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Hanslune Wrote:
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> However there is a mention of Ankhhaf who is
> suppose to be Khufu's half brother.
>
>
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"Ankhhaf was a son of pharaoh Sneferu and
> an unknown wife.[2] Ankhhaf's tomb in Giza (G
> 7510) depicts his sister-wife Princess Hetepheres.
> Hetepheres was the eldest daughter of Sneferu and
> Queen Hetepheres I and thus Ankhhaf's half-sister.
> Hetepheres had the titles "eldest king's daughter
> of his body", "the one whom he loves" (sat nswt n
> khtf smst mrt.f) and "Priestess of Sneferu"
> (hmt-nTr Snfrw). Ankhhaf and Hetepheres had a
> daughter, who was the mother of their grandson
> Ankhetef."
>
> His tomb:
> [gizamedia.rc.fas.harvard.edu]
>
> He is 'thought' to have been bumping around circa
>  2613 to 2494 BC - a large range.

Gadzooks. From a thread HERE that you reacted to Hanslune a few weeks ago:

Ankhhaf (son of Sneferu), mentioned in Merer's Diary, is an interesting fellow who it appears died sometime during the reign of Khafre. A reassessment of the building of his mastaba G7510, the largest at Giza, suggests it was begun at the end of Khufu's reign in which construction continued though the reign of Khafre. The date given associated with the Merer Diary, the 13th cattle count, or "27th year of Khufu's reign", does not actually mention Khufu by name and does not come from Merer's Diary, but rather some administrative document fragments found nearby. According to Tallet:
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“This diary,” write Tallet and Marouard, “found in the same archaeological context as the administrative accounts dating to regnal Year 27, highlights two major facts: it confirms that Ankh-haf was effectively vizier and in charge of some of the final steps of the construction of the Great Pyramid at Giza, and it verifies that the pyramid was clearly at a final stage of the construction project at the very end of the Khufu’s reign.”

So it is these other indiscriminate documents that mention a "13th cattle count", which neither these documents of the Merer diary mention Khufu the person by name, with the only reason this is assumed to be Khufu's reign, for one, the "archaeological context" it is found which is ultimately the 4th Dynasty in general which I'd like to know what it is exactly that would place it specifically in Khufu's reign, but more importantly that it is also assumed the work performed at Akhet-Khufu, again the G1 pyramid complex and not the necessarily the pyramid itself, was being performed by Ankhhaf during Khufu's reign. The rub, however, is that there is no verification Ankhhaf was vizier under Khufu in which Reisner, among others, thought he was actually vizier under Khafre, perhaps as I would suggest the possibility under Djedefre as well. If we consider the year of the 11th cattle count in the Khufu I boat pit actually noting the reign of Djedefre, as some Egyptologists have suggested, it is no great stretch considering Ankhhaf was alive, perhaps as late as even working as a vizier under Khafre, that this may be reffering to the 13th cattle count of Djedfre's reign, not Khufu-a time when the boat pits and peripheral structures were being built after G1 had been completed.

Given the year of the 17th cattle count in the RC almost certainly refers to the 17th year of Khufu reign and not 34th, a single year for the cattle count and not two, it stands to reason the 11th year cattle count in the Khufu I boat pit, clearly associated with Djedfre, and the 13th year of the associated Merer diary documents, are also a single year count. All things considered, I suggest this speaks highly against these cattle counts belonging to the reign of Khufu, but rather to another pharaoh which the most likely candidate to me is Djedefre.


Repeated again HERE.

Originally from HERE.

Did you not actually read what you reacted to?



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 25-Nov-19 02:09 by Thanos5150.

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Mainstream endorsement of Creighton’s HOAX . . . 1785 Martin Stower 30-Oct-19 11:13
Re: Mainstream endorsement of Creighton’s HOAX . . . 382 Barbelo 30-Oct-19 11:33
Re: Mainstream endorsement of Creighton’s HOAX . . . 351 Martin Stower 30-Oct-19 13:36
Re: Mainstream endorsement of Creighton’s HOAX . . . 211 Barbelo 30-Oct-19 20:28
Re: Mainstream endorsement of Creighton’s HOAX . . . 301 Thanos5150 30-Oct-19 16:10
Re: Mainstream endorsement of Creighton’s HOAX . . . 277 Warwick 30-Oct-19 20:07
Re: Mainstream endorsement of Creighton’s HOAX . . . 324 Martin Stower 30-Oct-19 20:57
Re: Mainstream endorsement of Creighton’s HOAX . . . 239 Corpuscles 31-Oct-19 01:07
Re: Mainstream endorsement of Creighton’s HOAX . . . 280 Martin Stower 31-Oct-19 11:07
Re: Mainstream endorsement of Creighton’s HOAX . . . 167 Merrell 22-Nov-19 16:09
Re: Mainstream endorsement of Creighton’s HOAX . . . 272 Martin Stower 31-Oct-19 13:34
Re: Mainstream endorsement of Creighton’s HOAX . . . 261 PB Bytes 19-Nov-19 00:24
Re: Mainstream endorsement of Creighton’s HOAX . . . 208 Thanos5150 19-Nov-19 16:55
Re: Mainstream endorsement of Creighton’s HOAX . . . 171 engbren 21-Nov-19 11:01
Re: Mainstream endorsement of Creighton’s HOAX . . . 191 Martin Stower 21-Nov-19 14:45
Re: Mainstream endorsement of Creighton’s HOAX . . . 159 engbren 22-Nov-19 11:05
Re: Mainstream endorsement of Creighton’s HOAX . . . 174 Martin Stower 22-Nov-19 15:06
Re: Mainstream endorsement of Creighton’s HOAX . . . 163 Hanslune 22-Nov-19 15:32
Re: Mainstream endorsement of Creighton’s HOAX . . . 188 sfbey 22-Nov-19 18:51
Re: Mainstream endorsement of Creighton’s HOAX . . . 155 Hanslune 23-Nov-19 01:19
2 responces . . 168 Warwick 22-Nov-19 19:32
Re: 2 responces . . 188 cladking 22-Nov-19 21:14
Re: 2 responces . . 191 Martin Stower 22-Nov-19 21:29
Re: 2 responces . . 254 cladking 23-Nov-19 02:14
Deleted the same attempts to get people to respond to him 171 Hanslune 23-Nov-19 04:04
Ah, how rare Cladking hijacking a thread 151 Hanslune 23-Nov-19 01:18
Re: 2 responces . . 160 Mayavitch 26-Nov-19 22:33
Re: 2 responces . . 128 Warwick 27-Nov-19 17:36
Re: Mainstream endorsement of Creighton’s HOAX . . . 168 PB Bytes 23-Nov-19 17:50
Re: Mainstream endorsement of Creighton’s HOAX . . . 171 Merrell 24-Nov-19 10:12
Re: Mainstream endorsement of Creighton’s HOAX . . . 196 Lee McGiffen 24-Nov-19 13:18
Re: Mainstream endorsement of Creighton’s HOAX . . . 183 Thanos5150 24-Nov-19 14:28
Re: Mainstream endorsement of Creighton’s HOAX . . . 155 Warwick 24-Nov-19 19:54
Re: Mainstream endorsement of Creighton’s HOAX . . . 166 Thanos5150 25-Nov-19 02:26
Re: Mainstream endorsement of Creighton’s HOAX . . . 146 engbren 25-Nov-19 06:36
Re: Mainstream endorsement of Creighton’s HOAX . . . 160 Thanos5150 25-Nov-19 16:11
Re: Mainstream endorsement of Creighton’s HOAX . . . 170 cladking 25-Nov-19 17:53
Re: Mainstream endorsement of Creighton’s HOAX . . . 235 cladking 26-Nov-19 20:02
Re: Mainstream endorsement of Creighton’s HOAX . . . 156 Merrell 25-Nov-19 09:54
Re: Mainstream endorsement of Creighton’s HOAX . . . 176 Thanos5150 25-Nov-19 16:50
Re: Mainstream endorsement of Creighton’s HOAX . . . 159 Merrell 25-Nov-19 22:45
Re: Mainstream endorsement of Creighton’s HOAX . . . 159 Merrell 26-Nov-19 17:51
Re: Mainstream endorsement of Creighton’s HOAX . . . 178 Thanos5150 27-Nov-19 06:19
Re: Mainstream endorsement of Creighton’s HOAX . . . 154 Corpuscles 28-Nov-19 05:47
Re: Mainstream endorsement of Creighton’s HOAX . . . 141 Thanos5150 28-Nov-19 17:01
Re: Mainstream endorsement of Creighton’s HOAX . . . 148 Merrell 28-Nov-19 10:25
Re: Mainstream endorsement of Creighton’s HOAX . . . 140 Merrell 28-Nov-19 14:01
Re: Mainstream endorsement of Creighton’s HOAX . . . 146 Thanos5150 28-Nov-19 17:11
Re: Mainstream endorsement of Creighton’s HOAX . . . 147 Merrell 28-Nov-19 17:48
Re: Mainstream endorsement of Creighton’s HOAX . . . 141 Thanos5150 28-Nov-19 18:53
Re: Mainstream endorsement of Creighton’s HOAX . . . 143 Thanos5150 28-Nov-19 20:20
Re: Mainstream endorsement of Creighton’s HOAX . . . 137 Corpuscles 28-Nov-19 21:31
Re: Mainstream endorsement of Creighton’s HOAX . . . 154 Thanos5150 29-Nov-19 00:19
Petrie’s Confusion Problem 202 Dr. Troglodyte 01-Dec-19 19:54
Re: Petrie’s Confusion Problem 205 Corpuscles 01-Dec-19 23:51
Re: Petrie’s Confusion Problem 137 Merrell 02-Dec-19 10:03
Re: Petrie’s Confusion Problem 169 Martin Stower 02-Dec-19 14:38
Re: Petrie’s Confusion Problem 140 Thanos5150 03-Dec-19 16:54
as far as that goes..... 123 Warwick 03-Dec-19 18:20
Re: Petrie’s Confusion Problem 176 Martin Stower 03-Dec-19 19:32
Tunnel vision 555 Warwick 04-Dec-19 20:18
Re: Mainstream endorsement of Creighton’s HOAX . . . 161 Martin Stower 28-Nov-19 21:05
Re: Mainstream endorsement of Creighton’s HOAX . . . 136 Thanos5150 28-Nov-19 21:51
Re: Mainstream endorsement of Creighton’s HOAX . . . 179 Martin Stower 28-Nov-19 22:28
“. . . lost until Zahi Hawass found it . . .” 220 Martin Stower 29-Nov-19 14:50
Re: “. . . lost until Zahi Hawass found it . . .” 143 Thanos5150 29-Nov-19 19:03
Re: “. . . lost until Zahi Hawass found it . . .” 136 Merrell 29-Nov-19 20:44
Re: “. . . lost until Zahi Hawass found it . . .” 142 Martin Stower 30-Nov-19 01:02
Re: “. . . lost until Zahi Hawass found it . . .” 142 Thanos5150 30-Nov-19 05:31
Re: “. . . lost until Zahi Hawass found it . . .” 152 Thanos5150 30-Nov-19 06:11
Re: “. . . lost until Zahi Hawass found it . . .” 149 Martin Stower 30-Nov-19 12:49
From the site of Andrew Bayuk (“Guardian”) 166 Martin Stower 30-Nov-19 14:38
Re: From the site of Andrew Bayuk (“Guardian”) 138 Thanos5150 30-Nov-19 16:34
Re: From the site of Andrew Bayuk (“Guardian”) 144 Martin Stower 30-Nov-19 16:57
Re: From the site of Andrew Bayuk (“Guardian”) 142 Martin Stower 30-Nov-19 17:43
Re: From the site of Andrew Bayuk (“Guardian”) 132 Corpuscles 30-Nov-19 18:31
Re: From the site of Andrew Bayuk (“Guardian”) 152 Martin Stower 30-Nov-19 18:46
Re: From the site of Andrew Bayuk (“Guardian”) 139 Corpuscles 30-Nov-19 18:55
Re: From the site of Andrew Bayuk (“Guardian”) 153 Martin Stower 30-Nov-19 19:18
Re: From the site of Andrew Bayuk (“Guardian”) 124 Corpuscles 30-Nov-19 23:04
Re: From the site of Andrew Bayuk (“Guardian”) 140 Merrell 30-Nov-19 21:22
Re: From the site of Andrew Bayuk (“Guardian”) 128 Corpuscles 30-Nov-19 23:12
Re: From the site of Andrew Bayuk (“Guardian”) 134 Thanos5150 01-Dec-19 00:25
Re: From the site of Andrew Bayuk (“Guardian”) 147 Martin Stower 01-Dec-19 00:54
Re: From the site of Andrew Bayuk (“Guardian”) 172 Corpuscles 01-Dec-19 01:37
Re: From the site of Andrew Bayuk (“Guardian”) 153 Martin Stower 01-Dec-19 14:18
Re: From the site of Andrew Bayuk (“Guardian”) 151 Martin Stower 01-Dec-19 14:55
Hawass: other possible slips 144 Merrell 01-Dec-19 15:28
Re: From the site of Andrew Bayuk (“Guardian”) 144 Martin Stower 01-Dec-19 19:16
Re: From the site of Andrew Bayuk (“Guardian”) 120 Corpuscles 01-Dec-19 23:32
Re: “. . . lost until Zahi Hawass found it . . .” 144 Thanos5150 30-Nov-19 16:38
Re: “. . . lost until Zahi Hawass found it . . .” 120 Merrell 30-Nov-19 18:14
Re: Mainstream endorsement of Creighton’s HOAX . . . 187 Merrell 25-Nov-19 23:57
Re: Mainstream endorsement of Creighton’s HOAX . . . 154 Thanos5150 26-Nov-19 16:38
Infrastructure . 161 Warwick 26-Nov-19 17:29
What Irony? n/t 147 cladking 26-Nov-19 20:05
do TRY being objective 134 Warwick 26-Nov-19 20:14
Re: do TRY being objective 156 cladking 26-Nov-19 20:25
so you choose subjective 147 Warwick 26-Nov-19 20:49
Re: so you choose subjective 146 cladking 26-Nov-19 23:17
Re: so you choose subjective 161 Warwick 27-Nov-19 02:51
So You Evade the Subject Again. 220 cladking 27-Nov-19 03:43
Re: So You Evade the Subject Again. 125 Warwick 27-Nov-19 17:29
Egyptologists Couldn't Find a Ramp with Both Hands. 124 cladking 27-Nov-19 18:11
Re: Egyptologists Couldn't Find a Ramp with Both Hands. 140 Warwick 27-Nov-19 18:21
Cladking hijacks another thread and makes it about ramps - again 116 Hanslune 27-Nov-19 23:39
Cladking logic: If you disagree with me you are an Egyptologist! 160 Hanslune 27-Nov-19 12:58
Re: Cladking logic: If you disagree with me you are an Egyptologist! 125 Warwick 27-Nov-19 17:41
A better idea 128 Hanslune 27-Nov-19 18:12
New from K-tel 139 Warwick 27-Nov-19 18:16
Re: New from K-tel 133 Hanslune 28-Nov-19 00:08
Re: New from K-tel 160 Lee McGiffen 28-Nov-19 01:46
Re: New from K-tel 262 cladking 28-Nov-19 01:57
Re: New from K-tel 133 Hanslune 28-Nov-19 16:40
Putting this to bed 128 Warwick 28-Nov-19 18:11
Re: so you choose subjective 129 Thanos5150 28-Nov-19 19:11
Re: so you choose subjective 121 Warwick 28-Nov-19 20:44
Classic unintended comedy! 178 Hanslune 27-Nov-19 13:04
Re: Infrastructure . 144 Thanos5150 27-Nov-19 00:15
Re: Mainstream endorsement of Creighton’s HOAX . . . 153 Merrell 26-Nov-19 18:56
Re: Mainstream endorsement of Creighton’s HOAX . . . 134 Merrell 28-Nov-19 22:48
Re: Mainstream endorsement of Creighton’s HOAX . . . 147 Thanos5150 29-Nov-19 03:37
Re: Mainstream endorsement of Creighton’s HOAX . . . 116 Merrell 29-Nov-19 20:26
Ahket . 163 Warwick 25-Nov-19 17:56
Re: Mainstream endorsement of Creighton’s HOAX . . . 197 Hanslune 24-Nov-19 16:27
Re: Mainstream endorsement of Creighton’s HOAX . . . 152 Thanos5150 25-Nov-19 00:31
Re: Mainstream endorsement of Creighton’s HOAX . . . 145 Hanslune 25-Nov-19 00:53
Re: Mainstream endorsement of Creighton’s HOAX . . . 154 Thanos5150 25-Nov-19 02:08
Re: Mainstream endorsement of Creighton’s HOAX . . . 147 Hanslune 25-Nov-19 05:49
Re: Mainstream endorsement of Creighton’s HOAX . . . 157 Merrell 25-Nov-19 10:12
Re: Mainstream endorsement of Creighton’s HOAX . . . 126 seasmith 25-Nov-19 22:09
Re: Mainstream endorsement of Creighton’s HOAX . . . 125 Warwick 25-Nov-19 22:31
Re: Mainstream endorsement of Creighton’s HOAX . . . 132 Merrell 25-Nov-19 22:35
Re: Mainstream endorsement of Creighton’s HOAX . . . 126 seasmith 25-Nov-19 23:11
Re: Mainstream endorsement of Creighton’s HOAX . . . 121 Warwick 26-Nov-19 20:23
Re: Mainstream endorsement of Creighton’s HOAX . . . 149 Martin Stower 26-Nov-19 14:35
Re: Mainstream endorsement of Creighton’s HOAX . . . 134 seasmith 27-Nov-19 02:48
Re: Mainstream endorsement of Creighton’s HOAX . . . 141 PB Bytes 24-Nov-19 16:59
Re: Mainstream endorsement of Creighton’s HOAX . . . 157 Thanos5150 24-Nov-19 14:07
Re: Mainstream endorsement of Creighton’s HOAX . . . 154 PB Bytes 24-Nov-19 17:21
not Graffiti 159 Warwick 24-Nov-19 19:47
Re: not Graffiti 164 Hanslune 24-Nov-19 21:51
Monkey see.. 173 Warwick 24-Nov-19 23:40
Re: not Graffiti 185 PB Bytes 24-Nov-19 21:58
Please, for God’s sake, . . . 816 Martin Stower 27-Nov-19 19:52
Mods can you stop Cladking from hijacking this thread? 167 Hanslune 27-Nov-19 23:41
Mod Warning > General OP Hijacking 205 Dr. Troglodyte 28-Nov-19 17:21


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