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Hanslune Wrote:
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> LonelyAngel Wrote:
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> > I'm a bit late to the party... but this is a
> job
> > for Cladking!
>
>
> You would think that he would want to write up and
> present his information to the world.
>
> That is what almost all theorist do. Scott wrote
> up his Vyse stuff etc.
>
> Yet after 14 years Cladking has produced nothing.
> Now he did start to document his research in the
> 2009-2011 period but he found that documenting his
> stuff just provided evidence that he had no idea
> what he was talking about and stopped doing that.
>
> Anyway we hope Steve has great success in trying
> to determine just how this funicular with a geyser
> and kites would actually work - think ropes lots
> and lots of ropes and ramps for the thing to run
> on...
Hi Hanslune,
Just for the record, I do not believe in Geysers or Kits.
You are correct, lots and lots of ropes. So many, that the papyrus plants went nearly extinct.
Do some basic math, and tell me how much rope is used with two lines of men pulling stones up ramps.
Can you provide an estimate? I can, and it's much more than proceeding directly up the face of the Pyramid. Say, 60' feet per group using ramps, which stretch out nearly a mile long. Delivering 1 stone every 3 minutes. Those rope need to be returned back down to the base as well, so double your figure. 1 mile = 5280 feet. They would need 10 feet of space between each pulling group. So, I estimate 40 feet per group, with 2 rope lines 30 feet on each side (60'). So, 5,280 feet divided by 40 feet, = 132 teams, using 60 feet of rope each, = 7,920 feet of rope. X 2 (returning ropes) = 15,840 feet of required rope.
So your idea of pulling stones with ropes, uses more than twice the amount a Funicular (water counter balance system) would use. Isn't it amazing what math can do, in understanding proposed concepts. Your suggesting the Funicular would use more rope, when in fact, your stone pulling method would more than twice as much. They are still pulling stones up the Causeway, right? Add that in.
You cannot prove to me that ramps work. Where as, I can show you how using an online calculator of a double incline plain, will work for both the Causeway and be capable of pulling stones up a 52 degree angle, as long as, the COF is .5 or lower. If you have waited 14 years for Cladking, I would give up. If he has not been willing and/or able to for that amount of time, the likelihood is, he never will. I on the other hand, am happy too... What more would you like?
And, thank you for wishing me well. I just wanted to set the record straight. I have never suggested Kits, and Geysers would help, if they ever existed, up on the Giza Plateau. It is water at a higher elevation, though I have shown there would have been plenty of water, for the AE to have harvested, and/or channeled for there needs.
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> LonelyAngel Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > I'm a bit late to the party... but this is a
> job
> > for Cladking!
>
>
> You would think that he would want to write up and
> present his information to the world.
>
> That is what almost all theorist do. Scott wrote
> up his Vyse stuff etc.
>
> Yet after 14 years Cladking has produced nothing.
> Now he did start to document his research in the
> 2009-2011 period but he found that documenting his
> stuff just provided evidence that he had no idea
> what he was talking about and stopped doing that.
>
> Anyway we hope Steve has great success in trying
> to determine just how this funicular with a geyser
> and kites would actually work - think ropes lots
> and lots of ropes and ramps for the thing to run
> on...
Hi Hanslune,
Just for the record, I do not believe in Geysers or Kits.
You are correct, lots and lots of ropes. So many, that the papyrus plants went nearly extinct.
Do some basic math, and tell me how much rope is used with two lines of men pulling stones up ramps.
Can you provide an estimate? I can, and it's much more than proceeding directly up the face of the Pyramid. Say, 60' feet per group using ramps, which stretch out nearly a mile long. Delivering 1 stone every 3 minutes. Those rope need to be returned back down to the base as well, so double your figure. 1 mile = 5280 feet. They would need 10 feet of space between each pulling group. So, I estimate 40 feet per group, with 2 rope lines 30 feet on each side (60'). So, 5,280 feet divided by 40 feet, = 132 teams, using 60 feet of rope each, = 7,920 feet of rope. X 2 (returning ropes) = 15,840 feet of required rope.
So your idea of pulling stones with ropes, uses more than twice the amount a Funicular (water counter balance system) would use. Isn't it amazing what math can do, in understanding proposed concepts. Your suggesting the Funicular would use more rope, when in fact, your stone pulling method would more than twice as much. They are still pulling stones up the Causeway, right? Add that in.
You cannot prove to me that ramps work. Where as, I can show you how using an online calculator of a double incline plain, will work for both the Causeway and be capable of pulling stones up a 52 degree angle, as long as, the COF is .5 or lower. If you have waited 14 years for Cladking, I would give up. If he has not been willing and/or able to for that amount of time, the likelihood is, he never will. I on the other hand, am happy too... What more would you like?
And, thank you for wishing me well. I just wanted to set the record straight. I have never suggested Kits, and Geysers would help, if they ever existed, up on the Giza Plateau. It is water at a higher elevation, though I have shown there would have been plenty of water, for the AE to have harvested, and/or channeled for there needs.
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