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Hi Lee

I have had for many days a nagging suspicion that I might be one of the "ect ect" [sic] you refer to albeit I would likely be way down the list well below the 'totally insignificant demarcation zone', of any such list , but nevertheless therefore feel a little (strangely) obliged to make effort to comment.

However, firstly, how do I know that in responding /replying to you that I am not committing and exacerbating the undesirable error of potentially 'beating up' on low lying fringe fruit?
Is there a list of such? If so, could you post it in FULL.

Unfortunately, you will be disappointed to read I am not a fan of either; Kuhn ; or Celebrity TV science presenter Prof Brian Cox. These apparently are of "significant consequence" worthy of elaborate reply and attention. Perhaps that is just my good fortune?

I think your OP presumes far too much! The presumption that only fringe alternate theorists are attracted to GHMB and or that any original such notions that attracted such to GHMB are still held, passionately and clearly enough, to be worthy of current extensive presentation?

The ones who get 'beat up' are specifically those who constantly "beat up", their own unique beat up.

They are the dogmatic, self promotional, self important, self delusional, often specifically unique sensationalistic fantasisers lacking in complete knowledge of their subject or exhibit wilful ignorance with intention to deceive. Further their shear amount of persistent repetition finally after considerable effort to ignore, snap the "no reply - tolerance - circuit breaker" TM
(I assume you have one of these clever devices they are critical for the early detection of both "low lying fringe alt fruit-loops" and also highlight items of "significant consequence". Sadly, I cant source one here down under, and Amazon tells they are "not available" to me.

After several reads and inclusive of later development/comment I think I get what you are trying to suggest.

You go to extensive extraordinary effort to create interesting , informative, thought provoking threads which do not seem to attract the level of attention and particularly contribution, you believe they deserve and concurrently are fascinated that lesser loonies grab attention?

I think you ought be personally internally encouraged in that such contributions are not so mundane nor repetitive to be subject to hardly any ridicule by the rank and file wider audience, or subject to contra argument BUT RATHER -IS WIDELY RESPECTED AND VERY MUCH APPRECIATED by most (including the fringe fruit-loops)!!!
There is respect for the time, and research effort, it takes that others may not have to give nor required motivation.

Yes, it would be good if more did likewise, but that cannot be demanded or mandated, especially from largely anonymous strangers merely wanting to chat learn or uncommitted hobby passtime. (sympathy & personal apology offered).

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Thanos5150 to eyeofhorus33
I appreciate that, but the point is not "me", however, not in the least, but rather why do credible subjects of consequence garner so little participation whereas fringe nonsense has such a hold not just on believers, but those who argue against them?

Surely, that is not really a question (of deep fascination or mystery) but rather a comment/statement?

Why does a 15sec video grab of a massive car accident at Indy 500 or one of the GrandPrixs get prime time news play around the world?
It is entertainment to mass audience, it is sensational, it provokes emotion... ect ect [sic]

If as merely a poor example - I was writing a well researched book on Mesopotamian influence on pre Dynastic Egypt AND I WANTED maximum reaction I would include some item that appealed toa wide disperse spectrum of people with emotional involvement in such and make it deliberately controversial. EG something like the Biblical story of the patriarch Abram Abraham was a mythical allegory of a long standing vage memory of the establishment of the AE dynasties by a Mesopotamian king.

They would be screaming the house down!!!
The religious nutters would issue one of those 'kill on site' orders or how a PC conference about the horrible disgraceful misrepresentation of "the truth"
Atheist's would pile in to say there WAS NOT ANY SUCH individual

ect ect [sic]

Cheers
Steve

Footnote: Not to be a pRi ck but the correct abbreviation for et cetera is "etc"
Unfamiliar with American spelling of "reffering" , but tip , I doubt it has two "f"s
SEE -your stuff is (when time permits) read in absolute fine detail! But many of us are not worthy of adding or subtracting from it, other than a few hopefully helpful tips?

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Mainstream and Alternative Ideas 2043 Thanos5150 05-Jul-19 02:13
Re: Mainstream and Alternative Ideas 452 cladking 05-Jul-19 03:29
Re: Mainstream and Alternative Ideas 396 Thanos5150 05-Jul-19 04:07
Re: Mainstream and Alternative Ideas 422 Susan Doris 05-Jul-19 05:16
Re: Mainstream and Alternative Ideas 372 engbren 05-Jul-19 12:45
Re: Mainstream and Alternative Ideas 340 Thanos5150 06-Jul-19 01:19
Re: Mainstream and Alternative Ideas 339 engbren 08-Jul-19 13:54
Re: Mainstream and Alternative Ideas 360 Thanos5150 05-Jul-19 14:56
Re: Mainstream and Alternative Ideas 356 cladking 05-Jul-19 16:50
Re: Mainstream and Alternative Ideas 346 Susan Doris 05-Jul-19 17:24
Re: Mainstream and Alternative Ideas 339 Thanos5150 06-Jul-19 01:23
Re: Mainstream and Alternative Ideas 318 Susan Doris 06-Jul-19 05:04
Re: Mainstream and Alternative Ideas 329 Thanos5150 06-Jul-19 05:48
Re: Mainstream and Alternative Ideas 355 Aine 05-Jul-19 18:05
Re: Mainstream and Alternative Ideas 324 Thanos5150 06-Jul-19 01:11
Re: Mainstream and Alternative Ideas 309 Aine 06-Jul-19 16:35
Re: Mainstream and Alternative Ideas 324 cladking 06-Jul-19 18:23
Re: Mainstream and Alternative Ideas 324 Eddie Larry 06-Jul-19 20:12
Re: Mainstream and Alternative Ideas 336 Aine 06-Jul-19 20:48
Re: Mainstream and Alternative Ideas 315 cladking 07-Jul-19 00:06
Re: Mainstream and Alternative Ideas 294 Aine 07-Jul-19 00:22
Re: Mainstream and Alternative Ideas 346 cladking 07-Jul-19 00:58
Re: Mainstream and Alternative Ideas 302 Thanos5150 07-Jul-19 23:27
Re: Mainstream and Alternative Ideas 289 Aine 09-Jul-19 22:05
Re: Mainstream and Alternative Ideas 277 Thanos5150 09-Jul-19 23:40
Re: Mainstream and Alternative Ideas 294 Aine 10-Jul-19 01:43
Re: Mainstream and Alternative Ideas 287 Susan Doris 10-Jul-19 05:00
Re: Mainstream and Alternative Ideas 340 Susan Doris 06-Jul-19 09:52
Re: Mainstream and Alternative Ideas 335 Thanos5150 06-Jul-19 15:46
Re: Mainstream and Alternative Ideas 304 Aine 06-Jul-19 16:48
Re: Mainstream and Alternative Ideas 306 Thanos5150 07-Jul-19 15:05
Re: Mainstream and Alternative Ideas 311 Susan Doris 06-Jul-19 17:25
Re: Mainstream and Alternative Ideas 308 cladking 06-Jul-19 18:16
Re: Mainstream and Alternative Ideas 299 Eddie Larry 06-Jul-19 20:06
Re: Mainstream and Alternative Ideas 311 Thanos5150 07-Jul-19 15:30
Re: Mainstream and Alternative Ideas 310 Susan Doris 07-Jul-19 16:30
Re: Mainstream and Alternative Ideas 299 Thanos5150 07-Jul-19 17:51
Re: Mainstream and Alternative Ideas 316 Aine 07-Jul-19 22:56
Re: Mainstream and Alternative Ideas 309 Susan Doris 08-Jul-19 05:19
Re: Mainstream and Alternative Ideas 286 Aine 09-Jul-19 22:12
Re: Mainstream and Alternative Ideas 317 drrayeye 06-Jul-19 18:50
Re: Mainstream and Alternative Ideas 329 Thanos5150 07-Jul-19 16:07
Re: Mainstream and Alternative Ideas 314 cladking 07-Jul-19 16:56
Re: Mainstream and Alternative Ideas 304 Aine 07-Jul-19 22:31
Re: Mainstream and Alternative Ideas 328 Thanos5150 07-Jul-19 23:42
The advantage of scholarly "tricks" in formulating opinions 309 drrayeye 08-Jul-19 22:26
Re: The advantage of scholarly "tricks" in formulating opinions 328 Eddie Larry 09-Jul-19 00:55
Re: Mainstream and Alternative Ideas 294 cladking 07-Jul-19 17:42
Re: Mainstream and Alternative Ideas 323 Thanos5150 08-Jul-19 01:35
Re: Mainstream and Alternative Ideas 336 eyeofhorus33 08-Jul-19 21:12
Re: Mainstream and Alternative Ideas 309 Thanos5150 09-Jul-19 15:56
Re: Mainstream and Alternative Ideas 310 Susan Doris 09-Jul-19 16:45
Re: Mainstream and Alternative Ideas 288 Thanos5150 10-Jul-19 00:46
Re: Mainstream and Alternative Ideas 345 eyeofhorus33 09-Jul-19 20:21
Re: Mainstream and Alternative Ideas 293 Thanos5150 09-Jul-19 23:07
Re: Mainstream and Alternative Ideas 314 engbren 10-Jul-19 08:24
Re: Mainstream and Alternative Ideas 299 Thanos5150 11-Jul-19 02:14
Re: Mainstream and Alternative Ideas 298 engbren 02-Aug-19 09:27
Re: Mainstream and Alternative Ideas 310 Thanos5150 02-Aug-19 14:36
Re: Mainstream and Alternative Ideas 281 engbren 02-Aug-19 21:31
Re: Mainstream and Alternative Ideas 346 Thanos5150 03-Aug-19 14:22
Re: Mainstream and Alternative Ideas 280 Aine 09-Jul-19 22:07
Re: Mainstream and Alternative Ideas 395 Jgeeta 08-Jul-19 02:43
Re: Mainstream and Alternative Ideas 325 KsFisher 08-Jul-19 19:28
Re: Mainstream and Alternative Ideas 337 KsFisher 08-Jul-19 19:16
Re: Mainstream and Alternative Ideas 313 cladking 09-Jul-19 13:08
Re: Mainstream and Alternative Ideas 313 KsFisher 09-Jul-19 19:49
Re: Mainstream and Alternative Ideas 281 cladking 11-Jul-19 01:06
Re: Mainstream and Alternative Ideas 282 Susan Doris 11-Jul-19 05:12
Re: Mainstream and Alternative Ideas 339 Corpuscles 10-Jul-19 04:16
Re: Mainstream and Alternative Ideas 368 Susan Doris 10-Jul-19 05:15
Re: Mainstream and Alternative Ideas 300 Corpuscles 10-Jul-19 06:21
Re: Mainstream and Alternative Ideas 356 Susan Doris 10-Jul-19 10:21
Gossip 314 drrayeye 10-Jul-19 17:46
Troll 334 eyeofhorus33 10-Jul-19 18:54
Re: Troll 310 Sirfiroth 10-Jul-19 19:03
Re: Troll 351 eyeofhorus33 10-Jul-19 19:08
An explanation in "Cowboy" 339 drrayeye 10-Jul-19 23:42
Other times, I poke the dog with a stick. 293 drrayeye 10-Jul-19 23:15
Not at all, Ray 362 eyeofhorus33 11-Jul-19 07:19
Matt's rules 303 drrayeye 11-Jul-19 07:52
Ray gets schooled 385 eyeofhorus33 11-Jul-19 11:31
Ho Ho Ho 313 drrayeye 11-Jul-19 14:12
Re: Ray gets schooled 306 Martin Stower 11-Jul-19 21:10
Fighting "trolls" in Texas 302 drrayeye 11-Jul-19 00:09
Re: Gossip 284 Susan Doris 11-Jul-19 05:15
The Grand Poo-Bah of Pomposity 299 Barbelo 11-Jul-19 07:07
Don't worry, Pancho 312 drrayeye 11-Jul-19 08:04
Grovel. Grovel. 292 Barbelo 11-Jul-19 10:54
Re: The Grand Poo-Bah of Pomposity 293 Susan Doris 11-Jul-19 11:35
Getting an "innocent" to take the bait 322 drrayeye 11-Jul-19 20:42
Re: Mainstream and Alternative Ideas 308 Martin Stower 10-Jul-19 18:09
Re: Mainstream and Alternative Ideas 290 Susan Doris 11-Jul-19 05:19
Re: Mainstream and Alternative Ideas 323 Thanos5150 11-Jul-19 02:48
Re: Mainstream and Alternative Ideas 291 Corpuscles 11-Jul-19 07:04
Re: Mainstream and Alternative Ideas 283 Thanos5150 11-Jul-19 15:37
Unfortunately 306 drrayeye 11-Jul-19 17:52
Re: Unfortunately 292 Corpuscles 12-Jul-19 00:09
Level 3 302 drrayeye 12-Jul-19 00:48
Re: Unfortunately 278 Thanos5150 12-Jul-19 15:06
Re: Unfortunately 316 cladking 12-Jul-19 17:10
Re: Mainstream and Alternative Ideas 321 kborissov 12-Jul-19 02:01
Re: Mainstream and Alternative Ideas 311 Corpuscles 12-Jul-19 02:59
Australian jargon 312 drrayeye 10-Jul-19 17:39
Re: Australian jargon 337 Martin Stower 10-Jul-19 18:16
Re: Australian jargon 295 drrayeye 11-Jul-19 00:20
Re: Australian jargon 304 Corpuscles 10-Jul-19 23:58
Thanks 313 drrayeye 11-Jul-19 00:12
Re: Australian jargon 286 cladking 11-Jul-19 01:00
Re: Australian jargon 322 Corpuscles 11-Jul-19 01:47
Re: Australian jargon 334 cladking 11-Jul-19 02:44
Re: Australian jargon 309 Corpuscles 11-Jul-19 03:58
Re: Australian jargon 322 Thanos5150 11-Jul-19 04:02
Re: Australian jargon 295 cladking 11-Jul-19 04:22
Re: Australian jargon 311 Corpuscles 11-Jul-19 04:50
Re: Australian jargon 309 cladking 11-Jul-19 14:31
Re: Australian jargon 309 Warwick 11-Jul-19 15:31
Re: Australian jargon 292 cladking 11-Jul-19 15:57
um 298 Warwick 11-Jul-19 17:01
Re: Mainstream and Alternative Ideas 317 cladking 11-Jul-19 01:11
Re: Mainstream and Alternative Ideas 313 cloister 11-Jul-19 13:32
Re: Mainstream and Alternative Ideas 294 Thanos5150 12-Jul-19 14:50
Re: Mainstream and Alternative Ideas 308 cloister 12-Jul-19 19:03
Re: Mainstream and Alternative Ideas 362 Thanos5150 13-Jul-19 01:33
Re: Mainstream and Alternative Ideas 330 AndyBlackard 11-Jul-19 19:40
Re: Mainstream and Alternative Ideas 287 Eddie Larry 11-Jul-19 19:47
Re: Mainstream and Alternative Ideas 313 Warwick 11-Jul-19 19:58
Re: Mainstream and Alternative Ideas 338 Dejus 12-Jul-19 11:20
the Dinosaur destroyer 576 hendrik dirker 12-Jul-19 15:02
Re: the Dinosaur destroyer 442 Robert Jameson 14-Sep-19 13:35


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