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Thanos5150 Wrote:
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> > I took world mythology classes in college and
> was
> > fascinated by the worlds these stories
> inhabited.
> > I was, and still am, convinced that in many
> myths
> > and legends there is a nugget of truth, some
> event
> > that actually happened to prompt those stories.
>
> Are there any in particular you are holding out
> hope for or have a special interest in?

Oh, where to start? LOL

I do believe that some disaster struck Earth around the end of the Ice Age, one that had far-reaching effects on our ancestors. A comet, a gamma ray burst, something that wiped out civilization, upset the climate and even topography, and spurred massive migrations as people did the best they could to survive. I think that many of the myths that have come down to us are truly ancient--but unfortunately we have no way to date or cross-date them as yet.

As the dates for civilization get pushed back further and further, my hope is that they someday turn up an Ice Age civilization from remote antiquity. IMO the roots of what we now consider the beginnings of civilization began there, long before archaeologists and anthropologists are willing to admit or even consider.

The end of the Ice Age was devastating to cultures around the world. If we're going to find evidence of their existence, we need to do some serious looking in the places that were above water 20,000 or more years ago. We also need to dispense with the fairy tale that the Americas were unpopulated prior to 13,000 or so years ago. (Clovis First is alive and well, unfortunately.) There is plenty of evidence that that's simply not true. I live 30 miles from Meadowcroft and I know it isn't. And if people were in this part of the world that early, there is a two pronged dilemma: at the rate archaeologists claim people move, there have been people in the Americas for many tens of thousands of years and/or they didn't ONLY walk across the Bering Strait. There were other points of entry and other means of travel.

Along with that, our ancestors were not dumb cavemen. It's past time we gave them credit for their intelligence and curiosity.

I have a difficult time believing that AMH didn't advance at all culturally for over 100,000 years. It defies reason. We're nothing if not curious and inventive. The ice sheets would limit their incursion into certain regions, but some places were quite pleasant and they could actually live near the glaciers comfortably. With so much water tied up in the ice sheets and so much more land exposed, there would have been places they could have settled year round.

A lot of our mythology and folklore reflects real events. Just because we don't have the proper context in which to place them doesn't mean they didn't happen or are just fanciful superstition.


> Same here. Graham took a turn I have no interest
> in.

Yep. I have always been fascinated by plants, but drug filled woo doesn't interest me.

I jumped back in with Magicians of the Gods,
> but found it "lackluster" to put it politely. It
> is a strange thing, but the alternative genre of
> writers are fading away with time and no new
> generation has stepped up to take their place.
> Instead it seems the void has been filled by
> fringe YouTubers. We are getting old my friend.

Either that or some of what was considered fringe 20 years ago is moving into the mainstream. Other than the idea that Antarctica was once the scene of a great civilization, I always thought GH's ideas weren't all that far from mainstream. At the time I thought he was asking questions that the archaeologists should have been asking. The hypothesis that there was an Ice Age civilization at least on par with Egypt and Mesopotamia is a reasonable one and doesn't deserve the scorn that's been heaped upon it.

I still haven't read Magicians but I do want to read America Before.

I become more convinced that beings from other planets are using the Earth as a lunatic asylum ~ George Bernard Shaw

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Mainstream and Alternative Ideas 2022 Thanos5150 05-Jul-19 02:13
Re: Mainstream and Alternative Ideas 440 cladking 05-Jul-19 03:29
Re: Mainstream and Alternative Ideas 384 Thanos5150 05-Jul-19 04:07
Re: Mainstream and Alternative Ideas 408 Susan Doris 05-Jul-19 05:16
Re: Mainstream and Alternative Ideas 360 engbren 05-Jul-19 12:45
Re: Mainstream and Alternative Ideas 327 Thanos5150 06-Jul-19 01:19
Re: Mainstream and Alternative Ideas 327 engbren 08-Jul-19 13:54
Re: Mainstream and Alternative Ideas 349 Thanos5150 05-Jul-19 14:56
Re: Mainstream and Alternative Ideas 342 cladking 05-Jul-19 16:50
Re: Mainstream and Alternative Ideas 333 Susan Doris 05-Jul-19 17:24
Re: Mainstream and Alternative Ideas 325 Thanos5150 06-Jul-19 01:23
Re: Mainstream and Alternative Ideas 306 Susan Doris 06-Jul-19 05:04
Re: Mainstream and Alternative Ideas 316 Thanos5150 06-Jul-19 05:48
Re: Mainstream and Alternative Ideas 341 Aine 05-Jul-19 18:05
Re: Mainstream and Alternative Ideas 311 Thanos5150 06-Jul-19 01:11
Re: Mainstream and Alternative Ideas 296 Aine 06-Jul-19 16:35
Re: Mainstream and Alternative Ideas 312 cladking 06-Jul-19 18:23
Re: Mainstream and Alternative Ideas 312 Eddie Larry 06-Jul-19 20:12
Re: Mainstream and Alternative Ideas 323 Aine 06-Jul-19 20:48
Re: Mainstream and Alternative Ideas 303 cladking 07-Jul-19 00:06
Re: Mainstream and Alternative Ideas 281 Aine 07-Jul-19 00:22
Re: Mainstream and Alternative Ideas 332 cladking 07-Jul-19 00:58
Re: Mainstream and Alternative Ideas 291 Thanos5150 07-Jul-19 23:27
Re: Mainstream and Alternative Ideas 277 Aine 09-Jul-19 22:05
Re: Mainstream and Alternative Ideas 266 Thanos5150 09-Jul-19 23:40
Re: Mainstream and Alternative Ideas 279 Aine 10-Jul-19 01:43
Re: Mainstream and Alternative Ideas 275 Susan Doris 10-Jul-19 05:00
Re: Mainstream and Alternative Ideas 327 Susan Doris 06-Jul-19 09:52
Re: Mainstream and Alternative Ideas 323 Thanos5150 06-Jul-19 15:46
Re: Mainstream and Alternative Ideas 291 Aine 06-Jul-19 16:48
Re: Mainstream and Alternative Ideas 294 Thanos5150 07-Jul-19 15:05
Re: Mainstream and Alternative Ideas 299 Susan Doris 06-Jul-19 17:25
Re: Mainstream and Alternative Ideas 296 cladking 06-Jul-19 18:16
Re: Mainstream and Alternative Ideas 287 Eddie Larry 06-Jul-19 20:06
Re: Mainstream and Alternative Ideas 300 Thanos5150 07-Jul-19 15:30
Re: Mainstream and Alternative Ideas 291 Susan Doris 07-Jul-19 16:30
Re: Mainstream and Alternative Ideas 286 Thanos5150 07-Jul-19 17:51
Re: Mainstream and Alternative Ideas 302 Aine 07-Jul-19 22:56
Re: Mainstream and Alternative Ideas 297 Susan Doris 08-Jul-19 05:19
Re: Mainstream and Alternative Ideas 273 Aine 09-Jul-19 22:12
Re: Mainstream and Alternative Ideas 298 drrayeye 06-Jul-19 18:50
Re: Mainstream and Alternative Ideas 317 Thanos5150 07-Jul-19 16:07
Re: Mainstream and Alternative Ideas 302 cladking 07-Jul-19 16:56
Re: Mainstream and Alternative Ideas 292 Aine 07-Jul-19 22:31
Re: Mainstream and Alternative Ideas 316 Thanos5150 07-Jul-19 23:42
The advantage of scholarly "tricks" in formulating opinions 298 drrayeye 08-Jul-19 22:26
Re: The advantage of scholarly "tricks" in formulating opinions 315 Eddie Larry 09-Jul-19 00:55
Re: Mainstream and Alternative Ideas 281 cladking 07-Jul-19 17:42
Re: Mainstream and Alternative Ideas 311 Thanos5150 08-Jul-19 01:35
Re: Mainstream and Alternative Ideas 325 eyeofhorus33 08-Jul-19 21:12
Re: Mainstream and Alternative Ideas 296 Thanos5150 09-Jul-19 15:56
Re: Mainstream and Alternative Ideas 295 Susan Doris 09-Jul-19 16:45
Re: Mainstream and Alternative Ideas 276 Thanos5150 10-Jul-19 00:46
Re: Mainstream and Alternative Ideas 333 eyeofhorus33 09-Jul-19 20:21
Re: Mainstream and Alternative Ideas 281 Thanos5150 09-Jul-19 23:07
Re: Mainstream and Alternative Ideas 298 engbren 10-Jul-19 08:24
Re: Mainstream and Alternative Ideas 286 Thanos5150 11-Jul-19 02:14
Re: Mainstream and Alternative Ideas 286 engbren 02-Aug-19 09:27
Re: Mainstream and Alternative Ideas 297 Thanos5150 02-Aug-19 14:36
Re: Mainstream and Alternative Ideas 270 engbren 02-Aug-19 21:31
Re: Mainstream and Alternative Ideas 331 Thanos5150 03-Aug-19 14:22
Re: Mainstream and Alternative Ideas 266 Aine 09-Jul-19 22:07
Re: Mainstream and Alternative Ideas 383 Jgeeta 08-Jul-19 02:43
Re: Mainstream and Alternative Ideas 310 KsFisher 08-Jul-19 19:28
Re: Mainstream and Alternative Ideas 322 KsFisher 08-Jul-19 19:16
Re: Mainstream and Alternative Ideas 302 cladking 09-Jul-19 13:08
Re: Mainstream and Alternative Ideas 301 KsFisher 09-Jul-19 19:49
Re: Mainstream and Alternative Ideas 266 cladking 11-Jul-19 01:06
Re: Mainstream and Alternative Ideas 269 Susan Doris 11-Jul-19 05:12
Re: Mainstream and Alternative Ideas 327 Corpuscles 10-Jul-19 04:16
Re: Mainstream and Alternative Ideas 356 Susan Doris 10-Jul-19 05:15
Re: Mainstream and Alternative Ideas 288 Corpuscles 10-Jul-19 06:21
Re: Mainstream and Alternative Ideas 344 Susan Doris 10-Jul-19 10:21
Gossip 302 drrayeye 10-Jul-19 17:46
Troll 322 eyeofhorus33 10-Jul-19 18:54
Re: Troll 298 Sirfiroth 10-Jul-19 19:03
Re: Troll 339 eyeofhorus33 10-Jul-19 19:08
An explanation in "Cowboy" 325 drrayeye 10-Jul-19 23:42
Other times, I poke the dog with a stick. 281 drrayeye 10-Jul-19 23:15
Not at all, Ray 346 eyeofhorus33 11-Jul-19 07:19
Matt's rules 291 drrayeye 11-Jul-19 07:52
Ray gets schooled 366 eyeofhorus33 11-Jul-19 11:31
Ho Ho Ho 302 drrayeye 11-Jul-19 14:12
Re: Ray gets schooled 293 Martin Stower 11-Jul-19 21:10
Fighting "trolls" in Texas 289 drrayeye 11-Jul-19 00:09
Re: Gossip 271 Susan Doris 11-Jul-19 05:15
The Grand Poo-Bah of Pomposity 287 Barbelo 11-Jul-19 07:07
Don't worry, Pancho 300 drrayeye 11-Jul-19 08:04
Grovel. Grovel. 280 Barbelo 11-Jul-19 10:54
Re: The Grand Poo-Bah of Pomposity 281 Susan Doris 11-Jul-19 11:35
Getting an "innocent" to take the bait 310 drrayeye 11-Jul-19 20:42
Re: Mainstream and Alternative Ideas 295 Martin Stower 10-Jul-19 18:09
Re: Mainstream and Alternative Ideas 278 Susan Doris 11-Jul-19 05:19
Re: Mainstream and Alternative Ideas 310 Thanos5150 11-Jul-19 02:48
Re: Mainstream and Alternative Ideas 280 Corpuscles 11-Jul-19 07:04
Re: Mainstream and Alternative Ideas 270 Thanos5150 11-Jul-19 15:37
Unfortunately 291 drrayeye 11-Jul-19 17:52
Re: Unfortunately 280 Corpuscles 12-Jul-19 00:09
Level 3 290 drrayeye 12-Jul-19 00:48
Re: Unfortunately 266 Thanos5150 12-Jul-19 15:06
Re: Unfortunately 305 cladking 12-Jul-19 17:10
Re: Mainstream and Alternative Ideas 307 kborissov 12-Jul-19 02:01
Re: Mainstream and Alternative Ideas 299 Corpuscles 12-Jul-19 02:59
Australian jargon 300 drrayeye 10-Jul-19 17:39
Re: Australian jargon 324 Martin Stower 10-Jul-19 18:16
Re: Australian jargon 283 drrayeye 11-Jul-19 00:20
Re: Australian jargon 293 Corpuscles 10-Jul-19 23:58
Thanks 302 drrayeye 11-Jul-19 00:12
Re: Australian jargon 275 cladking 11-Jul-19 01:00
Re: Australian jargon 309 Corpuscles 11-Jul-19 01:47
Re: Australian jargon 322 cladking 11-Jul-19 02:44
Re: Australian jargon 297 Corpuscles 11-Jul-19 03:58
Re: Australian jargon 311 Thanos5150 11-Jul-19 04:02
Re: Australian jargon 284 cladking 11-Jul-19 04:22
Re: Australian jargon 298 Corpuscles 11-Jul-19 04:50
Re: Australian jargon 296 cladking 11-Jul-19 14:31
Re: Australian jargon 296 Warwick 11-Jul-19 15:31
Re: Australian jargon 280 cladking 11-Jul-19 15:57
um 286 Warwick 11-Jul-19 17:01
Re: Mainstream and Alternative Ideas 306 cladking 11-Jul-19 01:11
Re: Mainstream and Alternative Ideas 299 cloister 11-Jul-19 13:32
Re: Mainstream and Alternative Ideas 281 Thanos5150 12-Jul-19 14:50
Re: Mainstream and Alternative Ideas 296 cloister 12-Jul-19 19:03
Re: Mainstream and Alternative Ideas 350 Thanos5150 13-Jul-19 01:33
Re: Mainstream and Alternative Ideas 315 AndyBlackard 11-Jul-19 19:40
Re: Mainstream and Alternative Ideas 276 Eddie Larry 11-Jul-19 19:47
Re: Mainstream and Alternative Ideas 302 Warwick 11-Jul-19 19:58
Re: Mainstream and Alternative Ideas 325 Dejus 12-Jul-19 11:20
the Dinosaur destroyer 550 hendrik dirker 12-Jul-19 15:02
Re: the Dinosaur destroyer 428 Robert Jameson 14-Sep-19 13:35


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