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> Steve, the word for ramp is st3 which is three
> coiled ropes. This word is also used for dragging.
> Cladking is ill-informed.
I would really appreciate more information on this.
What is the inscription? Even if Lehner's highly dubious translation is exactly correct Why can't "entrance to the haul" refer to the operation of Steve Clayton's funicular?
I still don't don't see any ramps and don't understand why so many do.
> Clearly ramps were used up to a certain course
> level. The archaeological evidence is solid. Heck
> you can see a ramp out of the quarry so obviously
> stones were dragged up on it.
It is apparent and very well evidenced the pyramid was constructed largely from the east side at low level. It appears that stones were pulled directly out of the quarry directly toward point 20' north and 10' east of the NW corner. There is no evidence teams of men dragged them up this straight line. Almost all of the stone was taken to the pyramid toward this point, toward a point 100' east of it, or toward the masons shop on the east side. This is how they built the pyramid but there were no teams of draggers and no evidence of them.
The existence of a "ramp" neither cause nor reflects "stinky feet".
Why would they drag stones toward three points (four eventually) unless there was something at these points that caused the stones to move or were the location of the next process that moved them? Why would they drag stones to points that aren't even on the pyramid and couldn't "possibly" be associated with lifting them higher?
I would grant that all of these "ramps" could have been operated "manually" by superstitious people but we are still left with a simple problem; how did they lift the hard stones at the top. Obviously the lower stones were all "easy" to drag right up on tiny little ramps. Sure thousands of men would live and die on them but that was their problem and we believe life is cheap. But those stones at the top were not easy and we are left with no means to lift them. AND I would remind you that course thicknesses are regular and show that there was no significant change in any methods from quarrying to lifting, to placement.
Even if you could show that stones were dragged up by teams it still leaves a pyramid with no top.
Egyptologists simply ignore all of this and prevent scientists from doing even the simplest testing. The attitude is that we already know they could only have used ramps and we need no testing. They have dragged their belief up the most monstrous construct ever devised by man and now they realize they designed no means to get back down. Egyptians don't live and die on ramps, Egyptologists did.
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> Steve, the word for ramp is st3 which is three
> coiled ropes. This word is also used for dragging.
> Cladking is ill-informed.
I would really appreciate more information on this.
What is the inscription? Even if Lehner's highly dubious translation is exactly correct Why can't "entrance to the haul" refer to the operation of Steve Clayton's funicular?
I still don't don't see any ramps and don't understand why so many do.
> Clearly ramps were used up to a certain course
> level. The archaeological evidence is solid. Heck
> you can see a ramp out of the quarry so obviously
> stones were dragged up on it.
It is apparent and very well evidenced the pyramid was constructed largely from the east side at low level. It appears that stones were pulled directly out of the quarry directly toward point 20' north and 10' east of the NW corner. There is no evidence teams of men dragged them up this straight line. Almost all of the stone was taken to the pyramid toward this point, toward a point 100' east of it, or toward the masons shop on the east side. This is how they built the pyramid but there were no teams of draggers and no evidence of them.
The existence of a "ramp" neither cause nor reflects "stinky feet".
Why would they drag stones toward three points (four eventually) unless there was something at these points that caused the stones to move or were the location of the next process that moved them? Why would they drag stones to points that aren't even on the pyramid and couldn't "possibly" be associated with lifting them higher?
I would grant that all of these "ramps" could have been operated "manually" by superstitious people but we are still left with a simple problem; how did they lift the hard stones at the top. Obviously the lower stones were all "easy" to drag right up on tiny little ramps. Sure thousands of men would live and die on them but that was their problem and we believe life is cheap. But those stones at the top were not easy and we are left with no means to lift them. AND I would remind you that course thicknesses are regular and show that there was no significant change in any methods from quarrying to lifting, to placement.
Even if you could show that stones were dragged up by teams it still leaves a pyramid with no top.
Egyptologists simply ignore all of this and prevent scientists from doing even the simplest testing. The attitude is that we already know they could only have used ramps and we need no testing. They have dragged their belief up the most monstrous construct ever devised by man and now they realize they designed no means to get back down. Egyptians don't live and die on ramps, Egyptologists did.
Man fears the pyramid, time fears man.
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