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I asked you: 'What might have prompted a people to cremate the dead body of their king atop the pyramid?'

You responded by writing:

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It was ritual. No more, no less.

Specifically it was the part of the rituals by which the king ascended to heaven to become a star and a memory and acquired its name. It's how the pyramid became the king himself (Khufu's Horizon).

The Pyramid Texts is quite clear on all of this.

So, let's unpick your understanding and interpretation:

You accept that cremation is a ritual. Good, I agree also that cremation is a ritual.

Your choice of word to define the function of the cremation is fascinating to me, for the precise meaning of this word is as follows: "a religious or solemn ceremony consisting of a series of actions performed according to a prescribed order."

But let's not get hung up on the idea of religious belief because, as we all know from your endless diatribes, there is no word for belief, irrespective of your own acknowledgement here of the physical manifestation of belief in this solemn cultural practice and ceremony.

Let us not get hung up on this trifling either though, for your made another comment which is also worthy of reflection:

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the king ascended to heaven to become a star

Now you are indisputably entangled in an articulation of spiritual belief because this is metaphor, poetry, a fantastical way to express the ascension of the life force, energy, matter or soul of the deceased king who is physically burning and turning to smoke. I say indisputable because smoke is not solid matter, it is not static and it does not shine. These highly intelligent builders knew this from their scientific observations of everyday fires: smoke dissipates in the air, it is gaseous in nature and it does not shine at night as a star does. The pyramid builders sat around fires often enough every night, keeping warm, to observe these scientific 'truths'.

So, the AE culture was steeped in the very solemn beliefs which you constantly claim are not a part of their language. The king 'ascended' into 'heaven' and became a 'star'. Listen to yourself!

Of course it was part of their language: it was enacted physically, expressed metaphorically and as your final comment on the matter I asked of your opinion, even you state:

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The Pyramid Texts is quite clear on all this.

I agree. See above.

Thank you.



Edited 2 time(s). Last edit at 04-Apr-19 19:53 by eyeofhorus33.

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Egyptology debate 1330 ptutaki@gmail.com 01-Apr-19 20:14
Re: Egyptology debate 383 cladking 01-Apr-19 22:02
Re: Egyptology debate 371 Martin Stower 01-Apr-19 22:30
Re: Egyptology debate 285 Brian Patterson 01-Apr-19 23:30
Re: Egyptology debate 292 cladking 02-Apr-19 00:12
Re: Egyptology debate 271 Open mind 02-Apr-19 01:50
Re: Egyptology debate 240 cladking 02-Apr-19 02:25
Re: Egyptology debate 258 Open mind 02-Apr-19 03:30
Re: Egyptology debate 292 cladking 02-Apr-19 03:43
Don't you ever 243 eyeofhorus33 02-Apr-19 17:04
Re: Don't you ever 206 cladking 02-Apr-19 19:39
Re: Don't you ever 295 Martin Stower 02-Apr-19 20:23
Re: Don't you ever 220 Corpuscles 02-Apr-19 20:38
Re: Don't you ever 202 eyeofhorus33 03-Apr-19 17:27
Re: Don't you ever 189 cladking 03-Apr-19 17:46
Re: Don't you ever 212 cladking 02-Apr-19 19:45
Re: Don't you ever 202 Thanos5150 02-Apr-19 23:31
Re: Don't you ever 174 Corpuscles 03-Apr-19 01:04
Re: Don't you ever 194 cladking 03-Apr-19 01:46
Re: Don't you ever 189 Warwick 04-Apr-19 15:56
Re: Don't you ever 162 cladking 04-Apr-19 16:58
Re: Don't you ever 163 Warwick 04-Apr-19 17:07
Re: Don't you ever 186 cladking 04-Apr-19 17:29
Re: Don't you ever 180 Warwick 04-Apr-19 17:45
Re: Don't you ever 201 Merrell 07-Apr-19 08:45
Re: Don't you ever 197 cladking 07-Apr-19 12:59
Re: Don't you ever 167 Martin Stower 07-Apr-19 16:37
Re: Don't you ever 179 cladking 03-Apr-19 01:25
Re: Egyptology debate 197 Corpuscles 02-Apr-19 21:06
Egyptology Owns the Low Road. 203 cladking 02-Apr-19 21:20
Re: Egyptology debate 259 Martin Stower 02-Apr-19 22:43
Re: Egyptology debate 230 Open mind 03-Apr-19 02:59
Re: Egyptology debate 232 Martin Stower 03-Apr-19 23:27
Re: Egyptology debate 218 Open mind 03-Apr-19 02:40
Re: Egyptology debate 191 Corpuscles 03-Apr-19 21:09
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Re: Egyptology debate 242 cladking 04-Apr-19 00:23
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Re: Egyptology debate..Magic and Demonology in Ancient Egypt 188 cladking 04-Apr-19 03:06
Two quick questions: 206 eyeofhorus33 04-Apr-19 07:41
Re: Two quick questions: 181 cladking 04-Apr-19 13:36
So, there was spiritual belief 220 eyeofhorus33 04-Apr-19 19:44
Re: So, there was spiritual belief 203 Corpuscles 04-Apr-19 20:01
Re: So, there was spiritual belief 207 eyeofhorus33 04-Apr-19 20:24
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Some Might Pay A Shilling 192 Barbelo 06-Apr-19 06:17
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The Telephone?? 192 Warwick 05-Apr-19 07:21
Re: So, there was spiritual belief 185 Corpuscles 04-Apr-19 21:57
Re: So, there was spiritual belief 178 cladking 04-Apr-19 21:00
Re: So, there was spiritual belief 164 cladking 04-Apr-19 20:54
You are completely mad! 204 eyeofhorus33 04-Apr-19 21:09
Re: You are completely mad! 225 cladking 05-Apr-19 02:11
Cladking provides more evidence of spiritual belief! 171 eyeofhorus33 05-Apr-19 06:18
Re: Cladking provides more evidence of spiritual belief! 220 cladking 05-Apr-19 13:48
Re: Cladking provides more evidence of spiritual belief! 166 Warwick 05-Apr-19 15:59
Re: Cladking provides more evidence of spiritual belief! 158 cladking 05-Apr-19 16:29
Re: Cladking provides more evidence of spiritual belief! 151 Warwick 05-Apr-19 17:02
Re: Cladking provides more evidence of spiritual belief! 166 cladking 05-Apr-19 17:21
Re: Egyptology debate..Magic and Demonology in Ancient Egypt 268 jamesglory 04-Apr-19 08:16
Re: Egyptology debate..Magic and Demonology in Ancient Egypt 162 cladking 04-Apr-19 13:29
Re: Egyptology debate..Magic and Demonology in Ancient Egypt 179 Warwick 04-Apr-19 15:34
Re: Egyptology debate 219 Open mind 05-Apr-19 01:40
Re: Egyptology debate 184 cladking 05-Apr-19 02:22
Re: Egyptology debate 187 Warwick 05-Apr-19 07:33
Re: Egyptology debate 195 Open mind 06-Apr-19 00:48
Re: Egyptology debate 190 Corpuscles 06-Apr-19 03:43
Re: Egyptology debate 188 Open mind 06-Apr-19 22:27
Re: Egyptology debate 181 Corpuscles 07-Apr-19 07:49
Re: Egyptology debate 170 Open mind 07-Apr-19 17:29
Re: Egyptology debate 173 Open mind 07-Apr-19 17:34
Re: Egyptology debate 186 Corpuscles 08-Apr-19 06:49
Re: Egyptology debate 193 eyeofhorus33 06-Apr-19 22:14
Re: Egyptology debate 187 Thanos5150 07-Apr-19 16:37
Re: Egyptology debate 189 eyeofhorus33 08-Apr-19 06:54
Re: Egyptology debate 176 Thanos5150 08-Apr-19 16:08
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Re: Having now caught up on the thread entire... 155 cladking 04-Apr-19 17:06
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Re: Having now caught up on the thread entire... 163 cladking 04-Apr-19 17:39
IOW's 172 Warwick 04-Apr-19 17:42
Re: IOW's 162 cladking 04-Apr-19 18:54
Re: IOW's 206 Martin Stower 04-Apr-19 19:26
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Re: April Fools! 229 cladking 08-Apr-19 13:34
Reality? 160 Warwick 08-Apr-19 17:50
Here's Another Shilling 189 Barbelo 08-Apr-19 21:08
Talking out of both sides of your mouth again! 169 eyeofhorus33 09-Apr-19 20:41
Re: Talking out of both sides of your mouth again! 186 cladking 09-Apr-19 21:21
Re: Talking out of both sides of your mouth again! 157 cladking 09-Apr-19 21:38
In summation... 158 Warwick 10-Apr-19 17:11
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Re: April Fools! 168 cladking 09-Apr-19 21:56
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