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Aine Wrote:
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> Sorry for wading in but...

Wade away.

> The importance of Fingerprints in the genre can't
> be understated. It's the first book I can remember
> that touted an advanced (or more advanced than its
> contemporaries) that didn't involve aliens and
> that gave good old human beings credit for being
> intelligent; human civilization and culture was
> simply older than was believed at the time, and
> had more time to develop things like astronomy,
> mathematics and engineering techniques.

I think people forget, but what kick started this "revolution" was John Anthony West's (with Robert Schoch) documentary The Mystery of the Sphinx (1993). Graham and Bauval's books followed in the few years after and I honestly do not believe they would have gotten the recognition they had without West and Schoch "paving the way" so to speak.

Very true though, before these guys the subject was largely related to ancient astronauts. There were others that took the LC tack before which unfortunately go unnoticed. The book kind of strays in the later chapters for my tastes, but Pyramid Odyssey by William R. Fix is an otherwise excellent book and just goes to show that many of the things people think are somehow "new ideas" in reality are old hat and have been talked about for more than 40yrs. Ironically if Fix had written that book 15yrs later it would have been a huge success.

> Coming on
> the heels of von Daniken and Sitchen, it was huge
> and very refreshing. That is was extremely
> well-written was a bonus.

Indeed.

> I'll buy that book too.

Me too.



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