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Re: Unlocking the Westcar Papyrus story of the Wonder of Djadjaemankh
Author: engbren ()
Date: August 07, 2019 01:16PM
I have just realised that the connection to Thoeris in the story of Djadjaemankh is a reference to Reret or Isis Djamet which Lull and Belmonte identifies in table 6.1. It is possible to get Reret / Reret Weret / Isis Djamet into the image with the giant, the boat, the fish and the nets.
Curious the similarity of Isis Djamet to Ruddjedet the mother of the three children in the story of Djedi.

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