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Hi Hendrik,

I don’t believe the Vth dynasty Pharoahs are at all important in the story as I outlined. This is one possible interpretation:

[grahamhancock.com]

I’m not confident of it yet to fold it into the OP but think that Osiris rebirth is actually related to the rising sun. Refer to.


María Rosa Valdesogo, Ancient Egyptian Union and Rebirth of Re and Osiris, accessed from [www.mariarosavaldesogo.com]


Regards,
BC



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