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We can argue til we are blue in the face about How blocks were moved and why, but we cannot deny the FACT that it took a highly sophisticated society to create and maintain the nationwide infrastructure that this discovery has revealed.

No such "infrastructure" has been "revealed" by Merer's Diary.

The simple fact is that Egyptologists (you) recognize no infrastructure. Even Dr Lehner has ripped the builders out of the builders village and condemned them to sleep on ramps. Therefore the "builders village" is no longer infrastructure. Across the board infrastructure for tombs and construction is noted by its absence. It mustta been ramps as proven by their absence since they were removed when it was completed. They mustta been tombs because no one would remove the bodies and loot unless they were valuable.

It was ALREADY KNOWN that stone for the cladding was hauled across the river because the stone originated at Turah and THERE WAS NO OTHER WAY TO GET IT TO GIZA, unless you believe aliens flew it the other way around the planet.

So what infrastructure are you even talking about? Where are the space ships, ramps, and cranes? Where did the builders sleep? What kind of air did they breath? It was YOUR idea that this discovery means something important or earth shaking. What exactly is it?

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This is where we can learn from them. This is the potential that Scott is obfuscating with his continuing nonsense and blatant disregard for the facts.

What have we learned? What do you believe there might be to learn? Why do you thing Scott Creighton is ignoring ANY FACT AT ALL? What fact do you believe he is ignoring? How is attacking assumptions an "obfuscation"? You (Egyptologists) believe you have all the answers so it's not necessary to say what you mean but just to exchange knowing winks. I've mentioned it before but EVERY SINGLE alt thinks you are wrong and I think you are wrong about EVERY SINGLE thing. Scott Creighton is looking at real evidence instead of beliefs and assumptions. He is looking at the assumptions that underlie Egyptological beliefs. Belief is enough for you and enough for Egyptology. It's not enough for Creight or most alts.

I don't think Creighton is obfuscating, I think you are. I think you and a cabal here are trying to silence opposition to Egyptological assumptions. I think you want to continue your MO of isolating alts and teaming up against them. I think you want to protect your assumptions by any means and will even go so far as to suggest that Merer's Diary proves you were right all along even though every single detail of this diary suggests you might be wrong about everything (including Merer's Diary). And then you pretend I'm off topic. You make me repeat the same damn arguments a million times because you REFUSE TO READ THEM OR CHALLENGE THEM and then you cry I'm repeating myself. Then people wonder why I say it is we who are the stinky footed bumpkins. I think people see what they expect and what they believe and it seems natural to you that primitive and superstitious people can make a pyramid with no infrastructure and lots of superstition.

I don't think it's right that I answer every single question put to me and Egyptology can't be bothered to defend their assumptions, answer eMails, or even to explain why they believe what they do without citing et als.

Man fears the pyramid, time fears man.



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Mainstream endorsement of Creighton’s HOAX . . . 1786 Martin Stower 30-Oct-19 11:13
Re: Mainstream endorsement of Creighton’s HOAX . . . 384 Barbelo 30-Oct-19 11:33
Re: Mainstream endorsement of Creighton’s HOAX . . . 353 Martin Stower 30-Oct-19 13:36
Re: Mainstream endorsement of Creighton’s HOAX . . . 213 Barbelo 30-Oct-19 20:28
Re: Mainstream endorsement of Creighton’s HOAX . . . 304 Thanos5150 30-Oct-19 16:10
Re: Mainstream endorsement of Creighton’s HOAX . . . 279 Warwick 30-Oct-19 20:07
Re: Mainstream endorsement of Creighton’s HOAX . . . 326 Martin Stower 30-Oct-19 20:57
Re: Mainstream endorsement of Creighton’s HOAX . . . 241 Corpuscles 31-Oct-19 01:07
Re: Mainstream endorsement of Creighton’s HOAX . . . 282 Martin Stower 31-Oct-19 11:07
Re: Mainstream endorsement of Creighton’s HOAX . . . 169 Merrell 22-Nov-19 16:09
Re: Mainstream endorsement of Creighton’s HOAX . . . 274 Martin Stower 31-Oct-19 13:34
Re: Mainstream endorsement of Creighton’s HOAX . . . 263 PB Bytes 19-Nov-19 00:24
Re: Mainstream endorsement of Creighton’s HOAX . . . 210 Thanos5150 19-Nov-19 16:55
Re: Mainstream endorsement of Creighton’s HOAX . . . 173 engbren 21-Nov-19 11:01
Re: Mainstream endorsement of Creighton’s HOAX . . . 192 Martin Stower 21-Nov-19 14:45
Re: Mainstream endorsement of Creighton’s HOAX . . . 161 engbren 22-Nov-19 11:05
Re: Mainstream endorsement of Creighton’s HOAX . . . 176 Martin Stower 22-Nov-19 15:06
Re: Mainstream endorsement of Creighton’s HOAX . . . 165 Hanslune 22-Nov-19 15:32
Re: Mainstream endorsement of Creighton’s HOAX . . . 189 sfbey 22-Nov-19 18:51
Re: Mainstream endorsement of Creighton’s HOAX . . . 158 Hanslune 23-Nov-19 01:19
2 responces . . 170 Warwick 22-Nov-19 19:32
Re: 2 responces . . 190 cladking 22-Nov-19 21:14
Re: 2 responces . . 193 Martin Stower 22-Nov-19 21:29
Re: 2 responces . . 257 cladking 23-Nov-19 02:14
Deleted the same attempts to get people to respond to him 173 Hanslune 23-Nov-19 04:04
Ah, how rare Cladking hijacking a thread 154 Hanslune 23-Nov-19 01:18
Re: 2 responces . . 163 Mayavitch 26-Nov-19 22:33
Re: 2 responces . . 130 Warwick 27-Nov-19 17:36
Re: Mainstream endorsement of Creighton’s HOAX . . . 170 PB Bytes 23-Nov-19 17:50
Re: Mainstream endorsement of Creighton’s HOAX . . . 172 Merrell 24-Nov-19 10:12
Re: Mainstream endorsement of Creighton’s HOAX . . . 198 Lee McGiffen 24-Nov-19 13:18
Re: Mainstream endorsement of Creighton’s HOAX . . . 185 Thanos5150 24-Nov-19 14:28
Re: Mainstream endorsement of Creighton’s HOAX . . . 158 Warwick 24-Nov-19 19:54
Re: Mainstream endorsement of Creighton’s HOAX . . . 168 Thanos5150 25-Nov-19 02:26
Re: Mainstream endorsement of Creighton’s HOAX . . . 149 engbren 25-Nov-19 06:36
Re: Mainstream endorsement of Creighton’s HOAX . . . 162 Thanos5150 25-Nov-19 16:11
Re: Mainstream endorsement of Creighton’s HOAX . . . 172 cladking 25-Nov-19 17:53
Re: Mainstream endorsement of Creighton’s HOAX . . . 238 cladking 26-Nov-19 20:02
Re: Mainstream endorsement of Creighton’s HOAX . . . 157 Merrell 25-Nov-19 09:54
Re: Mainstream endorsement of Creighton’s HOAX . . . 178 Thanos5150 25-Nov-19 16:50
Re: Mainstream endorsement of Creighton’s HOAX . . . 161 Merrell 25-Nov-19 22:45
Re: Mainstream endorsement of Creighton’s HOAX . . . 160 Merrell 26-Nov-19 17:51
Re: Mainstream endorsement of Creighton’s HOAX . . . 180 Thanos5150 27-Nov-19 06:19
Re: Mainstream endorsement of Creighton’s HOAX . . . 156 Corpuscles 28-Nov-19 05:47
Re: Mainstream endorsement of Creighton’s HOAX . . . 143 Thanos5150 28-Nov-19 17:01
Re: Mainstream endorsement of Creighton’s HOAX . . . 150 Merrell 28-Nov-19 10:25
Re: Mainstream endorsement of Creighton’s HOAX . . . 141 Merrell 28-Nov-19 14:01
Re: Mainstream endorsement of Creighton’s HOAX . . . 149 Thanos5150 28-Nov-19 17:11
Re: Mainstream endorsement of Creighton’s HOAX . . . 148 Merrell 28-Nov-19 17:48
Re: Mainstream endorsement of Creighton’s HOAX . . . 143 Thanos5150 28-Nov-19 18:53
Re: Mainstream endorsement of Creighton’s HOAX . . . 146 Thanos5150 28-Nov-19 20:20
Re: Mainstream endorsement of Creighton’s HOAX . . . 139 Corpuscles 28-Nov-19 21:31
Re: Mainstream endorsement of Creighton’s HOAX . . . 156 Thanos5150 29-Nov-19 00:19
Petrie’s Confusion Problem 204 Dr. Troglodyte 01-Dec-19 19:54
Re: Petrie’s Confusion Problem 207 Corpuscles 01-Dec-19 23:51
Re: Petrie’s Confusion Problem 138 Merrell 02-Dec-19 10:03
Re: Petrie’s Confusion Problem 172 Martin Stower 02-Dec-19 14:38
Re: Petrie’s Confusion Problem 142 Thanos5150 03-Dec-19 16:54
as far as that goes..... 126 Warwick 03-Dec-19 18:20
Re: Petrie’s Confusion Problem 179 Martin Stower 03-Dec-19 19:32
Tunnel vision 557 Warwick 04-Dec-19 20:18
Re: Mainstream endorsement of Creighton’s HOAX . . . 162 Martin Stower 28-Nov-19 21:05
Re: Mainstream endorsement of Creighton’s HOAX . . . 138 Thanos5150 28-Nov-19 21:51
Re: Mainstream endorsement of Creighton’s HOAX . . . 183 Martin Stower 28-Nov-19 22:28
“. . . lost until Zahi Hawass found it . . .” 223 Martin Stower 29-Nov-19 14:50
Re: “. . . lost until Zahi Hawass found it . . .” 145 Thanos5150 29-Nov-19 19:03
Re: “. . . lost until Zahi Hawass found it . . .” 137 Merrell 29-Nov-19 20:44
Re: “. . . lost until Zahi Hawass found it . . .” 144 Martin Stower 30-Nov-19 01:02
Re: “. . . lost until Zahi Hawass found it . . .” 144 Thanos5150 30-Nov-19 05:31
Re: “. . . lost until Zahi Hawass found it . . .” 154 Thanos5150 30-Nov-19 06:11
Re: “. . . lost until Zahi Hawass found it . . .” 150 Martin Stower 30-Nov-19 12:49
From the site of Andrew Bayuk (“Guardian”) 169 Martin Stower 30-Nov-19 14:38
Re: From the site of Andrew Bayuk (“Guardian”) 140 Thanos5150 30-Nov-19 16:34
Re: From the site of Andrew Bayuk (“Guardian”) 146 Martin Stower 30-Nov-19 16:57
Re: From the site of Andrew Bayuk (“Guardian”) 143 Martin Stower 30-Nov-19 17:43
Re: From the site of Andrew Bayuk (“Guardian”) 136 Corpuscles 30-Nov-19 18:31
Re: From the site of Andrew Bayuk (“Guardian”) 153 Martin Stower 30-Nov-19 18:46
Re: From the site of Andrew Bayuk (“Guardian”) 141 Corpuscles 30-Nov-19 18:55
Re: From the site of Andrew Bayuk (“Guardian”) 155 Martin Stower 30-Nov-19 19:18
Re: From the site of Andrew Bayuk (“Guardian”) 126 Corpuscles 30-Nov-19 23:04
Re: From the site of Andrew Bayuk (“Guardian”) 142 Merrell 30-Nov-19 21:22
Re: From the site of Andrew Bayuk (“Guardian”) 130 Corpuscles 30-Nov-19 23:12
Re: From the site of Andrew Bayuk (“Guardian”) 136 Thanos5150 01-Dec-19 00:25
Re: From the site of Andrew Bayuk (“Guardian”) 150 Martin Stower 01-Dec-19 00:54
Re: From the site of Andrew Bayuk (“Guardian”) 175 Corpuscles 01-Dec-19 01:37
Re: From the site of Andrew Bayuk (“Guardian”) 156 Martin Stower 01-Dec-19 14:18
Re: From the site of Andrew Bayuk (“Guardian”) 154 Martin Stower 01-Dec-19 14:55
Hawass: other possible slips 145 Merrell 01-Dec-19 15:28
Re: From the site of Andrew Bayuk (“Guardian”) 146 Martin Stower 01-Dec-19 19:16
Re: From the site of Andrew Bayuk (“Guardian”) 123 Corpuscles 01-Dec-19 23:32
Re: “. . . lost until Zahi Hawass found it . . .” 147 Thanos5150 30-Nov-19 16:38
Re: “. . . lost until Zahi Hawass found it . . .” 121 Merrell 30-Nov-19 18:14
Re: Mainstream endorsement of Creighton’s HOAX . . . 189 Merrell 25-Nov-19 23:57
Re: Mainstream endorsement of Creighton’s HOAX . . . 156 Thanos5150 26-Nov-19 16:38
Infrastructure . 163 Warwick 26-Nov-19 17:29
What Irony? n/t 150 cladking 26-Nov-19 20:05
do TRY being objective 136 Warwick 26-Nov-19 20:14
Re: do TRY being objective 158 cladking 26-Nov-19 20:25
so you choose subjective 150 Warwick 26-Nov-19 20:49
Re: so you choose subjective 149 cladking 26-Nov-19 23:17
Re: so you choose subjective 165 Warwick 27-Nov-19 02:51
So You Evade the Subject Again. 222 cladking 27-Nov-19 03:43
Re: So You Evade the Subject Again. 127 Warwick 27-Nov-19 17:29
Egyptologists Couldn't Find a Ramp with Both Hands. 128 cladking 27-Nov-19 18:11
Re: Egyptologists Couldn't Find a Ramp with Both Hands. 142 Warwick 27-Nov-19 18:21
Cladking hijacks another thread and makes it about ramps - again 119 Hanslune 27-Nov-19 23:39
Cladking logic: If you disagree with me you are an Egyptologist! 163 Hanslune 27-Nov-19 12:58
Re: Cladking logic: If you disagree with me you are an Egyptologist! 127 Warwick 27-Nov-19 17:41
A better idea 130 Hanslune 27-Nov-19 18:12
New from K-tel 142 Warwick 27-Nov-19 18:16
Re: New from K-tel 135 Hanslune 28-Nov-19 00:08
Re: New from K-tel 161 Lee McGiffen 28-Nov-19 01:46
Re: New from K-tel 264 cladking 28-Nov-19 01:57
Re: New from K-tel 135 Hanslune 28-Nov-19 16:40
Putting this to bed 130 Warwick 28-Nov-19 18:11
Re: so you choose subjective 131 Thanos5150 28-Nov-19 19:11
Re: so you choose subjective 123 Warwick 28-Nov-19 20:44
Classic unintended comedy! 180 Hanslune 27-Nov-19 13:04
Re: Infrastructure . 148 Thanos5150 27-Nov-19 00:15
Re: Mainstream endorsement of Creighton’s HOAX . . . 155 Merrell 26-Nov-19 18:56
Re: Mainstream endorsement of Creighton’s HOAX . . . 135 Merrell 28-Nov-19 22:48
Re: Mainstream endorsement of Creighton’s HOAX . . . 149 Thanos5150 29-Nov-19 03:37
Re: Mainstream endorsement of Creighton’s HOAX . . . 118 Merrell 29-Nov-19 20:26
Ahket . 165 Warwick 25-Nov-19 17:56
Re: Mainstream endorsement of Creighton’s HOAX . . . 199 Hanslune 24-Nov-19 16:27
Re: Mainstream endorsement of Creighton’s HOAX . . . 155 Thanos5150 25-Nov-19 00:31
Re: Mainstream endorsement of Creighton’s HOAX . . . 148 Hanslune 25-Nov-19 00:53
Re: Mainstream endorsement of Creighton’s HOAX . . . 158 Thanos5150 25-Nov-19 02:08
Re: Mainstream endorsement of Creighton’s HOAX . . . 149 Hanslune 25-Nov-19 05:49
Re: Mainstream endorsement of Creighton’s HOAX . . . 158 Merrell 25-Nov-19 10:12
Re: Mainstream endorsement of Creighton’s HOAX . . . 128 seasmith 25-Nov-19 22:09
Re: Mainstream endorsement of Creighton’s HOAX . . . 127 Warwick 25-Nov-19 22:31
Re: Mainstream endorsement of Creighton’s HOAX . . . 133 Merrell 25-Nov-19 22:35
Re: Mainstream endorsement of Creighton’s HOAX . . . 129 seasmith 25-Nov-19 23:11
Re: Mainstream endorsement of Creighton’s HOAX . . . 123 Warwick 26-Nov-19 20:23
Re: Mainstream endorsement of Creighton’s HOAX . . . 151 Martin Stower 26-Nov-19 14:35
Re: Mainstream endorsement of Creighton’s HOAX . . . 139 seasmith 27-Nov-19 02:48
Re: Mainstream endorsement of Creighton’s HOAX . . . 143 PB Bytes 24-Nov-19 16:59
Re: Mainstream endorsement of Creighton’s HOAX . . . 160 Thanos5150 24-Nov-19 14:07
Re: Mainstream endorsement of Creighton’s HOAX . . . 157 PB Bytes 24-Nov-19 17:21
not Graffiti 161 Warwick 24-Nov-19 19:47
Re: not Graffiti 167 Hanslune 24-Nov-19 21:51
Monkey see.. 175 Warwick 24-Nov-19 23:40
Re: not Graffiti 188 PB Bytes 24-Nov-19 21:58
Please, for God’s sake, . . . 819 Martin Stower 27-Nov-19 19:52
Mods can you stop Cladking from hijacking this thread? 169 Hanslune 27-Nov-19 23:41
Mod Warning > General OP Hijacking 207 Dr. Troglodyte 28-Nov-19 17:21


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