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Thanos5150 Wrote:
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> > I took world mythology classes in college and
> was
> > fascinated by the worlds these stories
> inhabited.
> > I was, and still am, convinced that in many
> myths
> > and legends there is a nugget of truth, some
> event
> > that actually happened to prompt those stories.
>
> Are there any in particular you are holding out
> hope for or have a special interest in?

Oh, where to start? LOL

I do believe that some disaster struck Earth around the end of the Ice Age, one that had far-reaching effects on our ancestors. A comet, a gamma ray burst, something that wiped out civilization, upset the climate and even topography, and spurred massive migrations as people did the best they could to survive. I think that many of the myths that have come down to us are truly ancient--but unfortunately we have no way to date or cross-date them as yet.

As the dates for civilization get pushed back further and further, my hope is that they someday turn up an Ice Age civilization from remote antiquity. IMO the roots of what we now consider the beginnings of civilization began there, long before archaeologists and anthropologists are willing to admit or even consider.

The end of the Ice Age was devastating to cultures around the world. If we're going to find evidence of their existence, we need to do some serious looking in the places that were above water 20,000 or more years ago. We also need to dispense with the fairy tale that the Americas were unpopulated prior to 13,000 or so years ago. (Clovis First is alive and well, unfortunately.) There is plenty of evidence that that's simply not true. I live 30 miles from Meadowcroft and I know it isn't. And if people were in this part of the world that early, there is a two pronged dilemma: at the rate archaeologists claim people move, there have been people in the Americas for many tens of thousands of years and/or they didn't ONLY walk across the Bering Strait. There were other points of entry and other means of travel.

Along with that, our ancestors were not dumb cavemen. It's past time we gave them credit for their intelligence and curiosity.

I have a difficult time believing that AMH didn't advance at all culturally for over 100,000 years. It defies reason. We're nothing if not curious and inventive. The ice sheets would limit their incursion into certain regions, but some places were quite pleasant and they could actually live near the glaciers comfortably. With so much water tied up in the ice sheets and so much more land exposed, there would have been places they could have settled year round.

A lot of our mythology and folklore reflects real events. Just because we don't have the proper context in which to place them doesn't mean they didn't happen or are just fanciful superstition.


> Same here. Graham took a turn I have no interest
> in.

Yep. I have always been fascinated by plants, but drug filled woo doesn't interest me.

I jumped back in with Magicians of the Gods,
> but found it "lackluster" to put it politely. It
> is a strange thing, but the alternative genre of
> writers are fading away with time and no new
> generation has stepped up to take their place.
> Instead it seems the void has been filled by
> fringe YouTubers. We are getting old my friend.

Either that or some of what was considered fringe 20 years ago is moving into the mainstream. Other than the idea that Antarctica was once the scene of a great civilization, I always thought GH's ideas weren't all that far from mainstream. At the time I thought he was asking questions that the archaeologists should have been asking. The hypothesis that there was an Ice Age civilization at least on par with Egypt and Mesopotamia is a reasonable one and doesn't deserve the scorn that's been heaped upon it.

I still haven't read Magicians but I do want to read America Before.

I become more convinced that beings from other planets are using the Earth as a lunatic asylum ~ George Bernard Shaw

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Mainstream and Alternative Ideas 2043 Thanos5150 05-Jul-19 02:13
Re: Mainstream and Alternative Ideas 451 cladking 05-Jul-19 03:29
Re: Mainstream and Alternative Ideas 396 Thanos5150 05-Jul-19 04:07
Re: Mainstream and Alternative Ideas 421 Susan Doris 05-Jul-19 05:16
Re: Mainstream and Alternative Ideas 371 engbren 05-Jul-19 12:45
Re: Mainstream and Alternative Ideas 339 Thanos5150 06-Jul-19 01:19
Re: Mainstream and Alternative Ideas 339 engbren 08-Jul-19 13:54
Re: Mainstream and Alternative Ideas 360 Thanos5150 05-Jul-19 14:56
Re: Mainstream and Alternative Ideas 355 cladking 05-Jul-19 16:50
Re: Mainstream and Alternative Ideas 345 Susan Doris 05-Jul-19 17:24
Re: Mainstream and Alternative Ideas 338 Thanos5150 06-Jul-19 01:23
Re: Mainstream and Alternative Ideas 317 Susan Doris 06-Jul-19 05:04
Re: Mainstream and Alternative Ideas 328 Thanos5150 06-Jul-19 05:48
Re: Mainstream and Alternative Ideas 355 Aine 05-Jul-19 18:05
Re: Mainstream and Alternative Ideas 323 Thanos5150 06-Jul-19 01:11
Re: Mainstream and Alternative Ideas 308 Aine 06-Jul-19 16:35
Re: Mainstream and Alternative Ideas 324 cladking 06-Jul-19 18:23
Re: Mainstream and Alternative Ideas 324 Eddie Larry 06-Jul-19 20:12
Re: Mainstream and Alternative Ideas 335 Aine 06-Jul-19 20:48
Re: Mainstream and Alternative Ideas 315 cladking 07-Jul-19 00:06
Re: Mainstream and Alternative Ideas 293 Aine 07-Jul-19 00:22
Re: Mainstream and Alternative Ideas 346 cladking 07-Jul-19 00:58
Re: Mainstream and Alternative Ideas 302 Thanos5150 07-Jul-19 23:27
Re: Mainstream and Alternative Ideas 289 Aine 09-Jul-19 22:05
Re: Mainstream and Alternative Ideas 277 Thanos5150 09-Jul-19 23:40
Re: Mainstream and Alternative Ideas 294 Aine 10-Jul-19 01:43
Re: Mainstream and Alternative Ideas 287 Susan Doris 10-Jul-19 05:00
Re: Mainstream and Alternative Ideas 339 Susan Doris 06-Jul-19 09:52
Re: Mainstream and Alternative Ideas 335 Thanos5150 06-Jul-19 15:46
Re: Mainstream and Alternative Ideas 303 Aine 06-Jul-19 16:48
Re: Mainstream and Alternative Ideas 306 Thanos5150 07-Jul-19 15:05
Re: Mainstream and Alternative Ideas 311 Susan Doris 06-Jul-19 17:25
Re: Mainstream and Alternative Ideas 308 cladking 06-Jul-19 18:16
Re: Mainstream and Alternative Ideas 298 Eddie Larry 06-Jul-19 20:06
Re: Mainstream and Alternative Ideas 311 Thanos5150 07-Jul-19 15:30
Re: Mainstream and Alternative Ideas 309 Susan Doris 07-Jul-19 16:30
Re: Mainstream and Alternative Ideas 298 Thanos5150 07-Jul-19 17:51
Re: Mainstream and Alternative Ideas 316 Aine 07-Jul-19 22:56
Re: Mainstream and Alternative Ideas 309 Susan Doris 08-Jul-19 05:19
Re: Mainstream and Alternative Ideas 285 Aine 09-Jul-19 22:12
Re: Mainstream and Alternative Ideas 317 drrayeye 06-Jul-19 18:50
Re: Mainstream and Alternative Ideas 329 Thanos5150 07-Jul-19 16:07
Re: Mainstream and Alternative Ideas 314 cladking 07-Jul-19 16:56
Re: Mainstream and Alternative Ideas 303 Aine 07-Jul-19 22:31
Re: Mainstream and Alternative Ideas 328 Thanos5150 07-Jul-19 23:42
The advantage of scholarly "tricks" in formulating opinions 309 drrayeye 08-Jul-19 22:26
Re: The advantage of scholarly "tricks" in formulating opinions 327 Eddie Larry 09-Jul-19 00:55
Re: Mainstream and Alternative Ideas 293 cladking 07-Jul-19 17:42
Re: Mainstream and Alternative Ideas 322 Thanos5150 08-Jul-19 01:35
Re: Mainstream and Alternative Ideas 336 eyeofhorus33 08-Jul-19 21:12
Re: Mainstream and Alternative Ideas 308 Thanos5150 09-Jul-19 15:56
Re: Mainstream and Alternative Ideas 309 Susan Doris 09-Jul-19 16:45
Re: Mainstream and Alternative Ideas 288 Thanos5150 10-Jul-19 00:46
Re: Mainstream and Alternative Ideas 345 eyeofhorus33 09-Jul-19 20:21
Re: Mainstream and Alternative Ideas 293 Thanos5150 09-Jul-19 23:07
Re: Mainstream and Alternative Ideas 314 engbren 10-Jul-19 08:24
Re: Mainstream and Alternative Ideas 298 Thanos5150 11-Jul-19 02:14
Re: Mainstream and Alternative Ideas 298 engbren 02-Aug-19 09:27
Re: Mainstream and Alternative Ideas 310 Thanos5150 02-Aug-19 14:36
Re: Mainstream and Alternative Ideas 281 engbren 02-Aug-19 21:31
Re: Mainstream and Alternative Ideas 346 Thanos5150 03-Aug-19 14:22
Re: Mainstream and Alternative Ideas 279 Aine 09-Jul-19 22:07
Re: Mainstream and Alternative Ideas 395 Jgeeta 08-Jul-19 02:43
Re: Mainstream and Alternative Ideas 325 KsFisher 08-Jul-19 19:28
Re: Mainstream and Alternative Ideas 337 KsFisher 08-Jul-19 19:16
Re: Mainstream and Alternative Ideas 313 cladking 09-Jul-19 13:08
Re: Mainstream and Alternative Ideas 313 KsFisher 09-Jul-19 19:49
Re: Mainstream and Alternative Ideas 281 cladking 11-Jul-19 01:06
Re: Mainstream and Alternative Ideas 281 Susan Doris 11-Jul-19 05:12
Re: Mainstream and Alternative Ideas 339 Corpuscles 10-Jul-19 04:16
Re: Mainstream and Alternative Ideas 368 Susan Doris 10-Jul-19 05:15
Re: Mainstream and Alternative Ideas 299 Corpuscles 10-Jul-19 06:21
Re: Mainstream and Alternative Ideas 355 Susan Doris 10-Jul-19 10:21
Gossip 314 drrayeye 10-Jul-19 17:46
Troll 334 eyeofhorus33 10-Jul-19 18:54
Re: Troll 309 Sirfiroth 10-Jul-19 19:03
Re: Troll 351 eyeofhorus33 10-Jul-19 19:08
An explanation in "Cowboy" 338 drrayeye 10-Jul-19 23:42
Other times, I poke the dog with a stick. 293 drrayeye 10-Jul-19 23:15
Not at all, Ray 361 eyeofhorus33 11-Jul-19 07:19
Matt's rules 302 drrayeye 11-Jul-19 07:52
Ray gets schooled 384 eyeofhorus33 11-Jul-19 11:31
Ho Ho Ho 313 drrayeye 11-Jul-19 14:12
Re: Ray gets schooled 305 Martin Stower 11-Jul-19 21:10
Fighting "trolls" in Texas 302 drrayeye 11-Jul-19 00:09
Re: Gossip 283 Susan Doris 11-Jul-19 05:15
The Grand Poo-Bah of Pomposity 299 Barbelo 11-Jul-19 07:07
Don't worry, Pancho 312 drrayeye 11-Jul-19 08:04
Grovel. Grovel. 291 Barbelo 11-Jul-19 10:54
Re: The Grand Poo-Bah of Pomposity 293 Susan Doris 11-Jul-19 11:35
Getting an "innocent" to take the bait 322 drrayeye 11-Jul-19 20:42
Re: Mainstream and Alternative Ideas 307 Martin Stower 10-Jul-19 18:09
Re: Mainstream and Alternative Ideas 289 Susan Doris 11-Jul-19 05:19
Re: Mainstream and Alternative Ideas 323 Thanos5150 11-Jul-19 02:48
Re: Mainstream and Alternative Ideas 291 Corpuscles 11-Jul-19 07:04
Re: Mainstream and Alternative Ideas 282 Thanos5150 11-Jul-19 15:37
Unfortunately 305 drrayeye 11-Jul-19 17:52
Re: Unfortunately 291 Corpuscles 12-Jul-19 00:09
Level 3 301 drrayeye 12-Jul-19 00:48
Re: Unfortunately 277 Thanos5150 12-Jul-19 15:06
Re: Unfortunately 316 cladking 12-Jul-19 17:10
Re: Mainstream and Alternative Ideas 320 kborissov 12-Jul-19 02:01
Re: Mainstream and Alternative Ideas 310 Corpuscles 12-Jul-19 02:59
Australian jargon 312 drrayeye 10-Jul-19 17:39
Re: Australian jargon 336 Martin Stower 10-Jul-19 18:16
Re: Australian jargon 295 drrayeye 11-Jul-19 00:20
Re: Australian jargon 304 Corpuscles 10-Jul-19 23:58
Thanks 313 drrayeye 11-Jul-19 00:12
Re: Australian jargon 286 cladking 11-Jul-19 01:00
Re: Australian jargon 321 Corpuscles 11-Jul-19 01:47
Re: Australian jargon 333 cladking 11-Jul-19 02:44
Re: Australian jargon 309 Corpuscles 11-Jul-19 03:58
Re: Australian jargon 322 Thanos5150 11-Jul-19 04:02
Re: Australian jargon 295 cladking 11-Jul-19 04:22
Re: Australian jargon 310 Corpuscles 11-Jul-19 04:50
Re: Australian jargon 309 cladking 11-Jul-19 14:31
Re: Australian jargon 308 Warwick 11-Jul-19 15:31
Re: Australian jargon 291 cladking 11-Jul-19 15:57
um 297 Warwick 11-Jul-19 17:01
Re: Mainstream and Alternative Ideas 317 cladking 11-Jul-19 01:11
Re: Mainstream and Alternative Ideas 312 cloister 11-Jul-19 13:32
Re: Mainstream and Alternative Ideas 294 Thanos5150 12-Jul-19 14:50
Re: Mainstream and Alternative Ideas 307 cloister 12-Jul-19 19:03
Re: Mainstream and Alternative Ideas 362 Thanos5150 13-Jul-19 01:33
Re: Mainstream and Alternative Ideas 329 AndyBlackard 11-Jul-19 19:40
Re: Mainstream and Alternative Ideas 287 Eddie Larry 11-Jul-19 19:47
Re: Mainstream and Alternative Ideas 313 Warwick 11-Jul-19 19:58
Re: Mainstream and Alternative Ideas 338 Dejus 12-Jul-19 11:20
the Dinosaur destroyer 575 hendrik dirker 12-Jul-19 15:02
Re: the Dinosaur destroyer 441 Robert Jameson 14-Sep-19 13:35


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