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Hi Lee

I have had for many days a nagging suspicion that I might be one of the "ect ect" [sic] you refer to albeit I would likely be way down the list well below the 'totally insignificant demarcation zone', of any such list , but nevertheless therefore feel a little (strangely) obliged to make effort to comment.

However, firstly, how do I know that in responding /replying to you that I am not committing and exacerbating the undesirable error of potentially 'beating up' on low lying fringe fruit?
Is there a list of such? If so, could you post it in FULL.

Unfortunately, you will be disappointed to read I am not a fan of either; Kuhn ; or Celebrity TV science presenter Prof Brian Cox. These apparently are of "significant consequence" worthy of elaborate reply and attention. Perhaps that is just my good fortune?

I think your OP presumes far too much! The presumption that only fringe alternate theorists are attracted to GHMB and or that any original such notions that attracted such to GHMB are still held, passionately and clearly enough, to be worthy of current extensive presentation?

The ones who get 'beat up' are specifically those who constantly "beat up", their own unique beat up.

They are the dogmatic, self promotional, self important, self delusional, often specifically unique sensationalistic fantasisers lacking in complete knowledge of their subject or exhibit wilful ignorance with intention to deceive. Further their shear amount of persistent repetition finally after considerable effort to ignore, snap the "no reply - tolerance - circuit breaker" TM
(I assume you have one of these clever devices they are critical for the early detection of both "low lying fringe alt fruit-loops" and also highlight items of "significant consequence". Sadly, I cant source one here down under, and Amazon tells they are "not available" to me.

After several reads and inclusive of later development/comment I think I get what you are trying to suggest.

You go to extensive extraordinary effort to create interesting , informative, thought provoking threads which do not seem to attract the level of attention and particularly contribution, you believe they deserve and concurrently are fascinated that lesser loonies grab attention?

I think you ought be personally internally encouraged in that such contributions are not so mundane nor repetitive to be subject to hardly any ridicule by the rank and file wider audience, or subject to contra argument BUT RATHER -IS WIDELY RESPECTED AND VERY MUCH APPRECIATED by most (including the fringe fruit-loops)!!!
There is respect for the time, and research effort, it takes that others may not have to give nor required motivation.

Yes, it would be good if more did likewise, but that cannot be demanded or mandated, especially from largely anonymous strangers merely wanting to chat learn or uncommitted hobby passtime. (sympathy & personal apology offered).

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Thanos5150 to eyeofhorus33
I appreciate that, but the point is not "me", however, not in the least, but rather why do credible subjects of consequence garner so little participation whereas fringe nonsense has such a hold not just on believers, but those who argue against them?

Surely, that is not really a question (of deep fascination or mystery) but rather a comment/statement?

Why does a 15sec video grab of a massive car accident at Indy 500 or one of the GrandPrixs get prime time news play around the world?
It is entertainment to mass audience, it is sensational, it provokes emotion... ect ect [sic]

If as merely a poor example - I was writing a well researched book on Mesopotamian influence on pre Dynastic Egypt AND I WANTED maximum reaction I would include some item that appealed toa wide disperse spectrum of people with emotional involvement in such and make it deliberately controversial. EG something like the Biblical story of the patriarch Abram Abraham was a mythical allegory of a long standing vage memory of the establishment of the AE dynasties by a Mesopotamian king.

They would be screaming the house down!!!
The religious nutters would issue one of those 'kill on site' orders or how a PC conference about the horrible disgraceful misrepresentation of "the truth"
Atheist's would pile in to say there WAS NOT ANY SUCH individual

ect ect [sic]

Cheers
Steve

Footnote: Not to be a pRi ck but the correct abbreviation for et cetera is "etc"
Unfamiliar with American spelling of "reffering" , but tip , I doubt it has two "f"s
SEE -your stuff is (when time permits) read in absolute fine detail! But many of us are not worthy of adding or subtracting from it, other than a few hopefully helpful tips?

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Mainstream and Alternative Ideas 2021 Thanos5150 05-Jul-19 02:13
Re: Mainstream and Alternative Ideas 439 cladking 05-Jul-19 03:29
Re: Mainstream and Alternative Ideas 383 Thanos5150 05-Jul-19 04:07
Re: Mainstream and Alternative Ideas 408 Susan Doris 05-Jul-19 05:16
Re: Mainstream and Alternative Ideas 360 engbren 05-Jul-19 12:45
Re: Mainstream and Alternative Ideas 327 Thanos5150 06-Jul-19 01:19
Re: Mainstream and Alternative Ideas 326 engbren 08-Jul-19 13:54
Re: Mainstream and Alternative Ideas 348 Thanos5150 05-Jul-19 14:56
Re: Mainstream and Alternative Ideas 342 cladking 05-Jul-19 16:50
Re: Mainstream and Alternative Ideas 332 Susan Doris 05-Jul-19 17:24
Re: Mainstream and Alternative Ideas 325 Thanos5150 06-Jul-19 01:23
Re: Mainstream and Alternative Ideas 305 Susan Doris 06-Jul-19 05:04
Re: Mainstream and Alternative Ideas 316 Thanos5150 06-Jul-19 05:48
Re: Mainstream and Alternative Ideas 341 Aine 05-Jul-19 18:05
Re: Mainstream and Alternative Ideas 311 Thanos5150 06-Jul-19 01:11
Re: Mainstream and Alternative Ideas 296 Aine 06-Jul-19 16:35
Re: Mainstream and Alternative Ideas 312 cladking 06-Jul-19 18:23
Re: Mainstream and Alternative Ideas 311 Eddie Larry 06-Jul-19 20:12
Re: Mainstream and Alternative Ideas 322 Aine 06-Jul-19 20:48
Re: Mainstream and Alternative Ideas 302 cladking 07-Jul-19 00:06
Re: Mainstream and Alternative Ideas 281 Aine 07-Jul-19 00:22
Re: Mainstream and Alternative Ideas 332 cladking 07-Jul-19 00:58
Re: Mainstream and Alternative Ideas 291 Thanos5150 07-Jul-19 23:27
Re: Mainstream and Alternative Ideas 276 Aine 09-Jul-19 22:05
Re: Mainstream and Alternative Ideas 265 Thanos5150 09-Jul-19 23:40
Re: Mainstream and Alternative Ideas 278 Aine 10-Jul-19 01:43
Re: Mainstream and Alternative Ideas 274 Susan Doris 10-Jul-19 05:00
Re: Mainstream and Alternative Ideas 326 Susan Doris 06-Jul-19 09:52
Re: Mainstream and Alternative Ideas 322 Thanos5150 06-Jul-19 15:46
Re: Mainstream and Alternative Ideas 291 Aine 06-Jul-19 16:48
Re: Mainstream and Alternative Ideas 294 Thanos5150 07-Jul-19 15:05
Re: Mainstream and Alternative Ideas 299 Susan Doris 06-Jul-19 17:25
Re: Mainstream and Alternative Ideas 296 cladking 06-Jul-19 18:16
Re: Mainstream and Alternative Ideas 286 Eddie Larry 06-Jul-19 20:06
Re: Mainstream and Alternative Ideas 300 Thanos5150 07-Jul-19 15:30
Re: Mainstream and Alternative Ideas 290 Susan Doris 07-Jul-19 16:30
Re: Mainstream and Alternative Ideas 286 Thanos5150 07-Jul-19 17:51
Re: Mainstream and Alternative Ideas 302 Aine 07-Jul-19 22:56
Re: Mainstream and Alternative Ideas 296 Susan Doris 08-Jul-19 05:19
Re: Mainstream and Alternative Ideas 273 Aine 09-Jul-19 22:12
Re: Mainstream and Alternative Ideas 297 drrayeye 06-Jul-19 18:50
Re: Mainstream and Alternative Ideas 316 Thanos5150 07-Jul-19 16:07
Re: Mainstream and Alternative Ideas 301 cladking 07-Jul-19 16:56
Re: Mainstream and Alternative Ideas 292 Aine 07-Jul-19 22:31
Re: Mainstream and Alternative Ideas 315 Thanos5150 07-Jul-19 23:42
The advantage of scholarly "tricks" in formulating opinions 298 drrayeye 08-Jul-19 22:26
Re: The advantage of scholarly "tricks" in formulating opinions 315 Eddie Larry 09-Jul-19 00:55
Re: Mainstream and Alternative Ideas 281 cladking 07-Jul-19 17:42
Re: Mainstream and Alternative Ideas 310 Thanos5150 08-Jul-19 01:35
Re: Mainstream and Alternative Ideas 324 eyeofhorus33 08-Jul-19 21:12
Re: Mainstream and Alternative Ideas 296 Thanos5150 09-Jul-19 15:56
Re: Mainstream and Alternative Ideas 294 Susan Doris 09-Jul-19 16:45
Re: Mainstream and Alternative Ideas 275 Thanos5150 10-Jul-19 00:46
Re: Mainstream and Alternative Ideas 332 eyeofhorus33 09-Jul-19 20:21
Re: Mainstream and Alternative Ideas 281 Thanos5150 09-Jul-19 23:07
Re: Mainstream and Alternative Ideas 298 engbren 10-Jul-19 08:24
Re: Mainstream and Alternative Ideas 286 Thanos5150 11-Jul-19 02:14
Re: Mainstream and Alternative Ideas 286 engbren 02-Aug-19 09:27
Re: Mainstream and Alternative Ideas 296 Thanos5150 02-Aug-19 14:36
Re: Mainstream and Alternative Ideas 269 engbren 02-Aug-19 21:31
Re: Mainstream and Alternative Ideas 330 Thanos5150 03-Aug-19 14:22
Re: Mainstream and Alternative Ideas 266 Aine 09-Jul-19 22:07
Re: Mainstream and Alternative Ideas 382 Jgeeta 08-Jul-19 02:43
Re: Mainstream and Alternative Ideas 309 KsFisher 08-Jul-19 19:28
Re: Mainstream and Alternative Ideas 321 KsFisher 08-Jul-19 19:16
Re: Mainstream and Alternative Ideas 302 cladking 09-Jul-19 13:08
Re: Mainstream and Alternative Ideas 300 KsFisher 09-Jul-19 19:49
Re: Mainstream and Alternative Ideas 265 cladking 11-Jul-19 01:06
Re: Mainstream and Alternative Ideas 269 Susan Doris 11-Jul-19 05:12
Re: Mainstream and Alternative Ideas 326 Corpuscles 10-Jul-19 04:16
Re: Mainstream and Alternative Ideas 355 Susan Doris 10-Jul-19 05:15
Re: Mainstream and Alternative Ideas 287 Corpuscles 10-Jul-19 06:21
Re: Mainstream and Alternative Ideas 344 Susan Doris 10-Jul-19 10:21
Gossip 302 drrayeye 10-Jul-19 17:46
Troll 322 eyeofhorus33 10-Jul-19 18:54
Re: Troll 298 Sirfiroth 10-Jul-19 19:03
Re: Troll 339 eyeofhorus33 10-Jul-19 19:08
An explanation in "Cowboy" 325 drrayeye 10-Jul-19 23:42
Other times, I poke the dog with a stick. 280 drrayeye 10-Jul-19 23:15
Not at all, Ray 345 eyeofhorus33 11-Jul-19 07:19
Matt's rules 290 drrayeye 11-Jul-19 07:52
Ray gets schooled 365 eyeofhorus33 11-Jul-19 11:31
Ho Ho Ho 301 drrayeye 11-Jul-19 14:12
Re: Ray gets schooled 293 Martin Stower 11-Jul-19 21:10
Fighting "trolls" in Texas 289 drrayeye 11-Jul-19 00:09
Re: Gossip 271 Susan Doris 11-Jul-19 05:15
The Grand Poo-Bah of Pomposity 286 Barbelo 11-Jul-19 07:07
Don't worry, Pancho 299 drrayeye 11-Jul-19 08:04
Grovel. Grovel. 279 Barbelo 11-Jul-19 10:54
Re: The Grand Poo-Bah of Pomposity 280 Susan Doris 11-Jul-19 11:35
Getting an "innocent" to take the bait 309 drrayeye 11-Jul-19 20:42
Re: Mainstream and Alternative Ideas 295 Martin Stower 10-Jul-19 18:09
Re: Mainstream and Alternative Ideas 278 Susan Doris 11-Jul-19 05:19
Re: Mainstream and Alternative Ideas 309 Thanos5150 11-Jul-19 02:48
Re: Mainstream and Alternative Ideas 279 Corpuscles 11-Jul-19 07:04
Re: Mainstream and Alternative Ideas 270 Thanos5150 11-Jul-19 15:37
Unfortunately 290 drrayeye 11-Jul-19 17:52
Re: Unfortunately 279 Corpuscles 12-Jul-19 00:09
Level 3 290 drrayeye 12-Jul-19 00:48
Re: Unfortunately 266 Thanos5150 12-Jul-19 15:06
Re: Unfortunately 304 cladking 12-Jul-19 17:10
Re: Mainstream and Alternative Ideas 306 kborissov 12-Jul-19 02:01
Re: Mainstream and Alternative Ideas 298 Corpuscles 12-Jul-19 02:59
Australian jargon 299 drrayeye 10-Jul-19 17:39
Re: Australian jargon 324 Martin Stower 10-Jul-19 18:16
Re: Australian jargon 282 drrayeye 11-Jul-19 00:20
Re: Australian jargon 292 Corpuscles 10-Jul-19 23:58
Thanks 301 drrayeye 11-Jul-19 00:12
Re: Australian jargon 274 cladking 11-Jul-19 01:00
Re: Australian jargon 309 Corpuscles 11-Jul-19 01:47
Re: Australian jargon 322 cladking 11-Jul-19 02:44
Re: Australian jargon 296 Corpuscles 11-Jul-19 03:58
Re: Australian jargon 311 Thanos5150 11-Jul-19 04:02
Re: Australian jargon 284 cladking 11-Jul-19 04:22
Re: Australian jargon 298 Corpuscles 11-Jul-19 04:50
Re: Australian jargon 295 cladking 11-Jul-19 14:31
Re: Australian jargon 296 Warwick 11-Jul-19 15:31
Re: Australian jargon 279 cladking 11-Jul-19 15:57
um 285 Warwick 11-Jul-19 17:01
Re: Mainstream and Alternative Ideas 306 cladking 11-Jul-19 01:11
Re: Mainstream and Alternative Ideas 299 cloister 11-Jul-19 13:32
Re: Mainstream and Alternative Ideas 281 Thanos5150 12-Jul-19 14:50
Re: Mainstream and Alternative Ideas 295 cloister 12-Jul-19 19:03
Re: Mainstream and Alternative Ideas 349 Thanos5150 13-Jul-19 01:33
Re: Mainstream and Alternative Ideas 315 AndyBlackard 11-Jul-19 19:40
Re: Mainstream and Alternative Ideas 276 Eddie Larry 11-Jul-19 19:47
Re: Mainstream and Alternative Ideas 301 Warwick 11-Jul-19 19:58
Re: Mainstream and Alternative Ideas 325 Dejus 12-Jul-19 11:20
the Dinosaur destroyer 550 hendrik dirker 12-Jul-19 15:02
Re: the Dinosaur destroyer 428 Robert Jameson 14-Sep-19 13:35


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