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Hi Jim

Oh, I don’t know if you should have deleted it...maybe added to it about the difference between solar and stellar days if possible.

For Earth’s stellar day rotation of 23h 56m 4.1s of 360deg, 15d offers up 1h 1m 1.5s regression for star culmination, which kind of means that for every day forward that one observes the sky at just 4.1s earlier than the appropriate hour, one would observe star culmination exactly 1h difference 15d hence. I reckon it would be too hard to observe 0.1s as something to time against in those ancient days but every 10d offers a whole second, and one would be able to table observations in such a way that very good time keeping could be had for astronomical observations. (Is this the basis for a 10d week? Might be.) Of course, using exact timing over longer periods of years and common number factors would define that every x-amount of years, an extra second would be implemented to have the perfect x-amount of years length.

The solar day is 24hrs where the Sun crosses a meridian in the same place every day when viewed from an Earthly location, albeit a slight difference in altitude. Could one move a staff the appropriate distance so the cast shadow is the same length as the previous day? Of course, but one would have to do so during the correct days or findings would be off. For our current tilt of 23.4392811o, the Sun ‘travels’ 5,209.752649km along Earth’s meridian during a ½ year but does so quite slowly on the solstices and quite evenly on the equinoxes, with the ‘equinox speed’ prevalent for much of the journey. I have yet to work out which length of days are the right ones to do such a thing on, and how far the Sun ‘travels’ in 1 day during that time. Overall, one would think the Sun ‘travels’ some 28 ½ km each day but it does not. It is around that figure but not that figure. Now you know why I mentioned the Faiyum Basin as a place to make such observations at...when it is full and empty so water-and-land surface measures can be identified. I hazard a guess there is an appropriate celebratory observation in the AE special days which indicates Sun-measures were made...probably Seshat, Thoth and Ra would be a triple identity on that day.

I like your quote from Renouf. It identifies most of the glorious and memorable tales we have, including the Book of the Dead, which have astronomy as the foundation from which translation of observation creates the tale. It only matters how well the tale is told and what characters are used in order to be popular. Care to have Horus, Rama or Jesus as the important ‘person’? Too easy for a religion...the Sun rejuvenated either each day or each winter. How about a fairy tale about a hare and tortoise? Why not...the fast and slow Suns throughout the year.

I’m reading Gerald Massey at the mo, Ancient Egypt volume 1. I’ll check what you link to after I’ve read Massey’s volume 2 and digested both.

Cheers

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Remen : Meridian 2347 Jim Alison 15-Nov-19 22:52
DUNE!: Remen : Meridian 239 PB Bytes 16-Nov-19 17:55
Re: DUNE!: Remen : Meridian 226 DUNE 17-Nov-19 09:56
Re: DUNE!: Remen : Meridian 200 Jim Alison 17-Nov-19 23:45
Re: DUNE!: Remen : Meridian 201 PB Bytes 17-Nov-19 23:59
Found it! 245 PB Bytes 18-Nov-19 02:55
Re: Found it! 204 Mercurial 20-Nov-19 11:44
Re: Found it! 184 Jim Alison 20-Nov-19 14:42
Squaring The Circle 214 Dr. Troglodyte 20-Nov-19 18:59
Re: Squaring The Circle 208 Jim Alison 20-Nov-19 20:02
Re: Squaring The Circle 198 Jim Alison 20-Nov-19 20:22
Remen references 216 Lee McGiffen 21-Nov-19 01:59
Re: Remen references 222 Jim Alison 21-Nov-19 04:29
Re: Remen references 188 magisterchessmutt 24-Nov-19 13:56
Re: Remen references 162 Jim Alison 24-Nov-19 20:05
Re: Remen references 176 magisterchessmutt 24-Nov-19 21:17
Re: Remen references 160 magisterchessmutt 25-Nov-19 01:24
Re: Remen references 158 magisterchessmutt 25-Nov-19 12:10
Re: Remen references 200 DUNE 25-Nov-19 13:17
Re: Remen references 130 Jim Alison 16-Jan-20 20:22
Drastic Geodetic Measures and Nippur Cubit 204 thinkitover 25-Nov-19 06:46
Re: Remen references 189 Jim Alison 26-Nov-19 08:04
Re: Remen references 211 Lee McGiffen 27-Nov-19 12:54
Re: Remen references 166 Mercurial 28-Nov-19 22:32
Re: Remen references 223 Jim Alison 01-Dec-19 06:15
Re: Squaring The Circle 218 magisterchessmutt 21-Nov-19 00:47
Re: Squaring The Circle 179 magisterchessmutt 21-Nov-19 02:32
Re: Squaring The Circle 172 Jim Alison 21-Nov-19 05:20
Re: Squaring The Circle 236 magisterchessmutt 21-Nov-19 06:26
Egyptian knowledge of √2 176 Lee McGiffen 22-Nov-19 06:39
Re: Egyptian knowledge of √2 154 magisterchessmutt 23-Nov-19 01:19
Re: Egyptian knowledge of √2 193 thinkitover 23-Nov-19 09:45
Re: Egyptian knowledge of √2 163 magisterchessmutt 23-Nov-19 14:42
Re: Egyptian knowledge of √2 158 PB Bytes 23-Nov-19 16:10
Everything Mick wrote here - 86 pages 169 geoffss 21-Nov-19 10:49
Re: Everything Mick wrote here - 86 pages 166 magisterchessmutt 21-Nov-19 11:54
Re: Squaring The Circle 134 molder 20-Dec-19 12:45
Re: Found it! 191 Mercurial 22-Nov-19 06:48
Re: Found it! 175 magisterchessmutt 22-Nov-19 12:01
Re: Found it! 172 PB Bytes 22-Nov-19 15:24
Re: Found it! 204 magisterchessmutt 22-Nov-19 23:55
Re: Found it! 164 PB Bytes 23-Nov-19 02:06
Re: Found it! 166 magisterchessmutt 23-Nov-19 02:36
Re: Found it! 163 PB Bytes 23-Nov-19 03:37
Re: Found it! 168 DUNE 23-Nov-19 18:42
Re: Found it! 155 PB Bytes 23-Nov-19 19:37
Re: Found it! 164 DUNE 23-Nov-19 20:14
Re: Found it! 154 PB Bytes 23-Nov-19 20:27
Re: Found it! 154 PB Bytes 23-Nov-19 20:46
Re: Found it! 161 DUNE 23-Nov-19 21:37
Re: Found it! 160 PB Bytes 23-Nov-19 21:55
Re: Found it! 167 DUNE 23-Nov-19 22:24
Re: Found it! 158 PB Bytes 23-Nov-19 22:44
Re: Found it! 216 PB Bytes 24-Nov-19 17:44
Re: Found it! 173 DUNE 24-Nov-19 18:29
Re: Found it! 172 PB Bytes 24-Nov-19 18:34
Re: Found it! 166 PB Bytes 23-Nov-19 20:59
Re: Found it! 161 magisterchessmutt 23-Nov-19 19:55
Totally debunked 166 Lee McGiffen 24-Nov-19 05:23
NOT Totally debunked 158 PB Bytes 24-Nov-19 05:41
eg: NOT Totally debunked 169 PB Bytes 24-Nov-19 06:12
Khufu <> Khafre 182 Dr. Troglodyte 23-Nov-19 00:28
Re: Khufu <> Khafre 158 Mercurial 24-Nov-19 19:12
Khufu <> Khafre - Update 116 Dr. Troglodyte 11-Jan-20 19:56
Re: Found it! 185 Jim Alison 23-Nov-19 01:35
Re: DUNE!: Remen : Meridian 175 magisterchessmutt 19-Nov-19 03:45
Re: DUNE!: Remen : Meridian 170 Jim Alison 19-Nov-19 14:05
Re: DUNE!: Remen : Meridian 171 magisterchessmutt 20-Nov-19 00:27
Re: DUNE!: Remen : Meridian 166 Jim Alison 20-Nov-19 15:34
Re: DUNE!: Remen : Meridian 160 magisterchessmutt 19-Nov-19 03:49
Re: DUNE!: Remen : Meridian 169 DUNE 19-Nov-19 10:37
Re: DUNE!: Remen : Meridian 168 Jim Alison 19-Nov-19 14:22
Re: DUNE!: Remen : Meridian 166 DUNE 19-Nov-19 15:37
Re: DUNE!: Remen : Meridian 160 Jim Alison 20-Nov-19 00:44
Re: DUNE!: Remen : Meridian 178 PB Bytes 19-Nov-19 16:43
Re: DUNE!: Remen : Meridian 165 Jim Alison 20-Nov-19 01:07
Re: DUNE!: Remen : Meridian 185 PB Bytes 20-Nov-19 01:38
Re: DUNE!: Remen : Meridian 165 Jim Alison 20-Nov-19 14:28
Where is this leading? 172 PB Bytes 21-Nov-19 17:19
Re: Where is this leading? 179 Lee McGiffen 22-Nov-19 06:49
Re: Remen : Meridian 183 PB Bytes 16-Nov-19 18:00
Re: Remen : Meridian 183 Jim Alison 16-Nov-19 22:09
Excellent! 190 thinkitover 16-Nov-19 18:29
Re: Excellent! 225 Jim Alison 16-Nov-19 22:24
Re: Excellent! 196 Lee McGiffen 18-Nov-19 07:36
Re: Excellent! 202 Jim Alison 18-Nov-19 15:55
Re: Excellent! 190 magisterchessmutt 19-Nov-19 03:57
Re: Remen : Meridian 182 Spiros 20-Nov-19 15:06
Re: Remen : Meridian 172 Spiros 20-Nov-19 19:28
Re: Remen : Meridian 172 Jim Alison 20-Nov-19 20:24
Re: Remen : Meridian 163 Spiros 20-Nov-19 22:25
Re: Remen : Meridian 201 Spiros 20-Nov-19 22:58
Re: Remen : Meridian 176 Spiros 20-Nov-19 23:49
Re: Remen : Meridian 178 Jim Alison 20-Nov-19 23:40
The Earth number 229 hendrik dirker 21-Nov-19 05:48
Re: The Earth number 200 Jim Alison 21-Nov-19 13:15
Re: The Earth number 182 molder 22-Nov-19 19:30
Re: The Earth number 167 Jim Alison 23-Nov-19 01:44
Geometry as Metrology? 193 thinkitover 23-Nov-19 22:56
Re: Geometry as Metrology? 180 magisterchessmutt 24-Nov-19 00:04
Re: Geometry as Metrology? 187 Jim Alison 24-Nov-19 01:16
Re: Geometry as Metrology? 210 magisterchessmutt 24-Nov-19 01:36
Re: Geometry as Metrology? 215 magisterchessmutt 24-Nov-19 01:49
Re: Remen : Meridian 252 magisterchessmutt 24-Nov-19 02:38
Re: Remen : Meridian 188 DavidK 11-Dec-19 23:26
Re: Remen : Meridian 167 DavidK 12-Dec-19 13:23
Re: Remen : Meridian 175 thinkitover 12-Dec-19 18:51
Re: Remen : Meridian 192 DavidK 12-Dec-19 21:27
Re: Remen : Meridian 145 Jiri Mruzek 13-Dec-19 00:55
Re: Remen : Meridian 137 DavidK 13-Dec-19 09:51
Re: Remen : Meridian 151 Jim Alison 13-Dec-19 03:48
Re: Remen : Meridian 137 magisterchessmutt 13-Dec-19 04:58
Re: Remen : Meridian 137 magisterchessmutt 13-Dec-19 05:44
Re: Remen : Meridian 141 DavidK 13-Dec-19 09:58
Re: Remen : Meridian 141 DavidK 13-Dec-19 09:15
Re: Remen : Meridian 141 magisterchessmutt 13-Dec-19 11:02
Re: Remen : Meridian 154 DavidK 13-Dec-19 11:07
Re: Earth circumference 167 drew 17-Dec-19 23:57
Re: Earth circumference 178 DavidK 18-Dec-19 11:29
Re: Earth circumference 169 drew 20-Dec-19 00:22
Re: Earth circumference 160 hendrik dirker 20-Dec-19 06:07
Re: Earth circumference 152 DavidK 20-Dec-19 13:27
Re: Earth circumference 137 hendrik dirker 21-Dec-19 12:48
Re: Earth circumference 150 Jim Alison 20-Dec-19 20:48
Re: Earth circumference 151 hendrik dirker 21-Dec-19 11:44
Re: Earth circumference 134 drew 20-Dec-19 23:48
Re: Remen : Meridian 142 Jim Alison 20-Dec-19 19:26
Re: Remen : Meridian 143 magisterchessmutt 21-Dec-19 01:54
Re: Remen : Meridian 143 Jim Alison 21-Dec-19 04:30
Re: Remen : Meridian 134 magisterchessmutt 21-Dec-19 07:43
Re: Remen : Meridian 139 DavidK 21-Dec-19 10:56
Re: Remen : Meridian 141 magisterchessmutt 21-Dec-19 11:24
Re: Remen : Meridian 135 magisterchessmutt 21-Dec-19 11:48
Re: Remen : Meridian 129 DavidK 21-Dec-19 16:08
Re: Remen : Meridian 152 DavidK 21-Dec-19 12:49
Re: Remen : Meridian 136 Jim Alison 21-Dec-19 15:19
Re: Remen : Meridian 135 molder 21-Dec-19 20:33
Re: Remen : Meridian 126 DavidK 21-Dec-19 23:49
Re: Remen : Meridian 134 Jim Alison 22-Dec-19 03:02
Re: Remen : Meridian 130 DavidK 22-Dec-19 10:30
Re: Roman measures Hang on let us get this right. 136 molder 22-Dec-19 13:03
Re: Roman measures Hang on let us get this right. 128 DavidK 22-Dec-19 15:01
Re: Roman measures Hang on let us get this right. 138 magisterchessmutt 22-Dec-19 17:13
Re: Roman measures Hang on let us get this right. 144 DavidK 22-Dec-19 17:32
Re: Roman measures Hang on let us get this right. 138 Jim Alison 24-Dec-19 05:23
Stecchini's Metrics 137 thinkitover 21-Dec-19 16:01
Re: Stecchini's Metrics 142 magisterchessmutt 21-Dec-19 17:17
Re: Stecchini's Metrics 138 thinkitover 24-Dec-19 15:06
Re: Remen : Meridian 139 drew 23-Dec-19 00:44
Re: Remen : Meridian 137 Jim Alison 23-Dec-19 02:55
Re: Remen : Meridian 152 DavidK 23-Dec-19 12:34
Re: Remen : Meridian 153 Jim Alison 24-Dec-19 01:09
Re: Remen : Meridian 132 drew 27-Dec-19 23:06
Re: Remen : Meridian 147 DavidK 27-Dec-19 23:59
Re: Remen : Meridian 144 drew 28-Dec-19 22:24
Re: Remen : Meridian 189 DavidK 29-Dec-19 00:50
Re: Remen : Meridian 102 Jim Alison 19-Apr-20 18:46
Re: Remen : Meridian 87 drew 22-Apr-20 23:44
Re: Remen : Meridian 94 magisterchessmutt 23-Apr-20 13:03
Re: Remen : Meridian 100 magisterchessmutt 24-Apr-20 08:14
Re: Remen : Meridian 133 Jim Alison 11-Jan-20 03:53
Re: Remen : Meridian 124 DavidK 11-Jan-20 13:54
The Egyptian Remen 14.58333r inches 159 DavidK 11-Jan-20 16:48
Re: Remen : Meridian 124 Jim Alison 22-Jan-20 00:10
Re: Remen : Meridian 124 Mercurial 22-Jan-20 20:59
say hello to rodz? 143 DavidK 11-Jan-20 18:01
Re: say hello to rodz? 124 thinkitover 12-Jan-20 06:03
Re: say hello to rodz? 134 DavidK 12-Jan-20 12:45
Re: say hello to rodz? 158 thinkitover 13-Jan-20 06:41
Re: Remen : Meridian 127 akitu 24-Apr-20 19:26


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