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Hanslune Wrote:
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> However there is a mention of Ankhhaf who is
> suppose to be Khufu's half brother.
>
>
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"Ankhhaf was a son of pharaoh Sneferu and
> an unknown wife.[2] Ankhhaf's tomb in Giza (G
> 7510) depicts his sister-wife Princess Hetepheres.
> Hetepheres was the eldest daughter of Sneferu and
> Queen Hetepheres I and thus Ankhhaf's half-sister.
> Hetepheres had the titles "eldest king's daughter
> of his body", "the one whom he loves" (sat nswt n
> khtf smst mrt.f) and "Priestess of Sneferu"
> (hmt-nTr Snfrw). Ankhhaf and Hetepheres had a
> daughter, who was the mother of their grandson
> Ankhetef."
>
> His tomb:
> [gizamedia.rc.fas.harvard.edu]
>
> He is 'thought' to have been bumping around circa
>  2613 to 2494 BC - a large range.

Gadzooks. From a thread HERE that you reacted to Hanslune a few weeks ago:

Ankhhaf (son of Sneferu), mentioned in Merer's Diary, is an interesting fellow who it appears died sometime during the reign of Khafre. A reassessment of the building of his mastaba G7510, the largest at Giza, suggests it was begun at the end of Khufu's reign in which construction continued though the reign of Khafre. The date given associated with the Merer Diary, the 13th cattle count, or "27th year of Khufu's reign", does not actually mention Khufu by name and does not come from Merer's Diary, but rather some administrative document fragments found nearby. According to Tallet:
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“This diary,” write Tallet and Marouard, “found in the same archaeological context as the administrative accounts dating to regnal Year 27, highlights two major facts: it confirms that Ankh-haf was effectively vizier and in charge of some of the final steps of the construction of the Great Pyramid at Giza, and it verifies that the pyramid was clearly at a final stage of the construction project at the very end of the Khufu’s reign.”

So it is these other indiscriminate documents that mention a "13th cattle count", which neither these documents of the Merer diary mention Khufu the person by name, with the only reason this is assumed to be Khufu's reign, for one, the "archaeological context" it is found which is ultimately the 4th Dynasty in general which I'd like to know what it is exactly that would place it specifically in Khufu's reign, but more importantly that it is also assumed the work performed at Akhet-Khufu, again the G1 pyramid complex and not the necessarily the pyramid itself, was being performed by Ankhhaf during Khufu's reign. The rub, however, is that there is no verification Ankhhaf was vizier under Khufu in which Reisner, among others, thought he was actually vizier under Khafre, perhaps as I would suggest the possibility under Djedefre as well. If we consider the year of the 11th cattle count in the Khufu I boat pit actually noting the reign of Djedefre, as some Egyptologists have suggested, it is no great stretch considering Ankhhaf was alive, perhaps as late as even working as a vizier under Khafre, that this may be reffering to the 13th cattle count of Djedfre's reign, not Khufu-a time when the boat pits and peripheral structures were being built after G1 had been completed.

Given the year of the 17th cattle count in the RC almost certainly refers to the 17th year of Khufu reign and not 34th, a single year for the cattle count and not two, it stands to reason the 11th year cattle count in the Khufu I boat pit, clearly associated with Djedfre, and the 13th year of the associated Merer diary documents, are also a single year count. All things considered, I suggest this speaks highly against these cattle counts belonging to the reign of Khufu, but rather to another pharaoh which the most likely candidate to me is Djedefre.


Repeated again HERE.

Originally from HERE.

Did you not actually read what you reacted to?



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 25-Nov-19 02:09 by Thanos5150.

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Mainstream endorsement of Creighton’s HOAX . . . 1891 Martin Stower 30-Oct-19 11:13
Re: Mainstream endorsement of Creighton’s HOAX . . . 419 Barbelo 30-Oct-19 11:33
Re: Mainstream endorsement of Creighton’s HOAX . . . 391 Martin Stower 30-Oct-19 13:36
Re: Mainstream endorsement of Creighton’s HOAX . . . 249 Barbelo 30-Oct-19 20:28
Re: Mainstream endorsement of Creighton’s HOAX . . . 335 Thanos5150 30-Oct-19 16:10
Re: Mainstream endorsement of Creighton’s HOAX . . . 316 Warwick 30-Oct-19 20:07
Re: Mainstream endorsement of Creighton’s HOAX . . . 362 Martin Stower 30-Oct-19 20:57
Re: Mainstream endorsement of Creighton’s HOAX . . . 279 Corpuscles 31-Oct-19 01:07
Re: Mainstream endorsement of Creighton’s HOAX . . . 327 Martin Stower 31-Oct-19 11:07
Re: Mainstream endorsement of Creighton’s HOAX . . . 204 Merrell 22-Nov-19 16:09
Re: Mainstream endorsement of Creighton’s HOAX . . . 308 Martin Stower 31-Oct-19 13:34
Re: Mainstream endorsement of Creighton’s HOAX . . . 300 PB Bytes 19-Nov-19 00:24
Re: Mainstream endorsement of Creighton’s HOAX . . . 242 Thanos5150 19-Nov-19 16:55
Re: Mainstream endorsement of Creighton’s HOAX . . . 208 engbren 21-Nov-19 11:01
Re: Mainstream endorsement of Creighton’s HOAX . . . 230 Martin Stower 21-Nov-19 14:45
Re: Mainstream endorsement of Creighton’s HOAX . . . 192 engbren 22-Nov-19 11:05
Re: Mainstream endorsement of Creighton’s HOAX . . . 217 Martin Stower 22-Nov-19 15:06
Re: Mainstream endorsement of Creighton’s HOAX . . . 199 Hanslune 22-Nov-19 15:32
Re: Mainstream endorsement of Creighton’s HOAX . . . 237 sfbey 22-Nov-19 18:51
Re: Mainstream endorsement of Creighton’s HOAX . . . 195 Hanslune 23-Nov-19 01:19
2 responces . . 201 Warwick 22-Nov-19 19:32
Re: 2 responces . . 221 cladking 22-Nov-19 21:14
Re: 2 responces . . 226 Martin Stower 22-Nov-19 21:29
Re: 2 responces . . 296 cladking 23-Nov-19 02:14
Deleted the same attempts to get people to respond to him 205 Hanslune 23-Nov-19 04:04
Ah, how rare Cladking hijacking a thread 185 Hanslune 23-Nov-19 01:18
Re: 2 responces . . 194 Mayavitch 26-Nov-19 22:33
Re: 2 responces . . 161 Warwick 27-Nov-19 17:36
Re: Mainstream endorsement of Creighton’s HOAX . . . 202 PB Bytes 23-Nov-19 17:50
Re: Mainstream endorsement of Creighton’s HOAX . . . 205 Merrell 24-Nov-19 10:12
Re: Mainstream endorsement of Creighton’s HOAX . . . 233 Lee McGiffen 24-Nov-19 13:18
Re: Mainstream endorsement of Creighton’s HOAX . . . 218 Thanos5150 24-Nov-19 14:28
Re: Mainstream endorsement of Creighton’s HOAX . . . 191 Warwick 24-Nov-19 19:54
Re: Mainstream endorsement of Creighton’s HOAX . . . 201 Thanos5150 25-Nov-19 02:26
Re: Mainstream endorsement of Creighton’s HOAX . . . 180 engbren 25-Nov-19 06:36
Re: Mainstream endorsement of Creighton’s HOAX . . . 195 Thanos5150 25-Nov-19 16:11
Re: Mainstream endorsement of Creighton’s HOAX . . . 204 cladking 25-Nov-19 17:53
Re: Mainstream endorsement of Creighton’s HOAX . . . 274 cladking 26-Nov-19 20:02
Re: Mainstream endorsement of Creighton’s HOAX . . . 191 Merrell 25-Nov-19 09:54
Re: Mainstream endorsement of Creighton’s HOAX . . . 210 Thanos5150 25-Nov-19 16:50
Re: Mainstream endorsement of Creighton’s HOAX . . . 192 Merrell 25-Nov-19 22:45
Re: Mainstream endorsement of Creighton’s HOAX . . . 206 Merrell 26-Nov-19 17:51
Re: Mainstream endorsement of Creighton’s HOAX . . . 219 Thanos5150 27-Nov-19 06:19
Re: Mainstream endorsement of Creighton’s HOAX . . . 185 Corpuscles 28-Nov-19 05:47
Re: Mainstream endorsement of Creighton’s HOAX . . . 175 Thanos5150 28-Nov-19 17:01
Re: Mainstream endorsement of Creighton’s HOAX . . . 182 Merrell 28-Nov-19 10:25
Re: Mainstream endorsement of Creighton’s HOAX . . . 176 Merrell 28-Nov-19 14:01
Re: Mainstream endorsement of Creighton’s HOAX . . . 186 Thanos5150 28-Nov-19 17:11
Re: Mainstream endorsement of Creighton’s HOAX . . . 178 Merrell 28-Nov-19 17:48
Re: Mainstream endorsement of Creighton’s HOAX . . . 172 Thanos5150 28-Nov-19 18:53
Re: Mainstream endorsement of Creighton’s HOAX . . . 179 Thanos5150 28-Nov-19 20:20
Re: Mainstream endorsement of Creighton’s HOAX . . . 171 Corpuscles 28-Nov-19 21:31
Re: Mainstream endorsement of Creighton’s HOAX . . . 186 Thanos5150 29-Nov-19 00:19
Petrie’s Confusion Problem 244 Dr. Troglodyte 01-Dec-19 19:54
Re: Petrie’s Confusion Problem 243 Corpuscles 01-Dec-19 23:51
Re: Petrie’s Confusion Problem 173 Merrell 02-Dec-19 10:03
Re: Petrie’s Confusion Problem 203 Martin Stower 02-Dec-19 14:38
Re: Petrie’s Confusion Problem 173 Thanos5150 03-Dec-19 16:54
as far as that goes..... 161 Warwick 03-Dec-19 18:20
Re: Petrie’s Confusion Problem 217 Martin Stower 03-Dec-19 19:32
Tunnel vision 735 Warwick 04-Dec-19 20:18
Re: Mainstream endorsement of Creighton’s HOAX . . . 197 Martin Stower 28-Nov-19 21:05
Re: Mainstream endorsement of Creighton’s HOAX . . . 171 Thanos5150 28-Nov-19 21:51
Re: Mainstream endorsement of Creighton’s HOAX . . . 222 Martin Stower 28-Nov-19 22:28
“. . . lost until Zahi Hawass found it . . .” 267 Martin Stower 29-Nov-19 14:50
Re: “. . . lost until Zahi Hawass found it . . .” 179 Thanos5150 29-Nov-19 19:03
Re: “. . . lost until Zahi Hawass found it . . .” 169 Merrell 29-Nov-19 20:44
Re: “. . . lost until Zahi Hawass found it . . .” 175 Martin Stower 30-Nov-19 01:02
Re: “. . . lost until Zahi Hawass found it . . .” 176 Thanos5150 30-Nov-19 05:31
Re: “. . . lost until Zahi Hawass found it . . .” 186 Thanos5150 30-Nov-19 06:11
Re: “. . . lost until Zahi Hawass found it . . .” 192 Martin Stower 30-Nov-19 12:49
From the site of Andrew Bayuk (“Guardian”) 211 Martin Stower 30-Nov-19 14:38
Re: From the site of Andrew Bayuk (“Guardian”) 170 Thanos5150 30-Nov-19 16:34
Re: From the site of Andrew Bayuk (“Guardian”) 180 Martin Stower 30-Nov-19 16:57
Re: From the site of Andrew Bayuk (“Guardian”) 176 Martin Stower 30-Nov-19 17:43
Re: From the site of Andrew Bayuk (“Guardian”) 168 Corpuscles 30-Nov-19 18:31
Re: From the site of Andrew Bayuk (“Guardian”) 190 Martin Stower 30-Nov-19 18:46
Re: From the site of Andrew Bayuk (“Guardian”) 174 Corpuscles 30-Nov-19 18:55
Re: From the site of Andrew Bayuk (“Guardian”) 191 Martin Stower 30-Nov-19 19:18
Re: From the site of Andrew Bayuk (“Guardian”) 156 Corpuscles 30-Nov-19 23:04
Re: From the site of Andrew Bayuk (“Guardian”) 174 Merrell 30-Nov-19 21:22
Re: From the site of Andrew Bayuk (“Guardian”) 158 Corpuscles 30-Nov-19 23:12
Re: From the site of Andrew Bayuk (“Guardian”) 164 Thanos5150 01-Dec-19 00:25
Re: From the site of Andrew Bayuk (“Guardian”) 186 Martin Stower 01-Dec-19 00:54
Re: From the site of Andrew Bayuk (“Guardian”) 209 Corpuscles 01-Dec-19 01:37
Re: From the site of Andrew Bayuk (“Guardian”) 189 Martin Stower 01-Dec-19 14:18
Re: From the site of Andrew Bayuk (“Guardian”) 190 Martin Stower 01-Dec-19 14:55
Hawass: other possible slips 180 Merrell 01-Dec-19 15:28
Re: From the site of Andrew Bayuk (“Guardian”) 180 Martin Stower 01-Dec-19 19:16
Re: From the site of Andrew Bayuk (“Guardian”) 157 Corpuscles 01-Dec-19 23:32
Re: “. . . lost until Zahi Hawass found it . . .” 182 Thanos5150 30-Nov-19 16:38
Re: “. . . lost until Zahi Hawass found it . . .” 152 Merrell 30-Nov-19 18:14
Re: Mainstream endorsement of Creighton’s HOAX . . . 224 Merrell 25-Nov-19 23:57
Re: Mainstream endorsement of Creighton’s HOAX . . . 190 Thanos5150 26-Nov-19 16:38
Infrastructure . 197 Warwick 26-Nov-19 17:29
What Irony? n/t 185 cladking 26-Nov-19 20:05
do TRY being objective 167 Warwick 26-Nov-19 20:14
Re: do TRY being objective 191 cladking 26-Nov-19 20:25
so you choose subjective 181 Warwick 26-Nov-19 20:49
Re: so you choose subjective 179 cladking 26-Nov-19 23:17
Re: so you choose subjective 195 Warwick 27-Nov-19 02:51
So You Evade the Subject Again. 255 cladking 27-Nov-19 03:43
Re: So You Evade the Subject Again. 155 Warwick 27-Nov-19 17:29
Egyptologists Couldn't Find a Ramp with Both Hands. 157 cladking 27-Nov-19 18:11
Re: Egyptologists Couldn't Find a Ramp with Both Hands. 173 Warwick 27-Nov-19 18:21
Cladking hijacks another thread and makes it about ramps - again 143 Hanslune 27-Nov-19 23:39
Cladking logic: If you disagree with me you are an Egyptologist! 190 Hanslune 27-Nov-19 12:58
Re: Cladking logic: If you disagree with me you are an Egyptologist! 153 Warwick 27-Nov-19 17:41
A better idea 162 Hanslune 27-Nov-19 18:12
New from K-tel 174 Warwick 27-Nov-19 18:16
Re: New from K-tel 160 Hanslune 28-Nov-19 00:08
Re: New from K-tel 188 Lee McGiffen 28-Nov-19 01:46
Re: New from K-tel 292 cladking 28-Nov-19 01:57
Re: New from K-tel 163 Hanslune 28-Nov-19 16:40
Putting this to bed 158 Warwick 28-Nov-19 18:11
Re: so you choose subjective 157 Thanos5150 28-Nov-19 19:11
Re: so you choose subjective 153 Warwick 28-Nov-19 20:44
Classic unintended comedy! 212 Hanslune 27-Nov-19 13:04
Re: Infrastructure . 174 Thanos5150 27-Nov-19 00:15
Re: Mainstream endorsement of Creighton’s HOAX . . . 188 Merrell 26-Nov-19 18:56
Re: Mainstream endorsement of Creighton’s HOAX . . . 162 Merrell 28-Nov-19 22:48
Re: Mainstream endorsement of Creighton’s HOAX . . . 183 Thanos5150 29-Nov-19 03:37
Re: Mainstream endorsement of Creighton’s HOAX . . . 146 Merrell 29-Nov-19 20:26
Ahket . 192 Warwick 25-Nov-19 17:56
Re: Mainstream endorsement of Creighton’s HOAX . . . 231 Hanslune 24-Nov-19 16:27
Re: Mainstream endorsement of Creighton’s HOAX . . . 182 Thanos5150 25-Nov-19 00:31
Re: Mainstream endorsement of Creighton’s HOAX . . . 180 Hanslune 25-Nov-19 00:53
Re: Mainstream endorsement of Creighton’s HOAX . . . 186 Thanos5150 25-Nov-19 02:08
Re: Mainstream endorsement of Creighton’s HOAX . . . 185 Hanslune 25-Nov-19 05:49
Re: Mainstream endorsement of Creighton’s HOAX . . . 188 Merrell 25-Nov-19 10:12
Re: Mainstream endorsement of Creighton’s HOAX . . . 153 seasmith 25-Nov-19 22:09
Re: Mainstream endorsement of Creighton’s HOAX . . . 155 Warwick 25-Nov-19 22:31
Re: Mainstream endorsement of Creighton’s HOAX . . . 163 Merrell 25-Nov-19 22:35
Re: Mainstream endorsement of Creighton’s HOAX . . . 158 seasmith 25-Nov-19 23:11
Re: Mainstream endorsement of Creighton’s HOAX . . . 151 Warwick 26-Nov-19 20:23
Re: Mainstream endorsement of Creighton’s HOAX . . . 176 Martin Stower 26-Nov-19 14:35
Re: Mainstream endorsement of Creighton’s HOAX . . . 168 seasmith 27-Nov-19 02:48
Re: Mainstream endorsement of Creighton’s HOAX . . . 170 PB Bytes 24-Nov-19 16:59
Re: Mainstream endorsement of Creighton’s HOAX . . . 188 Thanos5150 24-Nov-19 14:07
Re: Mainstream endorsement of Creighton’s HOAX . . . 186 PB Bytes 24-Nov-19 17:21
not Graffiti 189 Warwick 24-Nov-19 19:47
Re: not Graffiti 196 Hanslune 24-Nov-19 21:51
Monkey see.. 202 Warwick 24-Nov-19 23:40
Re: not Graffiti 215 PB Bytes 24-Nov-19 21:58
Please, for God’s sake, . . . 848 Martin Stower 27-Nov-19 19:52
Mods can you stop Cladking from hijacking this thread? 198 Hanslune 27-Nov-19 23:41
Mod Warning > General OP Hijacking 238 Dr. Troglodyte 28-Nov-19 17:21


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