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Thanos5150 Wrote:
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> I am skeptical of this though there are some, like
> aboriginal myths, that are curious. On balance I
> find it hard to accept myths were transmitted for
> several thousand years before the advent of
> writing, but I keep an open mind.

They probably got convoluted and details were lost as they got further from first person eyewitnesses, but the nuggets are still there. Whether or not we'll ever be able to figure that out is an open question.

I am well aware that many of my questions may never be answered and that a lot of my ideas are ultimately unprovable. I'm not delusional on that score.

I can dream, though.


> As I have said, the existence of Gobekli Tepe all
> but assures this. This is not just one site, but
> several, and they are the most sophisticated at
> their very beginnings. Common sense dictates this
> was the culmination of a long period of
> development of which evidence of this predating GT
> is just waiting to be found.

Yes, but at the time Fingerprints was written, that wasn't the case.

> I agree, but the question for me is when exactly
> are they talking about. The flood myths, for
> example, I have argued the case are not reffering
> to the end of the Ice Age, but rather a series of
> events that took place c.6,000BC.

And I agree that there is a lot of evidence for this as opposed to a much earlier date. And we may never have evidence for an earlier date. Glacier advances and retreats, sea level changes, changing topography as a result...there's probably very little left.


> Not so sure about that. Among other reasons
> against this, there is a quantum leap between the
> cultures of Dynastic Egypt and Mesopotamia with
> that of Gobekli Tepe. This is not where I started,
> I was all in on the idea, but after 25yrs of
> research and travelling the world, I have come to
> terms with the fact it is not likely this was the
> case.

We have to keep looking, though.


> Someday I'll get around to it but my enthusiasm
> level is low.

I just haven't had a lot of time. Busy busy busy!

Stupidity is knowing the truth, seeing the truth but still believing the lies. And that is more infectious than any other disease. ~ Richard Feynman

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Mainstream and Alternative Ideas 1868 Thanos5150 05-Jul-19 02:13
Re: Mainstream and Alternative Ideas 348 cladking 05-Jul-19 03:29
Re: Mainstream and Alternative Ideas 299 Thanos5150 05-Jul-19 04:07
Re: Mainstream and Alternative Ideas 324 Susan Doris 05-Jul-19 05:16
Re: Mainstream and Alternative Ideas 276 engbren 05-Jul-19 12:45
Re: Mainstream and Alternative Ideas 241 Thanos5150 06-Jul-19 01:19
Re: Mainstream and Alternative Ideas 232 engbren 08-Jul-19 13:54
Re: Mainstream and Alternative Ideas 261 Thanos5150 05-Jul-19 14:56
Re: Mainstream and Alternative Ideas 253 cladking 05-Jul-19 16:50
Re: Mainstream and Alternative Ideas 249 Susan Doris 05-Jul-19 17:24
Re: Mainstream and Alternative Ideas 236 Thanos5150 06-Jul-19 01:23
Re: Mainstream and Alternative Ideas 221 Susan Doris 06-Jul-19 05:04
Re: Mainstream and Alternative Ideas 223 Thanos5150 06-Jul-19 05:48
Re: Mainstream and Alternative Ideas 249 Aine 05-Jul-19 18:05
Re: Mainstream and Alternative Ideas 223 Thanos5150 06-Jul-19 01:11
Re: Mainstream and Alternative Ideas 209 Aine 06-Jul-19 16:35
Re: Mainstream and Alternative Ideas 218 cladking 06-Jul-19 18:23
Re: Mainstream and Alternative Ideas 226 Eddie Larry 06-Jul-19 20:12
Re: Mainstream and Alternative Ideas 234 Aine 06-Jul-19 20:48
Re: Mainstream and Alternative Ideas 218 cladking 07-Jul-19 00:06
Re: Mainstream and Alternative Ideas 194 Aine 07-Jul-19 00:22
Re: Mainstream and Alternative Ideas 245 cladking 07-Jul-19 00:58
Re: Mainstream and Alternative Ideas 204 Thanos5150 07-Jul-19 23:27
Re: Mainstream and Alternative Ideas 188 Aine 09-Jul-19 22:05
Re: Mainstream and Alternative Ideas 179 Thanos5150 09-Jul-19 23:40
Re: Mainstream and Alternative Ideas 188 Aine 10-Jul-19 01:43
Re: Mainstream and Alternative Ideas 191 Susan Doris 10-Jul-19 05:00
Re: Mainstream and Alternative Ideas 232 Susan Doris 06-Jul-19 09:52
Re: Mainstream and Alternative Ideas 230 Thanos5150 06-Jul-19 15:46
Re: Mainstream and Alternative Ideas 203 Aine 06-Jul-19 16:48
Re: Mainstream and Alternative Ideas 209 Thanos5150 07-Jul-19 15:05
Re: Mainstream and Alternative Ideas 215 Susan Doris 06-Jul-19 17:25
Re: Mainstream and Alternative Ideas 204 cladking 06-Jul-19 18:16
Re: Mainstream and Alternative Ideas 202 Eddie Larry 06-Jul-19 20:06
Re: Mainstream and Alternative Ideas 215 Thanos5150 07-Jul-19 15:30
Re: Mainstream and Alternative Ideas 206 Susan Doris 07-Jul-19 16:30
Re: Mainstream and Alternative Ideas 202 Thanos5150 07-Jul-19 17:51
Re: Mainstream and Alternative Ideas 210 Aine 07-Jul-19 22:56
Re: Mainstream and Alternative Ideas 213 Susan Doris 08-Jul-19 05:19
Re: Mainstream and Alternative Ideas 185 Aine 09-Jul-19 22:12
Re: Mainstream and Alternative Ideas 215 drrayeye 06-Jul-19 18:50
Re: Mainstream and Alternative Ideas 225 Thanos5150 07-Jul-19 16:07
Re: Mainstream and Alternative Ideas 217 cladking 07-Jul-19 16:56
Re: Mainstream and Alternative Ideas 204 Aine 07-Jul-19 22:31
Re: Mainstream and Alternative Ideas 222 Thanos5150 07-Jul-19 23:42
The advantage of scholarly "tricks" in formulating opinions 210 drrayeye 08-Jul-19 22:26
Re: The advantage of scholarly "tricks" in formulating opinions 224 Eddie Larry 09-Jul-19 00:55
Re: Mainstream and Alternative Ideas 195 cladking 07-Jul-19 17:42
Re: Mainstream and Alternative Ideas 222 Thanos5150 08-Jul-19 01:35
Re: Mainstream and Alternative Ideas 234 eyeofhorus33 08-Jul-19 21:12
Re: Mainstream and Alternative Ideas 208 Thanos5150 09-Jul-19 15:56
Re: Mainstream and Alternative Ideas 205 Susan Doris 09-Jul-19 16:45
Re: Mainstream and Alternative Ideas 188 Thanos5150 10-Jul-19 00:46
Re: Mainstream and Alternative Ideas 241 eyeofhorus33 09-Jul-19 20:21
Re: Mainstream and Alternative Ideas 191 Thanos5150 09-Jul-19 23:07
Re: Mainstream and Alternative Ideas 207 engbren 10-Jul-19 08:24
Re: Mainstream and Alternative Ideas 197 Thanos5150 11-Jul-19 02:14
Re: Mainstream and Alternative Ideas 200 engbren 02-Aug-19 09:27
Re: Mainstream and Alternative Ideas 212 Thanos5150 02-Aug-19 14:36
Re: Mainstream and Alternative Ideas 182 engbren 02-Aug-19 21:31
Re: Mainstream and Alternative Ideas 236 Thanos5150 03-Aug-19 14:22
Re: Mainstream and Alternative Ideas 180 Aine 09-Jul-19 22:07
Re: Mainstream and Alternative Ideas 299 Jgeeta 08-Jul-19 02:43
Re: Mainstream and Alternative Ideas 217 KsFisher 08-Jul-19 19:28
Re: Mainstream and Alternative Ideas 225 KsFisher 08-Jul-19 19:16
Re: Mainstream and Alternative Ideas 208 cladking 09-Jul-19 13:08
Re: Mainstream and Alternative Ideas 210 KsFisher 09-Jul-19 19:49
Re: Mainstream and Alternative Ideas 180 cladking 11-Jul-19 01:06
Re: Mainstream and Alternative Ideas 183 Susan Doris 11-Jul-19 05:12
Re: Mainstream and Alternative Ideas 234 Corpuscles 10-Jul-19 04:16
Re: Mainstream and Alternative Ideas 265 Susan Doris 10-Jul-19 05:15
Re: Mainstream and Alternative Ideas 200 Corpuscles 10-Jul-19 06:21
Re: Mainstream and Alternative Ideas 253 Susan Doris 10-Jul-19 10:21
Gossip 216 drrayeye 10-Jul-19 17:46
Troll 232 eyeofhorus33 10-Jul-19 18:54
Re: Troll 212 Sirfiroth 10-Jul-19 19:03
Re: Troll 245 eyeofhorus33 10-Jul-19 19:08
An explanation in "Cowboy" 233 drrayeye 10-Jul-19 23:42
Other times, I poke the dog with a stick. 198 drrayeye 10-Jul-19 23:15
Not at all, Ray 242 eyeofhorus33 11-Jul-19 07:19
Matt's rules 200 drrayeye 11-Jul-19 07:52
Ray gets schooled 259 eyeofhorus33 11-Jul-19 11:31
Ho Ho Ho 213 drrayeye 11-Jul-19 14:12
Re: Ray gets schooled 206 Martin Stower 11-Jul-19 21:10
Fighting "trolls" in Texas 203 drrayeye 11-Jul-19 00:09
Re: Gossip 189 Susan Doris 11-Jul-19 05:15
The Grand Poo-Bah of Pomposity 201 Barbelo 11-Jul-19 07:07
Don't worry, Pancho 211 drrayeye 11-Jul-19 08:04
Grovel. Grovel. 195 Barbelo 11-Jul-19 10:54
Re: The Grand Poo-Bah of Pomposity 194 Susan Doris 11-Jul-19 11:35
Getting an "innocent" to take the bait 218 drrayeye 11-Jul-19 20:42
Re: Mainstream and Alternative Ideas 209 Martin Stower 10-Jul-19 18:09
Re: Mainstream and Alternative Ideas 195 Susan Doris 11-Jul-19 05:19
Re: Mainstream and Alternative Ideas 214 Thanos5150 11-Jul-19 02:48
Re: Mainstream and Alternative Ideas 198 Corpuscles 11-Jul-19 07:04
Re: Mainstream and Alternative Ideas 182 Thanos5150 11-Jul-19 15:37
Unfortunately 203 drrayeye 11-Jul-19 17:52
Re: Unfortunately 193 Corpuscles 12-Jul-19 00:09
Level 3 202 drrayeye 12-Jul-19 00:48
Re: Unfortunately 181 Thanos5150 12-Jul-19 15:06
Re: Unfortunately 216 cladking 12-Jul-19 17:10
Re: Mainstream and Alternative Ideas 215 kborissov 12-Jul-19 02:01
Re: Mainstream and Alternative Ideas 210 Corpuscles 12-Jul-19 02:59
Australian jargon 211 drrayeye 10-Jul-19 17:39
Re: Australian jargon 233 Martin Stower 10-Jul-19 18:16
Re: Australian jargon 197 drrayeye 11-Jul-19 00:20
Re: Australian jargon 205 Corpuscles 10-Jul-19 23:58
Thanks 215 drrayeye 11-Jul-19 00:12
Re: Australian jargon 192 cladking 11-Jul-19 01:00
Re: Australian jargon 224 Corpuscles 11-Jul-19 01:47
Re: Australian jargon 237 cladking 11-Jul-19 02:44
Re: Australian jargon 212 Corpuscles 11-Jul-19 03:58
Re: Australian jargon 217 Thanos5150 11-Jul-19 04:02
Re: Australian jargon 194 cladking 11-Jul-19 04:22
Re: Australian jargon 214 Corpuscles 11-Jul-19 04:50
Re: Australian jargon 192 cladking 11-Jul-19 14:31
Re: Australian jargon 206 Warwick 11-Jul-19 15:31
Re: Australian jargon 196 cladking 11-Jul-19 15:57
um 198 Warwick 11-Jul-19 17:01
Re: Mainstream and Alternative Ideas 220 cladking 11-Jul-19 01:11
Re: Mainstream and Alternative Ideas 208 cloister 11-Jul-19 13:32
Re: Mainstream and Alternative Ideas 194 Thanos5150 12-Jul-19 14:50
Re: Mainstream and Alternative Ideas 211 cloister 12-Jul-19 19:03
Re: Mainstream and Alternative Ideas 255 Thanos5150 13-Jul-19 01:33
Re: Mainstream and Alternative Ideas 228 AndyBlackard 11-Jul-19 19:40
Re: Mainstream and Alternative Ideas 188 Eddie Larry 11-Jul-19 19:47
Re: Mainstream and Alternative Ideas 212 Warwick 11-Jul-19 19:58
Re: Mainstream and Alternative Ideas 229 Dejus 12-Jul-19 11:20
the Dinosaur destroyer 374 hendrik dirker 12-Jul-19 15:02
Re: the Dinosaur destroyer 303 Robert Jameson 14-Sep-19 13:35


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