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Hanslune Wrote:
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> Steve Clayton Wrote:
>
> >
> > Hi Hanslune,
> >
> > It is simpler than that.
> >
> > There is plenty of water even today, situated
> > behind the Pyramids. It wells up in a number of
> > locations. You can use Google Earth, and find
> > them, or I can show you with longitude
> settings.
> > Can you use Google Earth? They well up and
> > disappear on a regular basis. It was much
> wetter
> > 4,500 years ago. Not like what we see today.
> And,
> > as water runs downhill, they had a constant
> > source. They were proficient ditch diggers,
> which
> > is well documented. I spend the better part of
> a
> > year researching all the potential water
> sources,
> > creating height maps and terrain mapping. There
> > are a few which are within 1-2 hours walking
> > distance. The Nile has plenty of water. Water
> from
> > rain. Monsoons swept down from India on a
> regular
> > basis.
>
> Monsoons?
>
>
> So again where were the tons of water coming from.
> There is water in the limestone beneath the
> Plateau but how did they lift it up?
>
> The water table is near the surfaces even
> > today. They need to pump water out from
> beneath
> > the Sphinx on a regular basis. Water is
> > surprisingly heavy. A single cubic foot = 62.43
> > lbs.
>
> Yes and the sphinx is nearly the bottom of the
> ridge line
> >  
> > The causeways are the tracks. There are two
> sides
> > to the causeways. Two separate tracks.
>
> okay
>
>
>  As one
> > vessel filled with water slides down one side,
> > the other side was being pulled upward. On that
> > side, the vessel was carrying stones, of the
> same
> > amount of water weight. A true counterbalance.
>
> So you are saying one of the counter-weight drew
> up the other as the other went down?
>
>
> > They were connected with rope(s). Barges, are
> > built to keep water in, as that add ballast.
> > Without that water, the barge is subjected to
> > tipping over. All they did was increases the
> inner
> > framing to hold even more water than usual. The
> > water weight was filled at the top and drained
> at
> > the bottom, as stones were being placed and/or
> > removed. They then switched the water filling
> to
> > the other side, and repeated the operation.
>
> So the downward counterweight had to be filled
> enough to move heavier one and over come friction,
> got there the water was dumped, stones but on it
> while the upwards one was emptied of stone and
> filled with water.
>
> So the problem I see is a source of water getting
> it to the barge and then the runoff of the water
> dumped. How many tones of water do you figure was
> used to draw up the other side - how many ton of
> stones were they bringing up. So are the ramps out
> of the quarries to the point to the causeway?
>
> Once the stone were removed how were they then
> moved up to their place on the pyramid? Or can you
> show in a diagram where the 'station' was? How was
> the pivot constructed and where?
>
> Thanks

Hi Hanslune,

Can you use Google Earth? Please answer me. I will show you the water source.

They drained the water back into the NIle down at the dock. This is also where they loaded the stones, and/or simply engaged the Barge/stones into the system. The later has some additional benefit. It depends, it they were using the system for pulling stones up the Pyramid face, or using men to perform the lift. Both are possible. 

You are no different than the majority of individuals, who do not fully grasp, how heavy water really is. I also once underestimated it. How I became informed, is that I learned Sketchup, a 3D program, which will calculate volume. Once you know the volume, ie. square footage, you can then determine the cubic footage. Next you can multiply that by 62.4lbs., which is the weight of 1 cubic foot of water.  1 cubic foot of water = 62.41 pounds. Additionally, you need to understand, you are working on an Incline Plain, which lessens the amount of force (work load) required in moving the stone uphill on the Causeway dramatically. It lessens the amount of water weight needed to perform the pull.

I have illustrated, and provided links concerning the science behind this relationship, repeatably here on GH for many years. It is a workable physics model. I have no idea, if they knew and understood and used the environment the way I propose. I only show it is possible, and that there is another way to deliver stones up to higher levels, than by using ramps. Ramps were not necessary. At times, it seems I have attacked someones sacred cow...

There are 6 "simple machines" known to mankind. The Incline Plain is one of them, along with levers, wedges, and others ie. pulley, screw, and the wheel and axle. The later three they were likely unaware of, though you can still benefit from a so called Pulley, without an axle. There are indications, they possessed this knowledge. The 2 to 1 rope mechanical advantage, is so simple to have accidentally discovered, it was likely learned thousands of years before the AE. Hang a gut a deer between two near by trees, and you would discover it...

Example: The average size 2.5 ton Pyramid stone measures approx. (127cm, 127cm x 71cm) or ( 50", 50" x 28"). That same volume in water weight = 40.51 cubic feet. Multiply 40.51 x 1 cubic foot of water ( 62.43lbs.) = 2,529 lbs. The water is actually 28 lbs. heavier than the stone.  An barge being 10 feet wide and 30 feet long, and 8 feet tall = 2,400 cubic feet. or 2,400 x 62.43lbs. = 149,832 lbs. That is equivalent to 60 stones in weight. And Yes, that is where they obtained the ability to lift stones, with very little effort. You can custom tailor the size of the barge to the amount of stone you needed, to meet the 1 stone every 3 minutes criteria. The excepted rate required to build the Pyramid in the lifetime of a Pharaoh.

In fact, it is the only scenario that can achieve this rate, and higher if needed. Men pulling stones up ramps is a Myth. That approach, can not deliver enough stone rate needed. I dare anyone, to show me different, while I have just shown you a true possibility. It only required some ingenuity and water. Only people who cannot explain the usage of the causeway, believe they were built for a Funerary purpose. They may have been used in that fashion, after the Pyramid was built, but that was not their primary purpose.

Now do you better understand? Would you like all my links, and pictures to qualify my statements above. So you see, and can prove my scenario works in the real world.

Did they use it? They would have been really stupid, if they were unable to figure this out.




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A Study in Ramps 1529 Steve Clayton 01-Mar-20 17:30
Re: A Study in Ramps 235 Manu 01-Mar-20 18:25
Re: A Study in Ramps 224 Steve Clayton 01-Mar-20 20:08
Re: A Study in Ramps 213 Manu 02-Mar-20 02:31
Re: A Study in Ramps 195 Steve Clayton 02-Mar-20 04:54
Re: A Study in Ramps 210 Warwick 01-Mar-20 19:13
Re: A Study in Ramps 198 Steve Clayton 01-Mar-20 20:11
Addendum 195 Steve Clayton 01-Mar-20 22:51
Re: Addendum 206 Manu 02-Mar-20 02:22
Re: Addendum 188 Steve Clayton 02-Mar-20 04:56
Re: Addendum 191 Manu 02-Mar-20 11:15
an observation 196 Warwick 02-Mar-20 18:26
Re: an observation 199 cladking 02-Mar-20 18:38
Re: an observation 179 Warwick 02-Mar-20 18:45
Re: an observation 183 cladking 02-Mar-20 18:52
Point of Order 180 Warwick 02-Mar-20 18:56
Re: Point of Order 171 cladking 02-Mar-20 20:17
Re: Point of Order 184 Warwick 02-Mar-20 23:37
You Meant "Superstitious Idiots" As A Complement? 177 thinkitover 03-Mar-20 05:20
Re: You Meant "Superstitious Idiots" As A Complement? 174 Warwick 03-Mar-20 05:40
Re: You Meant "Superstitious Idiots" As A Complement? 170 cladking 03-Mar-20 14:08
Re: You Meant "Superstitious Idiots" As A Complement? 165 Warwick 03-Mar-20 18:45
Re: You Meant "Superstitious Idiots" As A Complement? 170 cladking 03-Mar-20 20:54
Re: You Meant "Superstitious Idiots" As A Complement? 137 cladking 11-May-20 14:33
Re: an observation 169 Steve Clayton 03-Mar-20 17:05
Re: an observation 168 Warwick 03-Mar-20 18:56
Re: an observation 157 cladking 03-Mar-20 20:57
Re: an observation 154 Warwick 04-Mar-20 17:49
Re: an observation 161 cladking 04-Mar-20 17:58
One Last Try 167 Warwick 04-Mar-20 18:04
20 % of 1.5 Million 162 Warwick 04-Mar-20 18:06
I forgot 163 Warwick 04-Mar-20 18:07
Re: One Last Try 163 cladking 04-Mar-20 18:18
Re: One Last Try 153 Warwick 04-Mar-20 18:33
Re: One Last Try 161 Steve Clayton 04-Mar-20 19:33
Re: One Last Try 164 Warwick 04-Mar-20 19:48
Re: One Last Try 157 cladking 04-Mar-20 20:04
Re: One Last Try 159 Warwick 04-Mar-20 20:21
Re: One Last Try 161 cladking 04-Mar-20 20:57
Re: One Last Try 164 Warwick 04-Mar-20 21:38
Re: It's Spring 160 Steve Clayton 05-Mar-20 13:13
Re: One Last Try 159 Steve Clayton 04-Mar-20 22:45
Re: One Last Try 163 Thanos5150 05-Mar-20 16:36
Re: One Last Try 162 cladking 05-Mar-20 16:56
Re: One Last Try 157 cladking 04-Mar-20 19:57
Re: One Last Try 154 Steve Clayton 05-Mar-20 13:54
Re: One Last Try 162 cladking 05-Mar-20 15:00
Re: an observation 167 Steve Clayton 03-Mar-20 00:36
Re: Addendum 168 SandyJesse 05-Mar-20 23:11
Re: Addendum 148 Steve Clayton 06-Mar-20 16:01
Re: Addendum 153 SandyJesse 07-Mar-20 23:16
Re: A Study in Ramps 190 cladking 01-Mar-20 22:58
Re: A Study in Ramps 181 Steve Clayton 02-Mar-20 03:31
Re: A Study in Ramps 159 cladking 02-Mar-20 18:47
Point of Order 164 Warwick 02-Mar-20 19:00
Re: Point of Order 158 cladking 02-Mar-20 20:05
Re: Point of Order 160 Warwick 02-Mar-20 23:43
Re: Point of Order 155 cladking 03-Mar-20 02:20
Re: Point of Order 160 Warwick 03-Mar-20 04:32
Re: Point of Order 153 cladking 03-Mar-20 14:40
Re: Point of Order 150 Open mind 03-Mar-20 15:14
Re: Point of Order 157 Warwick 03-Mar-20 18:37
Re: Point of Order 152 Open mind 03-Mar-20 19:14
Re: Point of Order - O/T, sort of 156 Warwick 03-Mar-20 19:52
Re: Point of Order 178 Steve Clayton 03-Mar-20 00:09
Re: Point of Order 163 thinkitover 03-Mar-20 05:27
Re: Point of Order 157 cladking 03-Mar-20 14:24
Re: Point of Order 160 Steve Clayton 03-Mar-20 19:44
Re: Point of Order 155 cladking 03-Mar-20 20:59
Re: Point of Order 157 Steve Clayton 03-Mar-20 23:34
Re: Point of Order 171 cladking 04-Mar-20 01:10
Re: Point of Order 193 Thanos5150 04-Mar-20 02:03
Re: Point of Order 161 engbren 04-Mar-20 12:46
Saw Palace Context Sign is pr wr. 180 Manu 04-Mar-20 13:12
Re: Point of Order 170 cladking 04-Mar-20 14:45
Re: Point of Order 176 Manu 04-Mar-20 14:49
Re: Point of Order 166 cladking 04-Mar-20 17:18
Re: Point of Order 161 Manu 04-Mar-20 17:36
Re: Point of Order 160 cladking 04-Mar-20 18:10
Re: Point of Order 165 cladking 07-Mar-20 21:05
Re: Point of Order 155 Steve Clayton 06-Mar-20 19:57
Re: Point of Order 149 cladking 04-Mar-20 17:15
Re: Point of Order 149 Steve Clayton 04-Mar-20 18:29
Re: Point of Order 143 cladking 04-Mar-20 18:44
Re: Point of Order 179 cladking 04-Mar-20 15:44
Re: Point of Order 176 Thanos5150 04-Mar-20 16:23
Re: Point of Order 169 cladking 04-Mar-20 16:43
Re: Point of Order 155 Thanos5150 04-Mar-20 17:38
Re: Point of Order 151 Warwick 04-Mar-20 17:46
Re: Point of Order 159 cladking 04-Mar-20 20:47
Burn all the books!!! 144 Warwick 05-Mar-20 17:46
Re: Rewrite all the books!!! 167 cladking 05-Mar-20 18:02
Re: Rewrite all the books!!! 141 Warwick 05-Mar-20 18:14
...Then We might as well just Chuck the Books. 152 cladking 05-Mar-20 18:53
Re: ...Then We might as well just Chuck the Books. 146 Warwick 05-Mar-20 20:11
Re: ...Then We might as well just Chuck the Books. 162 cladking 05-Mar-20 21:02
Re: ...Then We might as well just Chuck the Books. 157 Warwick 05-Mar-20 21:42
Re: Point of Order 158 Steve Clayton 04-Mar-20 17:58
Re: Point of Order 152 cladking 04-Mar-20 18:48
Re: Point of Order 148 Steve Clayton 06-Mar-20 16:34
Re: Point of Order 159 cladking 06-Mar-20 19:31
Re: Point of Order 150 Steve Clayton 07-Mar-20 00:47
Re: Point of Order 149 cladking 07-Mar-20 01:24
Re: Point of Order 155 Steve Clayton 07-Mar-20 17:40
Re: Point of Order 139 cladking 07-Mar-20 20:52
Re: Point of Order 156 Manu 06-Mar-20 20:31
Re: Point of Order 151 cladking 06-Mar-20 20:47
ST3W 160 Manu 06-Mar-20 21:16
Re: Point of Order 151 cladking 06-Mar-20 21:18
Ra-st3w 169 Manu 06-Mar-20 21:33
Re: Ra-st3w 161 cladking 06-Mar-20 23:08
Re: Ra-st3w 165 cladking 06-Mar-20 23:23
Re: Ra-st3w 149 cladking 09-Mar-20 03:18
Re: Point of Order 147 Steve Clayton 07-Mar-20 01:21
Re: Point of Order 155 Manu 08-Mar-20 17:24
Re: Point of Order 143 Steve Clayton 08-Mar-20 19:07
Re: Point of Order 138 Warwick 08-Mar-20 19:21
Re: Point of Order 149 cladking 08-Mar-20 21:13
Re: Point of Order 135 Steve Clayton 08-Mar-20 22:01
Re: Point of Order 153 cladking 08-Mar-20 23:12
Re: Point of Order 136 Steve Clayton 09-Mar-20 15:38
Re: Point of Order 132 cladking 09-Mar-20 17:49
Re: Point of Order 129 Steve Clayton 09-Mar-20 20:25
Re: Point of Order 150 Warwick 09-Mar-20 20:48
Re: Point of Order 143 Steve Clayton 09-Mar-20 23:12
Re: Point of Order 140 Warwick 10-Mar-20 17:01
Re: Point of Order 137 Steve Clayton 10-Mar-20 20:41
Obvious to all?? 135 Warwick 11-Mar-20 17:10
after all 134 Warwick 11-Mar-20 17:14
Re: Obvious to all?? 125 cladking 11-Mar-20 18:12
Re: Obvious to all?? 154 Warwick 11-Mar-20 18:19
Khafre Causeway-Logistics before Religion? 144 Manu 08-Mar-20 19:28
think conduit 133 Warwick 08-Mar-20 19:57
further reading 131 Warwick 08-Mar-20 20:00
Re: Khafre Causeway-Logistics before Religion? 137 Steve Clayton 08-Mar-20 20:12
Re: Point of Order 147 cladking 08-Mar-20 14:32
Re: Point of Order 153 Manu 08-Mar-20 15:01
Re: Point of Order 143 cladking 08-Mar-20 15:44
Re: Point of Order 144 Manu 08-Mar-20 16:03
Re: Point of Order 135 cladking 08-Mar-20 23:21
Re: Point of Order 151 Thanos5150 08-Mar-20 16:05
Re: Point of Order 135 Warwick 08-Mar-20 19:28
Re: Point of Order 141 cladking 08-Mar-20 21:25
Re: Point of Order 144 Steve Clayton 08-Mar-20 20:49
Re: Point of Order 133 Warwick 08-Mar-20 20:59
Re: Point of Order 147 Steve Clayton 08-Mar-20 22:08
Re: Point of Order 141 cladking 08-Mar-20 23:16
Re: Point of Order 139 Warwick 09-Mar-20 17:39
Re: Point of Order 142 cladking 08-Mar-20 21:05
Re: Point of Order 153 Steve Clayton 03-Mar-20 16:44
Re: Point of Order 137 cladking 03-Mar-20 21:03
Re: Point of Order 137 Steve Clayton 04-Mar-20 17:40
Re: Point of Order 136 cladking 04-Mar-20 19:09
Re: Point of Order 133 Steve Clayton 05-Mar-20 17:03
Re: Point of Order 134 cladking 05-Mar-20 17:52
A stupid question 148 Warwick 05-Mar-20 17:55
Re: A stupid question 136 cladking 05-Mar-20 18:47
Re: A stupid question 147 Steve Clayton 06-Mar-20 17:49
Re: A stupid question 144 Warwick 07-Mar-20 19:14
Re: A stupid question 143 Steve Clayton 07-Mar-20 23:09
Re: A stupid question 130 Warwick 08-Mar-20 18:41
Re: Point of Order 154 Open mind 03-Mar-20 15:26
Re: Point of Order 142 cladking 03-Mar-20 21:07
Re: A Study in Ramps 148 Steve Clayton 03-Mar-20 17:29
Re: A Study in Ramps 153 cladking 03-Mar-20 21:11
Re: A Study in Ramps 139 Steve Clayton 07-Mar-20 18:12
Re: A Study in Ramps 164 Thanos5150 03-Mar-20 16:10
Re: A Study in Ramps 166 Steve Clayton 03-Mar-20 16:57
Re: A Study in Ramps 157 Warwick 03-Mar-20 19:57
Re: A Study in Ramps 155 cladking 03-Mar-20 21:21
Sam Briefly changes Feet 148 Warwick 04-Mar-20 17:27
Re: Sam Briefly changes Feet 142 cladking 04-Mar-20 17:49
Re: Sam Briefly changes Feet 143 Warwick 04-Mar-20 18:12
Rollers and Rope 158 Steve Clayton 04-Mar-20 16:41
Re: Rollers and Rope 134 Open mind 04-Mar-20 16:53
Re: Rollers and Rope 146 Steve Clayton 04-Mar-20 22:22
Re: Rollers and Rope 150 Open mind 05-Mar-20 01:25
Re: Rollers and Rope 136 Steve Clayton 05-Mar-20 15:34
Re: Rollers and Rope 146 Open mind 05-Mar-20 16:08
Re: Rollers and Rope 142 cladking 05-Mar-20 16:32
Re: Rollers and Rope 140 Open mind 05-Mar-20 18:26
Re: Rollers and Rope 141 Open mind 05-Mar-20 18:40
Re: Rollers and Rope 141 cladking 05-Mar-20 21:13
Re: Rollers and Rope 131 Steve Clayton 06-Mar-20 16:14
Re: Rollers and Rope 152 Steve Clayton 06-Mar-20 02:11
Re: Rollers and Rope 161 cladking 06-Mar-20 15:09
Re: Rollers and Rope 142 Open mind 07-Mar-20 01:35
Re: Rollers and Rope 147 cladking 04-Mar-20 17:37
Re: Rollers and Rope 138 Open mind 04-Mar-20 19:18
Re: Rollers and Rope 151 cladking 04-Mar-20 19:30
Re: Rollers and Rope 143 Open mind 04-Mar-20 21:29
Re: Rollers and Rope 151 Warwick 04-Mar-20 21:35
Re: Rollers and Rope 141 Open mind 04-Mar-20 22:24
Re: Rollers and Rope 146 cladking 04-Mar-20 22:31
Re: Rollers and Rope 149 cladking 04-Mar-20 22:35
Re: Rollers and Rope 152 Steve Clayton 08-Mar-20 01:03
Re: Rollers and Rope 137 Warwick 08-Mar-20 18:46
Re: Rollers and Rope 144 Steve Clayton 08-Mar-20 21:34
Re: Rollers and Rope 151 Thanos5150 09-Mar-20 00:59
Re: Rollers and Rope 150 Steve Clayton 09-Mar-20 14:15
Re: Rollers and Rope 138 Warwick 09-Mar-20 17:53
Re: Rollers and Rope 136 Open mind 09-Mar-20 18:10
Re: Rollers and Rope 138 Warwick 09-Mar-20 18:27
Re: Rollers and Rope 143 Steve Clayton 08-Mar-20 01:55
Re: Rollers and Rope 146 cladking 04-Mar-20 22:23
Re: Rollers and Rope 142 Open mind 04-Mar-20 22:30
Re: Rollers and Rope 139 cladking 04-Mar-20 22:50
Re: Rollers and Rope 147 Steve Clayton 04-Mar-20 23:06
Re: Rollers and Rope 142 cladking 05-Mar-20 01:01
Re: Rollers and Rope 146 Open mind 05-Mar-20 01:10
Re: Rollers and Rope 145 Steve Clayton 05-Mar-20 00:10
Re: Rollers and Rope 146 Open mind 05-Mar-20 00:52
Re: Rollers and Rope 147 Steve Clayton 05-Mar-20 16:04
Re: Rollers and Rope 140 Open mind 05-Mar-20 18:13
Re: Rollers and Rope 143 Steve Clayton 05-Mar-20 19:10
Khufu Quarry Ramp, G1-X and T.P.'s 171 Manu 08-Mar-20 22:32
Re: Khufu Quarry Ramp, G1-X and T.P.'s 155 Steve Clayton 08-Mar-20 23:22
Re: A Study in Ramps 167 Steve Clayton 04-Apr-20 22:14
Re: A Study in Ramps 172 cladking 11-May-20 14:42
Re: A Study in Ramps 140 Steve Clayton 13-May-20 03:06
Re: A Study in Ramps 127 Hanslune 13-May-20 19:58
Re: A Study in Ramps 117 cladking 14-May-20 13:48
The reason you always refused to provide drawings of your ideas 115 Hanslune 14-May-20 21:22
Re: The reason you always refused to provide drawings of your ideas 108 cladking 15-May-20 14:34
Re: The reason you always refused to provide drawings of your ideas 114 Hanslune 15-May-20 15:25
Re: The reason you always refused to provide drawings of your ideas 125 cladking 15-May-20 17:46
...and he's off and running 146 Hanslune 16-May-20 17:12
Re: ...and he's off and running 114 Steve Clayton 18-May-20 18:56
Re: ...and he's off and running 107 Warwick 18-May-20 19:47
Re: ...and he's off and running 110 Steve Clayton 18-May-20 20:31
Re: ...and he's off and running 112 Hanslune 18-May-20 22:01
Re: ...and he's off and running 115 Steve Clayton 20-May-20 22:37
Re: ...and he's off and running 96 Warwick 21-May-20 17:28
Re: ...and he's off and running 116 cladking 18-May-20 20:58
Re: ...and he's off and running 111 Hanslune 18-May-20 22:16
Re: ...and he's off and running 107 Steve Clayton 21-May-20 00:06
Re: ...and he's off and running 109 Sirfiroth 21-May-20 16:56
Re: ...and he's off and running 100 Warwick 21-May-20 17:40
Re: ...and he's off and running 144 Sirfiroth 21-May-20 20:44
Re: ...and he's off and running 113 Warwick 22-May-20 02:53
Re: ...and he's off and running 129 Steve Clayton 27-May-20 23:04
Elementary 96 Warwick 28-May-20 16:56
Re: Elementary 101 cladking 28-May-20 20:36
Re: Elementary 96 Warwick 28-May-20 20:51
Walk Like an Egypt(ologist). 118 cladking 29-May-20 13:48
just saw this 96 Warwick 04-Jun-20 20:02
Re: just saw this 91 cladking 04-Jun-20 20:15
Re: Elementary 110 Steve Clayton 28-May-20 21:59
Re: Elementary 100 cladking 29-May-20 13:41
Re: Elementary 111 Steve Clayton 30-May-20 14:14
Re: Elementary 96 cladking 31-May-20 13:37
Re: Elementary 110 Steve Clayton 31-May-20 20:03
Re: Elementary 103 cladking 31-May-20 21:55
Our History is Writ in the Rainbow. 89 cladking 01-Jun-20 14:32
still avoiding the POINT 92 Warwick 01-Jun-20 18:46
Re: still avoiding the POINT 104 cladking 01-Jun-20 21:19
It was the BORG 87 Warwick 02-Jun-20 19:02
Reality Itself was Anthropomorphized 114 cladking 03-Jun-20 01:10
Re: Reality Itself was Anthropomorphized 90 Warwick 03-Jun-20 17:35
Re: Reality Itself was Anthropomorphized 102 cladking 03-Jun-20 19:11
Can We Get Back to Chasing Rainbows? :-) 94 thinkitover 04-Jun-20 08:41
Re: Can We Get Back to Chasing Rainbows? :-) 90 cladking 04-Jun-20 13:38
Re: Can We Get Back to Chasing Rainbows? :-) 80 Warwick 04-Jun-20 17:28
Re: Can We Get Back to Chasing Rainbows? :-) 90 cladking 04-Jun-20 20:37
Re: Can We Get Back to Chasing Rainbows? :-) 88 Warwick 04-Jun-20 21:24
Re: Can We Get Back to Chasing Rainbows? :-) 101 cladking 04-Jun-20 21:48
Re: still avoiding the POINT 106 Steve Clayton 02-Jun-20 16:37
Re: still avoiding the POINT 94 cladking 02-Jun-20 18:45
Re: still avoiding the POINT 82 Warwick 02-Jun-20 18:55
Re: still avoiding the POINT 96 Steve Clayton 02-Jun-20 20:42
Re: still avoiding the POINT 84 Warwick 02-Jun-20 21:11
Re: still avoiding the POINT 101 Steve Clayton 02-Jun-20 23:05
Doing your work for you 93 Warwick 03-Jun-20 17:56
Re: Doing your work for you 102 Steve Clayton 04-Jun-20 02:12
Re: Doing your work for you 82 Warwick 04-Jun-20 18:03
Re: Doing your work for you 101 Steve Clayton 07-Jun-20 22:14
Re: Doing your work for you 103 Warwick 08-Jun-20 19:47
Re: still avoiding the POINT 113 SandyJesse 13-Jun-20 23:15
Re: still avoiding the POINT 125 Steve Clayton 14-Jun-20 23:19
Re: still avoiding the POINT 145 SandyJesse 18-Jun-20 22:49
Help!!!! 108 Warwick 21-May-20 17:33
Good luck Steve 109 Hanslune 18-May-20 21:55
Re: A Study in Ramps 126 cladking 14-May-20 13:57
Key words run through a database isn't research Cladking 110 Hanslune 14-May-20 21:51
Re: A Study in Ramps 162 LonelyAngel 14-May-20 16:31
Re: A Study in Ramps 118 Hanslune 14-May-20 21:56
Re: A Study in Ramps 107 Steve Clayton 18-May-20 21:53
Re: A Study in Ramps 114 Hanslune 18-May-20 22:20
Re: A Study in Ramps 132 Steve Clayton 19-May-20 01:16
Re: A Study in Ramps 119 Hanslune 19-May-20 14:45
Re: A Study in Ramps 129 Steve Clayton 19-May-20 16:07
Please, leave the windmills to Sam 115 Warwick 19-May-20 18:34
Re: Please, leave the windmills to Sam 118 Steve Clayton 19-May-20 20:05
Re: Please, leave the windmills to Sam 107 Warwick 19-May-20 20:55
Re: Please, leave the windmills to Sam 129 Steve Clayton 19-May-20 21:33
Re: Please, leave the windmills to Sam 112 cladking 20-May-20 02:47
Your lack of evidence isn't a problem you can put on others - its yours 117 Hanslune 20-May-20 04:58
Egyptology's Cultural Context 114 cladking 20-May-20 13:53
Ramp theory vs Geyser powered Funicular idea 111 Hanslune 20-May-20 15:43
Re: Ramp theory vs Geyser powered Funicular idea 109 cladking 20-May-20 17:17
Re: Ramp theory vs Geyser powered Funicular idea 109 Hanslune 22-May-20 17:02
Re: Ramp theory vs Geyser powered Funicular idea 116 Warwick 24-May-20 18:13
Re: Ramp theory vs Geyser powered Funicular idea 109 cladking 24-May-20 19:18
In normal conversation... 111 Warwick 24-May-20 19:52
Re: In normal conversation... 138 cladking 25-May-20 01:06
Another final word (waste of time) 131 Warwick 25-May-20 17:52
Re: Another final word (waste of time) 98 Hanslune 26-May-20 14:59
Re: Another final word (waste of time) 121 cladking 26-May-20 15:11
Re: Ramp theory vs Geyser powered Funicular idea 123 Steve Clayton 30-May-20 15:27
Long Live Ramps! 93 cladking 31-May-20 14:05
Re: Egyptology's Cultural Context 98 Warwick 20-May-20 18:05
Re: Egyptology's Cultural Context 115 cladking 20-May-20 20:37
Re: Egyptology's Cultural Context 98 Warwick 20-May-20 21:55
Re: Egyptology's Cultural Context 113 cladking 21-May-20 01:01
Re: Egyptology's Cultural Context 103 Warwick 21-May-20 17:17
Re: Please, leave the windmills to Sam 103 Warwick 20-May-20 18:03
REALITY CHECK 123 Warwick 20-May-20 18:02
Re: REALITY CHECK 112 Steve Clayton 20-May-20 20:28
Re: REALITY CHECK 106 Warwick 20-May-20 22:04
Re: REALITY CHECK 113 Steve Clayton 20-May-20 23:53
Re: REALITY CHECK 101 Warwick 21-May-20 17:12
My boy Luke can eat 50 eggs. n/t 111 cladking 21-May-20 01:08
Re: A Study in Ramps 119 Hanslune 20-May-20 04:53
The trouble is.. 105 Warwick 20-May-20 18:09
Re: The trouble is.. 120 Steve Clayton 20-May-20 20:15
Re: The trouble is.. 102 Warwick 20-May-20 22:16
Re: A Study in Ramps 120 Steve Clayton 20-May-20 19:13
Re: A Study in Ramps 104 Warwick 20-May-20 22:20
Re: A Study in Ramps 115 Steve Clayton 20-May-20 22:46
Re: A Study in Ramps 123 SandyJesse 21-May-20 00:08
Re: A Study in Ramps 120 Steve Clayton 21-May-20 03:19
Re: A Study in Ramps 125 SandyJesse 21-May-20 04:17
Re: A Study in Ramps 120 Steve Clayton 21-May-20 14:19
Re: A Study in Ramps 111 cladking 21-May-20 14:37
Re: A Study in Ramps 111 cladking 21-May-20 14:53
Re: A Study in Ramps 132 Steve Clayton 21-May-20 15:38
there's the windmill 115 Warwick 21-May-20 17:05
Re: there's the windmill 113 cladking 22-May-20 13:24
Re: there's the windmill 106 Warwick 25-May-20 17:39
Re: there's the windmill 100 cladking 30-May-20 14:11
Re: A Study in Ramps 118 Hanslune 22-May-20 17:39
Re: A Study in Ramps 116 SandyJesse 21-May-20 15:47
Re: A Study in Ramps 132 Steve Clayton 21-May-20 16:09
Re: A Study in Ramps 114 Warwick 21-May-20 16:46
Re: A Study in Ramps 119 Warwick 21-May-20 17:44
Re: A Study in Ramps 107 Warwick 21-May-20 16:57
Re: A Study in Ramps 104 Warwick 21-May-20 16:40
Re: A Study in Ramps 114 Warwick 21-May-20 16:39
Re: A Study in Ramps 119 Hanslune 22-May-20 17:32
Re: A Study in Ramps 196 Thanos5150 23-May-20 00:00
Re: A Study in Ramps 117 Warwick 24-May-20 18:02
Re: A Study in Ramps 121 cladking 24-May-20 19:22
I've got an idea 108 Warwick 24-May-20 19:47
Re: I've got an idea 115 cladking 24-May-20 19:59
Re: I've got an idea 105 Warwick 25-May-20 17:30


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