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Hi Lee

I have had for many days a nagging suspicion that I might be one of the "ect ect" [sic] you refer to albeit I would likely be way down the list well below the 'totally insignificant demarcation zone', of any such list , but nevertheless therefore feel a little (strangely) obliged to make effort to comment.

However, firstly, how do I know that in responding /replying to you that I am not committing and exacerbating the undesirable error of potentially 'beating up' on low lying fringe fruit?
Is there a list of such? If so, could you post it in FULL.

Unfortunately, you will be disappointed to read I am not a fan of either; Kuhn ; or Celebrity TV science presenter Prof Brian Cox. These apparently are of "significant consequence" worthy of elaborate reply and attention. Perhaps that is just my good fortune?

I think your OP presumes far too much! The presumption that only fringe alternate theorists are attracted to GHMB and or that any original such notions that attracted such to GHMB are still held, passionately and clearly enough, to be worthy of current extensive presentation?

The ones who get 'beat up' are specifically those who constantly "beat up", their own unique beat up.

They are the dogmatic, self promotional, self important, self delusional, often specifically unique sensationalistic fantasisers lacking in complete knowledge of their subject or exhibit wilful ignorance with intention to deceive. Further their shear amount of persistent repetition finally after considerable effort to ignore, snap the "no reply - tolerance - circuit breaker" TM
(I assume you have one of these clever devices they are critical for the early detection of both "low lying fringe alt fruit-loops" and also highlight items of "significant consequence". Sadly, I cant source one here down under, and Amazon tells they are "not available" to me.

After several reads and inclusive of later development/comment I think I get what you are trying to suggest.

You go to extensive extraordinary effort to create interesting , informative, thought provoking threads which do not seem to attract the level of attention and particularly contribution, you believe they deserve and concurrently are fascinated that lesser loonies grab attention?

I think you ought be personally internally encouraged in that such contributions are not so mundane nor repetitive to be subject to hardly any ridicule by the rank and file wider audience, or subject to contra argument BUT RATHER -IS WIDELY RESPECTED AND VERY MUCH APPRECIATED by most (including the fringe fruit-loops)!!!
There is respect for the time, and research effort, it takes that others may not have to give nor required motivation.

Yes, it would be good if more did likewise, but that cannot be demanded or mandated, especially from largely anonymous strangers merely wanting to chat learn or uncommitted hobby passtime. (sympathy & personal apology offered).

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Thanos5150 to eyeofhorus33
I appreciate that, but the point is not "me", however, not in the least, but rather why do credible subjects of consequence garner so little participation whereas fringe nonsense has such a hold not just on believers, but those who argue against them?

Surely, that is not really a question (of deep fascination or mystery) but rather a comment/statement?

Why does a 15sec video grab of a massive car accident at Indy 500 or one of the GrandPrixs get prime time news play around the world?
It is entertainment to mass audience, it is sensational, it provokes emotion... ect ect [sic]

If as merely a poor example - I was writing a well researched book on Mesopotamian influence on pre Dynastic Egypt AND I WANTED maximum reaction I would include some item that appealed toa wide disperse spectrum of people with emotional involvement in such and make it deliberately controversial. EG something like the Biblical story of the patriarch Abram Abraham was a mythical allegory of a long standing vage memory of the establishment of the AE dynasties by a Mesopotamian king.

They would be screaming the house down!!!
The religious nutters would issue one of those 'kill on site' orders or how a PC conference about the horrible disgraceful misrepresentation of "the truth"
Atheist's would pile in to say there WAS NOT ANY SUCH individual

ect ect [sic]

Cheers
Steve

Footnote: Not to be a pRi ck but the correct abbreviation for et cetera is "etc"
Unfamiliar with American spelling of "reffering" , but tip , I doubt it has two "f"s
SEE -your stuff is (when time permits) read in absolute fine detail! But many of us are not worthy of adding or subtracting from it, other than a few hopefully helpful tips?

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Mainstream and Alternative Ideas 1867 Thanos5150 05-Jul-19 02:13
Re: Mainstream and Alternative Ideas 347 cladking 05-Jul-19 03:29
Re: Mainstream and Alternative Ideas 298 Thanos5150 05-Jul-19 04:07
Re: Mainstream and Alternative Ideas 324 Susan Doris 05-Jul-19 05:16
Re: Mainstream and Alternative Ideas 276 engbren 05-Jul-19 12:45
Re: Mainstream and Alternative Ideas 240 Thanos5150 06-Jul-19 01:19
Re: Mainstream and Alternative Ideas 231 engbren 08-Jul-19 13:54
Re: Mainstream and Alternative Ideas 260 Thanos5150 05-Jul-19 14:56
Re: Mainstream and Alternative Ideas 253 cladking 05-Jul-19 16:50
Re: Mainstream and Alternative Ideas 248 Susan Doris 05-Jul-19 17:24
Re: Mainstream and Alternative Ideas 236 Thanos5150 06-Jul-19 01:23
Re: Mainstream and Alternative Ideas 220 Susan Doris 06-Jul-19 05:04
Re: Mainstream and Alternative Ideas 223 Thanos5150 06-Jul-19 05:48
Re: Mainstream and Alternative Ideas 248 Aine 05-Jul-19 18:05
Re: Mainstream and Alternative Ideas 223 Thanos5150 06-Jul-19 01:11
Re: Mainstream and Alternative Ideas 207 Aine 06-Jul-19 16:35
Re: Mainstream and Alternative Ideas 218 cladking 06-Jul-19 18:23
Re: Mainstream and Alternative Ideas 225 Eddie Larry 06-Jul-19 20:12
Re: Mainstream and Alternative Ideas 233 Aine 06-Jul-19 20:48
Re: Mainstream and Alternative Ideas 217 cladking 07-Jul-19 00:06
Re: Mainstream and Alternative Ideas 194 Aine 07-Jul-19 00:22
Re: Mainstream and Alternative Ideas 244 cladking 07-Jul-19 00:58
Re: Mainstream and Alternative Ideas 203 Thanos5150 07-Jul-19 23:27
Re: Mainstream and Alternative Ideas 188 Aine 09-Jul-19 22:05
Re: Mainstream and Alternative Ideas 178 Thanos5150 09-Jul-19 23:40
Re: Mainstream and Alternative Ideas 187 Aine 10-Jul-19 01:43
Re: Mainstream and Alternative Ideas 190 Susan Doris 10-Jul-19 05:00
Re: Mainstream and Alternative Ideas 231 Susan Doris 06-Jul-19 09:52
Re: Mainstream and Alternative Ideas 229 Thanos5150 06-Jul-19 15:46
Re: Mainstream and Alternative Ideas 203 Aine 06-Jul-19 16:48
Re: Mainstream and Alternative Ideas 208 Thanos5150 07-Jul-19 15:05
Re: Mainstream and Alternative Ideas 214 Susan Doris 06-Jul-19 17:25
Re: Mainstream and Alternative Ideas 204 cladking 06-Jul-19 18:16
Re: Mainstream and Alternative Ideas 200 Eddie Larry 06-Jul-19 20:06
Re: Mainstream and Alternative Ideas 214 Thanos5150 07-Jul-19 15:30
Re: Mainstream and Alternative Ideas 204 Susan Doris 07-Jul-19 16:30
Re: Mainstream and Alternative Ideas 202 Thanos5150 07-Jul-19 17:51
Re: Mainstream and Alternative Ideas 209 Aine 07-Jul-19 22:56
Re: Mainstream and Alternative Ideas 212 Susan Doris 08-Jul-19 05:19
Re: Mainstream and Alternative Ideas 185 Aine 09-Jul-19 22:12
Re: Mainstream and Alternative Ideas 214 drrayeye 06-Jul-19 18:50
Re: Mainstream and Alternative Ideas 224 Thanos5150 07-Jul-19 16:07
Re: Mainstream and Alternative Ideas 216 cladking 07-Jul-19 16:56
Re: Mainstream and Alternative Ideas 203 Aine 07-Jul-19 22:31
Re: Mainstream and Alternative Ideas 221 Thanos5150 07-Jul-19 23:42
The advantage of scholarly "tricks" in formulating opinions 208 drrayeye 08-Jul-19 22:26
Re: The advantage of scholarly "tricks" in formulating opinions 224 Eddie Larry 09-Jul-19 00:55
Re: Mainstream and Alternative Ideas 194 cladking 07-Jul-19 17:42
Re: Mainstream and Alternative Ideas 221 Thanos5150 08-Jul-19 01:35
Re: Mainstream and Alternative Ideas 233 eyeofhorus33 08-Jul-19 21:12
Re: Mainstream and Alternative Ideas 208 Thanos5150 09-Jul-19 15:56
Re: Mainstream and Alternative Ideas 204 Susan Doris 09-Jul-19 16:45
Re: Mainstream and Alternative Ideas 186 Thanos5150 10-Jul-19 00:46
Re: Mainstream and Alternative Ideas 241 eyeofhorus33 09-Jul-19 20:21
Re: Mainstream and Alternative Ideas 189 Thanos5150 09-Jul-19 23:07
Re: Mainstream and Alternative Ideas 207 engbren 10-Jul-19 08:24
Re: Mainstream and Alternative Ideas 197 Thanos5150 11-Jul-19 02:14
Re: Mainstream and Alternative Ideas 198 engbren 02-Aug-19 09:27
Re: Mainstream and Alternative Ideas 211 Thanos5150 02-Aug-19 14:36
Re: Mainstream and Alternative Ideas 181 engbren 02-Aug-19 21:31
Re: Mainstream and Alternative Ideas 234 Thanos5150 03-Aug-19 14:22
Re: Mainstream and Alternative Ideas 179 Aine 09-Jul-19 22:07
Re: Mainstream and Alternative Ideas 298 Jgeeta 08-Jul-19 02:43
Re: Mainstream and Alternative Ideas 216 KsFisher 08-Jul-19 19:28
Re: Mainstream and Alternative Ideas 224 KsFisher 08-Jul-19 19:16
Re: Mainstream and Alternative Ideas 207 cladking 09-Jul-19 13:08
Re: Mainstream and Alternative Ideas 209 KsFisher 09-Jul-19 19:49
Re: Mainstream and Alternative Ideas 179 cladking 11-Jul-19 01:06
Re: Mainstream and Alternative Ideas 183 Susan Doris 11-Jul-19 05:12
Re: Mainstream and Alternative Ideas 233 Corpuscles 10-Jul-19 04:16
Re: Mainstream and Alternative Ideas 264 Susan Doris 10-Jul-19 05:15
Re: Mainstream and Alternative Ideas 199 Corpuscles 10-Jul-19 06:21
Re: Mainstream and Alternative Ideas 252 Susan Doris 10-Jul-19 10:21
Gossip 215 drrayeye 10-Jul-19 17:46
Troll 232 eyeofhorus33 10-Jul-19 18:54
Re: Troll 211 Sirfiroth 10-Jul-19 19:03
Re: Troll 245 eyeofhorus33 10-Jul-19 19:08
An explanation in "Cowboy" 232 drrayeye 10-Jul-19 23:42
Other times, I poke the dog with a stick. 197 drrayeye 10-Jul-19 23:15
Not at all, Ray 242 eyeofhorus33 11-Jul-19 07:19
Matt's rules 199 drrayeye 11-Jul-19 07:52
Ray gets schooled 259 eyeofhorus33 11-Jul-19 11:31
Ho Ho Ho 211 drrayeye 11-Jul-19 14:12
Re: Ray gets schooled 205 Martin Stower 11-Jul-19 21:10
Fighting "trolls" in Texas 202 drrayeye 11-Jul-19 00:09
Re: Gossip 189 Susan Doris 11-Jul-19 05:15
The Grand Poo-Bah of Pomposity 200 Barbelo 11-Jul-19 07:07
Don't worry, Pancho 209 drrayeye 11-Jul-19 08:04
Grovel. Grovel. 194 Barbelo 11-Jul-19 10:54
Re: The Grand Poo-Bah of Pomposity 192 Susan Doris 11-Jul-19 11:35
Getting an "innocent" to take the bait 217 drrayeye 11-Jul-19 20:42
Re: Mainstream and Alternative Ideas 208 Martin Stower 10-Jul-19 18:09
Re: Mainstream and Alternative Ideas 194 Susan Doris 11-Jul-19 05:19
Re: Mainstream and Alternative Ideas 213 Thanos5150 11-Jul-19 02:48
Re: Mainstream and Alternative Ideas 197 Corpuscles 11-Jul-19 07:04
Re: Mainstream and Alternative Ideas 182 Thanos5150 11-Jul-19 15:37
Unfortunately 202 drrayeye 11-Jul-19 17:52
Re: Unfortunately 192 Corpuscles 12-Jul-19 00:09
Level 3 202 drrayeye 12-Jul-19 00:48
Re: Unfortunately 181 Thanos5150 12-Jul-19 15:06
Re: Unfortunately 214 cladking 12-Jul-19 17:10
Re: Mainstream and Alternative Ideas 214 kborissov 12-Jul-19 02:01
Re: Mainstream and Alternative Ideas 209 Corpuscles 12-Jul-19 02:59
Australian jargon 210 drrayeye 10-Jul-19 17:39
Re: Australian jargon 233 Martin Stower 10-Jul-19 18:16
Re: Australian jargon 196 drrayeye 11-Jul-19 00:20
Re: Australian jargon 204 Corpuscles 10-Jul-19 23:58
Thanks 213 drrayeye 11-Jul-19 00:12
Re: Australian jargon 191 cladking 11-Jul-19 01:00
Re: Australian jargon 224 Corpuscles 11-Jul-19 01:47
Re: Australian jargon 236 cladking 11-Jul-19 02:44
Re: Australian jargon 211 Corpuscles 11-Jul-19 03:58
Re: Australian jargon 217 Thanos5150 11-Jul-19 04:02
Re: Australian jargon 193 cladking 11-Jul-19 04:22
Re: Australian jargon 214 Corpuscles 11-Jul-19 04:50
Re: Australian jargon 190 cladking 11-Jul-19 14:31
Re: Australian jargon 205 Warwick 11-Jul-19 15:31
Re: Australian jargon 195 cladking 11-Jul-19 15:57
um 196 Warwick 11-Jul-19 17:01
Re: Mainstream and Alternative Ideas 219 cladking 11-Jul-19 01:11
Re: Mainstream and Alternative Ideas 208 cloister 11-Jul-19 13:32
Re: Mainstream and Alternative Ideas 193 Thanos5150 12-Jul-19 14:50
Re: Mainstream and Alternative Ideas 210 cloister 12-Jul-19 19:03
Re: Mainstream and Alternative Ideas 253 Thanos5150 13-Jul-19 01:33
Re: Mainstream and Alternative Ideas 228 AndyBlackard 11-Jul-19 19:40
Re: Mainstream and Alternative Ideas 187 Eddie Larry 11-Jul-19 19:47
Re: Mainstream and Alternative Ideas 210 Warwick 11-Jul-19 19:58
Re: Mainstream and Alternative Ideas 228 Dejus 12-Jul-19 11:20
the Dinosaur destroyer 374 hendrik dirker 12-Jul-19 15:02
Re: the Dinosaur destroyer 303 Robert Jameson 14-Sep-19 13:35


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