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Acknowledging your error in respect of the peacock's ability to fly, you wrote:


it seem (sic) some of the younger and healthier peacocks are able to fly short distances. So I probably should have said; “ … robbing the species of most of the benefits of flight.”

There is no 'seems' about it. They can - and often do - fly.

As for you limiting the damage by inventing the idea that flight is capable by only "some of the younger and healthier" birds of the species, that's just BS.

The species has evolved with feathered wings so that ALL peacocks should be capable of flight. Indeed, as with all species there are rare, anomalous genetic mutations which manifest as a 'disability' but your use of the word 'some' suggests widespread commonality where the phrase 'in very rare circumstances' would have been more befitting of your erroneous claim.

Let me explain why.

Your statement above is akin to me stating that only "some of the younger and healthier" humans are capable of walking.

As of April 2019 the global human population figure stands at approximately 7.7 billion people.

Of those 7.7 billion, it is estimated by the World Health Organisation that the population of those classed as 'disabled' stands somewhere between 10 and 15% (approx 650 million) - the figure rising from the lower to the higher number since the 1970s due simply to longer life expectancy.

However, included in this figure are people who have the life-long chronic illness HIV/AIDS who are perfectly capable of walking so we can deduct 44 million from that figure ... and so on, until the figure of those who are born unable to walk in our species is so low that it registers below 2% of the current global population, Robert.

Let's pause to consider how many people in the world have a physical disability and require a wheelchair?
My stats are taken from here:



* In the 34 developed countries it is estimated that 1% or 10,000,000 people require a wheelchair

* In the 156 developing countries it is estimated that at least 2% or 121,800,000 people require a wheelchair

* Overall, of the 7,091,500,000 people in the world, approximately 131,800,000 or 1.85% require a wheelchair

Now, the site does not clarify whether or not all those people are incapable of walking at all but let's assume for the benefit of your argument that they cannot.

That means that 98% of the species are capable of doing what they have evolved to do: walk.

I am confident you will agree that 98% is certainly not "some of the healthier and younger" of our species, Robert.

You have promulgated lies or mistakes by way of associating fallacy with the phrase Darwinian theory.

The only fallacy round here is yours.

My suggestion that this thread be moved to the Science boards is so that those with a far greater scientific bent than I might invest time in reading your work and debunk your theory, idea by fallacious idea.

Edited to correct typos: it's really early and though I can spell, 'some' of my fingers are incapable of typing very accurately this morning, it seems.

Edited 4 time(s). Last edit at 20-Apr-19 06:31 by eyeofhorus33.

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The Triptych and the Pyramid 2151 Robert Jameson 14-Apr-19 12:37
Re: The Triptych and the Pyramid 415 michael seabrook 14-Apr-19 17:10
God Gamete Garbage! (n/t) 321 eyeofhorus33 15-Apr-19 14:31
Re: God Gamete Garbage! (n/t) 290 Robert Jameson 15-Apr-19 23:27
Should this be on Science or Inner Space? 326 eyeofhorus33 16-Apr-19 14:29
Some quiet reflection would be appreciated 305 Robert Jameson 18-Apr-19 04:09
My issue with your problem with Darwinian theory 273 eyeofhorus33 18-Apr-19 18:47
Re: My issue with your problem with Darwinian theory 278 Robert Jameson 18-Apr-19 23:42
Correction to your acknowledgement 267 eyeofhorus33 20-Apr-19 06:21
Re: Correction to your acknowledgement 284 Robert Jameson 20-Apr-19 08:08
More nonsense 252 eyeofhorus33 20-Apr-19 08:19
I have had enough of this 245 Robert Jameson 20-Apr-19 08:58
Research demonstrates adaptive evolution in peacocks 283 eyeofhorus33 20-Apr-19 08:40
Darwin Was Wrong. 300 cladking 20-Apr-19 14:20
Oh dear! 291 eyeofhorus33 20-Apr-19 19:19
Re: Oh dear! 250 cladking 21-Apr-19 13:54
Obvs not read the research yet ... 270 eyeofhorus33 21-Apr-19 19:29
Re: Obvs not read the research yet ... 269 Warwick 22-Apr-19 17:09
Re: Obvs not read the research yet ... 224 cladking 22-Apr-19 17:37
give me a break 245 Warwick 22-Apr-19 17:41
Re: give me a break 269 cladking 23-Apr-19 00:34
Re: give me a break 238 Warwick 23-Apr-19 19:45
Re: Darwin Was Wrong. 278 Robert Jameson 20-Apr-19 23:54
Re: The Triptych and the Pyramid 319 Robert Jameson 16-Apr-19 03:38
Re: The Triptych and the Pyramid 360 michael seabrook 20-Apr-19 17:44
Re: The Triptych and the Pyramid 298 cladking 21-Apr-19 14:23
Re: The Triptych and the Pyramid 238 Robert Jameson 22-Apr-19 02:07
The Sheila Na Gig 253 Robert Jameson 22-Apr-19 06:46
Dual Sexed Deities 253 Robert Jameson 22-Apr-19 09:54
Re: Dual Sexed Deities 268 cladking 22-Apr-19 13:53
Re: Dual Sexed Deities 224 Robert Jameson 23-Apr-19 02:39
Re: Dual Sexed Deities 221 cladking 24-Apr-19 00:58
Re: Dual Sexed Deities 251 Robert Jameson 24-Apr-19 03:57
Re: Dual Sexed Deities 224 cladking 24-Apr-19 14:11
Re: Dual Sexed Deities 238 Robert Jameson 25-Apr-19 07:55
I did not answer part of your question 250 Robert Jameson 15-Jun-19 09:57
Purpose/ Triptych 273 Corpuscles 24-Apr-19 21:21
Re: Purpose/ Triptych 247 cladking 24-Apr-19 22:26
Re: Purpose/ Triptych 261 Audrey 25-Apr-19 01:39
Re: Purpose/ Triptych 223 cladking 25-Apr-19 14:47
Re: Purpose/ Triptych 235 Corpuscles 25-Apr-19 22:24
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Re: Purpose/ Triptych 245 Corpuscles 26-Apr-19 21:00
Re: Purpose/ Triptych 228 Robert Jameson 25-Apr-19 07:59
Re: Purpose/ Triptych 252 Warwick 25-Apr-19 17:48
Re: Purpose/ Triptych 228 Corpuscles 25-Apr-19 21:58
Re: Dual Sexed Deities 274 Audrey 25-Apr-19 01:20
Re: Dual Sexed Deities 266 Robert Jameson 25-Apr-19 08:21
Re: Dual Sexed Deities 218 Warwick 25-Apr-19 17:46
Re: Dual Sexed Deities 230 Robert Jameson 25-Apr-19 23:58
Re: Dual Sexed Deities 277 Audrey 27-Apr-19 20:20
Re: Dual Sexed Deities 224 Robert Jameson 27-Apr-19 22:37
Re: Dual Sexed Deities 229 eyeofhorus33 28-Apr-19 16:01
Re: Dual Sexed Deities 227 Robert Jameson 28-Apr-19 23:56
Re: Dual Sexed Deities 252 Audrey 29-Apr-19 00:37
Re: Dual Sexed Deities 245 Robert Jameson 29-Apr-19 01:14
Re: Dual Sexed Deities 211 Audrey 28-Apr-19 23:26
Re: The Triptych and the Pyramid 257 Warwick 22-Apr-19 17:14
Re: The Triptych and the Pyramid 281 Robert Jameson 23-Apr-19 02:42
Re: The Triptych and the Pyramid 222 Warwick 23-Apr-19 19:43
Re: The Triptych and the Pyramid 242 Robert Jameson 23-Apr-19 23:14
Re: The Triptych and the Pyramid 292 Warwick 24-Apr-19 16:42
The Old and the New 253 Robert Jameson 23-Apr-19 10:16
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Re: The Triptych and the Pyramid 262 AliT 24-Apr-19 19:35
Re: The Triptych and the Pyramid 274 Warwick 24-Apr-19 19:56
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