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Hanslune Wrote:
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> Steve Clayton Wrote:
>
> >
> > Hi Hanslune,
> >
> > It is simpler than that.
> >
> > There is plenty of water even today, situated
> > behind the Pyramids. It wells up in a number of
> > locations. You can use Google Earth, and find
> > them, or I can show you with longitude
> settings.
> > Can you use Google Earth? They well up and
> > disappear on a regular basis. It was much
> wetter
> > 4,500 years ago. Not like what we see today.
> And,
> > as water runs downhill, they had a constant
> > source. They were proficient ditch diggers,
> which
> > is well documented. I spend the better part of
> a
> > year researching all the potential water
> sources,
> > creating height maps and terrain mapping. There
> > are a few which are within 1-2 hours walking
> > distance. The Nile has plenty of water. Water
> from
> > rain. Monsoons swept down from India on a
> regular
> > basis.
>
> Monsoons?
>
>
> So again where were the tons of water coming from.
> There is water in the limestone beneath the
> Plateau but how did they lift it up?
>
> The water table is near the surfaces even
> > today. They need to pump water out from
> beneath
> > the Sphinx on a regular basis. Water is
> > surprisingly heavy. A single cubic foot = 62.43
> > lbs.
>
> Yes and the sphinx is nearly the bottom of the
> ridge line
> >  
> > The causeways are the tracks. There are two
> sides
> > to the causeways. Two separate tracks.
>
> okay
>
>
>  As one
> > vessel filled with water slides down one side,
> > the other side was being pulled upward. On that
> > side, the vessel was carrying stones, of the
> same
> > amount of water weight. A true counterbalance.
>
> So you are saying one of the counter-weight drew
> up the other as the other went down?
>
>
> > They were connected with rope(s). Barges, are
> > built to keep water in, as that add ballast.
> > Without that water, the barge is subjected to
> > tipping over. All they did was increases the
> inner
> > framing to hold even more water than usual. The
> > water weight was filled at the top and drained
> at
> > the bottom, as stones were being placed and/or
> > removed. They then switched the water filling
> to
> > the other side, and repeated the operation.
>
> So the downward counterweight had to be filled
> enough to move heavier one and over come friction,
> got there the water was dumped, stones but on it
> while the upwards one was emptied of stone and
> filled with water.
>
> So the problem I see is a source of water getting
> it to the barge and then the runoff of the water
> dumped. How many tones of water do you figure was
> used to draw up the other side - how many ton of
> stones were they bringing up. So are the ramps out
> of the quarries to the point to the causeway?
>
> Once the stone were removed how were they then
> moved up to their place on the pyramid? Or can you
> show in a diagram where the 'station' was? How was
> the pivot constructed and where?
>
> Thanks

Hi Hanslune,

Can you use Google Earth? Please answer me. I will show you the water source.

They drained the water back into the NIle down at the dock. This is also where they loaded the stones, and/or simply engaged the Barge/stones into the system. The later has some additional benefit. It depends, it they were using the system for pulling stones up the Pyramid face, or using men to perform the lift. Both are possible. 

You are no different than the majority of individuals, who do not fully grasp, how heavy water really is. I also once underestimated it. How I became informed, is that I learned Sketchup, a 3D program, which will calculate volume. Once you know the volume, ie. square footage, you can then determine the cubic footage. Next you can multiply that by 62.4lbs., which is the weight of 1 cubic foot of water.  1 cubic foot of water = 62.41 pounds. Additionally, you need to understand, you are working on an Incline Plain, which lessens the amount of force (work load) required in moving the stone uphill on the Causeway dramatically. It lessens the amount of water weight needed to perform the pull.

I have illustrated, and provided links concerning the science behind this relationship, repeatably here on GH for many years. It is a workable physics model. I have no idea, if they knew and understood and used the environment the way I propose. I only show it is possible, and that there is another way to deliver stones up to higher levels, than by using ramps. Ramps were not necessary. At times, it seems I have attacked someones sacred cow...

There are 6 "simple machines" known to mankind. The Incline Plain is one of them, along with levers, wedges, and others ie. pulley, screw, and the wheel and axle. The later three they were likely unaware of, though you can still benefit from a so called Pulley, without an axle. There are indications, they possessed this knowledge. The 2 to 1 rope mechanical advantage, is so simple to have accidentally discovered, it was likely learned thousands of years before the AE. Hang a gut a deer between two near by trees, and you would discover it...

Example: The average size 2.5 ton Pyramid stone measures approx. (127cm, 127cm x 71cm) or ( 50", 50" x 28"). That same volume in water weight = 40.51 cubic feet. Multiply 40.51 x 1 cubic foot of water ( 62.43lbs.) = 2,529 lbs. The water is actually 28 lbs. heavier than the stone.  An barge being 10 feet wide and 30 feet long, and 8 feet tall = 2,400 cubic feet. or 2,400 x 62.43lbs. = 149,832 lbs. That is equivalent to 60 stones in weight. And Yes, that is where they obtained the ability to lift stones, with very little effort. You can custom tailor the size of the barge to the amount of stone you needed, to meet the 1 stone every 3 minutes criteria. The excepted rate required to build the Pyramid in the lifetime of a Pharaoh.

In fact, it is the only scenario that can achieve this rate, and higher if needed. Men pulling stones up ramps is a Myth. That approach, can not deliver enough stone rate needed. I dare anyone, to show me different, while I have just shown you a true possibility. It only required some ingenuity and water. Only people who cannot explain the usage of the causeway, believe they were built for a Funerary purpose. They may have been used in that fashion, after the Pyramid was built, but that was not their primary purpose.

Now do you better understand? Would you like all my links, and pictures to qualify my statements above. So you see, and can prove my scenario works in the real world.

Did they use it? They would have been really stupid, if they were unable to figure this out.




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A Study in Ramps 1605 Steve Clayton 01-Mar-20 17:30
Re: A Study in Ramps 267 Manu 01-Mar-20 18:25
Re: A Study in Ramps 257 Steve Clayton 01-Mar-20 20:08
Re: A Study in Ramps 245 Manu 02-Mar-20 02:31
Re: A Study in Ramps 227 Steve Clayton 02-Mar-20 04:54
Re: A Study in Ramps 240 Warwick 01-Mar-20 19:13
Re: A Study in Ramps 230 Steve Clayton 01-Mar-20 20:11
Addendum 227 Steve Clayton 01-Mar-20 22:51
Re: Addendum 242 Manu 02-Mar-20 02:22
Re: Addendum 221 Steve Clayton 02-Mar-20 04:56
Re: Addendum 224 Manu 02-Mar-20 11:15
an observation 228 Warwick 02-Mar-20 18:26
Re: an observation 233 cladking 02-Mar-20 18:38
Re: an observation 217 Warwick 02-Mar-20 18:45
Re: an observation 212 cladking 02-Mar-20 18:52
Point of Order 213 Warwick 02-Mar-20 18:56
Re: Point of Order 209 cladking 02-Mar-20 20:17
Re: Point of Order 216 Warwick 02-Mar-20 23:37
You Meant "Superstitious Idiots" As A Complement? 212 thinkitover 03-Mar-20 05:20
Re: You Meant "Superstitious Idiots" As A Complement? 206 Warwick 03-Mar-20 05:40
Re: You Meant "Superstitious Idiots" As A Complement? 199 cladking 03-Mar-20 14:08
Re: You Meant "Superstitious Idiots" As A Complement? 195 Warwick 03-Mar-20 18:45
Re: You Meant "Superstitious Idiots" As A Complement? 202 cladking 03-Mar-20 20:54
Re: You Meant "Superstitious Idiots" As A Complement? 169 cladking 11-May-20 14:33
Re: an observation 204 Steve Clayton 03-Mar-20 17:05
Re: an observation 199 Warwick 03-Mar-20 18:56
Re: an observation 189 cladking 03-Mar-20 20:57
Re: an observation 183 Warwick 04-Mar-20 17:49
Re: an observation 196 cladking 04-Mar-20 17:58
One Last Try 199 Warwick 04-Mar-20 18:04
20 % of 1.5 Million 192 Warwick 04-Mar-20 18:06
I forgot 198 Warwick 04-Mar-20 18:07
Re: One Last Try 195 cladking 04-Mar-20 18:18
Re: One Last Try 184 Warwick 04-Mar-20 18:33
Re: One Last Try 194 Steve Clayton 04-Mar-20 19:33
Re: One Last Try 195 Warwick 04-Mar-20 19:48
Re: One Last Try 187 cladking 04-Mar-20 20:04
Re: One Last Try 190 Warwick 04-Mar-20 20:21
Re: One Last Try 198 cladking 04-Mar-20 20:57
Re: One Last Try 199 Warwick 04-Mar-20 21:38
Re: It's Spring 209 Steve Clayton 05-Mar-20 13:13
Re: One Last Try 193 Steve Clayton 04-Mar-20 22:45
Re: One Last Try 194 Thanos5150 05-Mar-20 16:36
Re: One Last Try 195 cladking 05-Mar-20 16:56
Re: One Last Try 194 cladking 04-Mar-20 19:57
Re: One Last Try 184 Steve Clayton 05-Mar-20 13:54
Re: One Last Try 197 cladking 05-Mar-20 15:00
Re: an observation 202 Steve Clayton 03-Mar-20 00:36
Re: Addendum 201 SandyJesse 05-Mar-20 23:11
Re: Addendum 179 Steve Clayton 06-Mar-20 16:01
Re: Addendum 188 SandyJesse 07-Mar-20 23:16
Re: A Study in Ramps 222 cladking 01-Mar-20 22:58
Re: A Study in Ramps 213 Steve Clayton 02-Mar-20 03:31
Re: A Study in Ramps 190 cladking 02-Mar-20 18:47
Point of Order 192 Warwick 02-Mar-20 19:00
Re: Point of Order 190 cladking 02-Mar-20 20:05
Re: Point of Order 193 Warwick 02-Mar-20 23:43
Re: Point of Order 189 cladking 03-Mar-20 02:20
Re: Point of Order 194 Warwick 03-Mar-20 04:32
Re: Point of Order 185 cladking 03-Mar-20 14:40
Re: Point of Order 179 Open mind 03-Mar-20 15:14
Re: Point of Order 188 Warwick 03-Mar-20 18:37
Re: Point of Order 184 Open mind 03-Mar-20 19:14
Re: Point of Order - O/T, sort of 190 Warwick 03-Mar-20 19:52
Re: Point of Order 211 Steve Clayton 03-Mar-20 00:09
Re: Point of Order 197 thinkitover 03-Mar-20 05:27
Re: Point of Order 187 cladking 03-Mar-20 14:24
Re: Point of Order 191 Steve Clayton 03-Mar-20 19:44
Re: Point of Order 183 cladking 03-Mar-20 20:59
Re: Point of Order 189 Steve Clayton 03-Mar-20 23:34
Re: Point of Order 203 cladking 04-Mar-20 01:10
Re: Point of Order 225 Thanos5150 04-Mar-20 02:03
Re: Point of Order 193 engbren 04-Mar-20 12:46
Saw Palace Context Sign is pr wr. 213 Manu 04-Mar-20 13:12
Re: Point of Order 206 cladking 04-Mar-20 14:45
Re: Point of Order 206 Manu 04-Mar-20 14:49
Re: Point of Order 199 cladking 04-Mar-20 17:18
Re: Point of Order 192 Manu 04-Mar-20 17:36
Re: Point of Order 192 cladking 04-Mar-20 18:10
Re: Point of Order 199 cladking 07-Mar-20 21:05
Re: Point of Order 187 Steve Clayton 06-Mar-20 19:57
Re: Point of Order 181 cladking 04-Mar-20 17:15
Re: Point of Order 180 Steve Clayton 04-Mar-20 18:29
Re: Point of Order 174 cladking 04-Mar-20 18:44
Re: Point of Order 211 cladking 04-Mar-20 15:44
Re: Point of Order 211 Thanos5150 04-Mar-20 16:23
Re: Point of Order 199 cladking 04-Mar-20 16:43
Re: Point of Order 187 Thanos5150 04-Mar-20 17:38
Re: Point of Order 183 Warwick 04-Mar-20 17:46
Re: Point of Order 188 cladking 04-Mar-20 20:47
Burn all the books!!! 172 Warwick 05-Mar-20 17:46
Re: Rewrite all the books!!! 204 cladking 05-Mar-20 18:02
Re: Rewrite all the books!!! 172 Warwick 05-Mar-20 18:14
...Then We might as well just Chuck the Books. 188 cladking 05-Mar-20 18:53
Re: ...Then We might as well just Chuck the Books. 180 Warwick 05-Mar-20 20:11
Re: ...Then We might as well just Chuck the Books. 192 cladking 05-Mar-20 21:02
Re: ...Then We might as well just Chuck the Books. 189 Warwick 05-Mar-20 21:42
Re: Point of Order 190 Steve Clayton 04-Mar-20 17:58
Re: Point of Order 184 cladking 04-Mar-20 18:48
Re: Point of Order 181 Steve Clayton 06-Mar-20 16:34
Re: Point of Order 192 cladking 06-Mar-20 19:31
Re: Point of Order 181 Steve Clayton 07-Mar-20 00:47
Re: Point of Order 181 cladking 07-Mar-20 01:24
Re: Point of Order 189 Steve Clayton 07-Mar-20 17:40
Re: Point of Order 171 cladking 07-Mar-20 20:52
Re: Point of Order 193 Manu 06-Mar-20 20:31
Re: Point of Order 186 cladking 06-Mar-20 20:47
ST3W 196 Manu 06-Mar-20 21:16
Re: Point of Order 185 cladking 06-Mar-20 21:18
Ra-st3w 207 Manu 06-Mar-20 21:33
Re: Ra-st3w 196 cladking 06-Mar-20 23:08
Re: Ra-st3w 198 cladking 06-Mar-20 23:23
Re: Ra-st3w 184 cladking 09-Mar-20 03:18
Re: Point of Order 180 Steve Clayton 07-Mar-20 01:21
Re: Point of Order 187 Manu 08-Mar-20 17:24
Re: Point of Order 178 Steve Clayton 08-Mar-20 19:07
Re: Point of Order 165 Warwick 08-Mar-20 19:21
Re: Point of Order 177 cladking 08-Mar-20 21:13
Re: Point of Order 159 Steve Clayton 08-Mar-20 22:01
Re: Point of Order 183 cladking 08-Mar-20 23:12
Re: Point of Order 161 Steve Clayton 09-Mar-20 15:38
Re: Point of Order 158 cladking 09-Mar-20 17:49
Re: Point of Order 156 Steve Clayton 09-Mar-20 20:25
Re: Point of Order 178 Warwick 09-Mar-20 20:48
Re: Point of Order 176 Steve Clayton 09-Mar-20 23:12
Re: Point of Order 170 Warwick 10-Mar-20 17:01
Re: Point of Order 164 Steve Clayton 10-Mar-20 20:41
Obvious to all?? 161 Warwick 11-Mar-20 17:10
after all 161 Warwick 11-Mar-20 17:14
Re: Obvious to all?? 151 cladking 11-Mar-20 18:12
Re: Obvious to all?? 180 Warwick 11-Mar-20 18:19
Khafre Causeway-Logistics before Religion? 173 Manu 08-Mar-20 19:28
think conduit 162 Warwick 08-Mar-20 19:57
further reading 156 Warwick 08-Mar-20 20:00
Re: Khafre Causeway-Logistics before Religion? 166 Steve Clayton 08-Mar-20 20:12
Re: Point of Order 177 cladking 08-Mar-20 14:32
Re: Point of Order 180 Manu 08-Mar-20 15:01
Re: Point of Order 171 cladking 08-Mar-20 15:44
Re: Point of Order 171 Manu 08-Mar-20 16:03
Re: Point of Order 160 cladking 08-Mar-20 23:21
Re: Point of Order 177 Thanos5150 08-Mar-20 16:05
Re: Point of Order 163 Warwick 08-Mar-20 19:28
Re: Point of Order 165 cladking 08-Mar-20 21:25
Re: Point of Order 191 Steve Clayton 08-Mar-20 20:49
Re: Point of Order 163 Warwick 08-Mar-20 20:59
Re: Point of Order 175 Steve Clayton 08-Mar-20 22:08
Re: Point of Order 170 cladking 08-Mar-20 23:16
Re: Point of Order 167 Warwick 09-Mar-20 17:39
Re: Point of Order 169 cladking 08-Mar-20 21:05
Re: Point of Order 184 Steve Clayton 03-Mar-20 16:44
Re: Point of Order 164 cladking 03-Mar-20 21:03
Re: Point of Order 165 Steve Clayton 04-Mar-20 17:40
Re: Point of Order 162 cladking 04-Mar-20 19:09
Re: Point of Order 159 Steve Clayton 05-Mar-20 17:03
Re: Point of Order 159 cladking 05-Mar-20 17:52
A stupid question 175 Warwick 05-Mar-20 17:55
Re: A stupid question 164 cladking 05-Mar-20 18:47
Re: A stupid question 176 Steve Clayton 06-Mar-20 17:49
Re: A stupid question 174 Warwick 07-Mar-20 19:14
Re: A stupid question 169 Steve Clayton 07-Mar-20 23:09
Re: A stupid question 155 Warwick 08-Mar-20 18:41
Re: Point of Order 183 Open mind 03-Mar-20 15:26
Re: Point of Order 172 cladking 03-Mar-20 21:07
Re: A Study in Ramps 173 Steve Clayton 03-Mar-20 17:29
Re: A Study in Ramps 181 cladking 03-Mar-20 21:11
Re: A Study in Ramps 171 Steve Clayton 07-Mar-20 18:12
Re: A Study in Ramps 192 Thanos5150 03-Mar-20 16:10
Re: A Study in Ramps 194 Steve Clayton 03-Mar-20 16:57
Re: A Study in Ramps 184 Warwick 03-Mar-20 19:57
Re: A Study in Ramps 180 cladking 03-Mar-20 21:21
Sam Briefly changes Feet 177 Warwick 04-Mar-20 17:27
Re: Sam Briefly changes Feet 168 cladking 04-Mar-20 17:49
Re: Sam Briefly changes Feet 169 Warwick 04-Mar-20 18:12
Rollers and Rope 184 Steve Clayton 04-Mar-20 16:41
Re: Rollers and Rope 160 Open mind 04-Mar-20 16:53
Re: Rollers and Rope 172 Steve Clayton 04-Mar-20 22:22
Re: Rollers and Rope 176 Open mind 05-Mar-20 01:25
Re: Rollers and Rope 162 Steve Clayton 05-Mar-20 15:34
Re: Rollers and Rope 179 Open mind 05-Mar-20 16:08
Re: Rollers and Rope 168 cladking 05-Mar-20 16:32
Re: Rollers and Rope 165 Open mind 05-Mar-20 18:26
Re: Rollers and Rope 166 Open mind 05-Mar-20 18:40
Re: Rollers and Rope 165 cladking 05-Mar-20 21:13
Re: Rollers and Rope 160 Steve Clayton 06-Mar-20 16:14
Re: Rollers and Rope 180 Steve Clayton 06-Mar-20 02:11
Re: Rollers and Rope 187 cladking 06-Mar-20 15:09
Re: Rollers and Rope 168 Open mind 07-Mar-20 01:35
Re: Rollers and Rope 176 cladking 04-Mar-20 17:37
Re: Rollers and Rope 163 Open mind 04-Mar-20 19:18
Re: Rollers and Rope 180 cladking 04-Mar-20 19:30
Re: Rollers and Rope 171 Open mind 04-Mar-20 21:29
Re: Rollers and Rope 182 Warwick 04-Mar-20 21:35
Re: Rollers and Rope 171 Open mind 04-Mar-20 22:24
Re: Rollers and Rope 176 cladking 04-Mar-20 22:31
Re: Rollers and Rope 178 cladking 04-Mar-20 22:35
Re: Rollers and Rope 178 Steve Clayton 08-Mar-20 01:03
Re: Rollers and Rope 159 Warwick 08-Mar-20 18:46
Re: Rollers and Rope 173 Steve Clayton 08-Mar-20 21:34
Re: Rollers and Rope 182 Thanos5150 09-Mar-20 00:59
Re: Rollers and Rope 175 Steve Clayton 09-Mar-20 14:15
Re: Rollers and Rope 165 Warwick 09-Mar-20 17:53
Re: Rollers and Rope 164 Open mind 09-Mar-20 18:10
Re: Rollers and Rope 163 Warwick 09-Mar-20 18:27
Re: Rollers and Rope 185 Steve Clayton 08-Mar-20 01:55
Re: Rollers and Rope 174 cladking 04-Mar-20 22:23
Re: Rollers and Rope 173 Open mind 04-Mar-20 22:30
Re: Rollers and Rope 168 cladking 04-Mar-20 22:50
Re: Rollers and Rope 174 Steve Clayton 04-Mar-20 23:06
Re: Rollers and Rope 169 cladking 05-Mar-20 01:01
Re: Rollers and Rope 175 Open mind 05-Mar-20 01:10
Re: Rollers and Rope 170 Steve Clayton 05-Mar-20 00:10
Re: Rollers and Rope 170 Open mind 05-Mar-20 00:52
Re: Rollers and Rope 177 Steve Clayton 05-Mar-20 16:04
Re: Rollers and Rope 167 Open mind 05-Mar-20 18:13
Re: Rollers and Rope 173 Steve Clayton 05-Mar-20 19:10
Khufu Quarry Ramp, G1-X and T.P.'s 200 Manu 08-Mar-20 22:32
Re: Khufu Quarry Ramp, G1-X and T.P.'s 187 Steve Clayton 08-Mar-20 23:22
Re: A Study in Ramps 198 Steve Clayton 04-Apr-20 22:14
Re: A Study in Ramps 207 cladking 11-May-20 14:42
Re: A Study in Ramps 165 Steve Clayton 13-May-20 03:06
Re: A Study in Ramps 165 Hanslune 13-May-20 19:58
Re: A Study in Ramps 143 cladking 14-May-20 13:48
The reason you always refused to provide drawings of your ideas 142 Hanslune 14-May-20 21:22
Re: The reason you always refused to provide drawings of your ideas 134 cladking 15-May-20 14:34
Re: The reason you always refused to provide drawings of your ideas 137 Hanslune 15-May-20 15:25
Re: The reason you always refused to provide drawings of your ideas 152 cladking 15-May-20 17:46
...and he's off and running 174 Hanslune 16-May-20 17:12
Re: ...and he's off and running 141 Steve Clayton 18-May-20 18:56
Re: ...and he's off and running 133 Warwick 18-May-20 19:47
Re: ...and he's off and running 139 Steve Clayton 18-May-20 20:31
Re: ...and he's off and running 139 Hanslune 18-May-20 22:01
Re: ...and he's off and running 143 Steve Clayton 20-May-20 22:37
Re: ...and he's off and running 124 Warwick 21-May-20 17:28
Re: ...and he's off and running 150 cladking 18-May-20 20:58
Re: ...and he's off and running 138 Hanslune 18-May-20 22:16
Re: ...and he's off and running 135 Steve Clayton 21-May-20 00:06
Re: ...and he's off and running 137 Sirfiroth 21-May-20 16:56
Re: ...and he's off and running 128 Warwick 21-May-20 17:40
Re: ...and he's off and running 174 Sirfiroth 21-May-20 20:44
Re: ...and he's off and running 140 Warwick 22-May-20 02:53
Re: ...and he's off and running 157 Steve Clayton 27-May-20 23:04
Elementary 126 Warwick 28-May-20 16:56
Re: Elementary 129 cladking 28-May-20 20:36
Re: Elementary 124 Warwick 28-May-20 20:51
Walk Like an Egypt(ologist). 146 cladking 29-May-20 13:48
just saw this 124 Warwick 04-Jun-20 20:02
Re: just saw this 117 cladking 04-Jun-20 20:15
Re: Elementary 137 Steve Clayton 28-May-20 21:59
Re: Elementary 126 cladking 29-May-20 13:41
Re: Elementary 137 Steve Clayton 30-May-20 14:14
Re: Elementary 122 cladking 31-May-20 13:37
Re: Elementary 142 Steve Clayton 31-May-20 20:03
Re: Elementary 128 cladking 31-May-20 21:55
Our History is Writ in the Rainbow. 117 cladking 01-Jun-20 14:32
still avoiding the POINT 115 Warwick 01-Jun-20 18:46
Re: still avoiding the POINT 130 cladking 01-Jun-20 21:19
It was the BORG 112 Warwick 02-Jun-20 19:02
Reality Itself was Anthropomorphized 140 cladking 03-Jun-20 01:10
Re: Reality Itself was Anthropomorphized 119 Warwick 03-Jun-20 17:35
Re: Reality Itself was Anthropomorphized 129 cladking 03-Jun-20 19:11
Can We Get Back to Chasing Rainbows? :-) 119 thinkitover 04-Jun-20 08:41
Re: Can We Get Back to Chasing Rainbows? :-) 117 cladking 04-Jun-20 13:38
Re: Can We Get Back to Chasing Rainbows? :-) 105 Warwick 04-Jun-20 17:28
Re: Can We Get Back to Chasing Rainbows? :-) 116 cladking 04-Jun-20 20:37
Re: Can We Get Back to Chasing Rainbows? :-) 116 Warwick 04-Jun-20 21:24
Re: Can We Get Back to Chasing Rainbows? :-) 128 cladking 04-Jun-20 21:48
Re: still avoiding the POINT 131 Steve Clayton 02-Jun-20 16:37
Re: still avoiding the POINT 126 cladking 02-Jun-20 18:45
Re: still avoiding the POINT 106 Warwick 02-Jun-20 18:55
Re: still avoiding the POINT 126 Steve Clayton 02-Jun-20 20:42
Re: still avoiding the POINT 106 Warwick 02-Jun-20 21:11
Re: still avoiding the POINT 130 Steve Clayton 02-Jun-20 23:05
Doing your work for you 123 Warwick 03-Jun-20 17:56
Re: Doing your work for you 130 Steve Clayton 04-Jun-20 02:12
Re: Doing your work for you 106 Warwick 04-Jun-20 18:03
Re: Doing your work for you 126 Steve Clayton 07-Jun-20 22:14
Re: Doing your work for you 130 Warwick 08-Jun-20 19:47
Re: still avoiding the POINT 150 SandyJesse 13-Jun-20 23:15
Re: still avoiding the POINT 156 Steve Clayton 14-Jun-20 23:19
Re: still avoiding the POINT 178 SandyJesse 18-Jun-20 22:49
Help!!!! 135 Warwick 21-May-20 17:33
Good luck Steve 135 Hanslune 18-May-20 21:55
Re: A Study in Ramps 155 cladking 14-May-20 13:57
Key words run through a database isn't research Cladking 138 Hanslune 14-May-20 21:51
Re: A Study in Ramps 199 LonelyAngel 14-May-20 16:31
Re: A Study in Ramps 145 Hanslune 14-May-20 21:56
Re: A Study in Ramps 139 Steve Clayton 18-May-20 21:53
Re: A Study in Ramps 139 Hanslune 18-May-20 22:20
Re: A Study in Ramps 157 Steve Clayton 19-May-20 01:16
Re: A Study in Ramps 147 Hanslune 19-May-20 14:45
Re: A Study in Ramps 158 Steve Clayton 19-May-20 16:07
Please, leave the windmills to Sam 153 Warwick 19-May-20 18:34
Re: Please, leave the windmills to Sam 144 Steve Clayton 19-May-20 20:05
Re: Please, leave the windmills to Sam 135 Warwick 19-May-20 20:55
Re: Please, leave the windmills to Sam 157 Steve Clayton 19-May-20 21:33
Re: Please, leave the windmills to Sam 139 cladking 20-May-20 02:47
Your lack of evidence isn't a problem you can put on others - its yours 141 Hanslune 20-May-20 04:58
Egyptology's Cultural Context 145 cladking 20-May-20 13:53
Ramp theory vs Geyser powered Funicular idea 136 Hanslune 20-May-20 15:43
Re: Ramp theory vs Geyser powered Funicular idea 137 cladking 20-May-20 17:17
Re: Ramp theory vs Geyser powered Funicular idea 140 Hanslune 22-May-20 17:02
Re: Ramp theory vs Geyser powered Funicular idea 141 Warwick 24-May-20 18:13
Re: Ramp theory vs Geyser powered Funicular idea 141 cladking 24-May-20 19:18
In normal conversation... 137 Warwick 24-May-20 19:52
Re: In normal conversation... 167 cladking 25-May-20 01:06
Another final word (waste of time) 159 Warwick 25-May-20 17:52
Re: Another final word (waste of time) 122 Hanslune 26-May-20 14:59
Re: Another final word (waste of time) 146 cladking 26-May-20 15:11
Re: Ramp theory vs Geyser powered Funicular idea 151 Steve Clayton 30-May-20 15:27
Long Live Ramps! 118 cladking 31-May-20 14:05
Re: Egyptology's Cultural Context 127 Warwick 20-May-20 18:05
Re: Egyptology's Cultural Context 146 cladking 20-May-20 20:37
Re: Egyptology's Cultural Context 122 Warwick 20-May-20 21:55
Re: Egyptology's Cultural Context 143 cladking 21-May-20 01:01
Re: Egyptology's Cultural Context 128 Warwick 21-May-20 17:17
Re: Please, leave the windmills to Sam 134 Warwick 20-May-20 18:03
REALITY CHECK 157 Warwick 20-May-20 18:02
Re: REALITY CHECK 141 Steve Clayton 20-May-20 20:28
Re: REALITY CHECK 137 Warwick 20-May-20 22:04
Re: REALITY CHECK 137 Steve Clayton 20-May-20 23:53
Re: REALITY CHECK 126 Warwick 21-May-20 17:12
My boy Luke can eat 50 eggs. n/t 139 cladking 21-May-20 01:08
Re: A Study in Ramps 144 Hanslune 20-May-20 04:53
The trouble is.. 133 Warwick 20-May-20 18:09
Re: The trouble is.. 149 Steve Clayton 20-May-20 20:15
Re: The trouble is.. 129 Warwick 20-May-20 22:16
Re: A Study in Ramps 146 Steve Clayton 20-May-20 19:13
Re: A Study in Ramps 130 Warwick 20-May-20 22:20
Re: A Study in Ramps 141 Steve Clayton 20-May-20 22:46
Re: A Study in Ramps 151 SandyJesse 21-May-20 00:08
Re: A Study in Ramps 147 Steve Clayton 21-May-20 03:19
Re: A Study in Ramps 152 SandyJesse 21-May-20 04:17
Re: A Study in Ramps 150 Steve Clayton 21-May-20 14:19
Re: A Study in Ramps 140 cladking 21-May-20 14:37
Re: A Study in Ramps 142 cladking 21-May-20 14:53
Re: A Study in Ramps 161 Steve Clayton 21-May-20 15:38
there's the windmill 140 Warwick 21-May-20 17:05
Re: there's the windmill 144 cladking 22-May-20 13:24
Re: there's the windmill 133 Warwick 25-May-20 17:39
Re: there's the windmill 127 cladking 30-May-20 14:11
Re: A Study in Ramps 146 Hanslune 22-May-20 17:39
Re: A Study in Ramps 143 SandyJesse 21-May-20 15:47
Re: A Study in Ramps 158 Steve Clayton 21-May-20 16:09
Re: A Study in Ramps 146 Warwick 21-May-20 16:46
Re: A Study in Ramps 151 Warwick 21-May-20 17:44
Re: A Study in Ramps 133 Warwick 21-May-20 16:57
Re: A Study in Ramps 132 Warwick 21-May-20 16:40
Re: A Study in Ramps 144 Warwick 21-May-20 16:39
Re: A Study in Ramps 146 Hanslune 22-May-20 17:32
Re: A Study in Ramps 266 Thanos5150 23-May-20 00:00
Re: A Study in Ramps 142 Warwick 24-May-20 18:02
Re: A Study in Ramps 147 cladking 24-May-20 19:22
I've got an idea 133 Warwick 24-May-20 19:47
Re: I've got an idea 141 cladking 24-May-20 19:59
Re: I've got an idea 133 Warwick 25-May-20 17:30


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