of Order 131 Open mind 03-Mar-20 15:26
Re: Point of Order 125 cladking 03-Mar-20 21:07
Re: A Study in Ramps 130 Steve Clayton 03-Mar-20 17:29
Re: A Study in Ramps 130 cladking 03-Mar-20 21:11
Re: A Study in Ramps 120 Steve Clayton 07-Mar-20 18:12
Re: A Study in Ramps 149 Thanos5150 03-Mar-20 16:10
Re: A Study in Ramps 144 Steve Clayton 03-Mar-20 16:57
Re: A Study in Ramps 138 Warwick 03-Mar-20 19:57
Re: A Study in Ramps 138 cladking 03-Mar-20 21:21
Sam Briefly changes Feet 127 Warwick 04-Mar-20 17:27
Re: Sam Briefly changes Feet 122 cladking 04-Mar-20 17:49
Re: Sam Briefly changes Feet 126 Warwick 04-Mar-20 18:12
Rollers and Rope 141 Steve Clayton 04-Mar-20 16:41
Re: Rollers and Rope 118 Open mind 04-Mar-20 16:53
Re: Rollers and Rope 126 Steve Clayton 04-Mar-20 22:22
Re: Rollers and Rope 129 Open mind 05-Mar-20 01:25
Re: Rollers and Rope 121 Steve Clayton 05-Mar-20 15:34
Re: Rollers and Rope 127 Open mind 05-Mar-20 16:08
Re: Rollers and Rope 123 cladking 05-Mar-20 16:32
Re: Rollers and Rope 120 Open mind 05-Mar-20 18:26
Re: Rollers and Rope 125 Open mind 05-Mar-20 18:40
Re: Rollers and Rope 125 cladking 05-Mar-20 21:13
Re: Rollers and Rope 111 Steve Clayton 06-Mar-20 16:14
Re: Rollers and Rope 138 Steve Clayton 06-Mar-20 02:11
Re: Rollers and Rope 145 cladking 06-Mar-20 15:09
Re: Rollers and Rope 125 Open mind 07-Mar-20 01:35
Re: Rollers and Rope 128 cladking 04-Mar-20 17:37
Re: Rollers and Rope 124 Open mind 04-Mar-20 19:18
Re: Rollers and Rope 132 cladking 04-Mar-20 19:30
Re: Rollers and Rope 124 Open mind 04-Mar-20 21:29
Re: Rollers and Rope 133 Warwick 04-Mar-20 21:35
Re: Rollers and Rope 120 Open mind 04-Mar-20 22:24
Re: Rollers and Rope 126 cladking 04-Mar-20 22:31
Re: Rollers and Rope 130 cladking 04-Mar-20 22:35
Re: Rollers and Rope 136 Steve Clayton 08-Mar-20 01:03
Re: Rollers and Rope 122 Warwick 08-Mar-20 18:46
Re: Rollers and Rope 126 Steve Clayton 08-Mar-20 21:34
Re: Rollers and Rope 136 Thanos5150 09-Mar-20 00:59
Re: Rollers and Rope 135 Steve Clayton 09-Mar-20 14:15
Re: Rollers and Rope 121 Warwick 09-Mar-20 17:53
Re: Rollers and Rope 120 Open mind 09-Mar-20 18:10
Re: Rollers and Rope 122 Warwick 09-Mar-20 18:27
Re: Rollers and Rope 126 Steve Clayton 08-Mar-20 01:55
Re: Rollers and Rope 127 cladking 04-Mar-20 22:23
Re: Rollers and Rope 125 Open mind 04-Mar-20 22:30
Re: Rollers and Rope 123 cladking 04-Mar-20 22:50
Re: Rollers and Rope 130 Steve Clayton 04-Mar-20 23:06
Re: Rollers and Rope 125 cladking 05-Mar-20 01:01
Re: Rollers and Rope 126 Open mind 05-Mar-20 01:10
Re: Rollers and Rope 128 Steve Clayton 05-Mar-20 00:10
Re: Rollers and Rope 126 Open mind 05-Mar-20 00:52
Re: Rollers and Rope 128 Steve Clayton 05-Mar-20 16:04
Re: Rollers and Rope 124 Open mind 05-Mar-20 18:13
Re: Rollers and Rope 126 Steve Clayton 05-Mar-20 19:10
Khufu Quarry Ramp, G1-X and T.P.'s 153 Manu 08-Mar-20 22:32
Re: Khufu Quarry Ramp, G1-X and T.P.'s 130 Steve Clayton 08-Mar-20 23:22
Re: A Study in Ramps 149 Steve Clayton 04-Apr-20 22:14
Re: A Study in Ramps 148 cladking 11-May-20 14:42
Re: A Study in Ramps 119 Steve Clayton 13-May-20 03:06
Re: A Study in Ramps 107 Hanslune 13-May-20 19:58
Re: A Study in Ramps 100 cladking 14-May-20 13:48
The reason you always refused to provide drawings of your ideas 97 Hanslune 14-May-20 21:22
Re: The reason you always refused to provide drawings of your ideas 94 cladking 15-May-20 14:34
Re: The reason you always refused to provide drawings of your ideas 98 Hanslune 15-May-20 15:25
Re: The reason you always refused to provide drawings of your ideas 106 cladking 15-May-20 17:46
...and he's off and running 124 Hanslune 16-May-20 17:12
Re: ...and he's off and running 99 Steve Clayton 18-May-20 18:56
Re: ...and he's off and running 91 Warwick 18-May-20 19:47
Re: ...and he's off and running 94 Steve Clayton 18-May-20 20:31
Re: ...and he's off and running 95 Hanslune 18-May-20 22:01
Re: ...and he's off and running 95 Steve Clayton 20-May-20 22:37
Re: ...and he's off and running 80 Warwick 21-May-20 17:28
Re: ...and he's off and running 99 cladking 18-May-20 20:58
Re: ...and he's off and running 92 Hanslune 18-May-20 22:16
Re: ...and he's off and running 91 Steve Clayton 21-May-20 00:06
Re: ...and he's off and running 93 Sirfiroth 21-May-20 16:56
Re: ...and he's off and running 85 Warwick 21-May-20 17:40
Re: ...and he's off and running 124 Sirfiroth 21-May-20 20:44
Re: ...and he's off and running 96 Warwick 22-May-20 02:53
Re: ...and he's off and running 111 Steve Clayton 27-May-20 23:04
Elementary 80 Warwick 28-May-20 16:56
Re: Elementary 84 cladking 28-May-20 20:36
Re: Elementary 83 Warwick 28-May-20 20:51
Walk Like an Egypt(ologist). 103 cladking 29-May-20 13:48
just saw this 74 Warwick 04-Jun-20 20:02
Re: just saw this 72 cladking 04-Jun-20 20:15
Re: Elementary 93 Steve Clayton 28-May-20 21:59
Re: Elementary 84 cladking 29-May-20 13:41
Re: Elementary 94 Steve Clayton 30-May-20 14:14
Re: Elementary 79 cladking 31-May-20 13:37
Re: Elementary 92 Steve Clayton 31-May-20 20:03
Re: Elementary 87 cladking 31-May-20 21:55
Our History is Writ in the Rainbow. 76 cladking 01-Jun-20 14:32
still avoiding the POINT 79 Warwick 01-Jun-20 18:46
Re: still avoiding the POINT 89 cladking 01-Jun-20 21:19
It was the BORG 71 Warwick 02-Jun-20 19:02
Reality Itself was Anthropomorphized 94 cladking 03-Jun-20 01:10
Re: Reality Itself was Anthropomorphized 74 Warwick 03-Jun-20 17:35
Re: Reality Itself was Anthropomorphized 85 cladking 03-Jun-20 19:11
Can We Get Back to Chasing Rainbows? :-) 77 thinkitover 04-Jun-20 08:41
Re: Can We Get Back to Chasing Rainbows? :-) 74 cladking 04-Jun-20 13:38
Re: Can We Get Back to Chasing Rainbows? :-) 67 Warwick 04-Jun-20 17:28
Re: Can We Get Back to Chasing Rainbows? :-) 76 cladking 04-Jun-20 20:37
Re: Can We Get Back to Chasing Rainbows? :-) 71 Warwick 04-Jun-20 21:24
Re: Can We Get Back to Chasing Rainbows? :-) 82 cladking 04-Jun-20 21:48
Re: still avoiding the POINT 88 Steve Clayton 02-Jun-20 16:37
Re: still avoiding the POINT 75 cladking 02-Jun-20 18:45
Re: still avoiding the POINT 69 Warwick 02-Jun-20 18:55
Re: still avoiding the POINT 78 Steve Clayton 02-Jun-20 20:42
Re: still avoiding the POINT 72 Warwick 02-Jun-20 21:11
Re: still avoiding the POINT 85 Steve Clayton 02-Jun-20 23:05
Doing your work for you 76 Warwick 03-Jun-20 17:56
Re: Doing your work for you 84 Steve Clayton 04-Jun-20 02:12
Re: Doing your work for you 69 Warwick 04-Jun-20 18:03
Re: Doing your work for you 86 Steve Clayton 07-Jun-20 22:14
Re: Doing your work for you 84 Warwick 08-Jun-20 19:47
Re: still avoiding the POINT 92 SandyJesse 13-Jun-20 23:15
Re: still avoiding the POINT 106 Steve Clayton 14-Jun-20 23:19
Re: still avoiding the POINT 118 SandyJesse 18-Jun-20 22:49
Help!!!! 94 Warwick 21-May-20 17:33
Good luck Steve 94 Hanslune 18-May-20 21:55
Re: A Study in Ramps 106 cladking 14-May-20 13:57
Key words run through a database isn't research Cladking 93 Hanslune 14-May-20 21:51
Re: A Study in Ramps 128 LonelyAngel 14-May-20 16:31
Re: A Study in Ramps 103 Hanslune 14-May-20 21:56
Re: A Study in Ramps 91 Steve Clayton 18-May-20 21:53
Re: A Study in Ramps 97 Hanslune 18-May-20 22:20
Re: A Study in Ramps 112 Steve Clayton 19-May-20 01:16
Re: A Study in Ramps 102 Hanslune 19-May-20 14:45
Re: A Study in Ramps 110 Steve Clayton 19-May-20 16:07
Please, leave the windmills to Sam 99 Warwick 19-May-20 18:34
Re: Please, leave the windmills to Sam 103 Steve Clayton 19-May-20 20:05
Re: Please, leave the windmills to Sam 89 Warwick 19-May-20 20:55
Re: Please, leave the windmills to Sam 111 Steve Clayton 19-May-20 21:33
Re: Please, leave the windmills to Sam 95 cladking 20-May-20 02:47
Your lack of evidence isn't a problem you can put on others - its yours 97 Hanslune 20-May-20 04:58
Egyptology's Cultural Context 97 cladking 20-May-20 13:53
Ramp theory vs Geyser powered Funicular idea 94 Hanslune 20-May-20 15:43
Re: Ramp theory vs Geyser powered Funicular idea 90 cladking 20-May-20 17:17
Re: Ramp theory vs Geyser powered Funicular idea 92 Hanslune 22-May-20 17:02
Re: Ramp theory vs Geyser powered Funicular idea 97 Warwick 24-May-20 18:13
Re: Ramp theory vs Geyser powered Funicular idea 93 cladking 24-May-20 19:18
In normal conversation... 94 Warwick 24-May-20 19:52
Re: In normal conversation... 119 cladking 25-May-20 01:06
Another final word (waste of time) 115 Warwick 25-May-20 17:52
Re: Another final word (waste of time) 80 Hanslune 26-May-20 14:59
Re: Another final word (waste of time) 102 cladking 26-May-20 15:11
Re: Ramp theory vs Geyser powered Funicular idea 105 Steve Clayton 30-May-20 15:27
Long Live Ramps! 79 cladking 31-May-20 14:05
Re: Egyptology's Cultural Context 81 Warwick 20-May-20 18:05
Re: Egyptology's Cultural Context 99 cladking 20-May-20 20:37
Re: Egyptology's Cultural Context 83 Warwick 20-May-20 21:55
Re: Egyptology's Cultural Context 98 cladking 21-May-20 01:01
Re: Egyptology's Cultural Context 87 Warwick 21-May-20 17:17
Re: Please, leave the windmills to Sam 84 Warwick 20-May-20 18:03
REALITY CHECK 106 Warwick 20-May-20 18:02
Re: REALITY CHECK 93 Steve Clayton 20-May-20 20:28
Re: REALITY CHECK 89 Warwick 20-May-20 22:04
Re: REALITY CHECK 93 Steve Clayton 20-May-20 23:53
Re: REALITY CHECK 85 Warwick 21-May-20 17:12
My boy Luke can eat 50 eggs. n/t 90 cladking 21-May-20 01:08
Re: A Study in Ramps 100 Hanslune 20-May-20 04:53
The trouble is.. 89 Warwick 20-May-20 18:09
Re: The trouble is.. 102 Steve Clayton 20-May-20 20:15
Re: The trouble is.. 87 Warwick 20-May-20 22:16
Re: A Study in Ramps 103 Steve Clayton 20-May-20 19:13
Re: A Study in Ramps 88 Warwick 20-May-20 22:20
Re: A Study in Ramps 100 Steve Clayton 20-May-20 22:46
Re: A Study in Ramps 102 SandyJesse 21-May-20 00:08
Re: A Study in Ramps 101 Steve Clayton 21-May-20 03:19
Re: A Study in Ramps 104 SandyJesse 21-May-20 04:17
Re: A Study in Ramps 101 Steve Clayton 21-May-20 14:19
Re: A Study in Ramps 97 cladking 21-May-20 14:37
Re: A Study in Ramps 95 cladking 21-May-20 14:53
Re: A Study in Ramps 115 Steve Clayton 21-May-20 15:38
there's the windmill 98 Warwick 21-May-20 17:05
Re: there's the windmill 99 cladking 22-May-20 13:24
Re: there's the windmill 88 Warwick 25-May-20 17:39
Re: there's the windmill 82 cladking 30-May-20 14:11
Re: A Study in Ramps 100 Hanslune 22-May-20 17:39
Re: A Study in Ramps 99 SandyJesse 21-May-20 15:47
Re: A Study in Ramps 113 Steve Clayton 21-May-20 16:09
Re: A Study in Ramps 96 Warwick 21-May-20 16:46
Re: A Study in Ramps 99 Warwick 21-May-20 17:44
Re: A Study in Ramps 90 Warwick 21-May-20 16:57
Re: A Study in Ramps 86 Warwick 21-May-20 16:40
Re: A Study in Ramps 95 Warwick 21-May-20 16:39
Re: A Study in Ramps 101 Hanslune 22-May-20 17:32
Re: A Study in Ramps 163 Thanos5150 23-May-20 00:00
Re: A Study in Ramps 100 Warwick 24-May-20 18:02
Re: A Study in Ramps 101 cladking 24-May-20 19:22
I've got an idea 92 Warwick 24-May-20 19:47
Re: I've got an idea 96 cladking 24-May-20 19:59
Re: I've got an idea 88 Warwick 25-May-20 17:30


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