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Thanos5150 Wrote:
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> > I took world mythology classes in college and
> was
> > fascinated by the worlds these stories
> inhabited.
> > I was, and still am, convinced that in many
> myths
> > and legends there is a nugget of truth, some
> event
> > that actually happened to prompt those stories.
>
> Are there any in particular you are holding out
> hope for or have a special interest in?

Oh, where to start? LOL

I do believe that some disaster struck Earth around the end of the Ice Age, one that had far-reaching effects on our ancestors. A comet, a gamma ray burst, something that wiped out civilization, upset the climate and even topography, and spurred massive migrations as people did the best they could to survive. I think that many of the myths that have come down to us are truly ancient--but unfortunately we have no way to date or cross-date them as yet.

As the dates for civilization get pushed back further and further, my hope is that they someday turn up an Ice Age civilization from remote antiquity. IMO the roots of what we now consider the beginnings of civilization began there, long before archaeologists and anthropologists are willing to admit or even consider.

The end of the Ice Age was devastating to cultures around the world. If we're going to find evidence of their existence, we need to do some serious looking in the places that were above water 20,000 or more years ago. We also need to dispense with the fairy tale that the Americas were unpopulated prior to 13,000 or so years ago. (Clovis First is alive and well, unfortunately.) There is plenty of evidence that that's simply not true. I live 30 miles from Meadowcroft and I know it isn't. And if people were in this part of the world that early, there is a two pronged dilemma: at the rate archaeologists claim people move, there have been people in the Americas for many tens of thousands of years and/or they didn't ONLY walk across the Bering Strait. There were other points of entry and other means of travel.

Along with that, our ancestors were not dumb cavemen. It's past time we gave them credit for their intelligence and curiosity.

I have a difficult time believing that AMH didn't advance at all culturally for over 100,000 years. It defies reason. We're nothing if not curious and inventive. The ice sheets would limit their incursion into certain regions, but some places were quite pleasant and they could actually live near the glaciers comfortably. With so much water tied up in the ice sheets and so much more land exposed, there would have been places they could have settled year round.

A lot of our mythology and folklore reflects real events. Just because we don't have the proper context in which to place them doesn't mean they didn't happen or are just fanciful superstition.


> Same here. Graham took a turn I have no interest
> in.

Yep. I have always been fascinated by plants, but drug filled woo doesn't interest me.

I jumped back in with Magicians of the Gods,
> but found it "lackluster" to put it politely. It
> is a strange thing, but the alternative genre of
> writers are fading away with time and no new
> generation has stepped up to take their place.
> Instead it seems the void has been filled by
> fringe YouTubers. We are getting old my friend.

Either that or some of what was considered fringe 20 years ago is moving into the mainstream. Other than the idea that Antarctica was once the scene of a great civilization, I always thought GH's ideas weren't all that far from mainstream. At the time I thought he was asking questions that the archaeologists should have been asking. The hypothesis that there was an Ice Age civilization at least on par with Egypt and Mesopotamia is a reasonable one and doesn't deserve the scorn that's been heaped upon it.

I still haven't read Magicians but I do want to read America Before.

Stupidity is knowing the truth, seeing the truth but still believing the lies. And that is more infectious than any other disease. ~ Richard Feynman

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Mainstream and Alternative Ideas 1867 Thanos5150 05-Jul-19 02:13
Re: Mainstream and Alternative Ideas 348 cladking 05-Jul-19 03:29
Re: Mainstream and Alternative Ideas 299 Thanos5150 05-Jul-19 04:07
Re: Mainstream and Alternative Ideas 324 Susan Doris 05-Jul-19 05:16
Re: Mainstream and Alternative Ideas 276 engbren 05-Jul-19 12:45
Re: Mainstream and Alternative Ideas 240 Thanos5150 06-Jul-19 01:19
Re: Mainstream and Alternative Ideas 231 engbren 08-Jul-19 13:54
Re: Mainstream and Alternative Ideas 261 Thanos5150 05-Jul-19 14:56
Re: Mainstream and Alternative Ideas 253 cladking 05-Jul-19 16:50
Re: Mainstream and Alternative Ideas 248 Susan Doris 05-Jul-19 17:24
Re: Mainstream and Alternative Ideas 236 Thanos5150 06-Jul-19 01:23
Re: Mainstream and Alternative Ideas 221 Susan Doris 06-Jul-19 05:04
Re: Mainstream and Alternative Ideas 223 Thanos5150 06-Jul-19 05:48
Re: Mainstream and Alternative Ideas 248 Aine 05-Jul-19 18:05
Re: Mainstream and Alternative Ideas 223 Thanos5150 06-Jul-19 01:11
Re: Mainstream and Alternative Ideas 207 Aine 06-Jul-19 16:35
Re: Mainstream and Alternative Ideas 218 cladking 06-Jul-19 18:23
Re: Mainstream and Alternative Ideas 225 Eddie Larry 06-Jul-19 20:12
Re: Mainstream and Alternative Ideas 233 Aine 06-Jul-19 20:48
Re: Mainstream and Alternative Ideas 217 cladking 07-Jul-19 00:06
Re: Mainstream and Alternative Ideas 194 Aine 07-Jul-19 00:22
Re: Mainstream and Alternative Ideas 244 cladking 07-Jul-19 00:58
Re: Mainstream and Alternative Ideas 203 Thanos5150 07-Jul-19 23:27
Re: Mainstream and Alternative Ideas 188 Aine 09-Jul-19 22:05
Re: Mainstream and Alternative Ideas 178 Thanos5150 09-Jul-19 23:40
Re: Mainstream and Alternative Ideas 188 Aine 10-Jul-19 01:43
Re: Mainstream and Alternative Ideas 191 Susan Doris 10-Jul-19 05:00
Re: Mainstream and Alternative Ideas 231 Susan Doris 06-Jul-19 09:52
Re: Mainstream and Alternative Ideas 229 Thanos5150 06-Jul-19 15:46
Re: Mainstream and Alternative Ideas 203 Aine 06-Jul-19 16:48
Re: Mainstream and Alternative Ideas 208 Thanos5150 07-Jul-19 15:05
Re: Mainstream and Alternative Ideas 214 Susan Doris 06-Jul-19 17:25
Re: Mainstream and Alternative Ideas 204 cladking 06-Jul-19 18:16
Re: Mainstream and Alternative Ideas 200 Eddie Larry 06-Jul-19 20:06
Re: Mainstream and Alternative Ideas 214 Thanos5150 07-Jul-19 15:30
Re: Mainstream and Alternative Ideas 205 Susan Doris 07-Jul-19 16:30
Re: Mainstream and Alternative Ideas 202 Thanos5150 07-Jul-19 17:51
Re: Mainstream and Alternative Ideas 209 Aine 07-Jul-19 22:56
Re: Mainstream and Alternative Ideas 212 Susan Doris 08-Jul-19 05:19
Re: Mainstream and Alternative Ideas 185 Aine 09-Jul-19 22:12
Re: Mainstream and Alternative Ideas 215 drrayeye 06-Jul-19 18:50
Re: Mainstream and Alternative Ideas 225 Thanos5150 07-Jul-19 16:07
Re: Mainstream and Alternative Ideas 216 cladking 07-Jul-19 16:56
Re: Mainstream and Alternative Ideas 203 Aine 07-Jul-19 22:31
Re: Mainstream and Alternative Ideas 221 Thanos5150 07-Jul-19 23:42
The advantage of scholarly "tricks" in formulating opinions 209 drrayeye 08-Jul-19 22:26
Re: The advantage of scholarly "tricks" in formulating opinions 224 Eddie Larry 09-Jul-19 00:55
Re: Mainstream and Alternative Ideas 194 cladking 07-Jul-19 17:42
Re: Mainstream and Alternative Ideas 221 Thanos5150 08-Jul-19 01:35
Re: Mainstream and Alternative Ideas 234 eyeofhorus33 08-Jul-19 21:12
Re: Mainstream and Alternative Ideas 208 Thanos5150 09-Jul-19 15:56
Re: Mainstream and Alternative Ideas 204 Susan Doris 09-Jul-19 16:45
Re: Mainstream and Alternative Ideas 187 Thanos5150 10-Jul-19 00:46
Re: Mainstream and Alternative Ideas 241 eyeofhorus33 09-Jul-19 20:21
Re: Mainstream and Alternative Ideas 191 Thanos5150 09-Jul-19 23:07
Re: Mainstream and Alternative Ideas 207 engbren 10-Jul-19 08:24
Re: Mainstream and Alternative Ideas 197 Thanos5150 11-Jul-19 02:14
Re: Mainstream and Alternative Ideas 199 engbren 02-Aug-19 09:27
Re: Mainstream and Alternative Ideas 211 Thanos5150 02-Aug-19 14:36
Re: Mainstream and Alternative Ideas 181 engbren 02-Aug-19 21:31
Re: Mainstream and Alternative Ideas 235 Thanos5150 03-Aug-19 14:22
Re: Mainstream and Alternative Ideas 179 Aine 09-Jul-19 22:07
Re: Mainstream and Alternative Ideas 298 Jgeeta 08-Jul-19 02:43
Re: Mainstream and Alternative Ideas 217 KsFisher 08-Jul-19 19:28
Re: Mainstream and Alternative Ideas 224 KsFisher 08-Jul-19 19:16
Re: Mainstream and Alternative Ideas 207 cladking 09-Jul-19 13:08
Re: Mainstream and Alternative Ideas 209 KsFisher 09-Jul-19 19:49
Re: Mainstream and Alternative Ideas 180 cladking 11-Jul-19 01:06
Re: Mainstream and Alternative Ideas 183 Susan Doris 11-Jul-19 05:12
Re: Mainstream and Alternative Ideas 234 Corpuscles 10-Jul-19 04:16
Re: Mainstream and Alternative Ideas 264 Susan Doris 10-Jul-19 05:15
Re: Mainstream and Alternative Ideas 199 Corpuscles 10-Jul-19 06:21
Re: Mainstream and Alternative Ideas 252 Susan Doris 10-Jul-19 10:21
Gossip 215 drrayeye 10-Jul-19 17:46
Troll 232 eyeofhorus33 10-Jul-19 18:54
Re: Troll 211 Sirfiroth 10-Jul-19 19:03
Re: Troll 245 eyeofhorus33 10-Jul-19 19:08
An explanation in "Cowboy" 232 drrayeye 10-Jul-19 23:42
Other times, I poke the dog with a stick. 198 drrayeye 10-Jul-19 23:15
Not at all, Ray 242 eyeofhorus33 11-Jul-19 07:19
Matt's rules 199 drrayeye 11-Jul-19 07:52
Ray gets schooled 259 eyeofhorus33 11-Jul-19 11:31
Ho Ho Ho 211 drrayeye 11-Jul-19 14:12
Re: Ray gets schooled 205 Martin Stower 11-Jul-19 21:10
Fighting "trolls" in Texas 203 drrayeye 11-Jul-19 00:09
Re: Gossip 189 Susan Doris 11-Jul-19 05:15
The Grand Poo-Bah of Pomposity 200 Barbelo 11-Jul-19 07:07
Don't worry, Pancho 210 drrayeye 11-Jul-19 08:04
Grovel. Grovel. 194 Barbelo 11-Jul-19 10:54
Re: The Grand Poo-Bah of Pomposity 192 Susan Doris 11-Jul-19 11:35
Getting an "innocent" to take the bait 217 drrayeye 11-Jul-19 20:42
Re: Mainstream and Alternative Ideas 208 Martin Stower 10-Jul-19 18:09
Re: Mainstream and Alternative Ideas 194 Susan Doris 11-Jul-19 05:19
Re: Mainstream and Alternative Ideas 213 Thanos5150 11-Jul-19 02:48
Re: Mainstream and Alternative Ideas 198 Corpuscles 11-Jul-19 07:04
Re: Mainstream and Alternative Ideas 182 Thanos5150 11-Jul-19 15:37
Unfortunately 202 drrayeye 11-Jul-19 17:52
Re: Unfortunately 192 Corpuscles 12-Jul-19 00:09
Level 3 202 drrayeye 12-Jul-19 00:48
Re: Unfortunately 181 Thanos5150 12-Jul-19 15:06
Re: Unfortunately 214 cladking 12-Jul-19 17:10
Re: Mainstream and Alternative Ideas 214 kborissov 12-Jul-19 02:01
Re: Mainstream and Alternative Ideas 209 Corpuscles 12-Jul-19 02:59
Australian jargon 210 drrayeye 10-Jul-19 17:39
Re: Australian jargon 233 Martin Stower 10-Jul-19 18:16
Re: Australian jargon 196 drrayeye 11-Jul-19 00:20
Re: Australian jargon 204 Corpuscles 10-Jul-19 23:58
Thanks 214 drrayeye 11-Jul-19 00:12
Re: Australian jargon 192 cladking 11-Jul-19 01:00
Re: Australian jargon 224 Corpuscles 11-Jul-19 01:47
Re: Australian jargon 236 cladking 11-Jul-19 02:44
Re: Australian jargon 211 Corpuscles 11-Jul-19 03:58
Re: Australian jargon 217 Thanos5150 11-Jul-19 04:02
Re: Australian jargon 194 cladking 11-Jul-19 04:22
Re: Australian jargon 214 Corpuscles 11-Jul-19 04:50
Re: Australian jargon 190 cladking 11-Jul-19 14:31
Re: Australian jargon 205 Warwick 11-Jul-19 15:31
Re: Australian jargon 196 cladking 11-Jul-19 15:57
um 196 Warwick 11-Jul-19 17:01
Re: Mainstream and Alternative Ideas 220 cladking 11-Jul-19 01:11
Re: Mainstream and Alternative Ideas 208 cloister 11-Jul-19 13:32
Re: Mainstream and Alternative Ideas 193 Thanos5150 12-Jul-19 14:50
Re: Mainstream and Alternative Ideas 211 cloister 12-Jul-19 19:03
Re: Mainstream and Alternative Ideas 253 Thanos5150 13-Jul-19 01:33
Re: Mainstream and Alternative Ideas 228 AndyBlackard 11-Jul-19 19:40
Re: Mainstream and Alternative Ideas 187 Eddie Larry 11-Jul-19 19:47
Re: Mainstream and Alternative Ideas 211 Warwick 11-Jul-19 19:58
Re: Mainstream and Alternative Ideas 228 Dejus 12-Jul-19 11:20
the Dinosaur destroyer 374 hendrik dirker 12-Jul-19 15:02
Re: the Dinosaur destroyer 303 Robert Jameson 14-Sep-19 13:35


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