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Author: Manu ()
Date: March 08, 2020 05:24PM
Steve Clayton Wrote:

>  
> These are not the kind of ramps I was bitching
> about. For all I know, they could have been
> disability ramps, leading into those structures. A
> promenade entrance? OK, they also served to help
> build the structures. There is evidence of ramps.
> Just not for G1 and G2. There was a downhill
> ramp/path reaching the backside of Kufu's Pyramid.
> They took block from what is known as the
> chocolate quarry, next to Kafreys Pyramid.
>
> Other than that, I have seen no evidence ramps
> were used in a spiral or switchback fashion.

>Steve, there is no evidence for a spiral ramp either exterior or interior, I completely agree. However, there is evidence for a ramp which led out of the Khufu quarry towards the west side of the growing pyramid. That ramp could have supported construction of the first few stone courses. The evidence for this ramp is indisputable, Steve. I think your model is very promising for what happened after this initial ramp's ability was exhausted. In fact, I think that the builders themselves came up against this very same decision. They had to decide whether to continue run a full-size ramp around to haul stones, or to run a ledge around wide enough to support another infra-structure and method along the lines of what you propose. They understood, as you have, that the human and material cost of the latter option meant the difference between success and failure to finish this monument in time for....(fill in your favorite reason).

>There is a good template for this from the First Dynasty published by Rinus Ormeling. Ormeling looked at the niched mastabas at Saqqara before the one from the reign of Horus-Den, when a stair-case to the burial chamber was first conceived. Why? Because the architect realized that your could save time by working simultaneously on the tumulus above and the apartments of the occupant below. What drove this innovation? Time pressure and the royal occupants' ever increasing desire to build ever more lavish mansions for the afterlife. This is the same general driver of what you have also picked up on here at Giza. This is a riddle of efficiency. My hunch is that course #35 is a major plot point in this story.

Manu

Hi Manu,

I agree with much here, as you have outlined. These current illustration(s) were born out of  those who do not believe "water" was employed in the construction of the Giza Pyramids. I wanted to show, even without water, it could be done. Which in turn completely negates the need for Ramps.

A few years ago, I came to the realization, that there was more to the Khafre's Causeway, than what  Egyptology proposed. They postulated it was built for a religious purpose. It may have served in that purpose, though only once the Pyramids were completed. Re purposed if you will. Why would you need two causeways, each of which is nearly 30 feet wide, for a religious ceremony. It struck me as a stretch in logic. Do we not go up and return on the same paths?

And, why is there a middle lower indentation, 5-6 feet wide? What purpose would that serve? I am mentioning all of this, because I believe the Causeway(s) are all at a 4.6 degree slope. Find me one which isn't. We spent months looking around at other Pyramids in Egypt, and they all have the same slope, 4.6 degrees. I applied that to Kufu's Causeway, and where it should end, argued it was not bent, and published that location here on GH.  Low and behold, months later an Egyptian was arrested after finding the "straight" causeway beneath his? house.  That's a fact. It was not hard to do. I simply used Google Earth, and plotted a line from his Temple, and where it would end, based on the 4.6 angle.

There are 29-30 foot walls surrounding G1 and G2. Why would they go to all that trouble? Well, Egyptologist say for a religious purpose. This is what they say, every time they have no logical answer... It had to do with their religion...

Those heavier blocks were placed using short ramps. Once they were in place,  they switched over to smaller blocks. Smaller blocks which could be lifted quicker and in larger numbers. Why drag any block, when you have in place, the ability to use water and gravity.  The same barges which carried the stone down the Nile, were constructed in such a fashion, to be waterproofed inside and out. 
 
In comes the Water Funicular. [www.youtube.com]
If you have water, polished surfaces on the the Causeway, short pieces of rope between the barges, you do not need to drag stones up any hill. Now I am a little of topic, but those walls contained water, and there is evidence of that.

I have an  abundance of drawings showing this, backed up by math, incline plains and the necessary size of each engineered barge to be used on a Funicular Causeway. It all fits like a glove. I did have a problem, attempting to use the causeway to lift the stones up the face of the Pyramids, thou that would not be required, as I have illustrated within this Topic. A Study of Ramps. I worked with Professors & Engineers to refine these ideas. Spent money, resolving these issues.

It is all feasible.



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 08-Mar-20 19:55 by Steve Clayton.

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Re: A Study in Ramps 225 Manu 01-Mar-20 18:25
Re: A Study in Ramps 214 Steve Clayton 01-Mar-20 20:08
Re: A Study in Ramps 204 Manu 02-Mar-20 02:31
Re: A Study in Ramps 186 Steve Clayton 02-Mar-20 04:54
Re: A Study in Ramps 201 Warwick 01-Mar-20 19:13
Re: A Study in Ramps 187 Steve Clayton 01-Mar-20 20:11
Addendum 185 Steve Clayton 01-Mar-20 22:51
Re: Addendum 195 Manu 02-Mar-20 02:22
Re: Addendum 179 Steve Clayton 02-Mar-20 04:56
Re: Addendum 182 Manu 02-Mar-20 11:15
an observation 186 Warwick 02-Mar-20 18:26
Re: an observation 187 cladking 02-Mar-20 18:38
Re: an observation 170 Warwick 02-Mar-20 18:45
Re: an observation 173 cladking 02-Mar-20 18:52
Point of Order 172 Warwick 02-Mar-20 18:56
Re: Point of Order 160 cladking 02-Mar-20 20:17
Re: Point of Order 172 Warwick 02-Mar-20 23:37
You Meant "Superstitious Idiots" As A Complement? 167 thinkitover 03-Mar-20 05:20
Re: You Meant "Superstitious Idiots" As A Complement? 164 Warwick 03-Mar-20 05:40
Re: You Meant "Superstitious Idiots" As A Complement? 159 cladking 03-Mar-20 14:08
Re: You Meant "Superstitious Idiots" As A Complement? 154 Warwick 03-Mar-20 18:45
Re: You Meant "Superstitious Idiots" As A Complement? 161 cladking 03-Mar-20 20:54
Re: You Meant "Superstitious Idiots" As A Complement? 129 cladking 11-May-20 14:33
Re: an observation 160 Steve Clayton 03-Mar-20 17:05
Re: an observation 155 Warwick 03-Mar-20 18:56
Re: an observation 145 cladking 03-Mar-20 20:57
Re: an observation 145 Warwick 04-Mar-20 17:49
Re: an observation 150 cladking 04-Mar-20 17:58
One Last Try 157 Warwick 04-Mar-20 18:04
20 % of 1.5 Million 153 Warwick 04-Mar-20 18:06
I forgot 153 Warwick 04-Mar-20 18:07
Re: One Last Try 153 cladking 04-Mar-20 18:18
Re: One Last Try 146 Warwick 04-Mar-20 18:33
Re: One Last Try 151 Steve Clayton 04-Mar-20 19:33
Re: One Last Try 153 Warwick 04-Mar-20 19:48
Re: One Last Try 148 cladking 04-Mar-20 20:04
Re: One Last Try 150 Warwick 04-Mar-20 20:21
Re: One Last Try 150 cladking 04-Mar-20 20:57
Re: One Last Try 152 Warwick 04-Mar-20 21:38
Re: It's Spring 151 Steve Clayton 05-Mar-20 13:13
Re: One Last Try 150 Steve Clayton 04-Mar-20 22:45
Re: One Last Try 151 Thanos5150 05-Mar-20 16:36
Re: One Last Try 150 cladking 05-Mar-20 16:56
Re: One Last Try 144 cladking 04-Mar-20 19:57
Re: One Last Try 142 Steve Clayton 05-Mar-20 13:54
Re: One Last Try 149 cladking 05-Mar-20 15:00
Re: an observation 157 Steve Clayton 03-Mar-20 00:36
Re: Addendum 160 SandyJesse 05-Mar-20 23:11
Re: Addendum 138 Steve Clayton 06-Mar-20 16:01
Re: Addendum 145 SandyJesse 07-Mar-20 23:16
Re: A Study in Ramps 181 cladking 01-Mar-20 22:58
Re: A Study in Ramps 170 Steve Clayton 02-Mar-20 03:31
Re: A Study in Ramps 148 cladking 02-Mar-20 18:47
Point of Order 154 Warwick 02-Mar-20 19:00
Re: Point of Order 147 cladking 02-Mar-20 20:05
Re: Point of Order 150 Warwick 02-Mar-20 23:43
Re: Point of Order 146 cladking 03-Mar-20 02:20
Re: Point of Order 148 Warwick 03-Mar-20 04:32
Re: Point of Order 145 cladking 03-Mar-20 14:40
Re: Point of Order 141 Open mind 03-Mar-20 15:14
Re: Point of Order 147 Warwick 03-Mar-20 18:37
Re: Point of Order 143 Open mind 03-Mar-20 19:14
Re: Point of Order - O/T, sort of 147 Warwick 03-Mar-20 19:52
Re: Point of Order 167 Steve Clayton 03-Mar-20 00:09
Re: Point of Order 151 thinkitover 03-Mar-20 05:27
Re: Point of Order 147 cladking 03-Mar-20 14:24
Re: Point of Order 150 Steve Clayton 03-Mar-20 19:44
Re: Point of Order 145 cladking 03-Mar-20 20:59
Re: Point of Order 148 Steve Clayton 03-Mar-20 23:34
Re: Point of Order 159 cladking 04-Mar-20 01:10
Re: Point of Order 183 Thanos5150 04-Mar-20 02:03
Re: Point of Order 153 engbren 04-Mar-20 12:46
Saw Palace Context Sign is pr wr. 168 Manu 04-Mar-20 13:12
Re: Point of Order 158 cladking 04-Mar-20 14:45
Re: Point of Order 165 Manu 04-Mar-20 14:49
Re: Point of Order 156 cladking 04-Mar-20 17:18
Re: Point of Order 150 Manu 04-Mar-20 17:36
Re: Point of Order 148 cladking 04-Mar-20 18:10
Re: Point of Order 153 cladking 07-Mar-20 21:05
Re: Point of Order 144 Steve Clayton 06-Mar-20 19:57
Re: Point of Order 138 cladking 04-Mar-20 17:15
Re: Point of Order 139 Steve Clayton 04-Mar-20 18:29
Re: Point of Order 134 cladking 04-Mar-20 18:44
Re: Point of Order 170 cladking 04-Mar-20 15:44
Re: Point of Order 163 Thanos5150 04-Mar-20 16:23
Re: Point of Order 156 cladking 04-Mar-20 16:43
Re: Point of Order 145 Thanos5150 04-Mar-20 17:38
Re: Point of Order 143 Warwick 04-Mar-20 17:46
Re: Point of Order 149 cladking 04-Mar-20 20:47
Burn all the books!!! 135 Warwick 05-Mar-20 17:46
Re: Rewrite all the books!!! 156 cladking 05-Mar-20 18:02
Re: Rewrite all the books!!! 134 Warwick 05-Mar-20 18:14
...Then We might as well just Chuck the Books. 143 cladking 05-Mar-20 18:53
Re: ...Then We might as well just Chuck the Books. 133 Warwick 05-Mar-20 20:11
Re: ...Then We might as well just Chuck the Books. 149 cladking 05-Mar-20 21:02
Re: ...Then We might as well just Chuck the Books. 146 Warwick 05-Mar-20 21:42
Re: Point of Order 148 Steve Clayton 04-Mar-20 17:58
Re: Point of Order 141 cladking 04-Mar-20 18:48
Re: Point of Order 138 Steve Clayton 06-Mar-20 16:34
Re: Point of Order 143 cladking 06-Mar-20 19:31
Re: Point of Order 140 Steve Clayton 07-Mar-20 00:47
Re: Point of Order 135 cladking 07-Mar-20 01:24
Re: Point of Order 146 Steve Clayton 07-Mar-20 17:40
Re: Point of Order 131 cladking 07-Mar-20 20:52
Re: Point of Order 145 Manu 06-Mar-20 20:31
Re: Point of Order 139 cladking 06-Mar-20 20:47
ST3W 148 Manu 06-Mar-20 21:16
Re: Point of Order 140 cladking 06-Mar-20 21:18
Ra-st3w 159 Manu 06-Mar-20 21:33
Re: Ra-st3w 151 cladking 06-Mar-20 23:08
Re: Ra-st3w 154 cladking 06-Mar-20 23:23
Re: Ra-st3w 140 cladking 09-Mar-20 03:18
Re: Point of Order 139 Steve Clayton 07-Mar-20 01:21
Re: Point of Order 144 Manu 08-Mar-20 17:24
Re: Point of Order 131 Steve Clayton 08-Mar-20 19:07
Re: Point of Order 129 Warwick 08-Mar-20 19:21
Re: Point of Order 136 cladking 08-Mar-20 21:13
Re: Point of Order 125 Steve Clayton 08-Mar-20 22:01
Re: Point of Order 143 cladking 08-Mar-20 23:12
Re: Point of Order 126 Steve Clayton 09-Mar-20 15:38
Re: Point of Order 121 cladking 09-Mar-20 17:49
Re: Point of Order 120 Steve Clayton 09-Mar-20 20:25
Re: Point of Order 140 Warwick 09-Mar-20 20:48
Re: Point of Order 132 Steve Clayton 09-Mar-20 23:12
Re: Point of Order 130 Warwick 10-Mar-20 17:01
Re: Point of Order 128 Steve Clayton 10-Mar-20 20:41
Obvious to all?? 124 Warwick 11-Mar-20 17:10
after all 123 Warwick 11-Mar-20 17:14
Re: Obvious to all?? 116 cladking 11-Mar-20 18:12
Re: Obvious to all?? 143 Warwick 11-Mar-20 18:19
Khafre Causeway-Logistics before Religion? 133 Manu 08-Mar-20 19:28
think conduit 121 Warwick 08-Mar-20 19:57
further reading 123 Warwick 08-Mar-20 20:00
Re: Khafre Causeway-Logistics before Religion? 126 Steve Clayton 08-Mar-20 20:12
Re: Point of Order 134 cladking 08-Mar-20 14:32
Re: Point of Order 140 Manu 08-Mar-20 15:01
Re: Point of Order 128 cladking 08-Mar-20 15:44
Re: Point of Order 135 Manu 08-Mar-20 16:03
Re: Point of Order 126 cladking 08-Mar-20 23:21
Re: Point of Order 140 Thanos5150 08-Mar-20 16:05
Re: Point of Order 127 Warwick 08-Mar-20 19:28
Re: Point of Order 131 cladking 08-Mar-20 21:25
Re: Point of Order 131 Steve Clayton 08-Mar-20 20:49
Re: Point of Order 122 Warwick 08-Mar-20 20:59
Re: Point of Order 136 Steve Clayton 08-Mar-20 22:08
Re: Point of Order 128 cladking 08-Mar-20 23:16
Re: Point of Order 130 Warwick 09-Mar-20 17:39
Re: Point of Order 131 cladking 08-Mar-20 21:05
Re: Point of Order 143 Steve Clayton 03-Mar-20 16:44
Re: Point of Order 126 cladking 03-Mar-20 21:03
Re: Point of Order 124 Steve Clayton 04-Mar-20 17:40
Re: Point of Order 125 cladking 04-Mar-20 19:09
Re: Point of Order 123 Steve Clayton 05-Mar-20 17:03
Re: Point of Order 124 cladking 05-Mar-20 17:52
A stupid question 140 Warwick 05-Mar-20 17:55
Re: A stupid question 127 cladking 05-Mar-20 18:47
Re: A stupid question 138 Steve Clayton 06-Mar-20 17:49
Re: A stupid question 134 Warwick 07-Mar-20 19:14
Re: A stupid question 132 Steve Clayton 07-Mar-20 23:09
Re: A stupid question 119 Warwick 08-Mar-20 18:41
Re: Point of Order 142 Open mind 03-Mar-20 15:26
Re: Point of Order 131 cladking 03-Mar-20 21:07
Re: A Study in Ramps 137 Steve Clayton 03-Mar-20 17:29
Re: A Study in Ramps 137 cladking 03-Mar-20 21:11
Re: A Study in Ramps 128 Steve Clayton 07-Mar-20 18:12
Re: A Study in Ramps 156 Thanos5150 03-Mar-20 16:10
Re: A Study in Ramps 153 Steve Clayton 03-Mar-20 16:57
Re: A Study in Ramps 145 Warwick 03-Mar-20 19:57
Re: A Study in Ramps 146 cladking 03-Mar-20 21:21
Sam Briefly changes Feet 134 Warwick 04-Mar-20 17:27
Re: Sam Briefly changes Feet 130 cladking 04-Mar-20 17:49
Re: Sam Briefly changes Feet 135 Warwick 04-Mar-20 18:12
Rollers and Rope 149 Steve Clayton 04-Mar-20 16:41
Re: Rollers and Rope 125 Open mind 04-Mar-20 16:53
Re: Rollers and Rope 135 Steve Clayton 04-Mar-20 22:22
Re: Rollers and Rope 138 Open mind 05-Mar-20 01:25
Re: Rollers and Rope 126 Steve Clayton 05-Mar-20 15:34
Re: Rollers and Rope 135 Open mind 05-Mar-20 16:08
Re: Rollers and Rope 130 cladking 05-Mar-20 16:32
Re: Rollers and Rope 130 Open mind 05-Mar-20 18:26
Re: Rollers and Rope 131 Open mind 05-Mar-20 18:40
Re: Rollers and Rope 132 cladking 05-Mar-20 21:13
Re: Rollers and Rope 118 Steve Clayton 06-Mar-20 16:14
Re: Rollers and Rope 143 Steve Clayton 06-Mar-20 02:11
Re: Rollers and Rope 151 cladking 06-Mar-20 15:09
Re: Rollers and Rope 132 Open mind 07-Mar-20 01:35
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Re: Rollers and Rope 130 Open mind 04-Mar-20 19:18
Re: Rollers and Rope 140 cladking 04-Mar-20 19:30
Re: Rollers and Rope 129 Open mind 04-Mar-20 21:29
Re: Rollers and Rope 139 Warwick 04-Mar-20 21:35
Re: Rollers and Rope 128 Open mind 04-Mar-20 22:24
Re: Rollers and Rope 134 cladking 04-Mar-20 22:31
Re: Rollers and Rope 137 cladking 04-Mar-20 22:35
Re: Rollers and Rope 142 Steve Clayton 08-Mar-20 01:03
Re: Rollers and Rope 127 Warwick 08-Mar-20 18:46
Re: Rollers and Rope 133 Steve Clayton 08-Mar-20 21:34
Re: Rollers and Rope 142 Thanos5150 09-Mar-20 00:59
Re: Rollers and Rope 141 Steve Clayton 09-Mar-20 14:15
Re: Rollers and Rope 127 Warwick 09-Mar-20 17:53
Re: Rollers and Rope 126 Open mind 09-Mar-20 18:10
Re: Rollers and Rope 130 Warwick 09-Mar-20 18:27
Re: Rollers and Rope 132 Steve Clayton 08-Mar-20 01:55
Re: Rollers and Rope 134 cladking 04-Mar-20 22:23
Re: Rollers and Rope 133 Open mind 04-Mar-20 22:30
Re: Rollers and Rope 130 cladking 04-Mar-20 22:50
Re: Rollers and Rope 137 Steve Clayton 04-Mar-20 23:06
Re: Rollers and Rope 134 cladking 05-Mar-20 01:01
Re: Rollers and Rope 134 Open mind 05-Mar-20 01:10
Re: Rollers and Rope 132 Steve Clayton 05-Mar-20 00:10
Re: Rollers and Rope 135 Open mind 05-Mar-20 00:52
Re: Rollers and Rope 136 Steve Clayton 05-Mar-20 16:04
Re: Rollers and Rope 128 Open mind 05-Mar-20 18:13
Re: Rollers and Rope 133 Steve Clayton 05-Mar-20 19:10
Khufu Quarry Ramp, G1-X and T.P.'s 161 Manu 08-Mar-20 22:32
Re: Khufu Quarry Ramp, G1-X and T.P.'s 142 Steve Clayton 08-Mar-20 23:22
Re: A Study in Ramps 157 Steve Clayton 04-Apr-20 22:14
Re: A Study in Ramps 158 cladking 11-May-20 14:42
Re: A Study in Ramps 129 Steve Clayton 13-May-20 03:06
Re: A Study in Ramps 114 Hanslune 13-May-20 19:58
Re: A Study in Ramps 108 cladking 14-May-20 13:48
The reason you always refused to provide drawings of your ideas 106 Hanslune 14-May-20 21:22
Re: The reason you always refused to provide drawings of your ideas 100 cladking 15-May-20 14:34
Re: The reason you always refused to provide drawings of your ideas 106 Hanslune 15-May-20 15:25
Re: The reason you always refused to provide drawings of your ideas 115 cladking 15-May-20 17:46
...and he's off and running 134 Hanslune 16-May-20 17:12
Re: ...and he's off and running 105 Steve Clayton 18-May-20 18:56
Re: ...and he's off and running 98 Warwick 18-May-20 19:47
Re: ...and he's off and running 102 Steve Clayton 18-May-20 20:31
Re: ...and he's off and running 104 Hanslune 18-May-20 22:01
Re: ...and he's off and running 102 Steve Clayton 20-May-20 22:37
Re: ...and he's off and running 88 Warwick 21-May-20 17:28
Re: ...and he's off and running 107 cladking 18-May-20 20:58
Re: ...and he's off and running 99 Hanslune 18-May-20 22:16
Re: ...and he's off and running 96 Steve Clayton 21-May-20 00:06
Re: ...and he's off and running 99 Sirfiroth 21-May-20 16:56
Re: ...and he's off and running 90 Warwick 21-May-20 17:40
Re: ...and he's off and running 133 Sirfiroth 21-May-20 20:44
Re: ...and he's off and running 103 Warwick 22-May-20 02:53
Re: ...and he's off and running 118 Steve Clayton 27-May-20 23:04
Elementary 86 Warwick 28-May-20 16:56
Re: Elementary 92 cladking 28-May-20 20:36
Re: Elementary 88 Warwick 28-May-20 20:51
Walk Like an Egypt(ologist). 107 cladking 29-May-20 13:48
just saw this 84 Warwick 04-Jun-20 20:02
Re: just saw this 82 cladking 04-Jun-20 20:15
Re: Elementary 102 Steve Clayton 28-May-20 21:59
Re: Elementary 90 cladking 29-May-20 13:41
Re: Elementary 101 Steve Clayton 30-May-20 14:14
Re: Elementary 87 cladking 31-May-20 13:37
Re: Elementary 101 Steve Clayton 31-May-20 20:03
Re: Elementary 94 cladking 31-May-20 21:55
Our History is Writ in the Rainbow. 81 cladking 01-Jun-20 14:32
still avoiding the POINT 85 Warwick 01-Jun-20 18:46
Re: still avoiding the POINT 93 cladking 01-Jun-20 21:19
It was the BORG 77 Warwick 02-Jun-20 19:02
Reality Itself was Anthropomorphized 102 cladking 03-Jun-20 01:10
Re: Reality Itself was Anthropomorphized 80 Warwick 03-Jun-20 17:35
Re: Reality Itself was Anthropomorphized 91 cladking 03-Jun-20 19:11
Can We Get Back to Chasing Rainbows? :-) 83 thinkitover 04-Jun-20 08:41
Re: Can We Get Back to Chasing Rainbows? :-) 80 cladking 04-Jun-20 13:38
Re: Can We Get Back to Chasing Rainbows? :-) 72 Warwick 04-Jun-20 17:28
Re: Can We Get Back to Chasing Rainbows? :-) 81 cladking 04-Jun-20 20:37
Re: Can We Get Back to Chasing Rainbows? :-) 78 Warwick 04-Jun-20 21:24
Re: Can We Get Back to Chasing Rainbows? :-) 87 cladking 04-Jun-20 21:48
Re: still avoiding the POINT 94 Steve Clayton 02-Jun-20 16:37
Re: still avoiding the POINT 82 cladking 02-Jun-20 18:45
Re: still avoiding the POINT 74 Warwick 02-Jun-20 18:55
Re: still avoiding the POINT 85 Steve Clayton 02-Jun-20 20:42
Re: still avoiding the POINT 76 Warwick 02-Jun-20 21:11
Re: still avoiding the POINT 93 Steve Clayton 02-Jun-20 23:05
Doing your work for you 83 Warwick 03-Jun-20 17:56
Re: Doing your work for you 92 Steve Clayton 04-Jun-20 02:12
Re: Doing your work for you 74 Warwick 04-Jun-20 18:03
Re: Doing your work for you 91 Steve Clayton 07-Jun-20 22:14
Re: Doing your work for you 92 Warwick 08-Jun-20 19:47
Re: still avoiding the POINT 103 SandyJesse 13-Jun-20 23:15
Re: still avoiding the POINT 114 Steve Clayton 14-Jun-20 23:19
Re: still avoiding the POINT 131 SandyJesse 18-Jun-20 22:49
Help!!!! 100 Warwick 21-May-20 17:33
Good luck Steve 101 Hanslune 18-May-20 21:55
Re: A Study in Ramps 116 cladking 14-May-20 13:57
Key words run through a database isn't research Cladking 100 Hanslune 14-May-20 21:51
Re: A Study in Ramps 143 LonelyAngel 14-May-20 16:31
Re: A Study in Ramps 111 Hanslune 14-May-20 21:56
Re: A Study in Ramps 99 Steve Clayton 18-May-20 21:53
Re: A Study in Ramps 104 Hanslune 18-May-20 22:20
Re: A Study in Ramps 121 Steve Clayton 19-May-20 01:16
Re: A Study in Ramps 111 Hanslune 19-May-20 14:45
Re: A Study in Ramps 117 Steve Clayton 19-May-20 16:07
Please, leave the windmills to Sam 106 Warwick 19-May-20 18:34
Re: Please, leave the windmills to Sam 110 Steve Clayton 19-May-20 20:05
Re: Please, leave the windmills to Sam 96 Warwick 19-May-20 20:55
Re: Please, leave the windmills to Sam 119 Steve Clayton 19-May-20 21:33
Re: Please, leave the windmills to Sam 101 cladking 20-May-20 02:47
Your lack of evidence isn't a problem you can put on others - its yours 105 Hanslune 20-May-20 04:58
Egyptology's Cultural Context 103 cladking 20-May-20 13:53
Ramp theory vs Geyser powered Funicular idea 102 Hanslune 20-May-20 15:43
Re: Ramp theory vs Geyser powered Funicular idea 98 cladking 20-May-20 17:17
Re: Ramp theory vs Geyser powered Funicular idea 98 Hanslune 22-May-20 17:02
Re: Ramp theory vs Geyser powered Funicular idea 105 Warwick 24-May-20 18:13
Re: Ramp theory vs Geyser powered Funicular idea 101 cladking 24-May-20 19:18
In normal conversation... 102 Warwick 24-May-20 19:52
Re: In normal conversation... 126 cladking 25-May-20 01:06
Another final word (waste of time) 122 Warwick 25-May-20 17:52
Re: Another final word (waste of time) 87 Hanslune 26-May-20 14:59
Re: Another final word (waste of time) 110 cladking 26-May-20 15:11
Re: Ramp theory vs Geyser powered Funicular idea 113 Steve Clayton 30-May-20 15:27
Long Live Ramps! 84 cladking 31-May-20 14:05
Re: Egyptology's Cultural Context 89 Warwick 20-May-20 18:05
Re: Egyptology's Cultural Context 105 cladking 20-May-20 20:37
Re: Egyptology's Cultural Context 89 Warwick 20-May-20 21:55
Re: Egyptology's Cultural Context 104 cladking 21-May-20 01:01
Re: Egyptology's Cultural Context 94 Warwick 21-May-20 17:17
Re: Please, leave the windmills to Sam 91 Warwick 20-May-20 18:03
REALITY CHECK 113 Warwick 20-May-20 18:02
Re: REALITY CHECK 101 Steve Clayton 20-May-20 20:28
Re: REALITY CHECK 96 Warwick 20-May-20 22:04
Re: REALITY CHECK 102 Steve Clayton 20-May-20 23:53
Re: REALITY CHECK 91 Warwick 21-May-20 17:12
My boy Luke can eat 50 eggs. n/t 101 cladking 21-May-20 01:08
Re: A Study in Ramps 108 Hanslune 20-May-20 04:53
The trouble is.. 96 Warwick 20-May-20 18:09
Re: The trouble is.. 109 Steve Clayton 20-May-20 20:15
Re: The trouble is.. 92 Warwick 20-May-20 22:16
Re: A Study in Ramps 109 Steve Clayton 20-May-20 19:13
Re: A Study in Ramps 95 Warwick 20-May-20 22:20
Re: A Study in Ramps 106 Steve Clayton 20-May-20 22:46
Re: A Study in Ramps 112 SandyJesse 21-May-20 00:08
Re: A Study in Ramps 110 Steve Clayton 21-May-20 03:19
Re: A Study in Ramps 113 SandyJesse 21-May-20 04:17
Re: A Study in Ramps 109 Steve Clayton 21-May-20 14:19
Re: A Study in Ramps 103 cladking 21-May-20 14:37
Re: A Study in Ramps 100 cladking 21-May-20 14:53
Re: A Study in Ramps 122 Steve Clayton 21-May-20 15:38
there's the windmill 105 Warwick 21-May-20 17:05
Re: there's the windmill 106 cladking 22-May-20 13:24
Re: there's the windmill 94 Warwick 25-May-20 17:39
Re: there's the windmill 88 cladking 30-May-20 14:11
Re: A Study in Ramps 108 Hanslune 22-May-20 17:39
Re: A Study in Ramps 106 SandyJesse 21-May-20 15:47
Re: A Study in Ramps 120 Steve Clayton 21-May-20 16:09
Re: A Study in Ramps 104 Warwick 21-May-20 16:46
Re: A Study in Ramps 109 Warwick 21-May-20 17:44
Re: A Study in Ramps 98 Warwick 21-May-20 16:57
Re: A Study in Ramps 94 Warwick 21-May-20 16:40
Re: A Study in Ramps 102 Warwick 21-May-20 16:39
Re: A Study in Ramps 109 Hanslune 22-May-20 17:32
Re: A Study in Ramps 182 Thanos5150 23-May-20 00:00
Re: A Study in Ramps 106 Warwick 24-May-20 18:02
Re: A Study in Ramps 109 cladking 24-May-20 19:22
I've got an idea 100 Warwick 24-May-20 19:47
Re: I've got an idea 103 cladking 24-May-20 19:59
Re: I've got an idea 95 Warwick 25-May-20 17:30


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