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Author: Manu ()
Date: March 08, 2020 05:24PM
Steve Clayton Wrote:

>  
> These are not the kind of ramps I was bitching
> about. For all I know, they could have been
> disability ramps, leading into those structures. A
> promenade entrance? OK, they also served to help
> build the structures. There is evidence of ramps.
> Just not for G1 and G2. There was a downhill
> ramp/path reaching the backside of Kufu's Pyramid.
> They took block from what is known as the
> chocolate quarry, next to Kafreys Pyramid.
>
> Other than that, I have seen no evidence ramps
> were used in a spiral or switchback fashion.

>Steve, there is no evidence for a spiral ramp either exterior or interior, I completely agree. However, there is evidence for a ramp which led out of the Khufu quarry towards the west side of the growing pyramid. That ramp could have supported construction of the first few stone courses. The evidence for this ramp is indisputable, Steve. I think your model is very promising for what happened after this initial ramp's ability was exhausted. In fact, I think that the builders themselves came up against this very same decision. They had to decide whether to continue run a full-size ramp around to haul stones, or to run a ledge around wide enough to support another infra-structure and method along the lines of what you propose. They understood, as you have, that the human and material cost of the latter option meant the difference between success and failure to finish this monument in time for....(fill in your favorite reason).

>There is a good template for this from the First Dynasty published by Rinus Ormeling. Ormeling looked at the niched mastabas at Saqqara before the one from the reign of Horus-Den, when a stair-case to the burial chamber was first conceived. Why? Because the architect realized that your could save time by working simultaneously on the tumulus above and the apartments of the occupant below. What drove this innovation? Time pressure and the royal occupants' ever increasing desire to build ever more lavish mansions for the afterlife. This is the same general driver of what you have also picked up on here at Giza. This is a riddle of efficiency. My hunch is that course #35 is a major plot point in this story.

Manu

Hi Manu,

I agree with much here, as you have outlined. These current illustration(s) were born out of  those who do not believe "water" was employed in the construction of the Giza Pyramids. I wanted to show, even without water, it could be done. Which in turn completely negates the need for Ramps.

A few years ago, I came to the realization, that there was more to the Khafre's Causeway, than what  Egyptology proposed. They postulated it was built for a religious purpose. It may have served in that purpose, though only once the Pyramids were completed. Re purposed if you will. Why would you need two causeways, each of which is nearly 30 feet wide, for a religious ceremony. It struck me as a stretch in logic. Do we not go up and return on the same paths?

And, why is there a middle lower indentation, 5-6 feet wide? What purpose would that serve? I am mentioning all of this, because I believe the Causeway(s) are all at a 4.6 degree slope. Find me one which isn't. We spent months looking around at other Pyramids in Egypt, and they all have the same slope, 4.6 degrees. I applied that to Kufu's Causeway, and where it should end, argued it was not bent, and published that location here on GH.  Low and behold, months later an Egyptian was arrested after finding the "straight" causeway beneath his? house.  That's a fact. It was not hard to do. I simply used Google Earth, and plotted a line from his Temple, and where it would end, based on the 4.6 angle.

There are 29-30 foot walls surrounding G1 and G2. Why would they go to all that trouble? Well, Egyptologist say for a religious purpose. This is what they say, every time they have no logical answer... It had to do with their religion...

Those heavier blocks were placed using short ramps. Once they were in place,  they switched over to smaller blocks. Smaller blocks which could be lifted quicker and in larger numbers. Why drag any block, when you have in place, the ability to use water and gravity.  The same barges which carried the stone down the Nile, were constructed in such a fashion, to be waterproofed inside and out. 
 
In comes the Water Funicular. [www.youtube.com]
If you have water, polished surfaces on the the Causeway, short pieces of rope between the barges, you do not need to drag stones up any hill. Now I am a little of topic, but those walls contained water, and there is evidence of that.

I have an  abundance of drawings showing this, backed up by math, incline plains and the necessary size of each engineered barge to be used on a Funicular Causeway. It all fits like a glove. I did have a problem, attempting to use the causeway to lift the stones up the face of the Pyramids, thou that would not be required, as I have illustrated within this Topic. A Study of Ramps. I worked with Professors & Engineers to refine these ideas. Spent money, resolving these issues.

It is all feasible.



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 08-Mar-20 19:55 by Steve Clayton.

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A Study in Ramps 1605 Steve Clayton 01-Mar-20 17:30
Re: A Study in Ramps 267 Manu 01-Mar-20 18:25
Re: A Study in Ramps 257 Steve Clayton 01-Mar-20 20:08
Re: A Study in Ramps 245 Manu 02-Mar-20 02:31
Re: A Study in Ramps 227 Steve Clayton 02-Mar-20 04:54
Re: A Study in Ramps 240 Warwick 01-Mar-20 19:13
Re: A Study in Ramps 230 Steve Clayton 01-Mar-20 20:11
Addendum 227 Steve Clayton 01-Mar-20 22:51
Re: Addendum 242 Manu 02-Mar-20 02:22
Re: Addendum 221 Steve Clayton 02-Mar-20 04:56
Re: Addendum 225 Manu 02-Mar-20 11:15
an observation 228 Warwick 02-Mar-20 18:26
Re: an observation 233 cladking 02-Mar-20 18:38
Re: an observation 217 Warwick 02-Mar-20 18:45
Re: an observation 212 cladking 02-Mar-20 18:52
Point of Order 213 Warwick 02-Mar-20 18:56
Re: Point of Order 209 cladking 02-Mar-20 20:17
Re: Point of Order 216 Warwick 02-Mar-20 23:37
You Meant "Superstitious Idiots" As A Complement? 212 thinkitover 03-Mar-20 05:20
Re: You Meant "Superstitious Idiots" As A Complement? 206 Warwick 03-Mar-20 05:40
Re: You Meant "Superstitious Idiots" As A Complement? 199 cladking 03-Mar-20 14:08
Re: You Meant "Superstitious Idiots" As A Complement? 195 Warwick 03-Mar-20 18:45
Re: You Meant "Superstitious Idiots" As A Complement? 202 cladking 03-Mar-20 20:54
Re: You Meant "Superstitious Idiots" As A Complement? 169 cladking 11-May-20 14:33
Re: an observation 204 Steve Clayton 03-Mar-20 17:05
Re: an observation 199 Warwick 03-Mar-20 18:56
Re: an observation 189 cladking 03-Mar-20 20:57
Re: an observation 183 Warwick 04-Mar-20 17:49
Re: an observation 196 cladking 04-Mar-20 17:58
One Last Try 199 Warwick 04-Mar-20 18:04
20 % of 1.5 Million 192 Warwick 04-Mar-20 18:06
I forgot 198 Warwick 04-Mar-20 18:07
Re: One Last Try 195 cladking 04-Mar-20 18:18
Re: One Last Try 184 Warwick 04-Mar-20 18:33
Re: One Last Try 194 Steve Clayton 04-Mar-20 19:33
Re: One Last Try 195 Warwick 04-Mar-20 19:48
Re: One Last Try 187 cladking 04-Mar-20 20:04
Re: One Last Try 190 Warwick 04-Mar-20 20:21
Re: One Last Try 198 cladking 04-Mar-20 20:57
Re: One Last Try 199 Warwick 04-Mar-20 21:38
Re: It's Spring 209 Steve Clayton 05-Mar-20 13:13
Re: One Last Try 193 Steve Clayton 04-Mar-20 22:45
Re: One Last Try 194 Thanos5150 05-Mar-20 16:36
Re: One Last Try 195 cladking 05-Mar-20 16:56
Re: One Last Try 194 cladking 04-Mar-20 19:57
Re: One Last Try 184 Steve Clayton 05-Mar-20 13:54
Re: One Last Try 197 cladking 05-Mar-20 15:00
Re: an observation 202 Steve Clayton 03-Mar-20 00:36
Re: Addendum 201 SandyJesse 05-Mar-20 23:11
Re: Addendum 179 Steve Clayton 06-Mar-20 16:01
Re: Addendum 188 SandyJesse 07-Mar-20 23:16
Re: A Study in Ramps 222 cladking 01-Mar-20 22:58
Re: A Study in Ramps 213 Steve Clayton 02-Mar-20 03:31
Re: A Study in Ramps 190 cladking 02-Mar-20 18:47
Point of Order 192 Warwick 02-Mar-20 19:00
Re: Point of Order 190 cladking 02-Mar-20 20:05
Re: Point of Order 193 Warwick 02-Mar-20 23:43
Re: Point of Order 189 cladking 03-Mar-20 02:20
Re: Point of Order 194 Warwick 03-Mar-20 04:32
Re: Point of Order 185 cladking 03-Mar-20 14:40
Re: Point of Order 179 Open mind 03-Mar-20 15:14
Re: Point of Order 188 Warwick 03-Mar-20 18:37
Re: Point of Order 184 Open mind 03-Mar-20 19:14
Re: Point of Order - O/T, sort of 190 Warwick 03-Mar-20 19:52
Re: Point of Order 211 Steve Clayton 03-Mar-20 00:09
Re: Point of Order 197 thinkitover 03-Mar-20 05:27
Re: Point of Order 187 cladking 03-Mar-20 14:24
Re: Point of Order 191 Steve Clayton 03-Mar-20 19:44
Re: Point of Order 183 cladking 03-Mar-20 20:59
Re: Point of Order 189 Steve Clayton 03-Mar-20 23:34
Re: Point of Order 203 cladking 04-Mar-20 01:10
Re: Point of Order 225 Thanos5150 04-Mar-20 02:03
Re: Point of Order 193 engbren 04-Mar-20 12:46
Saw Palace Context Sign is pr wr. 213 Manu 04-Mar-20 13:12
Re: Point of Order 206 cladking 04-Mar-20 14:45
Re: Point of Order 206 Manu 04-Mar-20 14:49
Re: Point of Order 199 cladking 04-Mar-20 17:18
Re: Point of Order 192 Manu 04-Mar-20 17:36
Re: Point of Order 192 cladking 04-Mar-20 18:10
Re: Point of Order 199 cladking 07-Mar-20 21:05
Re: Point of Order 187 Steve Clayton 06-Mar-20 19:57
Re: Point of Order 181 cladking 04-Mar-20 17:15
Re: Point of Order 180 Steve Clayton 04-Mar-20 18:29
Re: Point of Order 174 cladking 04-Mar-20 18:44
Re: Point of Order 211 cladking 04-Mar-20 15:44
Re: Point of Order 211 Thanos5150 04-Mar-20 16:23
Re: Point of Order 199 cladking 04-Mar-20 16:43
Re: Point of Order 187 Thanos5150 04-Mar-20 17:38
Re: Point of Order 183 Warwick 04-Mar-20 17:46
Re: Point of Order 188 cladking 04-Mar-20 20:47
Burn all the books!!! 172 Warwick 05-Mar-20 17:46
Re: Rewrite all the books!!! 204 cladking 05-Mar-20 18:02
Re: Rewrite all the books!!! 172 Warwick 05-Mar-20 18:14
...Then We might as well just Chuck the Books. 188 cladking 05-Mar-20 18:53
Re: ...Then We might as well just Chuck the Books. 180 Warwick 05-Mar-20 20:11
Re: ...Then We might as well just Chuck the Books. 192 cladking 05-Mar-20 21:02
Re: ...Then We might as well just Chuck the Books. 190 Warwick 05-Mar-20 21:42
Re: Point of Order 190 Steve Clayton 04-Mar-20 17:58
Re: Point of Order 184 cladking 04-Mar-20 18:48
Re: Point of Order 181 Steve Clayton 06-Mar-20 16:34
Re: Point of Order 192 cladking 06-Mar-20 19:31
Re: Point of Order 181 Steve Clayton 07-Mar-20 00:47
Re: Point of Order 181 cladking 07-Mar-20 01:24
Re: Point of Order 189 Steve Clayton 07-Mar-20 17:40
Re: Point of Order 171 cladking 07-Mar-20 20:52
Re: Point of Order 193 Manu 06-Mar-20 20:31
Re: Point of Order 186 cladking 06-Mar-20 20:47
ST3W 196 Manu 06-Mar-20 21:16
Re: Point of Order 185 cladking 06-Mar-20 21:18
Ra-st3w 207 Manu 06-Mar-20 21:33
Re: Ra-st3w 196 cladking 06-Mar-20 23:08
Re: Ra-st3w 198 cladking 06-Mar-20 23:23
Re: Ra-st3w 184 cladking 09-Mar-20 03:18
Re: Point of Order 180 Steve Clayton 07-Mar-20 01:21
Re: Point of Order 187 Manu 08-Mar-20 17:24
Re: Point of Order 178 Steve Clayton 08-Mar-20 19:07
Re: Point of Order 165 Warwick 08-Mar-20 19:21
Re: Point of Order 177 cladking 08-Mar-20 21:13
Re: Point of Order 159 Steve Clayton 08-Mar-20 22:01
Re: Point of Order 183 cladking 08-Mar-20 23:12
Re: Point of Order 161 Steve Clayton 09-Mar-20 15:38
Re: Point of Order 158 cladking 09-Mar-20 17:49
Re: Point of Order 156 Steve Clayton 09-Mar-20 20:25
Re: Point of Order 178 Warwick 09-Mar-20 20:48
Re: Point of Order 176 Steve Clayton 09-Mar-20 23:12
Re: Point of Order 170 Warwick 10-Mar-20 17:01
Re: Point of Order 164 Steve Clayton 10-Mar-20 20:41
Obvious to all?? 161 Warwick 11-Mar-20 17:10
after all 161 Warwick 11-Mar-20 17:14
Re: Obvious to all?? 151 cladking 11-Mar-20 18:12
Re: Obvious to all?? 180 Warwick 11-Mar-20 18:19
Khafre Causeway-Logistics before Religion? 173 Manu 08-Mar-20 19:28
think conduit 162 Warwick 08-Mar-20 19:57
further reading 156 Warwick 08-Mar-20 20:00
Re: Khafre Causeway-Logistics before Religion? 166 Steve Clayton 08-Mar-20 20:12
Re: Point of Order 177 cladking 08-Mar-20 14:32
Re: Point of Order 180 Manu 08-Mar-20 15:01
Re: Point of Order 171 cladking 08-Mar-20 15:44
Re: Point of Order 171 Manu 08-Mar-20 16:03
Re: Point of Order 160 cladking 08-Mar-20 23:21
Re: Point of Order 177 Thanos5150 08-Mar-20 16:05
Re: Point of Order 163 Warwick 08-Mar-20 19:28
Re: Point of Order 165 cladking 08-Mar-20 21:25
Re: Point of Order 191 Steve Clayton 08-Mar-20 20:49
Re: Point of Order 163 Warwick 08-Mar-20 20:59
Re: Point of Order 175 Steve Clayton 08-Mar-20 22:08
Re: Point of Order 170 cladking 08-Mar-20 23:16
Re: Point of Order 167 Warwick 09-Mar-20 17:39
Re: Point of Order 169 cladking 08-Mar-20 21:05
Re: Point of Order 184 Steve Clayton 03-Mar-20 16:44
Re: Point of Order 164 cladking 03-Mar-20 21:03
Re: Point of Order 165 Steve Clayton 04-Mar-20 17:40
Re: Point of Order 162 cladking 04-Mar-20 19:09
Re: Point of Order 159 Steve Clayton 05-Mar-20 17:03
Re: Point of Order 159 cladking 05-Mar-20 17:52
A stupid question 175 Warwick 05-Mar-20 17:55
Re: A stupid question 164 cladking 05-Mar-20 18:47
Re: A stupid question 176 Steve Clayton 06-Mar-20 17:49
Re: A stupid question 174 Warwick 07-Mar-20 19:14
Re: A stupid question 169 Steve Clayton 07-Mar-20 23:09
Re: A stupid question 155 Warwick 08-Mar-20 18:41
Re: Point of Order 183 Open mind 03-Mar-20 15:26
Re: Point of Order 172 cladking 03-Mar-20 21:07
Re: A Study in Ramps 173 Steve Clayton 03-Mar-20 17:29
Re: A Study in Ramps 181 cladking 03-Mar-20 21:11
Re: A Study in Ramps 171 Steve Clayton 07-Mar-20 18:12
Re: A Study in Ramps 192 Thanos5150 03-Mar-20 16:10
Re: A Study in Ramps 194 Steve Clayton 03-Mar-20 16:57
Re: A Study in Ramps 184 Warwick 03-Mar-20 19:57
Re: A Study in Ramps 180 cladking 03-Mar-20 21:21
Sam Briefly changes Feet 177 Warwick 04-Mar-20 17:27
Re: Sam Briefly changes Feet 168 cladking 04-Mar-20 17:49
Re: Sam Briefly changes Feet 169 Warwick 04-Mar-20 18:12
Rollers and Rope 184 Steve Clayton 04-Mar-20 16:41
Re: Rollers and Rope 160 Open mind 04-Mar-20 16:53
Re: Rollers and Rope 172 Steve Clayton 04-Mar-20 22:22
Re: Rollers and Rope 176 Open mind 05-Mar-20 01:25
Re: Rollers and Rope 162 Steve Clayton 05-Mar-20 15:34
Re: Rollers and Rope 179 Open mind 05-Mar-20 16:08
Re: Rollers and Rope 168 cladking 05-Mar-20 16:32
Re: Rollers and Rope 165 Open mind 05-Mar-20 18:26
Re: Rollers and Rope 166 Open mind 05-Mar-20 18:40
Re: Rollers and Rope 165 cladking 05-Mar-20 21:13
Re: Rollers and Rope 160 Steve Clayton 06-Mar-20 16:14
Re: Rollers and Rope 180 Steve Clayton 06-Mar-20 02:11
Re: Rollers and Rope 187 cladking 06-Mar-20 15:09
Re: Rollers and Rope 168 Open mind 07-Mar-20 01:35
Re: Rollers and Rope 176 cladking 04-Mar-20 17:37
Re: Rollers and Rope 163 Open mind 04-Mar-20 19:18
Re: Rollers and Rope 180 cladking 04-Mar-20 19:30
Re: Rollers and Rope 171 Open mind 04-Mar-20 21:29
Re: Rollers and Rope 182 Warwick 04-Mar-20 21:35
Re: Rollers and Rope 171 Open mind 04-Mar-20 22:24
Re: Rollers and Rope 176 cladking 04-Mar-20 22:31
Re: Rollers and Rope 178 cladking 04-Mar-20 22:35
Re: Rollers and Rope 178 Steve Clayton 08-Mar-20 01:03
Re: Rollers and Rope 159 Warwick 08-Mar-20 18:46
Re: Rollers and Rope 173 Steve Clayton 08-Mar-20 21:34
Re: Rollers and Rope 182 Thanos5150 09-Mar-20 00:59
Re: Rollers and Rope 175 Steve Clayton 09-Mar-20 14:15
Re: Rollers and Rope 165 Warwick 09-Mar-20 17:53
Re: Rollers and Rope 164 Open mind 09-Mar-20 18:10
Re: Rollers and Rope 163 Warwick 09-Mar-20 18:27
Re: Rollers and Rope 185 Steve Clayton 08-Mar-20 01:55
Re: Rollers and Rope 174 cladking 04-Mar-20 22:23
Re: Rollers and Rope 173 Open mind 04-Mar-20 22:30
Re: Rollers and Rope 168 cladking 04-Mar-20 22:50
Re: Rollers and Rope 174 Steve Clayton 04-Mar-20 23:06
Re: Rollers and Rope 169 cladking 05-Mar-20 01:01
Re: Rollers and Rope 175 Open mind 05-Mar-20 01:10
Re: Rollers and Rope 170 Steve Clayton 05-Mar-20 00:10
Re: Rollers and Rope 170 Open mind 05-Mar-20 00:52
Re: Rollers and Rope 177 Steve Clayton 05-Mar-20 16:04
Re: Rollers and Rope 167 Open mind 05-Mar-20 18:13
Re: Rollers and Rope 173 Steve Clayton 05-Mar-20 19:10
Khufu Quarry Ramp, G1-X and T.P.'s 200 Manu 08-Mar-20 22:32
Re: Khufu Quarry Ramp, G1-X and T.P.'s 187 Steve Clayton 08-Mar-20 23:22
Re: A Study in Ramps 198 Steve Clayton 04-Apr-20 22:14
Re: A Study in Ramps 207 cladking 11-May-20 14:42
Re: A Study in Ramps 165 Steve Clayton 13-May-20 03:06
Re: A Study in Ramps 165 Hanslune 13-May-20 19:58
Re: A Study in Ramps 143 cladking 14-May-20 13:48
The reason you always refused to provide drawings of your ideas 142 Hanslune 14-May-20 21:22
Re: The reason you always refused to provide drawings of your ideas 134 cladking 15-May-20 14:34
Re: The reason you always refused to provide drawings of your ideas 137 Hanslune 15-May-20 15:25
Re: The reason you always refused to provide drawings of your ideas 152 cladking 15-May-20 17:46
...and he's off and running 174 Hanslune 16-May-20 17:12
Re: ...and he's off and running 141 Steve Clayton 18-May-20 18:56
Re: ...and he's off and running 133 Warwick 18-May-20 19:47
Re: ...and he's off and running 139 Steve Clayton 18-May-20 20:31
Re: ...and he's off and running 139 Hanslune 18-May-20 22:01
Re: ...and he's off and running 143 Steve Clayton 20-May-20 22:37
Re: ...and he's off and running 124 Warwick 21-May-20 17:28
Re: ...and he's off and running 150 cladking 18-May-20 20:58
Re: ...and he's off and running 138 Hanslune 18-May-20 22:16
Re: ...and he's off and running 135 Steve Clayton 21-May-20 00:06
Re: ...and he's off and running 137 Sirfiroth 21-May-20 16:56
Re: ...and he's off and running 128 Warwick 21-May-20 17:40
Re: ...and he's off and running 174 Sirfiroth 21-May-20 20:44
Re: ...and he's off and running 140 Warwick 22-May-20 02:53
Re: ...and he's off and running 157 Steve Clayton 27-May-20 23:04
Elementary 126 Warwick 28-May-20 16:56
Re: Elementary 129 cladking 28-May-20 20:36
Re: Elementary 124 Warwick 28-May-20 20:51
Walk Like an Egypt(ologist). 146 cladking 29-May-20 13:48
just saw this 124 Warwick 04-Jun-20 20:02
Re: just saw this 117 cladking 04-Jun-20 20:15
Re: Elementary 137 Steve Clayton 28-May-20 21:59
Re: Elementary 126 cladking 29-May-20 13:41
Re: Elementary 137 Steve Clayton 30-May-20 14:14
Re: Elementary 122 cladking 31-May-20 13:37
Re: Elementary 142 Steve Clayton 31-May-20 20:03
Re: Elementary 128 cladking 31-May-20 21:55
Our History is Writ in the Rainbow. 117 cladking 01-Jun-20 14:32
still avoiding the POINT 115 Warwick 01-Jun-20 18:46
Re: still avoiding the POINT 130 cladking 01-Jun-20 21:19
It was the BORG 112 Warwick 02-Jun-20 19:02
Reality Itself was Anthropomorphized 140 cladking 03-Jun-20 01:10
Re: Reality Itself was Anthropomorphized 119 Warwick 03-Jun-20 17:35
Re: Reality Itself was Anthropomorphized 129 cladking 03-Jun-20 19:11
Can We Get Back to Chasing Rainbows? :-) 119 thinkitover 04-Jun-20 08:41
Re: Can We Get Back to Chasing Rainbows? :-) 117 cladking 04-Jun-20 13:38
Re: Can We Get Back to Chasing Rainbows? :-) 105 Warwick 04-Jun-20 17:28
Re: Can We Get Back to Chasing Rainbows? :-) 116 cladking 04-Jun-20 20:37
Re: Can We Get Back to Chasing Rainbows? :-) 116 Warwick 04-Jun-20 21:24
Re: Can We Get Back to Chasing Rainbows? :-) 128 cladking 04-Jun-20 21:48
Re: still avoiding the POINT 131 Steve Clayton 02-Jun-20 16:37
Re: still avoiding the POINT 126 cladking 02-Jun-20 18:45
Re: still avoiding the POINT 106 Warwick 02-Jun-20 18:55
Re: still avoiding the POINT 126 Steve Clayton 02-Jun-20 20:42
Re: still avoiding the POINT 106 Warwick 02-Jun-20 21:11
Re: still avoiding the POINT 130 Steve Clayton 02-Jun-20 23:05
Doing your work for you 123 Warwick 03-Jun-20 17:56
Re: Doing your work for you 130 Steve Clayton 04-Jun-20 02:12
Re: Doing your work for you 106 Warwick 04-Jun-20 18:03
Re: Doing your work for you 126 Steve Clayton 07-Jun-20 22:14
Re: Doing your work for you 130 Warwick 08-Jun-20 19:47
Re: still avoiding the POINT 150 SandyJesse 13-Jun-20 23:15
Re: still avoiding the POINT 156 Steve Clayton 14-Jun-20 23:19
Re: still avoiding the POINT 178 SandyJesse 18-Jun-20 22:49
Help!!!! 135 Warwick 21-May-20 17:33
Good luck Steve 135 Hanslune 18-May-20 21:55
Re: A Study in Ramps 155 cladking 14-May-20 13:57
Key words run through a database isn't research Cladking 138 Hanslune 14-May-20 21:51
Re: A Study in Ramps 199 LonelyAngel 14-May-20 16:31
Re: A Study in Ramps 145 Hanslune 14-May-20 21:56
Re: A Study in Ramps 139 Steve Clayton 18-May-20 21:53
Re: A Study in Ramps 139 Hanslune 18-May-20 22:20
Re: A Study in Ramps 157 Steve Clayton 19-May-20 01:16
Re: A Study in Ramps 147 Hanslune 19-May-20 14:45
Re: A Study in Ramps 158 Steve Clayton 19-May-20 16:07
Please, leave the windmills to Sam 153 Warwick 19-May-20 18:34
Re: Please, leave the windmills to Sam 144 Steve Clayton 19-May-20 20:05
Re: Please, leave the windmills to Sam 135 Warwick 19-May-20 20:55
Re: Please, leave the windmills to Sam 157 Steve Clayton 19-May-20 21:33
Re: Please, leave the windmills to Sam 139 cladking 20-May-20 02:47
Your lack of evidence isn't a problem you can put on others - its yours 141 Hanslune 20-May-20 04:58
Egyptology's Cultural Context 145 cladking 20-May-20 13:53
Ramp theory vs Geyser powered Funicular idea 136 Hanslune 20-May-20 15:43
Re: Ramp theory vs Geyser powered Funicular idea 137 cladking 20-May-20 17:17
Re: Ramp theory vs Geyser powered Funicular idea 140 Hanslune 22-May-20 17:02
Re: Ramp theory vs Geyser powered Funicular idea 141 Warwick 24-May-20 18:13
Re: Ramp theory vs Geyser powered Funicular idea 141 cladking 24-May-20 19:18
In normal conversation... 137 Warwick 24-May-20 19:52
Re: In normal conversation... 167 cladking 25-May-20 01:06
Another final word (waste of time) 159 Warwick 25-May-20 17:52
Re: Another final word (waste of time) 122 Hanslune 26-May-20 14:59
Re: Another final word (waste of time) 146 cladking 26-May-20 15:11
Re: Ramp theory vs Geyser powered Funicular idea 151 Steve Clayton 30-May-20 15:27
Long Live Ramps! 118 cladking 31-May-20 14:05
Re: Egyptology's Cultural Context 127 Warwick 20-May-20 18:05
Re: Egyptology's Cultural Context 146 cladking 20-May-20 20:37
Re: Egyptology's Cultural Context 122 Warwick 20-May-20 21:55
Re: Egyptology's Cultural Context 143 cladking 21-May-20 01:01
Re: Egyptology's Cultural Context 128 Warwick 21-May-20 17:17
Re: Please, leave the windmills to Sam 134 Warwick 20-May-20 18:03
REALITY CHECK 157 Warwick 20-May-20 18:02
Re: REALITY CHECK 141 Steve Clayton 20-May-20 20:28
Re: REALITY CHECK 137 Warwick 20-May-20 22:04
Re: REALITY CHECK 137 Steve Clayton 20-May-20 23:53
Re: REALITY CHECK 126 Warwick 21-May-20 17:12
My boy Luke can eat 50 eggs. n/t 139 cladking 21-May-20 01:08
Re: A Study in Ramps 144 Hanslune 20-May-20 04:53
The trouble is.. 133 Warwick 20-May-20 18:09
Re: The trouble is.. 149 Steve Clayton 20-May-20 20:15
Re: The trouble is.. 129 Warwick 20-May-20 22:16
Re: A Study in Ramps 147 Steve Clayton 20-May-20 19:13
Re: A Study in Ramps 130 Warwick 20-May-20 22:20
Re: A Study in Ramps 141 Steve Clayton 20-May-20 22:46
Re: A Study in Ramps 151 SandyJesse 21-May-20 00:08
Re: A Study in Ramps 147 Steve Clayton 21-May-20 03:19
Re: A Study in Ramps 152 SandyJesse 21-May-20 04:17
Re: A Study in Ramps 150 Steve Clayton 21-May-20 14:19
Re: A Study in Ramps 140 cladking 21-May-20 14:37
Re: A Study in Ramps 142 cladking 21-May-20 14:53
Re: A Study in Ramps 161 Steve Clayton 21-May-20 15:38
there's the windmill 140 Warwick 21-May-20 17:05
Re: there's the windmill 144 cladking 22-May-20 13:24
Re: there's the windmill 133 Warwick 25-May-20 17:39
Re: there's the windmill 127 cladking 30-May-20 14:11
Re: A Study in Ramps 146 Hanslune 22-May-20 17:39
Re: A Study in Ramps 143 SandyJesse 21-May-20 15:47
Re: A Study in Ramps 158 Steve Clayton 21-May-20 16:09
Re: A Study in Ramps 146 Warwick 21-May-20 16:46
Re: A Study in Ramps 151 Warwick 21-May-20 17:44
Re: A Study in Ramps 133 Warwick 21-May-20 16:57
Re: A Study in Ramps 132 Warwick 21-May-20 16:40
Re: A Study in Ramps 144 Warwick 21-May-20 16:39
Re: A Study in Ramps 146 Hanslune 22-May-20 17:32
Re: A Study in Ramps 266 Thanos5150 23-May-20 00:00
Re: A Study in Ramps 142 Warwick 24-May-20 18:02
Re: A Study in Ramps 147 cladking 24-May-20 19:22
I've got an idea 133 Warwick 24-May-20 19:47
Re: I've got an idea 141 cladking 24-May-20 19:59
Re: I've got an idea 133 Warwick 25-May-20 17:30


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